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4:01 PM
O.o
sound woks now
Sorta
 
... but Canonical needs to beware ... "What'll be interesting is how they navigate the patent minefield that is the mobile ecosystem today. The major players will surely try to use their arsenal of patents to squash any potential threat from Ubuntu. I also doubt Canonical have the money to be paying out massive licensing fees." ... techcrunch.com/2013/01/03/ubuntu-android-ios
 
The keynote dows not distort
 
everyone who is in technology is under a patent threat, the phone isn't really any different
 
mobile seems to be a nightmare - hope Mark knows what he's getting into.
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I'm sure he does. I don't think he just makes these decisions on a whim. Especially when you see that he's been grooming the Ubuntu UX for mobile over the past 3+ years
 
4:10 PM
canonical needs a firm alliance with someone big - lets hope the relationship with google works.
 
They should fuse android and ubuntu seamlessly
I'd vote for a Ubuntu-Samsung-Google Alliance
 
@iSeth I actually enjoyed reading that articles comments, for once people defending Ubuntu :P
 
well from the look of it its sort of "ubuntu for android" but on steroids
 
Humanity Nexus LOL
 
@fossfreedom from what I read it's a native phone OS based on the android kernel(?) but it's got no android underpinnings
 
4:18 PM
sends Marco a friend request :P
 
it's real ubuntu
 
@MarcoCeppi Ubuntu can clearly run on android
 
I'm amazed to see the massive use of QT5 - just when unity-2d was kicked into the wilderness.
Or are we about to see the demise of compiz :/
 
@MarcoCeppi - o_o - why am I not blue... ?
 
4:24 PM
@fossfreedom we voted you off the island
 
I've got a paddle - you cant get rid of me that easily.
 
@fossfreedom You have parented your account to area51
 
huh? how did that happen?
 
Aw, I was going to make him squirm a little more
 
@foss switch your chat profile to Ask ubuntu
 
4:26 PM
@fossfreedom you're blue again
 
Nooo
Make him red.
 
yippee!
 
Gah. This is discouraging. The author changed his question radically in the first few minutes - yielding no traces of the change. I provided an answer to a different question. (deleted for now)
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Q: Does Ubuntu 12.10 employ ephemeral swap encryption keys?

Frank HarrisWhen at installation the Encrypt Home Folder is checked, will the swap file get encrypted and if so, is the encryption based on ephemeral keys? A key being "ephemeral", does it mean it is redefined every time the OS boots up? Thanks, Frank

 
I switched off when reading "ephemeral".
 
Still black here.
 
4:29 PM
@fossfreedom Is that a pun?
 
@RolandiXor :)
 
You're not my moderator!
 
Ephemeral questions, ephemeral blue, ephemeral 2012... sighs
 
blues all around.
 
@jokerdino Red.
 
4:30 PM
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Q: Replace crunchbang distro with ubuntu

André EstevãoI have w7 and #! in dual boot. Can i overwrite crunchbang with ubuntu? So it would be ubuntu and w7 in dual boot?

 
@foss your attention span was ephemeral. Probably not a pun but good use of the word there :P
 
@fossfreedom What @jokerdino said
 
How does one get crunch running in a successful dual-boot without knowing how to do partitions?
 
@Takkat Ah, that one is orange.
 
@jokerdino my browser renders me red.
 
4:32 PM
@jokerdino ... me working ... chat is at 10% concentration.
 
Ah, you must be using IE6
@fossfreedom Go back to work then :)
 
that's what my boss just said :/
 
Hmm
I suppose that is not an euphemism. :P
 
<-- thought IE6 is all grey only
 
You must be thinking of IE5
 
4:34 PM
<-- has no brain specialized in thinking of IEs
All that is Microsoft is grey.
 
It's either grey or barf-coloured.
 
@FEichinger except the BSOD
 
I am bored.
Because I am lonely.
 
<-- unbores @RolandiXor
 
And I need work.
 
4:41 PM
@Takkat Win8 has a barf-coloured BSOD as well.
 
BarfcolouredScreenOfDeath
 
@FEichinger we all knwo the problem of that PC ;)
 
Hi everyone!. WE all should be thankful. We survived an apocalypse! yeiii!
 
Whut??? An apocalypse??? Where, when, who, why?
 
