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7:09 AM
@MarcoCeppi: Is it safe to just use $TITLE after the line TITLE='config-get title'?
 
Well, yes and no
I would do a test `if [ ! -z "$TITLE" ]; then [..do stuff..]; fi
config-changed gets executed once when the charm is installed, then each time juju set is run
 
Well $TITLE needs a value assigned to it regardless.
How can I be sure it has a value?
 
You can't! :D
It'll always be the default though
at a minimum
 
Oh, I get it.
But it could be an empty string?
 
Could, unless you test for it
Charms are supposed to be idempotent
 
7:13 AM
So it's okay if the PHP app throws errors if an empty value is assigned?
 
Sure, it just wont be ready to use until it actually gets a value
 
Got it... and the defaults will make sure it runs out of the box.
 
Just like how wordpress charm will sit on the server, waiting until you hook it up to the MySQL charm
They should provide as much as possible.
It may not always guarantee a setup - especially if it's waiting on another charm service
 
7:35 AM
@MarcoCeppi: Well, I've made good progress tonight, but it's getting late. Thanks for helping me out.
 
8:23 AM
Why does Ask Ubuntu matter to my LoCo, and how should we use it? http://meta.askubuntu.com/questions/2074/why-does-ask-ubuntu-matter-to-my-loco-and-how-should-we-use-it
 
 
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10:46 AM
Hello all
How can i fined the histtory of On/Off on my comp?
 
11:06 AM
morning
 
Morning @Alvar
 
:)
@AmithKK do you mean your current run time?
just open htop
 
no, previous runtime
 
previous? I mean the current...
you can see the uptime in htop
 
no, i want the previous
 
11:09 AM
the last uptime?
 
Yes
 
@AmithKK that isn't saved anywhere. however, you can get some more information
open up palimpsest, the "Disk Utility", select your hard drive and click "SMART Data"
 
you could make a program that saves it..
 
this'll show you how often your computer has been rebooted and how long it's been running in total (power cycle count and power-on hours)
 
not that anyone would really care, it's just the uptime...
 
11:12 AM
yikes, I'm at 317.4 days.
2
 
@StefanoPalazzo haha, I'm at 2 hours
 
laptop :P
 
Mine is 142.2 days
but thats not exactly what i need
 
then what is?
 
11:14 AM
How many hours my computer was on on last boot
 
@StefanoPalazzo are you using a server right now and is talking via links or elinks?
 
@Alvar nope that's my laptop
 
@AmithKK that's not stored anywhere so you can't...
:2475027 yayaya bug 1
 
it's not 317 consecutive days, but total uptime since I installed that SSD
 
@StefanoPalazzo åååååååååååååååh-
 
11:15 AM
Microsoft has a majority market share in the new desktop PC marketplace. This is a bug, which Ubuntu is designed to fix. Non-free software is holding back innovation in the IT industry, restricting access to IT to a small part of the world's population and limiting the ability of software developers to reach their full potential, globally. This bug is widely evident in the PC industry. Steps to repeat: 1. Visit a local PC store. What happens: 2. Observe that a majority of PCs for sale have non-free software pre-installed. 3. Observe very few PCs with Ubuntu and free software pre-installed. What should happen: 1. A majority of the PCs for sale should include only free software like Ubuntu. 2. Ubuntu should be marketed in a way such that its amazing features and benefits would be apparent and known by all. 3. The system shall become more and more user friendly as time passes.
Ubuntu
Critical / In Progress
 
@StefanoPalazzo I thought you ment time since last boot cheat!
 
that'd be pretty amazing :)
I can check my server
 12:15:55 up 129 days, 20:36,  1 user,  load average: 0.00, 0.02, 0.05
It's never been rebooted since I got it.
 
ORLY? Lets DDoS Attack it!
 
