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Seth

12:00 AM

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Journeyman Geek

12:16 AM

@GeorgeEdison why would AU need questions on windows installer?

AbrahamVanHelpsing

Someone needs to write a userscript to rewrite all the stack exchange banners in snarky language an post screenshots.

Off-site of course, but it would be great for the lol.

@JourneymanGeek I have one on installing python in wine

@jrg they obviously should have let the pros at SE handle things...

AbrahamVanHelpsing

12:31 AM

Given the importance of moderator elections, I move to post "Election ^^" 8 times and have it pinned on the right.

Seth

Election ^^

AbrahamVanHelpsing

Come on Seth, 7 more. I'll burn stars for this

Seth

Election ^^

5

AbrahamVanHelpsing

Not saying it will get pinned...but

Seth

I'll do one more

Election ^^

5

AbrahamVanHelpsing

12:35 AM

Wait

Seth

waits

AbrahamVanHelpsing

Do we have one more taker? I need one for a recursion joke?

Seth

No one else here.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

/me is le sad

Journeyman Geek

Election ^^

7

Seth

12:37 AM

there appears to be a third person too

'cause Journeyman can't star his own

AbrahamVanHelpsing

halp

Seth

and it got 3

hey, that someone removed their star...

AbrahamVanHelpsing

Now there are two seth stars...of which there only need be one

3,2,1 thing

wait what?

Seth

this is weird.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

someone is goofing

Seth

12:41 AM

yes

AbrahamVanHelpsing

there...

Seth

there we go again

I bet its either jrg or joker

AbrahamVanHelpsing

i2.cdnds.net/12/05/618x378/screen-shot-2012-02-02-at-16.42

removed

Seth

okay, lets try again,

Election ^^

4

@AbrahamVanHelpsing don't star my last message

3

this is a test

AbrahamVanHelpsing

methinks if someone stars all of them it will fix the ordering

i give up on the recursion joke.

Seth

12:44 AM

← 2 messages moved from Ubuntu Regulators

@AbrahamVanHelpsing someone is really messing with this.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

rawr, just rawr. i wish i had enough socks to fix it, but i don't

Seth

ah well.

I've got another test

jokerdino

@Seth what was it?

Seth

@jokerdino So it was you :P

jokerdino

huh?

I am barely awake.

Seth

12:55 AM

@AbrahamVanHelpsing and I were playing a game with stars

AbrahamVanHelpsing

i was trying to get a star recursion joke in the star pane...while expressing the importance of elections. someone was goofing with making it not work

Seth

someone kept messing it up.

Anyway, just got my other test going. We'll see what happens.

jokerdino

lol

I am so hungry. brb

Seth

Oh great. I forgot a closing bracket :/

AbrahamVanHelpsing

Price is epic...fighting urge to drive to warehouse to pick one up tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/…

Seth

12:58 AM

oh wow.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

1:11 AM

it trumps my current lappie and comes close (except for GPU) to trumping my previous desktop. have i mentioned i want a desktop, but won't risk it?

Seth

I wouldn't risk it.

Someone fixed the stars it looks like

Seth

1:36 AM

@vasa1 I noticed Retext automatically saves files with .mkd extension. Do you get that too?

jokerdino

IIRC, retext handles markdown files

I think it is logical to save it as .mkd.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

okay. github think md is markdown though...

jokerdino

i prefer mkd though. md is too simplistic

Seth

I like mkd better too.

shrug

AbrahamVanHelpsing

consistency. like people consistently going through your belongings. as long as you know it's coming, it's okay

Seth

1:39 AM

lol

AbrahamVanHelpsing

removed

Seth

okay??

AbrahamVanHelpsing

I thought fans might get a chuckle out of how obvious it was...

jokerdino

2:20 AM

later folks.

jrg

2:42 AM

@AbrahamVanHelpsing i don't know, they really need to get suggested edits up-and-running.

because as a guy who has to camp in the fedora camp for a few weeks, i am really going to get sick of improperly coded markdown.

oh man, thats sad.

there are 5 people on their front page of users who are at 1K+ rep.

i've seen beta sites after 1 day with more rep.

gabemai

Hello, epoptes is not working with ubuntu and raspberry pi

jrg

1. how did you get ubuntu on the pi?

gabemai

when I try to fetch the certificate it says connection refused

i did not

the server is ubuntu

and the pi running raspbian is the client

jrg

ah, ok

gabemai

what do i do?