4:45 PM
Didn't you hear
 
I survived being human and attempting to end my life so an apocalypse is nothing.
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<-- has missed the first apokalypse in his whole life
 
I don't want to miss the next one.
 
Shouldn't have gone for a nap.
 
the 21 of december last year, a group of zombie protesters, guided by godzilla wanted to attack earth. But I kicked there butts
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4:46 PM
@jokerdino you won't.
 
@LuisAlvarado lol
 
:P
 
\o/ our hero!
 
@LuisAlvarado No jokes about Zombies. Zombies are real.
 
I convinced the galactic council that earth doesn't make a good golf course.
 
4:47 PM
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A: How do I modify the power options?

Mike ThompsonI'm feeling Minty. Why oh why oh why oh why Ubuntu?

 
:P
 
what happened there...
 
jrg
SHRUGGING
 
So anyway, everything got settled and me and a bunch of zombies went to a bar and had a couple of drinks. No harm done. Except godzilla, she got angry with her zombie lover. I ain't getting on that problem, too big of a girl for me.
 
4:49 PM
@iSeth Got two scripts running at a time again?
 
@iSeth humans have two shoulders (usually)
 
@FEichinger shrug
 
anybody want to help me with a very and i mean very weird problem I am having with an nvidia card and either 12.10 or 13.04
 
jrg
@LuisAlvarado heh. ;P
 
yep that's what happened... somehow
 
4:50 PM
long to explain if you have the time
 
@iSeth Yay! =D
I was right again!
 
lol
brb
 
Lies!
Scandal!
 
shrug
 
So here is the problem if anybody has had the same issue. I installed like a month or 2 ago Ubuntu 13.04, well updated from 12.10. Everything worked perfect. I mean like everything, even the proprietary nvidia drivers for a 560 ti I have. So time passes by and about lets say 2 weeks ago, hell breaks loose.
 
4:55 PM
13.04
 
After an update and rebooting I can't login. So after trying out basically all the ways of fixing a "Unity/Compiz/Lightdm not working with nvidia card after upgrade" I removed the nvidia driver and the xorg.conf created by it and could now log in back to the desktop. Of course the performance is not the same.
 
Runs fine here.
 
So I went back to 12.10, formatted the whole system and installed 12.10
 
ofcourse i use no driver.
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In this scenario am talking about like yesterday when I formatted to 12.10, updated the system up to yesterday BUT without installing any proprietary drivers
Just to test it out, rebooted, login YES, using everything in the desktop YES
installing nvidia drivers and rebooting "CHAOS TIME!"
 
4:57 PM
The drivers are quite obviously the reason.
Screw the drivers. Noone needs drivers.
 
basically it froze after trying to login to the desktop. So what I did was go to recovery mode, by the way, holding the SHIFT key to make the GRUB menu appear does not always work, specially on fast system, I had to hold the SHIFT key, tap like crazy on ESC key, kick a chair, spit on my ex picture, say a prayer and THEN and only then I had a 30% chance the GRUB menu would appear.
But after going to recovery mode (And changing the option about read only to read/write) and started testing it the system with startx. So I ran startx and there you go, got a "nvidia module not found" thingy. To fix that I installed the header files for the current and general kernel version, well you know since most nvidia questions related to that point to installing that first. After that, there was no module problems, but still did not load. It just went to a black screen
Even the /var/log/Xorg.0.log tells me that when loading, everything is OK but still the system simply freezes when loading
Like @FEichinger says, yeah the drivers are the problem but they worked perfectly, same version 2 weeks ago for at least a month and half.
I even try testintg the X-Swat ppa and xorg edgers
or doing it the normal way without installing any ppa
@jokerdino are you running 13.04 with nvidia?
 
@LuisAlvarado nope. using intel.
 
a ok, yeah same here
from the motherboard
 
BBT
Good Night
 
take care @AmithKK
what out for zombies
and if you see godzilla tell here i love her
 
5:07 PM
Scandal!
 
^^
what!. I like big chunky green cold hearted women.
 
I like big, deadly, nuclear, missiles.
Wait,
O_o
 
jrg
like big things that make everyone burn together?
 
whistles
 
pff lol
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Q: NVIDIA error "fallen off the bus"

yurividali have been having a Serious Issue with my LG notebook and its Nvidia Geforce 310M GPU. It usualy (99% of the time) happens when i leave the computer idle for a while, but it has also happened sometimes while i was using the PC. Suddenly, (usualy when computer is idle) the screen goes black, and ...