I've already done that :)
 
my computer got cold feet and froze up.
@StefanoPalazzo and a bit sad :P
since it's a laptop
 
11:18 AM
yeah :D
I'm just glad it still works
 
@AmithKK yaya it's bug 1 it will never get solved...
@StefanoPalazzo my laptop freezes like once a boot it's really annoying :(
 
yeah :(
is there a way to take a bakup of your system files and ignore stuff like my music library and films (it's like 80 gb I don't want to double store)??
if there isn't a question about it I will create one ...
 
why do you want to back up system files?
 
just don't want to create another double...
@StefanoPalazzo like operaiting system settings and all that
 
11:22 AM
yeah, why do you want to back those up?
 
I need to bakup my system before I try to upgrade to 11.10
@StefanoPalazzo I mean I wan to bakup my system but I don't want to bakup my music and videos
 
I just share all my important directories in ubuntu one
but that takes a week to synchronise
the least annoying option is to just drag everything onto a usb hard disk
 
@StefanoPalazzo I have a 1TB hard drive I want to bakup most stuff in
how to?
is there a question about this?
 
just open your home directory and drag everything onto the disk?
 
@StefanoPalazzo will that work?
 
11:25 AM
I think we might be misunderstanding each other here
 
so if I want to restore this 11.04 how will I then do that?
 
I'm suggesting you just simply copy all the files you need
 
@StefanoPalazzo ehm
@StefanoPalazzo how do I know what I need
 
well, everything in your home directory except Music/ and Videos/, and maybe have a quick look at all the hidden directories as well
also export your firefox password database, I always forget that (there should be something similar in chrome)
 
@StefanoPalazzo I don't use firefox I'm not that slow...
 
11:26 AM
If the upgrade goes wrong,
your system files won't help you much. will they?
 
@StefanoPalazzo well I have my chrome synked so I don't have to do that...
 
So I always prepare to do a complete re-install
meaning I back up all my user-data
 
@StefanoPalazzo with system files I mean the files that are necessary for my system to work not my music or videos.
@StefanoPalazzo that's really what I want to do...
making a question about it.
 
yeah, I don't understand why you want those. What are you going to do with them if the upgrade goes wrong?
replacing your system configuration files generally isn't a good idea
it's easier to just download your themes, change your settings and so on, on a fresh install. blindly replacing important config files will break things
 
Great answer: Why isn't Firefox 8.0 available as an update in the Update Manager? http://askubuntu.com/questions/79186/why-isnt-firefox-8-0-available-as-an-update-in-the-update-manager/79204#79204 #firefox
 
11:30 AM
@StefanoPalazzo you are not geting what I want to do...
 
I think that might be accurate :)
 
I JUST want to copy my system onto a disk so I can restore it later but I want to leave out my music and videos.
that's it.
with system I mean EVERYTHING.
 
right
you also need to think about how to restore your backup
which, if you back up everything, will be a bit difficult
 
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Q: how to make a bakup of my system?

AlvarI want to backup my system and all the files that are necessary for my system to work (note not my music or my videos). I have an external hard drive at 1TB so space isn't a problem. I want to backup my system (so I restore it later) I want to leave out my music and videos I want to be able to ...

@StefanoPalazzo ok?
 
@Alvar think about it: let's say you make an image of your hard disk that excludes your music and videos
and the upgrade breaks everything. what are you going to do then?
 
11:34 AM
I don't know what I need to do just that I like how my system is now, but I want to try other versions of Ubuntu. and I need to know I can make a safe return.
@StefanoPalazzo no idea
 
@StefanoPalazzo can I even restore settings like on a mac or windows?
I have never done this...
 
that's why I suggest it'll be easier to do a fresh install and just use this very advanced backup method:
there's no "global restore" or anything like that. the best you can do is "ghost" your disk
which would include your music and videos, unless you delete them before you make the image
 
ok
make it into an answer! ;)
 
unless I'm wrong of course
 
11:36 AM
@StefanoPalazzo isn't that what the site is for?
@StefanoPalazzo then we can rethink it later..
 
