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1:00 PM

what does this mean => Ubuntu Alternate amd64+mac

It is an alternate installer.

Different from live ISO

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Q: Difference between Live CD and Alternate CD?

I came across this term Alternate CD. How it different from a Live CD? Also why cant we upgrade using a live cd while we can using an alternate one as mentioned here? The link does not specify anything about the live cd.

live-cd alternate

wrong guess I guess.

@jokerdino Ooh, Ashu. I know him IRL :)

@Manishearth Oh do you?

yeah, he was my classmate

1:02 PM

oh nice.

I don't know him well, but yeah, I know him :)

Knowing him is better than not knowing him ;)

Classmates who meet here is great!

AbrahamVanHelpsing

@jokerdino and askubuntu.com/questions/37999/…

@mojo706 ^

1:04 PM

I found out in a rather weird way. This answer of his contained a pic with very bad kerning. I recognized that bad kerning from a book. Compound that with the fact that his name was visible to me on his profile, and I basically found out. Called him up later :)

actually that pic was from some pdf or something that the teacher had distributed. I think. Forgot now.

wow, we might have a forensic expert right here

Sherlock Manishearth Holmes.

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lol

I have never been as self-conscious about my handwriting as when I was inking in the caption for this comic.

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yeah - once you see things they nag

@manishearth then there is me - a random guy at walks up at church and says something about Ask Ubuntu and why did I edit his answer.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

1:08 PM

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@jrg lol

I've never had to explain the stack exchange philosophy since.

@jrg did someone really do that?

according to @Manishearth's image nobody really hates me :)

@Manishearth you majored in Chemistry?

@mojo706 what? nope

I'm a first year undergrad in physics

then was this high school chem?

1:17 PM

@mojo706 yeah

Oh ok.

@mojo706 yes.

@jrg Hahahaha tears

man, setting up a new system is frustrating.

even more so when i have to learn another package manager to set it up.

@jrg what system? I could help or may be laugh

1:25 PM

@mojo706 fedora, development laptop.

yum was fun.

decided i wasn't going to learn anything more by using ubuntu full-time on the lappie.

Cannot help you there :(

Did anyone ever say that?

@jokerdino yum is fun.

it's actually pretty slick, the way they do deltarpms.

1:26 PM

i like the idea of delta-rpms

yep, that

i wouldn't mind using Fedora if Unity is ported to it.

@jrg is it the same Laptop?

@mojo706 yeah.

I am already considering Arch since there is Unity packaged in AUR.

@jokerdino me too I heard that last week. Only problem is where to install Arch

Dual boot or triple boot.

1:28 PM

@jrg now you have Fedora and Ubuntu?

@mojo706 i now have fedora desktops and ubuntu server.

Ubuntu server on the laptop? Or I dont have a clue what i'm talking about

ubuntu server on the server.

desktop on the laptop ;)

er, yeah, whatever. :P

1:31 PM

yes I was confused. :)

to add this: laptop is on the desktop

what do you think of this => https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibreOffice_1to4_sml.jpeg
would you wear this T?

too much of a half eaten apple...

i will wear any free tshirts.

i will repeat this again: Free tshirts? I will wear them.

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@jrg hahahaha

@Takkat thought so too

1:36 PM

After all, tshirts are currency.

there are many things i will do for tshirts that people can't get me to do for money.

@jrg very true

like doing UX testing. i did that for puppet labs, and i got a really cool tshirt.

Wow, our election primaries got some lots of traffic?

i also decided to use puppet instead of chef for our house machines, after I got the tshirt. see?

> 4,269 voters were eligible, 0 visited the site during the election, 818 visited the election page, and 0 voted

that's not "lots".

I dont see the numbers but seeing three 100+ votes is quite something.

compared to the previous SU election that is

1:40 PM

ok, yes it's more than double the previous year, but yeah.

yeah

do you need rep to vote?

yeah, like 150 or something like that.

Yeah, 15 rep to vote on posts.