Am actually imagining that, Ati kicking Nvidia off the bus
 
5:11 PM
@jrg I really do like them
Unfortunately no one else does :(
 
A good question would be, how fast was the bus going (troll)
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@RolandiXor We'll let you hug one.
 
^^ +1
 
@FEichinger I know a number of people who need to hug one...
 
O_O
 
5:15 PM
Hug what? A tree?
 
A nuke.
 
@RolandiXor Everyone does. Everyone.
 
well after a couple of minutes, I think I will hug a tree instead.
 
hug away
oh wait...
 
OMG that picture looks the same as my backyard
oh wait too much info
 
5:17 PM
@LuisAlvarado ^^
@LuisAlvarado Lol
 
I will hug that instead.
AFTER it hits someone.
 
shrug
 
Lies!
 
@iSeth "_shrug_ ", not "_shrug _" :P
 
i thought we were talking about hugs
 
5:19 PM
@RolandiXor Y U NO USE UNNECESSARY BOLD!
 
Scandal!
 
@FEichinger I know, I know.
 
@LuisAlvarado ...
You can get people in trouble.
delete it.
I'm not kidding either.
 
^^ that.
 
Some people have sensitive families.
 
5:20 PM
read the caps?
 
@FEichinger can you read this
 
Try explaining "oh I have a girl with big lalala on my screen and it's completely harmless"
 
+1
 
@iSeth I can.
 
I thought so. can we get a translation so we know what to do with it?
 
5:21 PM
ok was going to post what the caption said on the picture and google removed the image
 
@iSeth On it already.
 
@iSeth wrong settings in google translate - I guess.
 
anywaye HUGS = Huge Uber Gigantic Stacks
 
jrg
who wait wat
 
@FEichinger It's: "Me too". Not an answer anyway.
 
5:24 PM
@Takkat Ahyup.
 
WEll look it here:

cyrex@cyrex:~$ cat /var/log/syslog|grep NVIDIA
Jan 3 01:17:23 cyrex kernel: [ 1742.998168] nvidia: module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel.
Jan 3 01:17:23 cyrex kernel: [ 1743.003830] NVRM: The NVIDIA probe routine was not called for 1 device(s).
Jan 3 01:17:23 cyrex kernel: [ 1743.003832] NVRM: the NVIDIA device(s).
Jan 3 01:17:23 cyrex kernel: [ 1743.003834] NVRM: driver(s)), then try loading the NVIDIA kernel module
Jan 3 01:17:23 cyrex kernel: [ 1743.003835] NVRM: No NVIDIA graphics adapter probed!
that might be the reason the Nvidia card kills everything
 
@FEichinger who cares if its uncalled for.
 
@Takkat Actually, it isn't even "me too!".
 
It's called humour for a reason.
 
It's an entirely different question.
 
5:28 PM
@FEichinger its clutter the most-
 
Bleh.
 
@RolandiXor Reads as quite hostile towards a new user who ... quite obviously doesn't know his way around here yet. ;)
 
@LuisAlvarado Tainted kernels seems not what we want.
 
@Takkat Yeah, but I remember that tainted will appear if it works or not, this is just the kernel saying" DUDE WHAT THE HELL, THATS A PROPRIETARY DRIVER!!"
@RolandiXor Hey, don't be like that, give me a 2 or 3 at least
I'll pay with big hugs
 
5:31 PM
It was such a nice, clean and innocent kernel before, now its proprietarily non-working.
 
@LuisAlvarado argh I misread it D:
 
at least for what I can see is happening to fedora, gentoo, arch and ubuntu
 
sorry
not one of my best days
 
sorry had to go AFK
Thanks @Takkat and @FEichinger
 
@RolandiXor I know, but you should give me at least one.. am I not your friend, have I not being there from the beginning... of the chat. Give me a damn for old time sake
 
5:35 PM
'twas good to read "Cyrex" again after such a long time... ;)
 
@FEichinger want to remove your comment since Roland's is gone? makes it look weird.
 
@LuisAlvarado xD
dammit
 
@iSeth Done.
 
@RolandiXor Thanks but now I don't give a damn
LOL!
yeah well bad joke
am not that verse as @jokerdino ^^
 
OK really guys, this is getting kinda... well... anyway.
 