Let's see. I don't want to post "it can't be done" right away
maybe someone knows a way I don't
 
ok..
w8 I hink I want to copy everything, that's easier...
and I didn't have a copy of my music anyway xD
 
if you back up all your personal files, everything you would want if your laptop was stolen, say, then you can just re-install everything if the upgrade goes wrong
and you don't need to think or worry about your data
you can't put a price on peace of mind ;)
 
@StefanoPalazzo whoot?!
 
of course you're going to miss some things
 
11:40 AM
I want to copy everything so I can restore it later, it should be easier :P
@StefanoPalazzo what? :P
sorry I have to study...
 
especially hidden files, or stuff that you put in /opt or whatever. I always forget to back up something
 
aha...
but can I bakup my /home?
 
you can't restore that
 
like EVERYTHING
@StefanoPalazzo doh
 
if you just replace everything with your old /home, it'll break things I'm 90% sure
 
11:42 AM
hahaha 90% xD :P
 
well I've never had the courage to try it :)
but you don't want to be the first one to find out, eh? :)
 
@StefanoPalazzo not really, since this my ONLY computer which I have to both rely on and try new distros! ;)
 
@StefanoPalazzo Do it on a frikin pm :P
 
indeed
lots of configuration is in /usr/ and /etc as well,
so you would just make your system inconsistent
 
aha..
but there should be some program that could make this happen..
 
11:45 AM
well there is clonezilla
 
or is ubuntu the only system that can't be backup up? that would be sad...
 
you could just delete your music before you use clonezilla to make an image
 
@StefanoPalazzo aah...
@StefanoPalazzo I thought so too..
 
for what it's worth, I don't think making an image is worth the effort
 
DOH
 
11:47 AM
installing ubuntu takes 15 minutes, and getting all of the settings the way you want them takes another 15 minutes
 
will there ever be an answer to my problem?
@StefanoPalazzo no another week or two
 
isn't this the same on every operating system?
 
@StefanoPalazzo no
:D
 
so, how would you do it in windows or mac os?
 
windows the answer is to install Ubuntu. done
mac just restore it via time machine...
you hit the restore button.
done
 
11:50 AM
well, the ubuntu equivalent of time machine would be déjà dup
 
xD
great.
:(
 
as far as I know, they do pretty much the same thing. I wonder whether time machine would back up your apache config
 
...
 
i.e., I would've thought time machine only backs up your files
 
huh..
didn't know that...
then can it be done?
 
11:54 AM
of course it can be done
 
it doesn't sound like it...
 
but it's probably going to be extremely difficult, and prone to error
 
then give me an answer! ;)
@StefanoPalazzo then it can't be done.
if it can be done it must be done with success :P
 
absolutely
 
...
 
11:55 AM
that's my suspicion anyway, I'm looking forward to a good answer on your question as well
remastersys looks interesting
I think that might be it
 
12:20 PM
LOL
 
12:36 PM
O.o I just sent two gtalk messages to @StefanoPalazzo by accident
 
gangsta ;)
 
morning :)
 
Hello @OctavianDamiean
 
12:45 PM
@MarcoCeppi Do you think it would be off-topic to ask a question on SO what the Chuck-image montages are about?
Obviously I meant AU ... not SO.
 
1:43 PM
anyone know of a graphical configuration tool for grub?
there is a qt utility but...
anything for gnome?
kde-config-grub2
 
hmmm...
I'm getting not that great quality answers...
 
What happened to the "Encrypt"/"Decrypt" context menu items in Nautilus :/
 
I need some jorge castro spirit editing in my question...
@badp more specific?
 
You used to be able to right click on a file and pick 'encrypt...' or 'decrypt...'
 
ooh.. that's an extension,..
 
1:57 PM
eh, and what happened to it?
 
in 11.10?
im on 11.04.. still going strong :P
 
yeah. How can I get it back
 
clarification, you mean this function?
 
yes
 
@badp I think you need additional software like truecrypt ...
 
2:01 PM
...no, I'm not encrypting drives
 
then I'm sorry... I don't really know why it's not there...
do you have a key to sign it with?
 
Hi all!
@badp you need a key to do that I believe.
 
@RolandTaylor I should have one.
Seahorse reports I do.
 
