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ajmitch

00:01

And the vote counter ticks over for another day

George Edison

Woohoo! My flag weight increaseth.

ajmitch

@GeorgeEdison lucky you :)

Marco Ceppi

@Oli I do and it's already been fixed.

3

A: Software centre image link is broken

This appears to be an issue with certain ISPs, while the root cause is unknown, it appears to affect a large part of the community. As a result I've updated the bit.ly link to point to a different URL of the same image. The image links isn't broken. Not sure how else to replicate this. ...

Oli

00:25

@MarcoCeppi Look at my comment at the end of that (posted shortly after you wrote that). It still doesn't work - the links have to go through i.stack.imgur.com for them to work here (for some reason)

MJB

00:40

Is it possible to get dwm/xmonad style of tiling management in firefox?

Oli

@MJB in Firefox? Have pages tiled around rather than be tabbed?

Like this: addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tile-tabs ?

MJB

@Oli Right. Ff 7 has that functionality. But I'm missing the "dynamic" tiling functionality with "hjkl"-control. I'm wondering if that's done or possible.

Oli

@MJB No idea

Marco Ceppi

@Oli What you're not getting is it has been switched to i.stack

I'm on a train with train wifi, so it's slow, but I'll screenshot in a second

Oli

@MarcoCeppi Well that's even more odd because when I tested it earlier it, that wasn't happening here

wget bitly.com/software-small
--2011-10-20 01:55:03--  bitly.com/software-small
Resolving bitly.com... 69.58.188.33, 69.58.188.34
Connecting to bitly.com|69.58.188.33|:443... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 301 Moved
Location: i.imgur.com/oRhB2.png [following]
--2011-10-20 01:55:04--  i.imgur.com/oRhB2.png
Resolving i.imgur.com... 93.184.221.133
Connecting to i.imgur.com|93.184.221.133|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found

Marco Ceppi

00:57

Nevermind, it's only edited the title. Not the actual link.

Oli

Actually, bitly.com/software-small+ says that it's not using the .stack. version

Aaah

Marco Ceppi

Redacted?

George Edison

@MarcoCeppi What are you visiting them for?

Marco Ceppi

Don't really know yet

Questions Feed

01:10

Can you answer this? PC logs off instead of shuts down http://askubuntu.com/questions/66777/pc-logs-off-instead-of-shuts-down #bug

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on October 20, 2011 at 1:06 AM

Wane5tars

03:47

Having some problems with graphics drivers. Oddly enough, they work exactly how I want them to on the liveUSB, but it drops 3D support when its installed. Any way I could copy/apply these settings?

Roland Taylor

04:04

@Explorer not even a hi?

Questions Feed

Source code for 'df' command http://askubuntu.com/questions/69581/source-code-for-df-command #disk

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on October 20, 2011 at 4:06 AM

Kaustubh P

06:01

Whats with developers not giving Shutdown buttons in the name of User Control ?

ajmitch

What do you mean by that?

Kaustubh P

I read a blog by some developer named Joel, who said that they did not provide a shutdown button in Gnome Shell, in the name of user-control.

ajmitch

complain to them, I still see a shutdown option in unity :P

Kaustubh P

Haha. well there is a suspend button in the user menu, which changes to shutdown when user presses the Alt key.

ajmitch

sounds perfectly windows-like

Kaustubh P

06:10

And there are gnome-shell-extensions that can be installed in Fedora, that give you the button and some other things like docks. Haven't been able to install in Ubuntu, yet.

@ajmitch Really? You can do the same in Windows?

I gotta check now.

ajmitch

I don't often use windows, but I recall the shutdown menu being a bit odd there

Kaustubh P

I checked just now. There is a default button that can be assigned a value (that u use frequently, I guess), and others can be selected via a hover menu.

George Edison

06:46

Night all.

FlackBot

Goodbye!

htorque

07:12

will this spam ever stop? oO

Questions Feed

Bounty offered: How to install using Ubuntu Core? http://askubuntu.com/questions/67001/how-to-install-using-ubuntu-core #ubuntucore

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on October 20, 2011 at 7:06 AM

Capt.Nemo

07:53

@KaustubhP you can alt click on the user menu in Gnome shell to see "Power Off"

ajmitch

08:15

@htorque it's a cunning ploy for you to get to 749 flag weight, isn't it?

htorque

@ajmitch yeah, it's a love-hate - but only until i get the badge. :D

ajmitch

haha

let me flag a few

I only just got to the 500 flag weight mark today :)

htorque

\o/

htorque

09:03

meh, another day without the swag delivered. :-)

Octavian Damiean

:(

I've even got my new notebook battery. :)

Eight cells for the win!

htorque

i'd love to have a nine-cell battery for my t510, but it costs 100+€ :-/

Octavian Damiean

Paid 89€ for the 8-cell one.