5:38 PM
changing topics then
 
thank you :)
 
Got a question, what do you guys typically eat on december, specially december 31
I mean is there any special food prepared for that occassion
 
not here anyway, but I think others do it.
 
For example, We eat here Hallacas http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hallaca
ham filled bread: http://i1.trekearth.com/photos/32025/pan_de_jamon__191203mod.jpg

and pernil http://laylita.com/recetas/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/pernil%202.JPG
and of course some types of salad only made for this season
and Wine
like a swimming pool of wine
 
@LuisAlvarado I don't give the damns, I take them.
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5:43 PM
@RolandiXor HAHAHHAHAHHA
Very well said sir:
So to change the subject, I was walking down the street when I see my neighbor on a...

http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/6229752_700b_v1.jpg
 
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Q: Noises while playing sound-youtube or any music

yinonWhen i'm playing any audio (youtube, music...) there some noises annoying me. How to solve this? Thanks!

epic example of vague question
 
Not photoshopped!
 
lol
 
@iSeth hum that is exactly the problem I was having with a laptop, it turned out to be that the power cord was not connected to a grounded socket
 
interesting
still to vague.
 
5:48 PM
well thats sucked, I can't close for a duplicate
anyway here is the link askubuntu.com/questions/64184/…
 
@LuisAlvarado nice answer. the old question is abandoned though, so it will probably get closed as TL soon.
 
no harm in closing it as duplicate, saves askubuntu 1 question and maybe somebodies time when looking for that problem
 
agreed.
 
Well guys, a hug to all, a damn to @RolandiXor ^^. Need to try to fix the nvidia problem. Have a great day
 
@LuisAlvarado see ya later
 
5:56 PM
back
@LuisAlvarado thanks :D
 
6:09 PM
OK After checking xserver out more that I should I am having the same issues as this user
Anyway how do I do "rc-update add acpid default" in ubuntu
the problem is that the acpid service and X are fighting over a socket, is a timing issue. acpid should go first, followed by X.
 
you should probably ask a question on the site
 
True, I think I got to the point where I can make the question with enough information. Yesterday I wanted to but there was way too much info that I have not checked.
 
yeah, looks good to me :)
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Q: neither mobile broadband nor wireless connects on ubuntu whereas it does in windows 7 running parallely

user118499I tried every possible solution to solve this but still nothing works on ubuntu 12.04. I read almost all the posts available but couldn't get my internet connection established. please help

who upvoted that??
ah well.
We need a canonical Windows 8 UEFI question/answer
 
6:34 PM
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Q: Unity does not appear after installing proprietary Nvidia drivers

Luis AlvaradoBefore starting I should mention that even though the title is similar to the following questions, is not the same problem and I have already tested the answers of this questions with no solution in hand: Unity doesn't appear after installing Nvidia drivers Unity Not loading after installin...

 
+1
 
I'm using enlightenment, because you are all noobs.
 
O_o
 
Told ya.
 
IMHO you just want to show off, get confused, waste time and get nothing done :P
that's called enlightenment.
 
6:48 PM
Oh yeah?
 
IMO yeah. screenshot?
 
It's the art of customization.
 
shrug I use KDE if I want customization. I don't want my desktop to look like that
 
Lies!
 
@iSeth theButtons.innerHTML = theButtons.innerHTML + "&nbsp;";
 
6:52 PM
anyway, time to purge cinnamon
@FEichinger I just added a space at the end of _ shrug _
 
@iSeth Great! =D
 
I don't think it is possible to shrug and send
i've been looking at the jQuery
makes my eyes bleed
 
It does.
 
lol
 
@iSeth wait?
Am I reading right?
Has my son finally seen the light?
 
6:54 PM
two gigantic lines with functions like fb() and md()
 
@iSeth Basically, you'd have to trigger sayit-button's event.
Shouldn't be too hard.
 
Have I rightly spent my time, praying and crying all night?
 
@FEichinger say it button has a anonymous function :(
 
Will things finally be totally alright?
 
shrug
 
6:55 PM
Is this good news I finally see in my sight?!
@iSeth Scandal!
 
@RolandiXor what light?
 
@iSeth the.
 
OK, killed cinnamon... its time for some PLASMA!
 
