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@Serg: If and when he comes with some links to evidence, I have this really bad feeling that my latest on-topic questions on 16.04 are going to be in there... :D

kos

Side note, you need a package for Tk:

% python script.py
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "script.py", line 3, in <module>
    from Tkinter import *
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/lib-tk/Tkinter.py", line 42, in <module>
    raise ImportError, str(msg) + ', please install the python-tk package'
ImportError: No module named _tkinter, please install the python-tk package

blade19899

> 5E0E70C80B21F061765EE72038EC19360ED089E10D6456DE0E002E24669E2C1021248DAB7F8C

Yep ^

Serg

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A: How to delete everything after a certain pattern or a string in a file?

Very quick, simple and dirty python way: #!/usr/bin/env python import sys with open( sys.argv[1] ) as file: for line in file: print line.split("/")[0] Sample run skolodya@ubuntu:$ chmod +x removeStrings.py skolodya@ubuntu:$ ./removeStrings.py...

blade19899

Get it while its hot!

Serg

8:07 PM

2

A: Print a specific part in an output

Since I am currently learning python here is a version using exactly that. #!/usr/bin/env python import re reg = re.compile('CONFIG_ARCH_DEFCONFIG') with open("/boot/config-3.19.0-32-generic") as file : for line in file: if reg.match(line): print line.split('"')[1] Sampl...

@blade19899 what is that ?

@Serg My tox ID

It worked!

Got it

If you have tox just add me, I'll delete it later on

kos

Serg

8:08 PM

let me boot my VM and add you . . .

kos

@Serg Thanks, looking at it

user139252

Nobody plays with my Python anymore :(

Zacharee1

@TheBrownOne ō_ô

Wait.

user139252

I just re-read that, and I'm ashamed.

Serg

@TheBrownOne My Anaconda don't want none unless you got buns hon . . .or something like that

Zacharee1

8:09 PM

lol

@Serg yep

kos

@TheBrownOne I may, I need to learn some basics

Zacharee1

@kos ...

kos

@Zacharee1 ?

Zacharee1

@TheBrownOne are you up for a quick game of test spleef on my server?

Serg

@kos look through some of the @JacobVlijm code. He has some really good examples . . . that's what I've been doing last couple of days . . .

Zacharee1

8:10 PM

@kos there is an innuendo in that sentence :p

blade19899

@TheBrownOne Nobody plays with any of my projects on GitHub, so chear up buddy :)

kos

@Zacharee1 The innuendo is in the mind of the listener ;)

Zacharee1

@kos ◔_◔

> This is an Ubuntu site. What answer do you expect? – muru 12 mins ago @muru

kos

@Zacharee1 Ok, maybe you have a point.

Serg

@blade19899 That's me : github.com/SergKolo

kos

8:13 PM

@Zacharee1 Lol. Spot-on

Zacharee1

@Serg so your name is Sergiy Kolo?

blade19899

@Serg Following....

Watch you back |-_)

Serg

@Zacharee1 full name is Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy . . . . But who want's to spell my whole name ?

blade19899

lol

Zacharee1

@Serg :p

blade19899

8:14 PM

@Serg HOLY. NOBODY!

Zacharee1

@blade19899 lol

Serg

Hehe . . .any other question on why i shorten my name ?

blade19899

Some random panda just added me on qTox. So random.

kos

@Serg Is the Italian pronunciation accurate? translate.google.it/?ie=UTF-8&hl=it&client=tw-ob#uk/it/…

Serg

@kos yup, exactly how it should be pronounced . . . That feels moment, when google bot pronounces my name better than actual people, shm

kos

8:18 PM

:D Now I can spell your full name

user139252

@Zacharee1 How about 0ad?

Zacharee1

@TheBrownOne sure. I just want to test something on my server quickly

@kos I find it strange that every language is capitalized except for Ukranian

Serg

Yeeey. I think I should try learning Italian. I bet pronounciation would be easy for me

user139252

@Serg Can I just call you "Cool Slavic Dude"?

user139252

Much easier than trying to pronounce that mess.