Journeyman Geek

2:48 AM

@jrg: markdown isn't too well standardised

jrg

so i recommend you ask that question on serverfault, or Unix & Linux.

gabemai

ok

Journeyman Geek

even on SE, I seem to think there's two different ways to do a link for example

jrg

@JourneymanGeek but when the command has underscores, STICK IT IN A FREAKIN CODE BLOCK

so your snake_case_command doesn't look like snake case command.

i can't even replicate it here.

Journeyman Geek

lol

jrg

3:04 AM

ask.fedoraproject.org/question/3918/… < basically, that guys command.

smartboyhw

3:22 AM

Hey @jrg @JourneymanGeek

Journeyman Geek

lo

smartboyhw

@JourneymanGeek I'm going after your rep in PURE Ask Ubuntu:P (Not including your big reputation in whole SE)

Election^^

I voted already:)

Journeyman Geek

@smartboyhw: I don't get this whole wanting to torpedo candidates ;p

smartboyhw

@JourneymanGeek LOL

Journeyman Geek

first my flags (which have tripled over the last week), now this

I mean, if you want me to pull out or something...

I mean, someone's already pulled out my days on site, my flags...

Seth

3:27 AM

@JourneymanGeek How serious do you consider this position?

Journeyman Geek

@Seth: If I didn't, I wouldn't be standing for it

smartboyhw

@JourneymanGeek Sure 39:P right?

Journeyman Geek

@smartboyhw: and counting

smartboyhw

Now now now don't talk about the election here:P

@JourneymanGeek so you're catching up my flags while I am catching up your rep:P

(LOL)

Journeyman Geek

askubuntu.com/users/17681/journeyman-geek?tab=activity <- I really much rather comment ;p

Seth

3:29 AM

@smartboyhw been retagging lately?

smartboyhw

@jrg move @seth's line to the election chatroom please

@Seth Got the enough rep

Journeyman Geek

@smartboyhw: my rep gain is not too spectacular. I haven't hit that point yet

Seth

@smartboyhw lol, I know. I cast the all changing vote :P

smartboyhw

@Seth Thx

Seth

:)

I keep my eye out.

smartboyhw

3:31 AM

@JourneymanGeek GO GO GO

Journeyman Geek

@smartboyhw: it just happens ;p

jrg

huh?

Journeyman Geek

I think i totally misunderstood @smartboyhw earlier ;p

jrg

i'm confused

smartboyhw

@jrg chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/8075663#8075663

Journeyman Geek

3:32 AM

so am I ;p

Seth

@smartboyhw If I notice a user with some nice answers near a threshold, I generally help him out a little.

smartboyhw

@JourneymanGeek @jrg !?!??!?!?!?!

Journeyman Geek

@smartboyhw: actually my rep on AU is not that much

jrg

@smartboyhw it's on-topic here

Journeyman Geek

its mostly edits

jrg

3:33 AM

if seth chose to put it here, it means it isn't part of the officially-official transcript.

smartboyhw

@JourneymanGeek That's why I am challeninging it. I think now I am 70-something behind you:P

jrg

so this is ok.

Journeyman Geek

ahh

ok

Seth

I'm starting to thing SO isn't such a bad place.

Journeyman Geek

@smartboyhw: I do spend less time here tho

smartboyhw

3:34 AM

@Seth LOL

Journeyman Geek

and I don't use ubuntu (kubuntu for me), so anything to do with unity is out

Seth

@JourneymanGeek we get are fair share of KDE questions.

Journeyman Geek

yeah

jrg

hey, @flabricorn. will you have some time on saturday morning to pair?

Seth

you might consider subscribing to the kde tag

smartboyhw

3:35 AM

I like the kde tag

Seth

@jrg About time for a new tag purge list?

smartboyhw

Hmm I should create a kde-packaging tag one day

user130156

Why do some people make fun of my questions and not even answer them properly they just get all techno babble on me and make me look stupid, some people are jerks on here

Seth

I'm getting to the point of starting one...

user130156

not in this room but on my profile questions

Seth

3:37 AM

@user130156 Well, this is planet Earth. People will be people. Can't always fix that :/

Journeyman Geek

@user130156: well, in the case of the one on installing ubuntu on a new windows 8 system...

jrg

@Seth if you want to start work, then go right ahead.