Oxwivi

I've got a remote FTP server with authentication. I want to use Nautilus but it doesn't have those username/password fields.

No other choice other than a dedicated FTP client?

Ah, got the solution. Get Nautilus to open an ftp:// link and it will ask for the method of connection.

Octavian Damiean

Why wouldn't it have those fields ... sure it has them.

:D

Oxwivi

09:11

@OctavianDamiean I'm still on Natty, dunno about Oneiric. But if ye go to Connect to Server and choose FTP you won't have those fields.

Octavian Damiean

Well you have to try to open the connection first.

Then there is a popup.

You can enter all the stuff you need and choose an option how to save the entered data.

Oxwivi

Yeah, that's what I did by entering ftp:// link in the address bar or whatever it's called.

Octavian Damiean

Yup.

Oxwivi

But since it's automatically going to / which I don't have access to, I don't know how I can navigate to my folders. What a pain...

Octavian Damiean

Isn't that like a wrong setting on the FTP server?

Oxwivi

09:14

Got no idea, I'm no admin.

Octavian Damiean

If you log in with an account you should get into the directory that you have access in.

Oxwivi

Anyway, either it's SFTP or FTP, Nautilus likes to take me / by default.

htorque

> Cartier Replica mens watches Breitling Replica Breitling Replica expensive watches

aaaaaa

ajmitch

@htorque refresh every 5 minutes, and there's yet more to flag away

Octavian Damiean

I want them watchez! GIEF MEH THEM WATCHEZ!

htorque

09:21

:D

damn, out of habit i always flag those spam posts as "not an answer" instead of "spam" :D

someone has to stop this. while it's certainly no spam flood, it has never been that bad since the launch of AU.

ajmitch

09:37

@htorque agreed, it's increased a lot over the last few days, it seems

more wow gold farming ads...

Oxwivi

@OctavianDamiean It appears to be behaving as you said, I think the connection timed out the first time around.

htorque

09:54

no! again flagged as not an answer... i'm low on caffeine i guess. every time i lose another flag. :D

Oxwivi

Shall we start a Meta thread asking to allow us to change or at least cancel our flags?

htorque

i guess you can just add a comment

Kaustubh P

@htorque \o

htorque

i'm sure there are already threads about this at meta.stackoverflow.com

@KaustubhP hi!

Kaustubh P

@htorque how are you doing :) ?

Oxwivi

10:03

@KaustubhP The spam is wearing down on his caffeine.

htorque

@KaustubhP fine! how about you?

Rinzwind

The world is about to end.... MC Hammer is starting a new search engine :-X

Oxwivi

@Rinzwind What's MC Hammer?

Kaustubh P

@htorque cool. cool cool cool.

@Rinzwind ola!

Rinzwind

@Oxwivi ...

►

have fun :X

Kaustubh P

10:11

Heres the news.

Seems like he wants to do something that Google is already doing.

Questions Feed

filefrag--what's going on here? http://askubuntu.com/questions/69608/filefrag-whats-going-on-here #files

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on October 20, 2011 at 10:06 AM

Kaustubh P

@Rinzwind tell him that its not his thang!

;)

Rinzwind

he didn't listen :=)

Kaustubh P

He probably must be thinking, Lets build a Search Engine. Beaches love Search Engines.

Oxwivi

@Rinzwind No can do, I don't like music and my headphones aren't near, so...

htorque

10:23

Unfortunately, this video is not available in Central Europe because it may contain music for which GEMA has not granted the respective music rights. :P

ajmitch

@htorque 738 flag weight for you now, so close ;)

htorque

yet so many flags to go, stupid near-asymptotical weight calculation

i'm sure that's still like 100 flags

ajmitch

probably

I'm not too worried about it, just want to get rid of the ****ing spam

but it's sleep time now, I'll let you handle it :)

htorque

good night! :)

Amith KK

10:47

Kmeh

Hi all

FlackBot

Hey, nice to see you!

Amith KK

The sinnoh league stadium looks familiar

Oxwivi

11:01

Is it me or does this login screen look much cooler than the GDM login boxes we're used to?

jrg

That looks awesome.