Zacharee1

8:22 PM

:p

Serg

@TheBrownOne hehe, sure :) Although I'm not that cool

kos

@Zacharee1 What do you mean is not capitalized? Isn't it?

Zacharee1

@kos It says "ucranio"

Serg

he means in the language selection menu ucraino is not in caps

Zacharee1

^

Serg

8:24 PM

danese too

Oooo, found chinese python repo on git

kos

@Serg Actually phonetically Slavic languages are closer to Italian than e.g. English, I think I could pronounce Ukrainian words better than English words (and IME it's the same for Russians / Ukrainians). The few Russians I've known barely had an accent.

Fabby

Hi all...

Zacharee1

@Fabby ...lla iH

Fabby

This guy is getting on my nerves...

Zacharee1

Me?

Fabby

8:28 PM

Does anyone have a delete vote left?

kos

@Zacharee1 @Serg Right. Don't know what's wrong with Google there.

Zacharee1

@Fabby just saw it delete

Serg

@Fabby deleted

Zacharee1

@kos ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Fabby

@Zacharee1 :D Yeah you too! ;-) (NOT!)

Zacharee1

8:28 PM

◔_◔

@Fabby how about the Michael guy?

Fabby

@Serg Thanks!

Serg

@kos i took spanish class, and since i know spanish and italian are close, i can 99% be sure that it would be pretty easy for me to learn . . .if only i could stop being a lazy a$$

Fabby

@Zacharee1 Who? the other archangel?

Zacharee1

@Fabby there's a user who somehow has 450+ rep whose answers are all "you could try this" [stuff here] It might work this way"

Fabby

@TheBrownOne: Hi Heather! You look like a turd today! How come?

>:-) :D

user139252

8:30 PM

:(

Zacharee1

And most of the time the suggestions aren't even good

@Fabby yikes

Fabby

(Sorry, but that was just a wide open door!)

user139252

It was.

user139252

This is what happens when you decide "I'm going to change my profile!" at 2AM.

Fabby

@TheBrownOne ;-) How are you?

Zacharee1

8:30 PM

@TheBrownOne @Fabby

kos

@Serg Italian is quite useless though. It's the 23rd most spoken language, whilst Spanish is the 2nd one. :D

Fabby

@TheBrownOne After a few drinks??? >:-)

Zacharee1

look at where it points to

@kos Well if you know it, you can understand Spanish

Fabby

@kos I thought Chinese was nowadays...

Serg

@kos Eh, I learn languages for fun, not for the positional number on some table . . .

user139252

8:31 PM

I'm alright. Making coffee for the office over lunch hour.

Zacharee1

@Fabby 1st

Fabby

@kos Italian is very useful if you like opera!

Zacharee1

@Serg that's why I want to learn German

@Fabby ◔_◔

Serg

@Fabby with large population , Chinese is number one . . . if you discount the foreigners who speak it, of course

Seth

@TheBrownOne I don't think anyone recognizes you :P

Is there a reason you decided to go all brown?

Zacharee1

8:32 PM

@Seth I think we all just figured

Fabby

@Seth I recognized her!

Seth

@Zacharee1 REPLIES PLZZZZZZ

2

Fabby

She is called "Brown"!!!

Zacharee1

@Seth ONE POST

ONE ONE ONE

Seth

@Fabby Good for you :p

Serg

8:33 PM

@TheBrownOne I suspected that, but didn't bother to check your UID on the site . . .

kos

@Fabby Sounds like a pretty narrow application. :D

Fabby

It's totally obvious once you connect the dots!

Zacharee1

@Fabby you know, if you upvote me 21 times, I can cast those close votes ;p

Fabby

@kos And if you want to read "Il Prncipe"

(original version, so that you know that the end DOES NOT justify all means!)

Hah!

user139252

@Seth @Serg I was bored, tired, and a little inebriated.

Seth

8:35 PM

lol

user139252

I thought it was creative considering I could only remember @JacobVlijm as "The Orange Guy".

Zacharee1

:p

user139252

@Fabby I think it's more like a milk chocolate, less like a turd.