Journeyman Geek

You DO know you can turn off secure boot right?

and that EFF and others are throwing together shim bootloaders so you can run linux without doing so

Seth

@jrg If I retag all the questions, that won't kill the tag because the question is still around right?

jrg

@Seth it'll kill the tag, if there are no questions tagged with tag, then it won't exist.

Seth

3:38 AM

Okay awesome.

rolls up sleeves

user130156

ya the windows 8 thing

thanks journyman

Journeyman Geek

I'm running a self built windows 8 linux dualboot

let me comment if thats ok

user130156

sure

Journeyman Geek

I mean, I don't mean to be mean, but too many people get this wrong

user130156

i get ya :)

I always welcome more input that way I learn too :)

Journeyman Geek

3:41 AM

also,suggesting people pirate windows is horrible

user130156

Sorry not a fan of microsoft my bad

Journeyman Geek

Dosen't make piracy any better

or telling people to download stuff off dodgy p2p sites

(MS actually has legal downloads if you know where to look. I use it with my school supplied windows keys where needed)

user130156

ya they can be dodgy

jrg

i just don't use windows.

Seth

What's up with lo-menubar?

ah, Libre Office

user130156

3:43 AM

I just wanted people to see it and comment maybe a better way, my way is obviously too tedious and annoying but I just wanted someone to leave instructions in laymens terms is all

jrg

@Seth nice way to get lots of views on that link. ;)

Seth

yep, that's true.

Doing the OP a good turn.

Oh nice centos... rotfl

smartboyhw

rotfl:P

Uh hum @JourneymanGeek don't talk about pirating Windows

Seth

Think I can get 125 rep on SO with just edits?

jrg

ok, people keep asking me why test suites are awesome. i will just point them to how many applications i was able to patch today.

@Seth yes.

well, you get 100 by reputation bonus

and then you just earn another 25, right?

Seth

3:52 AM

yep.

I need to brush up on Reg Expressions... wonder if they have a tag for that...

user130156

Just voted for Journyman

Journeyman Geek

@smartboyhw: I'm saying precisely that

Seth

:O

this calls for MSO post.

Journeyman Geek

@user130156: might be clearer to make it a "question" and include the specific issues you have with defenestrating a windows box

right now it feels ranty

user130156

removing post

Seth

3:54 AM

none of them have tag wikis :O

jrg

regex!

well, none of them need tag wikis

Seth

A tag without a wiki :OOOO

jrg

none of them should exist.

user130156

okay post gone journyman

Seth

We don't want a regular-expression tag?

I am shocked!

user130156

3:56 AM

You were right I should of not posted that on there a little illegal now that I think about it.

Journeyman Geek

yup

I do believe that linux supports GUID partitions

user130156

thanks for the advice

Journeyman Geek

not too sure about the bootloader, there is one, but not sure if the standard installer supports it

user130156

does anyone know how to change my profile pic and name it's kind of ugly I'm new to this room I changed it on askubuntu but not on stack exchange

Seth

@jrg looking a little closer, they are all synonyms of regularexpression

jrg

4:01 AM

@Seth interesting.

Seth

Return to your lives citizens, the SO world is not going to end. (yet)

smartboyhw

@Seth lol

Seth

well, at least I can make someone laugh :/

smartboyhw

@Seth more lol

Seth

I need to spend more time with Roland.

smartboyhw

4:05 AM

@Seth Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr?

Seth

eh? I meant that in a good way.

I like Roland.

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Roland was the first person who befriended me when I came to the site.

smartboyhw

@Seth OOOOH so romantic:P

Seth

anyway, gotta run now!

smartboyhw

@RolandiXor you have really nice boyfriends :P

Seth

@smartboyhw It is really. </sarcasm >

smartboyhw

4:07 AM

@Seth yes it is

Journeyman Geek

4:22 AM

@user130156: I believe you can either use gravitar or upload one under 'edit profile'

theTuxRacer

Wow, back here after almost a year! Hello folks!