@jokerdino hahaha I mean't on the elections.

1:43 PM

hm that one.. 150 rep

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Q: how to use ubuntu 12.10 with window 8

I have already installed window 8 I downloaded the set up of Ubuntu 12.10 and installed it from my window 8 c partition when I open Ubuntu one my c partition hidden and no software installed in Ubuntu even my 3g wireless network device what can I do to resolve this problem or how to software open...

sigh WUBI, y u exist?

@jrg I have a separate part of my closet for those kinds of tees

@Manishearth may be he used WUBI. Only that he wants to access C drive

I know he used WUBI. I'm expressing my hatred towards wubi

(as one of the go-to guys for comp problems in the insti, I've had a few folks come to me asking for help on a wubi system. Makes me frowny-face)

hehehe I asked him how he installed Ubuntu

i heartily agree.

1:49 PM

@jrg agree with what?

I think wubi makes him go frowny face as well

:P

:P

@mojo706 manishhearth's sentiments about wubi.

I used WUBI first before knowing what else to do

It's like "Come to my room whenever you want and I'll install Ubuntu properly for you. No problem. But, please, please, whatever you do, please, don't use WUBI. Did I mention please?"

1:52 PM

hahaha

When I see wubi, I'm like

user image

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star

@jokerdino boston?

well, nothing.

Something reminded me of Boston. i can't recall

? Well, I'm from Boston (Malden to be exact), if that helps :P

1:55 PM

that might be it

though i am not sure how

@Manishearth anyway, are you comfortable with python?

and have lots of free time.

@jokerdino comfortable? not really. I'm ok with it.

bbl, got some work

2:16 PM

BBT

TY for your help

cya @mojo706

Journeyman Geek

2:45 PM

reads up

why the hate for wubi? :/

that's what got me started on ubuntu

that, and the free cds

Wubi prevents people from purging Windows which is a critical bug

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Journeyman Geek

lol

people need to ease into a new OS

hell, I dualboot

(funny thing was, I took the long way to convert my wubi install into a real partition. Things kept going wrong. Twas an AWESOME learning experience)

yeah it's good for try-outs but sooner or later all people need to get rid of Wubi. Dual boot is not really much more complicated to set up (except the risk of partitioning of course).

Is @RolandiXor here/

As you say. Converting Wubi to dual-boot is a real pain.

2:51 PM

exactly

Journeyman Geek

there used to be a tool for it

now, I'd just hit it with remastersys

course, I now have spare hard drives just for such things ;p

Backup -> restore is the only sensible way, because we need backups to do such things anyway.

<-- never has his backups up to date

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Oh backups.

i have backups, i memorize all the important stuff. like my code.

Its all the terabyte's fault.

If we had our drives in MB still a backup could be done in seconds.

2:55 PM

heh

What is this "backup" you guys talk about?

I still have an old 64MB thumb drive

May 23 '11 at 11:47, by Takkat

@Achu backup is for cowards :P

I have my floppy disc. ;)

@Takkat So. Bloody. True.

2:57 PM

I did my star fish assignment and saved it in.

I have my Atari 512 ST somewhere in the attic.

512 is RAM in kbyte.

user image

Oh noes - I missed it.

When did that happen, I passed 50k some time ago.

Congrats!

50k is quite a mark. ;)

Hopefully, you won't miss the 100k mark.

What - for my inconciousness?

I will miss the 100k the same.

It must have happened quite some time ago.

you can relive crossing the 50k mark.

Journeyman Geek

lol

3:02 PM

we can all downvote you.

Time for bounties to give away!

i can delete a lot of stuff and make you lose reputation.

do not despair, we have options.

our friendly mod is here :)

Yeah - I bet there is a lot of dusty old answers around...

i'm not friendly.

