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RolandiXor

18:01

:'( I want a hamburger...

Ufoguy

My system is trashing when I connect it to ethernet directly, but when I use router as medium and connect to it using LAN it's fine.

I'm using MAC spoofing and am on Linux Mint 15

RolandiXor

@Ufoguy ↑

Cool name btw ;)

Ufoguy

The same is happening with Ubuntu 13.04 too.

And also Zorin OS

RolandiXor

You should open a question on the site that we can track (but make sure you make it about Ubuntu mainly or it would be off topic here).

Asking for help on chat with something so detailed is generally best done as a secondary option.

Thomas W.

@RolandiXor @jokerdino emergency migration requirement - askubuntu.com/questions/402350/why-cant-i-access-the-chat to meta

Mitch

18:07

RolandiXor

@ThomasW. NEVAH! I WILL NOT BE TAKEN ALIVE (OR DEAD! OR AT ALL)

Oh wait, Jokerdino got it already :)

@Mitch lol...

Ask Ubuntu Meta

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Q: Why can't i access the chat?

I can't access the chat despite having 25 reputation why is it can you tell me how to do it thank you everyone it will be big help now a see have too 35 reputation so how?

Thomas W.

@jokerdino it's because of a lagtime in syncing, right?

jokerdino

i think so

Thomas W.

if so my answer states that can we figure out who downvoted it so I can slap them upside the head?

jokerdino

18:11

he still needs to have an account of sorts to chat

Thomas W.

then post your answer and i'll upvote :p

because y'all better at those things than me :p

@RolandiXor and lol at the cat gif on your profile xD

jokerdino

I noticed something.

Thomas W.

@jokerdino the end is nigh? I deleted my post? /dev/null never returns anything? the kernel is sufficiently different from the base linux kernel? (your statement is vague)

RolandiXor

@ThomasW. ;)

jokerdino

is it maybe cuz im india, sri lanka? — user233275 1 min ago

You can't be in different countries at the same time

Thomas W.

18:18

@jokerdino make a note that they just spammed with comments

I suggest you confirm the point I just made to them in a comment to not spam the comments like they're a chat systme.

Aditya

YAY.... compilation finished, installation done, bug resolved... I can use bluetooth once again

Thomas W.

also I suggest a moderator respond with an actual reason for this issue they have.

wilf

@user233275 ?

jokerdino

Please no.

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@user233275 Hello?

Thomas W.

43 secs ago, by jokerdino

Please no.

@jokerdino I lol'd. xD

wilf

18:21

@user233275 For those that don't know, this is in reference to meta.askubuntu.com/questions/8045/why-cant-i-access-the-chat

jokerdino

> thank u vry much i like your help – user233275 11 mins ago

Thomas W.

@jokerdino indeed.

jokerdino

@ThomasW. It was a little instinctive.

@wilf Thanks for being a proxy for chat.

@Aditya Yay

Thomas W.

@jokerdino :P

wilf

:D

jokerdino

18:25

comment 5 mins ago Why can't i access the chat? @user233275 oyi, patience, this isn't a chat system. Wait for responses. It's not becau... comment 14 mins ago Why can't i access the chat? Your meta rep lags behind your main site rep, they'll eventually sync. post edited 14 mins ago Why can't i access the chat? answer 14 mins ago Why can't i access the chat? You need 20 rep apparently. Anyway, just scroll to the bottom of the page and look for chat: o... question migrated 15 mins ago Why can't i access the chat? Your post has been migrated to Ask Ubuntu Meta. — user233275 31 secs ago

O:

Thomas W.

@jokerdino can you prune some of his irrelevant comments please?

/me senses spammer, strangely enough

jokerdino

@ThomasW. you mean everything?

user104975

hi everyone

user104975

welcome from sri lanka :)

RolandiXor

hi

wilf

18:26

la la la

user104975

i need to thank you

wilf

:D

RolandiXor

my solution worked?

user104975

sorry i don't know

Aditya

@jokerdino Now... I would file a couple of more bug reports :)

user104975

18:27

can u explain spamm?

Thomas W.

@jokerdino pretty much

Seth

@user233275 Oh so you can access chat...

jokerdino

@Aditya good luck

RolandiXor

@wilf be nice. Let's not jump to conclusions.

user104975

u can cancel the post

RolandiXor

18:27

@ThomasW. stop it please.