Journeyman Geek

@user130156: i.imgur.com/9CbMS3m.png?1

in best SE tradition

smartboyhw

6:05 AM

Any 2buntu.com mods?

George Edison

6:31 AM

Here.

(I'm also a 2buntu dev.)

smartboyhw

6:49 AM

@GeorgeEdison Approve post please

vasa1

On a lighter note, after reading Are upvotes not giving points right now? and @Eliah's answer, I'm wondering if the Unsung Hero badge could be redefined to allow more than just one in a lifetime ;)

George Edison

7:00 AM

@smartboyhw Sorry, away for a few minutes there.

I'll take a look.

smartboyhw

@GeorgeEdison OK

George Edison

@smartboyhw Approved and published!

smartboyhw

@GeorgeEdison Thx

Amith KK

7:59 AM

appears

Woo

Primary phase

I got 32 Uvotes :O

and 5 Dvotes

@user130156 ?

@user130156 ?

ooookaaay

Thought open source was about friendship apparently not

Manishearth

@user130156 ?

We just don't know what you're talking about

Amith KK

8:08 AM

@user130156 State your problem clearly

Manishearth

that's why we ?d you

Amith KK

link to the question pls.

Ask Ubuntu Meta

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Q: Is there a bug at the election page?

I went into the election page to vote for the 2013 Community Moderators election (Primary). But when I clicked into @green7's vote, it went strange: turned into 8-15 = -7. How could this be -1? It seems that for almost every candidate I voted DOWN on it would show a -1 instead of it's tota...

bug

Takkat

8:33 AM

All people in this chatroom are so awesome!

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Hi all

Amith KK

8:52 AM

@Takkat Hey

Takkat

Hi @AmithKK

jokerdino

9:17 AM

@Takkat so true. hehe

Amith KK

@jokerdino congratz man :P

?

For the 100 uvotes

Oh, 100? Nice!

9:33 AM

anyone here know what criteria 2buntu uses to vet guys who ask to join?

jokerdino

criteria? Not sure if we have one.

Amith KK

@mojo706 We don't have any :P

jokerdino

we'll go from contributor posts to author to editor to admin.

mojo706

Oh ok. But all news should be relevant to Ubuntu, Yes?

jokerdino

Yep, mainly.

mojo706

9:37 AM

Thanks for the replies most appreciated :)

Amith KK

@mojo706 I've activated your account :)

jokerdino

no problem.

mojo706

Thank you @AmithKK

Amith KK

@RolandTaylor @jrg @Gui NOTIFICATION: I've activated @mojo706's 2buntu account

jokerdino

@GeorgeEdison ^^

mojo706

9:54 AM

Quick question: When logged into Ubuntu with a guest account you cannot save anything nor create anything(for example a folder or a file?)

jokerdino

You can save things but it gets stored in /tmp.

They get flushed when you log out.

Amith KK

etherape

lol

mojo706

Damn I knew it had something to do with guest account. thanks @jokerdino

jokerdino

I think you can recover those files but I am not sure. I need to check.

mojo706

ok please check

jokerdino

10:02 AM

ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1558808

@mojo706 I think that one is still relevant ^^

mojo706

@jokerdino thanks, I'm on it

NullPointer

10:13 AM

sorry for foolish question using first time ubuntu ... how can i copy file in file system in ubuntu ?

jokerdino

Just copy as you normally do?

NullPointer

@jokerdino there is even not option to past ..

jokerdino

What file are you copying and from where to where?

NullPointer

@jokerdino sorry i want to past file in file system and want to install

jokerdino

i dont know what you mean by file system

Amith KK

10:16 AM

BBL

jokerdino

and what are you installing?

NullPointer

jokerdino

can't see images here

NullPointer

Gedit so that i have download it , it is a Gedit-3.4.6.tar.xz file

jokerdino

you need 3.4 version of gedit. so you downloaded a tar ball. :/

what you need is a PPA or at least a deb file and just install that one

NullPointer

10:20 AM

@jokerdino where can i get those file .. ?

jokerdino

what version of ubuntu are you using?

NullPointer

11.10

jokerdino

might be a little tricky.

have you asked a question with your specific use case?

