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Thomas W.

04:01

@Seth lol @ broadcom assumption xD

@Seth fortunately that's NOT the issue xD

Seth

no kidding lol. I just guessed 'cause it was Dell.

@RPiAwesomeness yeah

RPi Awesomeness

dangit. I keep finishing up my new user post reviews right after they reset.

Thomas W.

@Seth Dell's Inspiron 15R Special Edition had an Intel card

and was all hardware-certified for 12.04

Seth

@RPiAwesomeness haha. That's so annoying.

Thomas W.

which was a huge bargaining point for this laptop specifically being purchased :P

@Seth also your suggestion does not work :/

Seth

04:03

:-/

RPi Awesomeness

I KNOW! Wish I had the 2K rep for some more of the review queues...

Seth

@ThomasW. Do you know how turning the wifi off works?

Thomas W.

@Seth On this machine? No.

I'm still breaking it in :)

Seth

hmm

Thomas W.

@Seth I'm still surprised that this happens on this system, none of the other systems I've used with similar cards has ever had this issue

@Seth and even from on to off, it does something that soft-blocks the wifi

and i have to rfkill unblock 0 (which is the consistently-the-same interface number) to unblock the wifi

(hardblock shows "yes" when disabled by switch)

RPi Awesomeness

04:07

hmm...reading over this: askubuntu.com/questions/6263/…...

Might have to look into putting this on an iPad 1...

anyone have any idea if it would work?

or even be usable?

or legal

Seth

I don't know on all points.

@ThomasW. What interface is your wireless on?

Thomas W.

@Seth "interface" as in the code that i put into ifconfig when referring to the interface?

wlan0

Seth

@ThomasW. yes

Thomas W.

@Seth wlan0

oh god

Lucio

?

Thomas W.

04:20

@Seth @Lucio guess who's here >.>

RPi Awesomeness

@ThomasW.'s is a-burnin

Oh god is right...

Seth

@ThomasW. in the room?

Lucio

@ThomasW. :D

Thomas W.

@Seth Yes.

RPi Awesomeness

EEP!

/me is a plant! I'm gonna freaking die!

Seth

04:21

@ThomasW. just ignore it.

RPi Awesomeness

The un-mentionable OS has arrived

Seth

@ThomasW. Any idea where I could get the iwlwifi kernel module's source code?

Thomas W.

@Seth no idea

Seth

hmmm

Thomas W.

@Seth wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/iwlwifi might have links

make sure to grab for the .... um...

@Seth how do I grab the kernel version

Seth

04:23

uname -a

Journeyman Geek

shouldn't intel drivers be in the kernel tree?

Thomas W.

@Seth Linux new-gallifrey 3.8.0-35-generic #50~precise1-Ubuntu SMP Wed Dec 4 17:25:51 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

Journeyman Geek

@ThomasW.: just curious - why do you need it?

Thomas W.

so I guess 3.8.0 kernels

Seth

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Q: When turning on/off wifi, wifi is "soft blocked", any way to automatically run `rfkill unblock`?

So, on this Dell Inspiron 7520, which is hardware-certified for 12.04, when I use the function keys to turn off/on the wifi, the wifi will "turn on" but be soft blocked. Running rfkill unblock [interfacenumber] does correctly unblock the device. Is there a way for the system to automatically ru...

Thomas W.

04:24

@JourneymanGeek ask @Seth, he needs the code for iwlwifi apparently

Seth

/me is researching.

Journeyman Geek

ahh right

Thomas W.

@JourneymanGeek having said this I just want to automate the rfkill unblock process when I turn on the wifi with the hardware buttons

if possible.

Seth

I know how to do that, but the hard part is making the key block and unblock alternately

RPi Awesomeness

0

Q: Is the freezing bug fixed in 13.10?

I used to have 12.04 which freezes at login. All I can do is hold down the power button. Is that pached in 13.10?

13.10

bit unclear...

No clue which bug (if any official bug) he is talking about...etc.

Seth

04:26

well I gotta go for now.

RPi Awesomeness

Yo, anyone who can: meta.askubuntu.com/questions/8030/…

is missing the links to doing it on Linux and Ubuntu...just ping commented @Braiam...

