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@guntbert Here?

badp

...compiz seems to work, under xfce

@Seth, yes

badp

otoh compiz doesn't seem to work

@guntbert Hey. I see you saw Marco's comment..

They just changed a lot of stuff in how it works.

8:08 PM

@badp fyi, you can make compiz work under xfce. lxde is another thing (if it works it's painful and not worth it)

Like yesterday.

@Seth and i acted, already created a new pull request

Right. I saw that. :)

I guess I'll have to update my tutorial a lot more now.

After a figure out pulling, committing, pushing, squashing, etc from git itself.

What I did was: destroy my fork, create a new one, created a local clone, commited, pushed, then from the web GUI created the pull request, working only in the web GUI is too unpredictable for me

@Seth moar intereseting is reverse engineering beta and arduino beta

8:12 PM

@guntbert Oh wow you figured it out already? Nice :)

Creating pull requests has to be done from GitHub.

@CallmeV Sure. That was for @TheLordofTime.

@Seth the way i did it was fork to a different user on github(still master), branch, operate on branch, merge branch in to master on my user, suggest pull request from master to master

That might work alright.

I think I'll just learn to use git.

that DID work

@Seth I followed help.github.com/articles/fork-a-repo

at the moment I am reading git-scm.com/book

removed

8:16 PM

@guntbert Oh cool. Thanks for the links.

A lot of angry ranters today :/

i removed it because my brain fired on scala and i misinterpreted

Q: The on going problem with Linux software centre and driver downloads

Oh sorry, not you.

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Really tags no allowed with out as called existing reputation? What bunk? Not a geek. unclear and confusing. The on going problem with Linux is there is not a straight forward "non geek" aka "non terminal" approach to making things like a Brother MFC-240C multifunction machine work. Work: mean...

drivers

This

and this:

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Q: How are the chances that I can run Ubuntu Touch on a Archos Family Pad 2 soon?

I am looking into buying a Tablet and I like the huge Archos Family Pad 2 very much. I looked at lists here but not even the first version is listed there? Will some day all Android devices be able to run Ubuntu or since it not a major Brand his may take ages? And this is not a duplicate at ...

ubuntu-touch

@Seth talking to him isn't going to fix it, much like this guy never came to chat because he knows he's just complaining meta.askubuntu.com/questions/6500/…

That guy is at least being nice and trying to understand the site.

The other guys are just ranting and yelling.

fair enough...but telling me to read the faq is a little like telling popeye to eat spinach

8:20 PM

Sure sure.

Language barrier I think.

@CallmeV so IReadTheFAQ is your middle name ;-)) ?

You know what i meant...

He's just joking @CallmeV

it's not like i'm only active on one stack site or anything ;)

I know ;)

8:29 PM

@Takkat - I will remember @GeorgeEdison For Evah as the @NathanOsman of old.

:)

also, almost done with that c++ class i was tinerking on converting from C to meaningful c++

A: Recommendation of web server admin control panel (free, open source, deb package)?

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We've recently launched a modern, free control panel for Ubuntu servers. We let you manage all of your servers from one, central interface. We're focused on managing web applications and databases. We don't do email management at the moment. You can try us out at: https://freedomcp.com We're a...

?

hmm...

on one hand the tool might be useful

otoh - is it just spam?

That's what I was asking...

Not sure how we treat these things.

8:45 PM

:)

I'm gonna leave you with the question of the day: " Is putting a x-post tag in the title necessary or rather annoying?"

Okay, thanks! Is putting a x-post tag in the title necessary or rather annoying? — YumTum 7 hours ago

G'Night

Yeah.. Lemme check that out.

@guntbert Night! Good luck with git!

@Seth E: Already aware.

Oh cool.

Didn't see you as a user.

@Seth i'm aware of it, that doesn't necessarily mean I use it.

besides, #bitcoin @ irc.freenode.net

Sure sure.

8:51 PM

@guntbert, @Seth Hi guys, it's definitely not automated spam. Our control panel is Ubuntu-specific, so we thought it was relevant.

will definitely understand if it's "too" spammy. is there a better way to go about it?

(we only launched our private beta last week)

I think that post there is an example of "not a true answer"

(1) private beta != public beta

which also != launched

(2) the user seems to be asking for a deployable, on-premises solution

(i.e. THEY run the software on their own systems without any third-party-site interface

@Kevin Sure, it sounds relevant..

)

It was just the way it was written that made me think. We've been combating spam recently.

@TheLordofTime ah, that's a fair point about #1. we've been handing out accounts to everyone that signs up though :)

8:54 PM

doesn't mean that it's viable

also 'beta' raises a flag

i missed the text for #2, let me go check again

"Recommendation of web server admin control panel (free, open source, deb package)?"

After a reread I think your fine ATM.

in the title

i agree you're fine, but it still doesn't truly provide a solution

esp. since there's an accepted +300 bounty-rewarded answer for webmin

of course, I didn't see zentyal on there anywhere.

and that's in the repos :P

@Seth great, thanks.

8:57 PM

... i think i need to find a taser and taser myself... too many memes flying around my brain :/

@TheLordofTime ah, I figured since we're not charging it'd be okay

It would be cool if you could add some more info later on though ;)

@Kevin I didn't say you weren't OK.

It's a little bare at the moment.

but i was pointing out the few red flags it throws for me.

(that, and zentyal is in the repos, and nobody suggested it, which means nobody knows anything)

8:59 PM

@TheLordofTime gotcha, thanks for pointing them out.

yup.

returns to facedesking because of memes floating around his head

@Seth sure. we weren't uncertain if putting a lot more info would be considered very spammy or not.

@Kevin I think adding more info would make it less spammy...