Thomas W.

@RolandiXor um...

@RolandiXor think you're misinterpreting

user104975

tank u :)

Thomas W.

1 min ago, by user233275

can u explain spamm?

@RolandiXor or did you miss that question of his

RolandiXor

I know; but I saw your earlier statement.

I'm just linking three events together.

user104975

yes solution worked goodly

jokerdino

18:29

@RolandiXor I linked something in the safe.

RolandiXor

He wouldn't ask what spam is if wilf didn't mention it.

@jokerdino kk

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: The other users: avahi, root, syslog, messagebus,, nobody, ntp, rtkit and whoopsie

What are all these other users (found them with top) when running Ubuntu: avahi, root, syslog, messagebus,, nobody, ntp, rtkit and whoopsie. I am aware that whoopsie, for example, is for reporting errors to Canonical. When I run 'who' I only see me (terminal and graphical display). Why don't ...

ubuntu users

user104975

Is stackexhange sri lanka available?

user104975

legal?

user104975

im afraid of government

user104975

18:29

want to speak with free words

user104975

maybe the chat is censor gratis

user104975

free*

user104975

make no war my friends everything is just alright

user104975

:)

Seth

We really ought to kill that mint tag: askubuntu.com/questions/402363/linuxmint14-how-to-log-in

user104975

18:31

pls tell me if this is legal :&

Seth

How are we to know?

jokerdino

@Seth It's not even about mint os. it's about the mint community.

user104975

an sorry for bad english

user104975

me too not know

Seth

@jokerdino I know.. So close it!

user104975

18:31

but i not want prison or kill for government

user104975

im ur friends

user104975

sri lanka is relly bad when come to censor

RolandiXor

@user233275 it is legal. Relax.

user104975

swear in name of god

RolandiXor

No.

Seth

18:32

good grief.

user104975

ok i believe it

jokerdino

Hey, what was that domain that guy was selling? gogtray.com?

Seth

Hey, you still have a hat @RolandiXor? Hax!

user104975

google.com/…

RolandiXor

@Seth pure and clean hax ;)

user104975

18:33

I read it but i don't understand

RolandiXor

@user233275 if it were censored, you would not be here. Relax.

Braiam

@Aditya gratz, now put that in a bug report in launchpad and add your patch ;)

user104975

oh then is ok thank

Seth

@RolandiXor I downloaded all the hats lol. So yeah, pure and clean

user104975

:))

Aditya

18:34

@Braiam Done: bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1245150/comments/…

RolandiXor

@Seth mine is a screenshot of my avatar from when I had this hat :D

Seth

Ahh.

Well it looks nice

user104975

I want be sri lanka moderatr if it can because see many problems

user104975

I am hacker in sri lanka language but make no problem here

user104975

I steal account on facebook to learn and give the back

user104975

18:38

am perfect for moderatr

user104975

?

RolandiXor

I think you are perfect for a timeout...

user104975

why this?

user104975

am not steal ur account

RolandiXor

(And to think I'm the guy who asked people to give you the benefit of the doubt and be nice to you.)

You're stealing my patience, quite effectively.

user104975

18:40

am just tryin to learn hacker

user104975

why have problem?

Braiam

@RolandiXor I prefer being honest... being nice it's not nice...

@user233275 this is not the place ;)

RolandiXor

@Braiam it wasn't a matter of not being honest, when I asked people to let up.

user104975

in internet it say u need steal an give back account when u learn

user104975

but am not speal picture or other and i give password back

jokerdino

18:41

O_o

RolandiXor

That's enough.

Have an hour to think.

Braiam

@Aditya ok, did you added the bisection that was asked? the bug is still incomplete ;)

RolandiXor

And let us do likewise.

Seth

An hour is a long time Roland.

@jokerdino How did you make those pretty graphs?

Aditya

@Braiam I have been performing that bisection for the last 1 month :)

RolandiXor

18:42

@Seth in this situation, I think it is meritted.

jokerdino

@Seth Not me. slhck did it using R

Seth

@RolandiXor shrug

@jokerdino Oh, R?

Interesting.

I tried playing around with graph charts in LibreOffice... don't try that.