NullPointer

noop just installed Ubuntu right now ... :(

jokerdino

heh, don't :( yet. we have hope

so, i need to know why you want 3.4 version of gedit.

and also, why didn't you not go with 12.04 instead of 11.10?

fossfreedom

10:23 AM

yeah 3.4 is default in 12.04

NullPointer

other version will be ok .. to i just want a editor ..

jokerdino

@NullPointer i am sure 11.10 already comes with gedit, version 3.2

NullPointer

@fossfreedom so you mean it has already gedit ... damn on me ..

i just want syntax highlighting

fossfreedom

..

mojo706

@NullPointer :) ^

jokerdino

10:26 AM

@NullPointer 11.10 has gedit and gedit has syntax highlighting.

if you can find that big button in the top left, click on it and search for gedit

NullPointer

omg what i all need to save file in correct extension ...

jokerdino

not sure i understand you

NullPointer

@jokerdino there is just text editor not gedit

jokerdino

yeah, that one is indeed gedit

NullPointer

thankyou ... guys you are awesome ..

jokerdino

10:30 AM

also, on your way out, research a little about "X and Y problem". Will come handy in the future. :)

150

Q: What is the XY problem?

What is the XY problem? When asking questions, how do I recognize when I'm falling into it? How do I avoid it? Return to FAQ index

discussion faq asking-questions terminology

NullPointer

@jokerdino nooooooooooooooo :D

jokerdino

:P

NullPointer

and now i know how other feel when i reply that comment with that post ...

jokerdino

heh, I wasn't attempting to hurt your feelings.

when you are new, you are bound to make mistakes. Consider it your learning curve.

NullPointer

@jokerdino it did not hurt ... i feel awesome ...

jokerdino

10:35 AM

;-)

mojo706

11:00 AM

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Easy_Hacks
^^ taking to long to load even the Mozilla wiki page is taking too much time to load :(. Is there something wrong with Wiki or it my connection. Try connecting to it and let me know.

NullPointer

11:17 AM

cya ... bye

mojo706

later @NullPointer

mojo706

11:58 AM

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Easy_Hacks_by_required_Skill
^ Currently on this page wondering what to do?

Manishearth

@mojo706 what do you want to do?

pick a bug, and then fix it

qbi

Hey, can you have a look at those two questions. IMHO the OP is asking the same thing two times. What to do here?

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Q: network profiles in ubuntu 12.04

I use a wired connection at home and in college. But at home i set my ipV4 settings to automatic DHCP whereas in college I need to manually enter the ip address, subnet and gateway and i also need to change proxy settings. So whenever I go home, i need to change system settings to no proxy and ...

network-manager proxy lan automation ip-address

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Q: Setting proxy variables automatically for different Network Profiles

I have two network profiles for wired connections in the network manager: 1. Home_Lan--> automatic dhcp requires No Proxy 2. Hostel_Lan--> manual ip settings requires an automatic proxy url Now, I can see these profiles in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections folder. I checked this...

networking network-manager proxy system-settings

mojo706

@qbi he is asking the same question just different words

although in the first question he asks if the automation can be added to wireless networks

mojo706

12:39 PM

There is a huge learning curve when it comes to contributing to Open Source software. I am a volunteer in waiting because I do not know what to do.

Takkat

@mojo706 be patient. Coming here already was a giant leap to start contributing ;)

Issues will rise and fall - all of a sudden you will find one where it is up to you to contribute in solving it.

mojo706

@Takkat :). I have found an isssue I can contribute to on LibreOffice problem is I don't know how to do it

Takkat

Not all issues need coders, sometimes just sharing your idea will help others to help others to make Ubuntu better.

mojo706

ohh. So thats why the ask for comments. Hahaha I feel dumb. Thanks

Takkat

The problem most people have with open source is that it is the community and not the individual who makes the moves.

2

But only having a strong community will actually make it work.

mojo706

12:50 PM

True

AbrahamVanHelpsing

Another option is building something tiny that solves a problem.

Or just posting a work-around until something is properly fixed.

Or... the list just keeps going. I've done those two.

Takkat

A billion tiny bits make more than any genius could ever accomplish.

2

There are always people who can't believe why Linux is free of charge but the answer is so simple: it does not belong to anybody, so there is nobody who could sell it.

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