Serg

@TheBrownOne learned a new word, inebriate :D

Zacharee1

lol

kos

8:36 PM

@Fabby I had to Google that, cause I'm a bit ignorant. Yeah I guess so, though the original is in Latin, isn't it?

user139252

Yes, it is Latin-based.

Zacharee1

◔ ͜ ◔

user139252

Stemming from ebrius.

Fabby

@TheBrownOne I'm sorry, but I'll have to agree to disagree: in real life it might, but here in the chat with the pink and grey and off-white, it actually looks ...

Zacharee1

◔   ͜   ◔◔   ͜   ◔◔   ͜   ◔◔   ͜   ◔◔   ͜   ◔

Fabby

8:37 PM

Let's just way: a bit worse...

kos

@TheBrownOne Latin-based?

Zacharee1

@kos inebriated :p

Fabby

take another shade of brown...

user139252

@Kos Yes, Latin-based word. ebrius -> inebriare -> inebriatus -> inebriated (English).

kos

@Zacharee1 You lost me guys, I don't know what you're talking about.

Fabby

8:38 PM

@kos Mmmmh... Why did I go through the trouble of reading it in Italian then? (facepalm!)

Zacharee1

@kos I think @TheBrownOne thought you were talking about inebriated when you were talking about Il Principe

Fabby

@TheBrownOne We were talking about Machiavelli's "Il Principe"

kos

@Zacharee1 Ok that explains it! @TheBrownOne

user139252

I'm confused.

Zacharee1

lol

kos

8:40 PM

@Fabby Lol. :D

Fabby

The brown and the orange one! @TheBrownOne @JacobVlijm

Next to each other!

Zacharee1

wat

ah

ahahahahahahahahahahahahah

Seth

for all of you who don't comment your code:

THIS IS WHAT COMMENTS ARE FOR >_< https://twitter.com/CommitStrip/status/692069085153222656

Tweeted by thatcoderiguana on January 26, 2016 at 8:38 PM

3

brb as I go double check my code :p

Zacharee1

:p

Fabby

@Seth I write more comments then code!

>:-) ;-)

user139252

8:42 PM

My comments are code.

4

Serg

Updated profile. Time to go to the Python class :p

Fabby

If anyone has any comment codes left, go here and upvote my last comment!

@TheBrownOne :D :D :D Self-modifying code! Starred!

kos

@TheBrownOne Lol

Seth

hey @Serg you're really close to a gold command-line badge :D

user139252

I just made the lamest joke to my students.

user139252

8:45 PM

"I don't know math, but I use magic to solve math problems. I'm a mathe-magician."

kos

^^ Striving for that one

Zacharee1

let's try this handwriting recognition out

@TheBrownOne 😑

Fabby

@TheBrownOne Good one!

Zacharee1

no no no no no no

kos

@TheBrownOne Tumbleweed...

Zacharee1

8:47 PM

google's handwriting recognition works really well

kos

And just a pinch of embarassment :P

user139252

Just a small, Everest-sized pinch.

Zacharee1

lol

Fabby

@TheBrownOne My standard answer is: I don't know Maths: I use inefficient algorithms and a fast computer to brute force my Maths problems!

Zacharee1

😖☕☺☕☺☕☺☕☺☕☺☕☺☕☺☕☺☕

user139252

8:51 PM

@Zacharee1 No faces for you.

Zacharee1

⭐

kos

Ok, so from Tkinter import *: what is Tkinter and what is * (I mean at the language level)?

* = classes I guess?

Seth

Tkinter is the module and * imports all the classes/functions in the module directly.

For e.g. if you just did import Tkinter then everything inside that module would have to be referenced Tkinter.someClass but if you use from Tkinter import * then someClass can be referenced directly.

AFAIK that is the only major difference.

Jacob Vlijm

@kos are you sure you want to use tkinter? Really ugly unless you spend a lot of time fixing colors to kind of match gtk

user136984

Well, this has become much more popular than I thought it would... :)

user136984

8:55 PM

@JacobVlijm: Do you use Tox by the way? :)

Jacob Vlijm

@ParanoidPanda I have it, but rarely use it :)

user136984

@JacobVlijm: I guess you don't want to join our ToxID sharing party then (as @Serg put it)? :D

Fabby

@JacobVlijm I can confirm that! :D

kos

@Seth Ok that's useful. So doing import * from a module also sets the namespace. Thanks!