@Kevin better to have more info than less

@Seth this

@Kevin more detailed answers can help to weed out spam, especially if you're describing features, functionality, etc.

great, i'll get on it

9:03 PM

Also, one more tip, I recommend that your friend/coworker/etc put a little more on his profile or at least get rid of the automated username. That way he doesn't look like a one stop advertise and leave user. We've been getting those recently.

@Seth Agreed

@Seth Yeah, I'll recommend that. I just had the fortune of deciding to create an account a while ago.

:)

website: visitmywebsite.com
username: website
profile description: have you checked out the product at visitmywebsite.com

answer: our product solves this question. see visitmywebsite.com
OP: user123456789

^^ this happens a lot

Someone had uploaded code into Launchpad?

9:07 PM

@Lucio wut?

@Lucio what?

I should enter something like this: bzr push lp:~user_name/+junk/BRANCHNAME

@CallmeV What means wut?

@CallmeV Right. That's why I questioned it. I think this one is OK though.

@Lucio "Has someone uploaded code to launchpad with bzr?" is a question. "Someone had uploaded code into launchpad" is a statement

Oh, right

Had someone uploaded some code into Launchpad?

9:09 PM

also, i'm not a fan of the bizarre bazaar, i like the git and package

@CallmeV me neither.

I think that, by now, my question was silently answered: No.

Do you want to talk to someone who has @Lucio?

You mean "Has someone uploaded code to Launchpad"? "Had" it past tense.

@CallmeV ah, yes. very easy to see that..

definitely our mistake.

I want to upload code into Launchpad, how can I do this?

Ah OK.

@Lucio I honestly am not sure, but we do have several users who have ongoing launchpad projects.

I don't know if it would make a good question or not though.

9:17 PM

I should read the next link (a tutorial) but it is not working:

doc.bazaar-vcs.org/bzr.dev/en/mini-tutorial/index.html

@NathanOsman @jokerdino @mateo_salta --^

@Lucio Ooh. Yeah. Not working for me either.

Is that site broken or it is not working just for me?

@Seth thanks

What's up?

Very crazy behavior :S

Wha...

9:20 PM

@NathanOsman When I enter bzr push lp:~user_name/+junk/BRANCHNAME I get: bzr: ERROR: Not a branch: "/home/desktop/".

@Lucio because you have to bzr init

Aha!

just like you have to init git repos.

<html>
	<head>
		<meta http-equiv="refresh" content="0; doc.bazaar-vcs.org/en/">;
	</head>
</html>

That is right, but how can I make it work?

9:20 PM

That would do it.

@NathanOsman @Lucio Would like help with bzr.

@Lucio i just told you how?

bzr init

bzr add *

The docs page isn't working.

or rather bzr add ./*

Right, you need to run bzr init to initialize the repository.

P.S. Someone should file a bug.

9:21 PM

@Lucio You should be able to do man bzr. That might not be a whole lot of help though.

just like you need git init to use git in a folder.

@Lucio So you have your project's folder with the code.

You would cd to that folder and run bzr init before you can move the code to Launchpad.

@CallmeV You're right

That worked, bzr init

doc.bazaar.canonical.com is completely broken

Attempting to view the page http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/ results in very strange browser behavior - the page continuously refreshes over and over again. Upon closer inspection, it seems like the problem is due to the following HTML source for the page: <html> <head> <meta http-equiv="refresh" content="0; http://doc.bazaar-vcs.org/en/"> </head> </html> This basically forces the page to reload continously, and in fact is a serious security problem as it could easily lead to a DDOS attack if enough people visited the page.

Bazaar All Docs Website

Undecided / New

@Rolandixor Foss removed stuff from his post without a comment. I can see how he would take that as rude.

@Lucio: Can you please click "This bug affects me".

I don't want to disagree in a comment though.

9:25 PM

...and anyone else who can reproduce the behavior?

@NathanOsman That is the most worst web page of the whole Internet.

@NathanOsman doing it

@Seth I would too, if it were not for the fact that he's been around long enough to know better.

@NathanOsman /me doesn't have Launchpad account.

@RolandiXor Can you please confirm the bug too?

mateo_salta

same...

9:26 PM

That and the fact that this is nothing new with him.

@RolandiXor Em.. IMO Foss should have left a comment.

He caused a big furore once because some comment was irrelevant in his opinion (in reality, it wasn't). Ended up being a long Meta thread and all.

Yes I know.

@NathanOsman checking.

@Seth in this case my attention was called to it because he flagged (again) with a wall of text.

@RolandiXor Be careful...

9:28 PM

@RolandiXor Oh my.

@NathanOsman o_o

I see what you mean.

He's going to find himself flag banned.

@Roland: Please check off the 'affects me too' if you get a chance.

Sure.

Confirmed.

doc.bazaar.canonical.com/en <--- this works

9:30 PM

BBL

it could easily lead to a DDOS attack if enough people visited the page interesting

@NathanOsman thanks man

No problem.

Denial-of-service attack

In computing, a denial-of-service attack (DoS attack) or distributed denial-of-service attack (DDoS attack) is an attempt to make a machine or network resource unavailable to its intended users. Although the means to carry out, motives for, and targets of a DoS attack may vary, it generally consists of the efforts of one or more people to temporarily or indefinitely interrupt or suspend services of a host connected to the Internet. Perpetrators of DoS attacks typically target sites or services hosted on high-profile web servers such as banks, credit card payment gateways, and even root ...

:D

Actually, maybe not.

It appears (in my case at least) that Firefox is caching the pages.

I'm using the fox too

mateo_salta

9:49 PM

hm, same in safari, opera, and rekonq (the page constantly reloading)

Interesting. You use Rekonq?