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Aditya

and most of the time I faced the situation of not being able to boot to the kernel... needed to skip that commit to proceed further.. it was extremely tiring..

jokerdino

@Seth haha

Braiam

@Aditya oh well, the tag is still there, make sure that they correct it

Aditya

18:44

@Braiam Yes.. I have left the message... Christopher (who is looking at this bug) would edit the tags as necessary... I am not too familiar with Launchpad - so no point in editing it the wrong way..

jokerdino

@Seth At the least, I use the charts in Google Docs.

Seth

@jokerdino I should try those.

Braiam

err... this mold like a dupe of something, but too little information to mark it askubuntu.com/q/329566/169736

jokerdino

@Seth There is a R course in codeschool.

And Andreusk suggested d3.js

Ask Ubuntu Meta

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Q: What canned responses do you use on ask ubuntu?

While stumbling though stack exchange sites I came across stackapps and [this excellent tool][1] that allows one to auto-respond to many questions with pre-written responses. Similarly, I've notice that many questions on this site require variations of the same steps, and was using AutoKey to st...

discussion

Seth

18:48

@jokerdino codeschool is cool, but expensive.

jokerdino

Should try the R cookbook maybe

Seth

We really need to vote more, people! → unbrokenspectrum.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/d_m_score_2013.png

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RolandiXor

@Seth yes!

Seth

Looks like we also need people to write better titles on their questions...

jokerdino

Is that a "vote more, people" or "vote more people"?

Seth

18:52

The former.

RolandiXor

both?

:D

Seth

I guess I need a comma there...

Rinzwind

it is like that BBC broadcaster. He opend the news with:
"Good morning pedophiles"
and forgot to add a pause after "morning".

Seth

lol

jokerdino

►

RolandiXor

18:54

yikes!

jokerdino

@Seth Where?

Seth

Ooopps..

jokerdino

oh, you mean the chat?

Seth

it was Roland

/me didn't check first.

jokerdino

Someone markup that.

RolandiXor

18:57

@jokerdino that is a classic :D

jokerdino

@RolandiXor Always cracks me up.

RolandiXor

There was once a guy (true story!) named Joseph Joseph Joseph

And seeing as this is the Caribbean... he got beat by the teacher for trying to be a clown in class when he said his name :D

jokerdino

mistaken for a joke. lol

RolandiXor

Teacher: "What is your name?"
Joseph: "Joseph Joseph Joseph"

Licks galore!

jokerdino

But how does that name work?

Last name same as first and middle?

RolandiXor

19:02

yep :D

I know of a girl named T-A as well

Pronounced: "Tadasha"

Parents can be cruel :>

jokerdino

Some of them think it is funny to ruin their kid's lives.

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RolandiXor

I wonder if they still think it's funny when their children get beat up

jokerdino

I wonder too

Ask Ubuntu Meta

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Q: Pleass open chat i need it

Please I live in sri lanka. And want to speak word free. i'm just a good guy not trying to steal every thing forever promise

discussion

Seth

@RolandiXor --^

Guess you'd better handle that one.

RolandiXor

19:11

@Seth done and done :)

Seth

Oh, I missed your answer.

RolandiXor

I am | ← that close to giving him a longer time to think.... offline :)

@Seth I was still writing when you pinged, no worries :)

Seth

@RolandiXor I think it should be okay.. He just doesn't understand.

RolandiXor

Yeah, he is probably paranoid because of the conditions in his country with regards to the government and the internet.

Hopefully, he will calm down soon.

Braiam

err... I was thinking my english was so broken... his seems straight from some automatic translator (I hope isn't google)

jokerdino

19:23

it's no translator.

sorry, now u can speak

Rinzwind

and then he gets banned in chat by another mod >:D

RolandiXor

=)

I will not even reply to him this time.

In my family, I am the quiet one.

So, since this community is like family, I am quiet.

fossfreedom

jeez ... its all happening in this chat room today. Drama indeed.

Rinzwind

is this offtopic?

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Q: Getting Access to the Source Code of Standard Shared Libraries in Linux

How can I get access to the source code of standard shared libraries? Thanks

source-code shared-library

fossfreedom

no - sounds like a dupe of askubuntu.com/questions/167468/…

same answer anyway

Rinzwind

19:27

even better :+)

Braiam

@Rinzwind bad question...