Jacob Vlijm

@ParanoidPanda I would, but I am on a tablet :)

kos

8:58 PM

@JacobVlijm No I'm not, I just read that it was built-in into Python, but actually I had to download a separate package.

Jacob Vlijm

@kos I made qle quicklist editor once in tkinter, switched to python3/gtk now. Much more beautifull. You will want to switch sooner or later, might as well spare you the time to get into it twice...

Fabby

@JacobVlijm That's a lame excuse: tox has Windows and Android clients too! (unless you've got the pre-release BQ tablet!)

Seth

what are you working on btw @kos?

Fabby

>:-)

Seth

because I think Jacob is right. If it's a big project you will eventually want to switch to something like Gtk or Qt. If it's a small one time thing you might still want to switch :)

Jacob Vlijm

9:03 PM

@Fabby REALLY?? But this is my wife's tablet... :)

kos

@JacobVlijm Alright, so that would be which module? Do I have to install another package?

Mitch

Fabby

@Mitch That's just like the 710 cap!!! (for those wondering: it's inside a car under the hood)

kos

@Seth No, as of now I'm just playing with it a bit, I want to learn it because I've had ideas for small neat things at times I'd have liked to implement, and couldn't do because I don't know any framework. But Python looked like a better idea than learning say GTK with C.

Mitch

@Fabby lol

user139252

9:09 PM

I'm making gnuchess play against itself.

Fabby

@TheBrownOne It is winning???

>:-)

Jacob Vlijm

@kos nothing to install, this bazaar.launchpad.net/~vlijm/lswitcher/lswitcher/view/head:/code/… wasmy first in gtk takeabreak (also on launchpad) the second

user139252

@Fabby Actually, no.

user139252

Nothing is happening.

Fabby

:D :D :D

kos

9:12 PM

@JacobVlijm Nice, thanks. So just from gi.repository import Gtk avails. It will take quite a bit of time to know that at a decent level. Never used GUIs and I barely understand anything in that code :P

Seth

hah! I totally forgot gtk didn't require any package installs.

I don't think Qt does either, but I don't remember.

Jacob Vlijm

@kos I think you'll get used to it quickly, and SO is a great source!!

Seth

@kos python-gtk-3-tutorial.readthedocs.org/en/latest

user136984

AAAA! My coffee machine just exploded with a blue light coming out of it and smoke!!!

Jacob Vlijm

@Seth I prefered gtk, since it "feels" a lot like tkinter, which I was used to.

user139252

9:16 PM

@ParanoidPanda It was the illuminati.

user136984

@TheBrownOne: No, I think water got into the electrics...

user136984

Either that or we had some massive power surge which only did something to it...

Jacob Vlijm

@ParanoidPanda don't get paranoid now :)

user136984

@JacobVlijm: Well how often does your coffee machine explode with a blue light?

kos

That looks very well done! Thanks @Seth

user136984

9:18 PM

How often does anyone's do that...?

user136984

I think it's time for a new coffee machine! :D

Fabby

@ParanoidPanda HTCPCP error!!!!

Did everyone suddenly run off reading a 1998 April 1st joke???

Quiet here... >:-)

user136984

@Fabby: When I started reading it I believed it, then became less sure... :D

user136984

But anyway, I think I may have just broken my coffee machine...

Fabby

@ParanoidPanda The 3rd line or so is 1 APRIL 1998

Jacob Vlijm

9:28 PM

@Fabby I think everyone is under the table, scared for the exploded coffeemachine...

Fabby

@JacobVlijm :D :D :D

A.B.

\o/

user136984

Seriously though, it did explode! And with such a bang too! I nearly jumped out of my skin!

Zacharee1

lol

@A.B. /o\

Jacob Vlijm

@ParanoidPanda strong coffee...