Let me double check that I still have it myself :P
Hmm it was removed!
I didn't notice :O
 
gah
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Q: How do you encrypt and decrypt files using your keychain in Ubuntu?

badpRemember this little guy over here? He's no longer with us in Ubuntu 11.10. Now, a friend's sent me an encrypted file using a public key I think I have the key fore in my keychain. How can I decrypt it?

:|
 
2:17 PM
0
A: What version of Compiz will be installed in Maverick Meerkat?

Roland TaylorJason, knowing the real reason you want to do this, from your previous questions, let me first give you a warning before answering. Compiz 0.8.x is not maintained any more. As I have said over and over and over... Compiz-fusion is dead, and the project is now called Compiz. That said, if you ins...

DO NOT DOWN VOTE THAT
If you don't agree, don't vote.
I've been answering this guy's questions for a couple weeks or so... and I know where he's going with this.
 
2:36 PM
0
Q: One Huge "share" folder

D. SmithIs there (or should there even be) a large completely public folder that ALL Ubuntu One users could dump files into to let people have access to their ideas?

Nice try... close this please :)
 
Great answer: How do I teach bash in Ubuntu some curse words? http://askubuntu.com/questions/73262/how-do-i-teach-bash-in-ubuntu-some-curse-words/73282#73282 #bash
 
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Q: Why does Ubuntu recommend download the 32-bit version?

cwdWhy does Ubuntu recommend download the 32-bit version? On their 32bit_and_64bit Page they even say Unless you have specific reasons to choose 32-bit, we recommend 64-bit to utilise the full capacity of your hardware. Do why does their download page show the 32-bit version as "recommended" ?

 
@UbuntuQuestionsonUL that's easy to understand...
 
@OctavianDamiean Probably not, ask and find out. Tag it [community]
 
2:54 PM
@MarcoCeppi Wow... you have fast internet!
And mine... well
O.o I got a C+
Somebody please do a HTTP GET to my computer
 
Boring...
requires too many includes and defines...
by the time you finish typing all those you'd fall asleep...
 
@AmithKK This is for Apache 1.3 - no one really uses that anymore
 
wow man... are we getting influx of low "IQ" users recently?
gosh
"I've told you something 3 times now"
"Okay I shall proceed to ignore you a 4th time!"
5th time
 
@RolandTaylor Does IQ mean "Intelligent Questions" ?
 
"Oh I think I shall do what you suggested now" after the 10th time before told so
@AmithKK that too :)
I don't believe in the IQ rating as being realistic... people are either Intels or PowerPCs, but either way they are of the same intelligence :).
The problem is some people have a slower clock speed... and others support a more limited instruction set.
 
3:23 PM
@RolandTaylor No ❤ for ARM?
 
let me rephrase that :)
either intel's architecture (forgot the correct term off hand for some reason) or RISC
 
@RolandTaylor Wait, Doesen't AVR mean Advanced RISC architecture.... Does that mean I have that instruction on my ATmel powered arduino?
 
I'm not sure... but it is a RISC processor so maybe
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Q: I want the old desktop, how?

Itay MoavI just installed 11.10. Looks nice, but, the application bar is on the left now. That is bad, almost 100% of the applications I use has some important button on the left side (like the X). How do I go back to the old way it was, where the bar was on the bottom, and did not disappear onMouseout.

Do we have a question on how to disable the autohide feature of the launcher?
 
3:28 PM
Somebody queried my server for /scrape
 
This question is essentially a dupe because he does like Unity..
k - writing time :)
after... G+
 
3:48 PM
Awesome Ninja Cat!
 
4:17 PM
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Q: What's the matter with all those Chuck montages?

Octavian DamieanPlanet Ubuntu is full of hilarious Chuck montages. Here two examples: Why is that? How did Chuck become an Ubuntu meme?

2
There we go. :D
 
4:33 PM
Ah.. looks like its overheat time
 
5:01 PM
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Q: Is there a keyboard shortcut to toggle Tree view / Places View?

zinzolinI find both the Tree view and the Places view useful. Changing from one view to the other is not fast because one have to go into the appearance menu. It's even slower with Oneiric because this menu can now be far away. (Before Unity, I always had the tree view on and I used my bookmarks directly...