Lucio

@Seth me too

ciao

Seth

@ThomasW. Oh, got a CM to delete the answer. He wants our mods to handle the comments though, since it's calmed down.

Nathan Osman

Thomas W.

04:49

@Seth did they lock the post?

RPi Awesomeness

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Journeyman Geek

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RPi Awesomeness

AMEN!

REALLY wish we could get Marriage banned as a term and possibly baba ji...

Journeyman Geek

babaji and vashikaran would be good terms

RPi Awesomeness

And those

Like someone said a while ago, ever seen a question: "Marriage Planning Software for Ubuntu?" cricket noise

Oh gosh. He's on other sites too. has yet to spam Ask Different.

Aaand...I'm getting sounds through my earbuds like the rats from the Mo'Creatures MC mod...whaaat....?

Aaand....this was protected...why?

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I built Firefox 26 on Mint 16 because the Ubuntu 10.04 build utilities are too old to build it. It does need to run on 10.04, however, since that's the target OS I'm building for. It built and runs just fine on Mint 16. When moving the package over to 10.04 and attempting to run, I get errors be...

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Avinash Raj

08:01

is there anyone around

@Bruno r you there

Avinash Raj

11:32

@fossfreedom why my answer was deleted in askubuntu.com/questions/401330/…

fossfreedom

@AvinashRaj let me look...

because you answered a question about how to install wine - whereas the user was specifically asking about installing itunes - the dupe explains that its a waste of time and pointing the OP in that direction.

Avinash Raj

see that question he was trying to install itunes "iTunesSetup.exe" which was an exe file.so i help him to install wine first and then double click on that exe file.

will make him to install itunes.

fossfreedom

yes - he is installing itunes - and the dupe explains don't do it.

If you really have an answer that covers installing wine, configuring the various DLLs and stuff for the wine bottle and then covering itunes installation - that answer belongs on the dupe.

Avinash Raj

@fossfreedom thnx for your clarification.

fossfreedom

11:55

... spam killed in 6 seconds... :)

jokerdino

13:16

@Braiam Hm I see. Any idea how to work around it?

RPi Awesomeness

Hmmm...That Brask user has been posting duplicate responses as comments and as answers. I've seen several comments and answers by him that are exact duplicates of each-other...

This is one: askubuntu.com/questions/401862/…

And another: askubuntu.com/questions/401140/…

jokerdino

13:37

Big news everyone. CentOS joins hands with Red Hat.

RPi Awesomeness

Seriously?

Well

jrg

well, to put it into context, they didn't do that as much as they said "Standards bro!"

jokerdino

I don't think it is possible for RH to plant their employees and steer it for their benefit. :P

Journeyman Geek

@jokerdino: I was under the impression centos was rhel

with nearly no non branding mods

jrg

@JourneymanGeek yes and no

yes, you are correct from a technical view

jokerdino

13:47

@JourneymanGeek It really was. They rebranded RHEL but had no paid support.

jrg

no, it isn't. CentOS devs tend to not work for RH.

jokerdino

It was free.

jrg

(at least, not anymore)

jokerdino

@jrg The news is that, five of the devs started their day job at RH but not for RHEL.

jrg

arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/01/…

jokerdino

13:47

@jrg you mean not before

Journeyman Geek

iirc its still free

jrg

Nuance. but yes.

Yes, and it forever shall be.

Journeyman Geek

they arn't locking repos behind a paywall, are they?

jrg

No.

jokerdino

@JourneymanGeek no

jrg

13:48

hell has not frozen over.

Journeyman Geek

what this really means is that RH can keep pissing off oracle without screwing over centos ;p

jrg

Yup!

redhat.com/about/news/press-archive/2014/1/… | This press release is full of a unusually low amount of bs.

jokerdino

I think that really was the idea.

jrg

innovation is for fedora, enterprise is for RHEL, and centos is for everyone else who is ~~too cheap~~ actually has to stay inside a budget.

Journeyman Geek

lol

jrg

13:51

explain to me how my logic is flawed.

jokerdino

In every sense of the word cheap?

jrg

we priced RHEL. ouch.

Journeyman Geek

@jokerdino: pretty much ;p

Aditya

Guys, anyone know how to apply patches to upstream linux kernel? Need some hand-holding to troubleshoot a bug related to bluetooth...