Journeyman Geek

3:04 PM

I actually have no idea what my network rep is,
oddly enough

mine was around 20k-ish..

i wanted to cross 15k on AU. and it takes eternity

@JourneymanGeek you're 53.5k

Journeyman Geek

yeah

chat.stackexchange.com/users/10208/journeyman-geek

Journeyman Geek

o0

ahh

yeah

3:06 PM

Wait, how?

Does it include the meta?

Journeyman Geek

@jokerdino: he means me

bad tab complete

oh

sowwy

too many j's

3 j-s around is bad for tab-complete.

jinx

3:07 PM

Good thing we don't have Jorge around.

@jokerdino chat rep = sum of all reps (unlike flair rep) on sites where you have rep.

(so, not metas, but MSO is part of it)

Yeah, that's what I thought all along. jrg confused me for a sec.

I am planning to get to 150 rep on the sites I currently have accounts in. Kinda like levelling ;)

@jokerdino I have accounts on all sites

Actually, 200 rep. It gets counted in flair.

:P

Even on private betas which I don't have access to

(i figured out how to break into private betas)

3:10 PM

@Manishearth :P i just log in in topics I am remotely interested in.

ever tried dev.superuser.com?

I think one of the white hats linked me.

dev.so.com used to work

Hey, dev.so is public now!

brb dinner time.

so we stick around on dev.so and watch all the fun toys land?

because i'm ok with this.

dev.careers.stackoverflow.com/beta-access?returnurl= < AHH YEAH!

3:27 PM

@Manishearth i think i know how you figured out how to do it.

Hi everyone.

Hey @jrg :D

How's Fedora ;>?

it's pretty cool.

jrg has gone to the dark-side - we'll de-mod him. No worries, we've got 3 fresh mods to cover.

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But, don't you think that this also indicates a major problem with young moderators, @fossfreedom? What if those new mods also succumb to the dark side then?

3:43 PM

this indicates that i'm learning many new things

too easily influenced these younglings - the force is not strong with them.

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hey, a job is a job is a job.

@RolandiXor hey

Can you give me an 2buntu cloak on IRC? (LOL)

@smartboyhw uh, don't think we can do that.

@jrg @AmithKK has one:P

3:43 PM

let me find the conversation i had with a freenode staffer about that.

Oh?

Yeah it's not as simple as 123

i can't find it, but it's basically a "we need to talk to a freenode staffer, ask nicely, and they will maybe get back to us in about 3-4 weeks"

@jrg Grr?

and besides, if you get ubuntu membership, you'll get a ubuntu cloak. why bother?

unless it's a blatant advertisement.

for us, in which case, i'm ok with this.

3:48 PM

Let's see if I get one

90% chance:P

I got 10 testimonials now in my wiki

Far more than I expected

Grrrr I don't know I had such lot total rep:P

@jrg it's not hard :) it takes a few tries, but you get it in the end :)

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: Suddenly, I Can't login with correct password (greeter & tty)

This might be a duplicate of other password related questions but it's somehow eccentric. I have three accounts in my Ubuntu 12.10 system (one standard and two administrators). One of the administrator accounts is my main development account and suddenly before yesterday, it started to act weird...

ubuntu sudo root authentication unity

I need to fix up my wiki page.

But I've been so busy with work recently I hardly remember anything else :P

I eat work, I sleep work, I... well... yeah.

appears

Grr

I got -6 :/

They should have a section explaining why I should be downvoted

@AmithKK I wouldn't worry too much - the votes looks pretty random throughout.

6 people obviously having a bad day

3:58 PM

Only if.. every single classmate of mine had a 150rep account

mwahahaha

sock alert!

@AmithKK we still have sock tools.

Well

we will hunt you out, like most 14-year-olds, i'm sure the socks will smell.

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@AmithKK maybe of the age problem

3:58 PM

They are not really socks

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@AmithKK LOL

Anyways. I promise by Darth Vader that I have never and will never use sockpuppets

dude, your feet will smell badly.