That is possible right?
 
Hello, I got this notification and I don't know what to do with it:
 
@Gigili Just click "check for updates" and install any updates if necessary.
 
I did, but it's still there
 
go to terminal and enter sudo apt-get update
hi @GeorgeEdison
 
Thank you, should I also uncheck "show notifications"?
 
5:08 PM
@jokerdino Hello.
 
If you don't like them appearing, you may choose to uncheck it.
I would leave it as it is because it notifies me that the package data is outdated.
 
Aha, thank you.
 
DoR
@MarcoCeppi Is your minecraft server still running?
 
@DoR my private one yes, the charm one I took down so I can test and make other charms :)
 
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A: Is there a keyboard shortcut to toggle Tree view / Places View?

jokerdinoIf you are using Ubuntu-3D, then you can use bind keyboard keys to terminal commands using CompizConfig Settings Manager. Download and install CCSM if you don't have it already. Click on "Commands". The terminal commands to switch between "tree" and "places" are as follows: gsettings set o...

Can someone verify and check my answer? :)
I don't want to be vilified..
 
5:19 PM
Can you answer this? How to make NFS mounts available while offline? http://askubuntu.com/questions/80570/how-to-make-nfs-mounts-available-while-offline #sync
 
DoR
@jokerdino It looks good to me, but I think it would be better to set the shortcuts in the Keyboard utility instead of CompizConfig Settings Manager, since it is installed by default and will work even when not using compiz.
 
Time to give this charm a spin...
 
@DoR Thanks. I will take a look.
Yep, it works :)
Now do I add another answer or just add-in in the same answer?
 
DoR
@jokerdino Just edit your original answer.
 
Ok thanks.
 
5:39 PM
@Alvar Please take a look at the backup comments and see if you don't want to make a couple of edits. You won't mind me saying, they are just a little bit too shouty for my taste. :)
 
Hello Stefano.
 
@MarcoCeppi: Heeeeeelp! My charm doesn't start even though each command I run reports success.
 
Hi Octavian :)
 
I'm 6 months in the future now. :P
 
@GeorgeEdison You can check what's going on by running juju ssh <service>/<unit> so like juju ssh minecraft/0
then you can check the log at /var/lib/juju/units/<service>-<unit>/charm.log
@GeorgeEdison I'll branch and take a loook
 
5:45 PM
Ooooh, so it's ssh - I was using a different command.
My virtual machine is quite slow.
I'm guessing it needs more memory.
 
Logical conclusion.
What is the maximum limit of edits before a post becomes a community wiki?
 
It's different thresholds for different edit types
 
For an answer by its original poster?
 
@GeorgeEdison It looks like unzip isn't installed :)
2011-11-19 17:48:57 (29.0 MB/s) - `/tmp/thinkup.zip' saved [1324133/1324133]
2011-11-19 17:48:57,900: unit.hook.api@INFO: Extracting ThinkUp
2011-11-19 17:48:57,920: hook.output@ERROR: /var/lib/juju/units/thinkup-0/charm/hooks/install: line 13: unzip: command not found
 
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A: Is there a keyboard shortcut to toggle Tree view / Places View?

jokerdinoMethod specific to Compiz / Ubuntu-3D: If you are using Ubuntu-3D, then you can use bind keyboard keys to terminal commands using CompizConfig Settings Manager. Download and install CCSM if you don't have it already. Click on "Commands". The terminal commands to switch between "tree" and "...

Moderate the answer! Thank you very much awesome people!
 
5:59 PM
0
Q: Items cannot be installed or removed

Gyanendra Kumar GyaninstallArchives() failed: (Reading database ... (Reading database ... 5% (Reading database ... 10% (Reading database ... 15% (Reading database ... 20% (Reading database ... 25% (Reading database ... 30% (Reading database ... 35% (Reading database ... 40% (Reading database ... 45% (Reading databa...