RPi Awesomeness

ooo...bugs. No fun

Braiam

14:04

@Aditya do you have the patch?

Aditya

patch is available... git repo is updated... but need some hand-holding from someone who has done this before...

@Braiam yes

Let me give you a brief summary..

Braiam

I mean, you have a patch file?

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Aditya

@Braiam Yes.. it is available here: bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60824#c6

RPi Awesomeness

Wha....

Being hacked is never fun

Braiam

14:07

253

A: How to apply `git diff` patch without Git installed?

git diff > patchfile and patch -p1 < patchfile work but as many people noticed in comments and other answers patch does not understand adds, deletes and renames. There is no option but git apply patchfile if you need handle file adds, deletes and renames.

Alvar

it should be impossible to just use a 4 digit password..

Braiam

you don't need git..

@AskUbuntuMeta btw, 4 chars is not allowed by any of SE or openid...

Aditya

@Braiam I have the repo updated... but let me go through that SO question..

Braiam

I doubt he was hacked still posting stupid questions..

Aditya

I actually need some hand-holding... compiling the kernel takes way too-much time on my machine and I often find myself in a situation that after getting it compiled and installing the debs, my system refuses to boot... Moreover, it generates deb files which are more than 750MB...

@Braiam: Have you ever applied the patches before?

Braiam

14:11

let me put this way, you have this and the sources tree...

@Aditya of course, not to the kernel tho... (never in the need to)

if you do ls include/net/bluetooth/bluetooth.h and it returns ok, then you are in the right place

Aditya

yes.. by sources tree i mean I have an updated git repo of git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux-stable.git

Braiam

then the only thing is doing patch -p1 < patchfile and done

you want to apply to the git repo?

is the same...

Aditya

@Braiam won't i need to change branches and stuff like that..

Braiam

nope...

why?

Aditya

the patch was made about 3 months ago... and the repo is updated till today..

jrg

14:13

git is smart

git doesn't just keep track of files

when properly done, git will keep track of methods and individual code chunks, even as they migrate across the files.

Braiam

> What is preventing the patch to be merged? Without this, the Bluetooth dongle doesn't work.

the patch seems not being merged in the sources

Aditya

yes... the patch hasn't been merged as of yet

I don't know why... but i have this fear that the next 3-4 hours are going to be wasted

Braiam

just put yourself in the source tree, then do patch -p1 < patchfile and done...

Aditya

@Braiam ok.. then let me try it

$ patch -p1 < ~/Desktop/bluetooth.patch

patching file include/net/bluetooth/bluetooth.h
Hunk #1 succeeded at 273 (offset 8 lines).
patching file include/net/bluetooth/hci_core.h
Hunk #1 succeeded at 1030 (offset -54 lines).
patching file net/bluetooth/hci_core.c
Hunk #1 succeeded at 726 (offset 581 lines).
Hunk #2 succeeded at 1267 (offset 661 lines).
Hunk #3 succeeded at 3414 (offset 740 lines).
Hunk #4 succeeded at 3439 (offset 740 lines).
Hunk #5 succeeded at 3447 (offset 740 lines).
Hunk #6 succeeded at 4165 (offset 734 lines).

Braiam

@Aditya the patch should looks like this

yeah, that's fine...

Aditya

14:18

Is it done?

jrg

yup.

Braiam

yup

Aditya

wow

jrg

now do your make, make install and all that fun stuff.

Aditya

ok.. feeling excited

Braiam

14:19

@jrg make deb!

is the kernel D:

jrg

oh yes, checkinstall

use checkinstall

don't use make install, use checkinstall. just... otherwise problems happen.

Aditya

@Braiam but my deb files generated are about 750 MB... is that normal?

jrg

yup

Aditya

@jrg ??? any guide on the internet

Braiam

@Aditya yeah...

jrg

14:20

it isn't a optimized kernel.

help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall

Braiam

or @Aditya debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch08s06.html.en

jrg

the debian docs are probably better

Aditya

thank you guys... but then why are the kernel updates that we get from Ubuntu are only about 60 MB if 750 MB is normal when we compile ourselves?

jrg

because ubuntu splits things out into individual packages and kernel module packages

whereas that just lumped them all together

ubuntu doesn't install the entire git.kernel.org/linus codebase

Aditya

that went over my head.. :)

jrg

14:23

what you just did

is you made a .deb of the entire kernel

everything.

but the kernel is made up of many smaller parts

and ubuntu (and most linux distros) split the smaller parts out

because not everyone needs them

for example, my netbook didn't have bluetooth. it didn't install the bluetooth modules by default.