> source code of standard shared libraries?

there are thousands! which ones are you looking for?

@fossfreedom depends the answer he's looking for...

Rinzwind

time for some Coca-Cola :+) ILLBB

Malte Skoruppa

19:42

@Rinzwind I don't mind in principle posting my answer to that other thread, but it seems to contain very similar answers already. It might be more sensible to mar the question as a duplicate, I think.

Thomas W.

@GabrielF While this technically answers the question, it would be preferable if you provide the key points in the link as part of your answer, in the off-chance the link ends up dying eventually. — Thomas W. 2 hours ago

@ThomasW. I understand your concern, and I believe that's quite an interesting issue, but don't I need permission (either from the author or the website) to copy the relevant parts? — GabrielF 1 hour ago

You've already linked to the source, @GabrielF. Leave the source link in place and all should be fine. (ubuntuforums.org won't kill you for that) You'll notice I did so on this answer to another question where I lifted the steps from their site and put them here, but I specifically said the source was not my own. That hasn't been sniped yet, because it's not me stealing information, I said "It's their work, I just copied it to here." — Thomas W. 1 hour ago

@ThomasW. I'm still not convinced... this doesn't answer this simple question: may you copy the contents of the blog such as you did? I can see that linking isn't very appreciated around here, but I'd rather follow this philosophy. The key point here is: I don't have the answer, I'm not sharing my knowledge... I'm sharing my finding. Shouldn't/can we move this to a chat or meta? — GabrielF 29 mins ago

RolandiXor

@ThomasW. welcome back. Our friend was not a spammer, but he wasn't any better anyway.

Thomas W.

I'm pretty certain I'm in the right, here, because there's no harm in copying content to this site so long as a link back to the source exists, am i right?

@RolandiXor meh, I've moved past it

RolandiXor

@ThomasW. I hope you understood what I was saying, in spite of all the misunderstanding.

Thomas W.

@RolandiXor yes, however, I moved past it, and am focusing on other issues.

RolandiXor

19:45

cool.

Thomas W.

such as the one above

@RolandiXor you're most qualified as a mod to answer such things, is there any policy violations by him (GabrielF) copying in content from a linked-to ubuntuforums.org post?

so that in the off chance the thread goes bye-bye the key points are saved.

RolandiXor

@ThomasW. not AFAIK.

Thomas W.

@RolandiXor that's what I thought, he's trying to follow some philosophy on meta that's this: meta.askubuntu.com/questions/4007/…

I don't think that philosophy applies anymore :/

or at least, not to THIS situation

RolandiXor

@ThomasW. you're right

Link to my reply if you like

Thomas W.

i created a bookmark so i can quote the entire convo hope nobody minds.

RolandiXor

19:51

@ThomasW. no worries, quote away.

Thomas W.

done. :)

Braiam

btw, @Oli might find interesting how his words were taken ;) maybe he would like to be more explicit

@ThomasW. backed you up there ;)

Thomas W.

@Oli PING: Read up, your words are being used poorly, perhaps your post should be more explicit in the wording

@Oli @Braiam brought it up, not me, address comments therein to him :P

@Braiam Thanks. Well, ultimately, though, even our mods are backing up my assessment, and confirmed on the chat, so yeah... :P

thanks for the backup though :)

(the whole "Chat with a moderator" thing, though, kinda backs up the statement a lot :P)

Braiam

someone might want to delete this stuff askubuntu.com/q/8500/169736

Thomas W.

This makes me happy:

(in my flags counts)
1170 moderator attention flags
1000 deemed helpful

Braiam

19:58

;)

Thomas W.

@GabrielF refer to this

which is a discussion I had with @RolandiXor here on this. :)

RolandiXor

hi

GabrielF

@ThomasW., @Braiam, @RolandiXor, @Oli: I was specifically talking about this part "But that doesn't mean they're all evil. Some links come from necessity - needing to post a video, or not having copyright over a post (and not being able to understand it enough to adapt). There are valid examples."

Thomas W.

@GabrielF but later on in the same post, the same moderator, Oli, says "But link only answers aren't great"

and 99.999999999% of the time I downvote them

until the details are added in

RolandiXor

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