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user136984

@JacobVlijm: :D

Seth

lol I saw this and misread the name as "Serg":

please tell, how exactly did you create the Fedora's USB stick (I am not a fan of other mentioned distros, but may give some advice on Fedora) — Serge 1 min ago

couldn't understand how he could say he wasn't familiar with ubuntu lol xD

Zacharee1

@Seth lol

Fabby

@Serg -----------------------^

Jacob Vlijm

I must confess, on the new post above, I read How do i create create a bride for virtual machines

Zacharee1

9:35 PM

@Fabby Here's the Michael guy. Every answer is like this: askubuntu.com/a/709460/274320

Just look at the answer score

Fabby

I'm going to go through his answers and post:

As a famous philosopher once said “Do, or do not! There is no try!” or in Ask Ubuntu style: if you're sure, then it's an answer, if you're not, then it's a comment. Words like "try" "might", "should" are a sign, that a message belongs in the comments, and "do", "will", "shall" in answers.

everywhere.

Zacharee1

Do it!

Jacob Vlijm

@Zacharee1 I might get a bit discouraged with such a score...

Zacharee1

@Seth (since I did tell you about this) @Fabby He does actually have some helpful and even accepted answers, but he does need to be told that his answer structure is pretty bad

@JacobVlijm ?

Fabby

@Zacharee1 You could helpme out: already downvoted 2 of his answers and voted to delete 1

now stopping as otherwise it's serial downvoting...

Zacharee1

9:39 PM

@Fabby I shall. For now I'm going with the low voted ones

Fabby

Don't downvote more then three!

I'm going to keep an eye on this one...

Zacharee1

Look how many things he's answered!

He's trying hard, but failing because of his answer structure.

user136984

I predicted that this would happen (that the guy would give one of my answers as evidence)! :D

user136984

sure here is a new question that is considered off-topic askubuntu.com/questions/725975/… — DnrDevil 2 hours ago

Fabby

@Zacharee1 He's in my RSS feed now as "Michael the Tryer"...

Zacharee1

9:42 PM

lol

Seth

@ParanoidPanda no need to post unconstructive comments about it though ;)

kos

@Zacharee1 The problem is some of them are a bit out of this world. See this one: askubuntu.com/a/725859/380067. Problem with nVidia drivers. Suggested solution: install the AMD drivers before updating, only then updating, then upgrading. ???

user136984

@Seth: Well, it's just because I predicted that it would happen, but I still wasn't absolutely sure, and then I saw my question there! :D

user136984

@Seth: Have you deleted the comment or shall I?

Seth

it's gone

Zacharee1

9:45 PM

@kos I know

Jacob Vlijm

Good night all, will go horizontally :)

Zacharee1

How do you embed comments with the links and such?

(in chat)

I think I should alert you that the structure you use for answers is not at all what an answer should look like. You make it seem like you aren't sure that what you suggest is going to work, and that's really bad to put as an answer. If you aren't sure that something will work, then put it as a comment. If you really think that it is the solution, then be affirmative. No one's going to want to listen to the guy saying "I think this might work, but I'm not really sure." They want to follow the person who seems like they know what they're doing. Be more assertive when you answer questions — Zacharee1 1 min ago

ah

easier than I thought :p

user136984

@JacobVlijm: Goodnight! :)

Seth

@JacobVlijm 'night!

Fabby

@JacobVlijm Sex or sleep???

Zacharee1

9:47 PM

@Fabby there it is..

Fabby

;-)

@Zacharee1 Where is what???

Zacharee1

@Fabby the sarcastic comment that borders on inappropriate

Fabby

Borders on the inappropriate...

Zacharee1

sure

Ugh

Fabby

and it's not sarcastic, nor inappropriate: It's just a question!

Zacharee1

9:48 PM

I hate it when people accept my answer, but don't upvote it, or vise versa

Fabby

;-)

user136984

@Fabby: I bet if someone flagged that up it would get deleted... :P

Zacharee1

BORDERS (HENCE)

Let's see...

jk

Fabby

@Zacharee1 Well, I never accept your answers, but do upvote them!

Zacharee1

lol, well thanks

aww: askubuntu.com/questions/620312/…

aww: askubuntu.com/questions/610996/problem-with-display-with-chrome/…

(Not asking for votes BTW -- CCs fine)

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