Braiam

@Aditya make sure that with the make xconfig you select all the modules you need ;)

jrg

or my netbook didn't have a backlight keyboard. kernel modules weren't loaded.

whereas you are install EVERYTHING.

Aditya

@Braiam Let me introduce myself... I am a complete newbie and this is the first bug in Ubuntu which I am trying to troubleshoot... I just don't know much about these stuff... :)

@jrg: I think I am understanding things...

But then.... the updates for kernel given by ubuntu - are they different and optimized for all the sections of users

jrg

Yes.

Braiam

@Aditya if you are unsure what options to tweak try this serverfault.com/a/51059/180142

Aditya

14:27

@jrg a rough guess of how many sections/groups of users?

jrg

@Aditya lots.

Aditya

@jrg I mean there are 1000s of combinations.... there must be some limit.... any idea about it or a range which you think should be right..

jrg

@Aditya Virtually infinite combinations

let me sketch something, and upload it

so it'll make sense

Aditya

@jrg hehe..

jrg

nope, i can't sketch worth a damn.

basically, the system says "Oh, you have bluetooth. that means you need to install kernel-bluetooth" (or whatever)

Aditya

14:31

@Braiam i have got a lot of links to read... would surely go through it as well... thanks :)

jrg

or it says "Oh, you haz broadcom. install alsdkjflkasdjfklj-broadcom"

but it doesn't install broadcom, intel, nvidia, realtek, ralink, and all the other ones by default.

BUT, what you just did was make a package that wasn't split up into a bajillion little pieces.

so that's why it's so big.

Aditya

but the kernel-updates come as 4-5 deb files consolidated... does ubuntu consolidate it on server-side and only includes the modules appropriate for my system - ie; for every user?

jrg

no.

only some portions of the "kernel" get updated

so there is mainline kernel - that's the core.

and then there are kernel extensions, which is what most people think of when they think "Linux Kernel"

Aditya

@jrg mainline kernel is what is available at kernel.org... isn't it? just a name which indicates that the original source is Linus Torvalds and not modified by someone else...

jrg

@Aditya it's even more specific than that.

it's a specific subset of the stuff from kernel.org

jokerdino

14:37

What do you guys see at this link? -- html2markdown.com

Aditya

@jrg okay... i would need to do a bit of reading on this stuff to understand this properly.. :-)

jokerdino

I get some Thai development site.

jrg

a stock photo of a baby

jokerdino

OK. For a sec, I was scared my DNS is poisoned.

Braiam

@jokerdino parking

jrg

14:38

it's a 404 page of a stock baby photo in Thai.

blade19899

huh

Aditya

@jrg @jokerdino @Braiam what are you all guys saying...

jrg

@jokerdino but it actually returns a 403 forbidden, not a 404.

jokerdino

@Braiam webcache.googleusercontent.com/…

I need a converter. :/

jrg

@jokerdino domchristie.github.io/to-markdown

same thing

jokerdino

14:39

yay

jrg

same people

blade19899

Windows 8....

Aditya

@jrg It's available for me..

blade19899

2

jrg

@Aditya Do you get the markdown converter?

blade19899

14:41

Too scary...

Aditya

@jrg yes.. let me take a screenshot

jokerdino

Are you not on Linux @Aditya?

Aditya

@jokerdino i am using ubuntu

jokerdino

I am on Fedora, Braiam on Debian and guess jrg on Windows 8.

jrg

Nope. Ubuntu.

Aditya

14:43

jrg

I finally finished the windows8 project @ work.

@Aditya guess that means it's still working its way through the internet.

Aditya

@jrg doesn't a hard refresh work for you guys..

jrg

@Aditya nope.

Alvar

@jokerdino im on windows 7

blade19899

Ubuntu 13.10. And when Trusty thar is out, I will be sticking with it, till the next LTS

jrg

14:53

I said that with 12.04. Didn't happen. :P

jokerdino

That's a brutal decision.

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