:D
sweet
BTW, you should see my enlightenment desktop now :)
 
KDE is awesome... once you kill its default UI
 
6:57 PM
 
oh boy.
 
@iSeth So? You can trigger the onClick event with element.click(), or at least you should be able to.
Cause that's HTML5 standard.
 
@FEichinger worth a try
 
Works for me in fiddle at least.
 
well I'll try
 
7:04 PM
Hi!
 
phaser on? all defense systems go? roger
ok ready for your 'Hi' now.
@RolandiXor how's the book coming?
 
@iSeth great :D
 
awesome :D
 
I'm gonna post some questions in the reg room
 
sorry, I'm out of flags. got five votes though
 
7:15 PM
cool
one needs a vote
 
I'm going to make a 'done' button
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Made the mistake of watching "Downton Abbey", no work may ever be accomplished again.
 
lol
 
jrg
@Flabricorn 6 saturday?
 
@jrg Sorry, I have meant to email you, there is in face a complication. Would seven o' clock be appropriate for yourself?
 
jrg
7:21 PM
@Flabricorn sure.
 
@jrg Also, have you seen this?
 
Hi @jrg.
 
jrg
@Flabricorn yeah
 
@Flabricorn BTW you know what happens to minions that don't get any work done right?
 
@iSeth Oh my yes, but luckily netflix only has a single season.
 
7:24 PM
OK, good ;)
its a dangerous world ours...
 
Upuntu :D
 
At least it's phonetically close.
 
lol
@FEichinger I can't find any doc on element.click(), do I just make sayit and object and call sayit.click()?
 
@iSeth Wait a sec, I'm trying to do it for the US right now. :P
 
uh, OK.
 
7:35 PM
See shrug test.
 
done
 
ruby gem :)
 
@RolandiXor LOL
 
P.S. why do ruby apps and gems have such... WEIRD names!
 
7:37 PM
ROTFL
 
Snorby...
 
seriously though, its abandoned
 
Snorbed it.
 
lol
 
jrg
wasn't aware snorby was a rubygem
 
7:43 PM
shouldn't be :P (lol jk)
 
It's quite snorbish.
 
jrg
oh, it's a rails app. don't think i've ever used it.
 
shrug
 
shrug
shrug shrug shrug
 
updated shrug button to version 1.0
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8:06 PM
shrug
 
jrg
8:18 PM
@Flabricorn so 7 at the coffee shop?
SHRAUGH BUTTON!
 
shrug
 
gets ready to start banning shrug abuse
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May I introduce you to the following room

 Sandbox

Where you can play with regular chat features (except flagging...
 
shrug (and reluctant to install the shrug button)
 
8:48 PM
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Q: 'closed as exact duplicate by...' is confusing - where is the answer?

Paradiesstaub Possible Duplicate: Where is the link to the original question when a question is closed as a duplicate? I find the 'closed as exact duplicate by...' message confusing. Instead of telling me (the user) that question XYZ is a duplicated and listening the names of the people that marked ...

 
@AskUbuntuMeta Epic. A question about exact duplicates being closed for exact duplicate.
 
that's like the third time that's happened
 
one day
 
not another one :/
lets close it as a duplicate!
wait, that doesn't look new...
 
9:19 PM
@Mochan Goddard passed you!
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Q: Canonical needs to stop amateurism

guevara2012First, the repository of the toolkit does not have packages for Ubuntu 12.04, only to 12.10. Install the debs for 12:10 in 12:04 should not happen. Second, the repository of Ubuntu 12.04 have oldest QT Creator version, the newest is 2.6.1 and it still not compatible in "design mode" with Qt Quic...

 
9:35 PM

 Ubuntu Regulators

Report evil (or more likely, dupe) questions here for closure....
 
9:50 PM
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Q: Is there a button, indicator, or trivial graphical app to change the default sound output source?

Brian Ballsun-StantonIs there a way, program, key combination, or script to quickly switch (with the press of a button) between usb headphone sound output and external speakers? Optimally, this can be pressed at any time, and does not require navigating through sound settings.

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Q: Search all my Thunderbird address books?

AmandaI have a bunch of different Thunderbird address books set up, and I'd like an interface (I'll take something command line) that lets me search them all. Currently, if I see that something is prompting me to use an old addy in my auto complete, I have to open my contacts and search each address bo...

 

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