Flagged.
 
you forgot the installation instructions @jokerdino
but I hooked it up
 
@JorgeCastro Hmm thank you. :) I am half sleepy here. I was wondering if I could add more stuff that are necessary to complete the answer.
@OctavianDamiean is that a question or a bug report?
 
I have no idea to be honest. it is a log file snippet.
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Q: What's the deal with all these Chuck montages?

Octavian DamieanPlanet Ubuntu is full of hilarious Chuck montages. Here two examples: Why is that? How did Chuck become an Ubuntu meme?

@JorgeCastro You can probably answer that. :)
 
LOL
 
yeah
 
6:08 PM
By the way this is not meant to be a collection of more hilarious Chuck montages it is a real question.
 
Hey guys
quick question
 
@MarcoCeppi: Aha! Thank you.
 
is it possible to use Ubuntu's Startup Disk Creator to create a live cd for another os like Fedora?
 
Probably not but there us UNetbootin.
 
It's alright lol, just wondering if there was any use for it besides making Ubuntu cds
thanks though
 
6:14 PM
0
Q: solved - Search has stopped working in the files lens

AlexanderIf I try to search in the files lens, nothing happens (all files still shown). The list of files is current, and the other lenses can all be searched. Edit: Dupe of Unity "Files & Folders" lens can't find anything Solution 1 works.

easy dupe folks
 
Interesting, got a down-vote without an explanation.
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A: Does apt-get clean harm your system?

Octavian DamieanFrom the manpage of apt-get. clean clears out the local repository of retrieved package files. It removes everything but the lock file from /var/cache/apt/archives/ and /var/cache/apt/archives/partial/. When APT is used as a dselect(1) method, clean is run automatically. Those who do ...

Is there something wrong with it?
 
Technically, there is no problem. Possibly because all three available answers says the same thing?
It still doesn't make sense to downvote another answer. I am guessing it is one of the other 2 people who answered earlier
 
@JorgeCastro If I wouldn't know that you are just a human being I'd totally say you're a bot.
I see a question, think Hey! Awesome, let's edit. and then refresh. edited by Jorge Castro x seconds ago.
Alright. I need some help to understand what he is asking.
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Q: Does not work recording from the microphone on the front panel, chipset Q67,H67 e H61

helton rodrigogentlemen, If the recording works properly on the panel should not work as well ass the front panel. My version is kubuntu 4.10, but I tested it on all others, would drive my audio problem? thoughtfully.

 
7:18 PM
0
Q: Is Firefox 8 available for Ubuntu 11.10?

Mediterran81Is Firefox 8 available for Ubuntu 11.10? DO I have to change the PPA or something to get Firefox 8 for Ubuntu 11.10? I still have Firefox 7 even though I updated (sudo aptitude update) Thanks for answering my silly question.

obvious duplicate
man, some day, we'll be able to close dupes without begging for other votes.
@OctavianDamiean out of all the answers you're the only one who quoted the man page
 
Which is a good thing in my opinion. :D
 
7:33 PM
Hi
@OctavianDamiean don't you think downvotes should require at least a reason?
I mean, even if they remain anon... they should require the person to leave a reason in a comment (no need to leave the person's name to do that).
 
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Q: Moving from Ubuntu 32bit: Mint 64bit or Mint 32bit?

dr Hannibal LecterI have decided to try out Linux Mint instead of the horrible Ubuntu Unity experince. I have a separate partition for my /home folder, which I'd like to preserve of course. So I'm curious: is it possible for me to install the 64bit version of Mint without user dotfiles making trouble? More specif...

 
@RolandTaylor Indeed.
 
7:56 PM
@BrunoPereira Would you like to answer this question? mainly because it is actually yours and you've solved the problem
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Q: charm proof issues a "relation server has no hooks" warning

Octavian DamieanWhen I run charm proof <path_to_charm_folder> I get the following warning. W: relation server has no hooks What does this mean and how do I get rid of it?

m_3 apparently doesn't want to answer it.
 
@OctavianDamiean Y U NO ANSWER MY COMMENT?
 

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