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ROTVFL

ROFL

There was a problem:

I know of 3 14-year-old Ubuntu contributors

Namely JoseeAntonioR from classroom and on Air!, @AmithKK in here and me

Grrrr:P

4:02 PM

Oh, there are many more users

Namely, every single person that I have converted to ubuntu

@AmithKK There are more. But at the "contributor" level only 3:P

@AmithKK That's great!

Ah, I want that no to Increase :P

Uhm ... Did our community bulletin just disappear?

gtg folks :)!

enjoy the day!

@AmithKK add oil

4:11 PM

@jrg check out the Ubuntu phone theme on your Nexus 7

@AmithKK damn my phone doesn't support it (Android 2.3.6)

Check this out

@AmithKK tried it.

@AmithKK record a vid? havent got a webcam

@jrg Wow you are fast :P

user image

:P

later

4:26 PM

And that kind of stuff is exactly why I removed the cam from my laptop.

BBT

Good Night

@AmithKK that was linked to like 3 days ago in the ux room :P

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Q: OpenVPN fails to start due to options error

I have followed the guide here https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/openvpn.html but when i try to start OpenVPN i get following error: ovpn-server[2455]: Options error: --server and --server-bridge cannot be used together How do i solve this problem?

openvpn error-handling

@guntbert Try this room ;)

Should we encourage the OP to answer it himself or to remove it because of "general user error"?

@FEichinger, really, just for opinions?

4:32 PM

@guntbert encourage

@guntbert nah, that's for closings and all

@Manishearth, I definitely want to encourage him, but in what direction?

oh oops

encourage him to answer

@guntbert I'd have discussions about whether or not to remove it over there. But I also agree on "Might wanna answer it yourself, since you found the answer yourself."

Could you post an answer detailing what you did? — Manishearth 6 secs ago

^ Perfect.

4:35 PM

@FEichinger: it was not about a "vote to close" :-)

@Manishearth, good, I will comment like you suggested.

ah you did already, thx

@AmithKK tried it yesterday.

4:51 PM

@AmithKK dont understand what it is doing

is it just a face tracker?

if so that's so last year :P

@Greg yeah, it tracks your face and re-sizes the text according to the approx distance between your face and the screen

ah ok cool

5:03 PM

-2

Q: I need to setup a vsftp download directory

I have ftp installed and need to setup users to upload a wordpress plugins

isn't that a nice comment?

hmm.., how does the following question deserve -6?

-6

Q: How can I uninstall Ubuntu when installed through Windows 7?

I installed Ubuntu without doing a partition, I ran the .exe from my Windows 7 OS. For the past week i've been trying to uninstall Ubuntu unsuccesfully. I went to the Windows 7 control panel to uninstall Ubuntu and the file was deleted from my C drive and there is no Ubuntu partition under the d...

wubi 64-bit uninstall delete

5:26 PM

is the main site bold to anyone else?

@jrg not for me

interesting.

@jrg you're a mod. The server treats you with extra font weight

@Manishearth i think my font rendering is just being weird.

it's only / that looks weird, and it's only in chrome.

6:06 PM

@Flimm: You might want to remove this comment. I have uploaded better screenshot.

@Aditya I don't think Flimm ever comes to chat

so he won't get your ping

I'd just add a comment, then you can remove it after he removes his, or you can flag it "Obsolete" :)

6:49 PM

@Seth: I think he would get the ping notification. BTW, not sure myself. I can't flag it as obsolete because I upvoted that comment. Anyways, I would leave a comment below the answer :)

How to manage a question like this

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Q: Ubuntu says 13.04 but lsb_release says 12.10

During investigations on my Samsung New Series 9 with 12.10 installed on it, I found this : Settings > details > Ubuntu 13.04 lsb_release > ubuntu 12.10 Is that possible ? I really think my printing problem is related to this inconsistency... Thank you.

Howdy

I mean, he shows info like 13.04 but says it is 12.10. What to do there?

@Myranda hi partner! ^^

Oh my god I just did the blondest thing ever I feel I just set feminism back a century!

what?

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