Amith KK

Awesome!

AFK

jrg

Can someone make a lightDM theme for that...? :D

Amith KK

@jrg YU NO ONLINE ON GTALK? :P

jrg

11:18

@AmithKK I should be.

Amith KK

no

Oxwivi

I'm back now.

I can't believe this epic regression.

But current LightDM is plenty good enough, better than the Warty one, IMO.

htorque

@jrg i certainly can, but i won't. :P

jrg

It's all CSS, right...?

Amith KK

@htorque Prove it!!!

htorque

11:31

i'm not sure about the state of the webkit greeter for lightdm (the one that allows you to have a html page as greeter)

cd ..

oops, wrong window :D

jrg

:D

Amith KK

@jrg YU bohh chat?

jrg

I should be online...

Oxwivi

@jrg Did you secretly block him? :0

Explorer

@RolandTaylor that was hi, <3 and where are you all together

jrg

11:39

@Oxwivi no, pidgin was running, I just wasn't online. :P

htorque

@jrg just had a look at unity-greeter: it's basically ~2k lines of vala.

jrg

I have been mislead. I thought it was CSS. :O

htorque

buuuuut, i think to make it look like ubuntu 4.10, you'd only need to edit/shuffle around some code.

jrg

Hehe, google knows me too well.

anytime I search for something tech related, the Ask Ubuntu results are on page one. :D

htorque

yeah, there is a greeter that let's you do this stuff via css, but not sure how mature that is (it was available as lightdm-webkit-greeter, but that's no longer there)

Amith KK

11:43

@jrg Same here

htorque

launchpad.net/lightdm-webkit-greeter

Oxwivi

@jrg You have been profiled!

jrg

@htorque Thanks, I'll take a look at that

htorque

Webkit Greeter is not in Ubuntu Oneiric repos

The Wekit Greeter should become avaiable in the Ubuntu Oneiric repos because it is really easy to theme lightdm with it If this is due to lightdm not supporting this implementation anymore it should be rethought, as the abilities with wekit are endless, take a look at this login screen developed in a few hours for elementary: http://46.38.232.100/lightdm-theme-elementary/

LightDM Webkit Greeter

High / Triaged

Amith KK

Precise

jrg

12:11

@htorque To counter that... - bugs.launchpad.net/lightdm-webkit-greeter/+bug/878803

htorque

no documentation?

doesn't webkit greeter also come with an example greeter

jrg

I can't find any.

Oxwivi

0

Q: Move /home to a different disk

Currently my /home partition and / are on different disks (configured at install time). Can anyone guide me to move the /home directory to the disk where my / currently resides in?

directory

jrg

@Oxwivi oooohhh... good question.

Oxwivi

@jrg Thanks. It's on my USB disk to be accurate. I want to free it up and put Ubuntu 11.10 image in it.

Shiki

13:00

G'day guys!

Amith KK

@Shiki Hi, Welcome to AU chat

Questions Feed

13:14

Move /home to a different disk http://askubuntu.com/questions/69733/move-home-to-a-different-disk #directory

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on October 20, 2011 at 1:06 PM

Shiki

Hmm

from this home moving, resizing and other stuff I always remember

there should be a more dynamic disk implementation like the Disk Manager on Windows... something convenient, yet easy and powerful

brunopereira81

hallo

Shiki

@brunopereira81 - hey!

brunopereira81

13:30

(afk)

brunopereira81

13:50

@jrg have a script for you! Will get it when I arrive home (4 hours) :P

Rinzwind

14:31

Ha! another dictator gone \o/

Explorer

@RolandTaylor poke

thanks :-\

Jorge Castro

@brunopereira81 hey any luck on that chrome autoupdating thing?

brunopereira81

@JorgeCastro no, not yet! ill post the lauchpad bug report on the answer so you can keep a track also.

Jorge Castro

that would be great!

brunopereira81

14:46

working on it

Rinzwind

Happy birthday all!
"Ubuntu, the world's most popular GNU/Linux based operating system is celebrating its 7th year today. Ubuntu was first released on 20 October 2004. In these 7 years Ubuntu has changed the GNU/Linux desktop segment by making it more useful for ordinary user."

brunopereira81

15:01

@JorgeCastro bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unattended-upgrades/+bug/…

Off, later

Roland Taylor

15:26

@Explorer :(

0

Q: Are there any free, high quality, career mode games for Linux?

One of the most frustrating things about gaming on Linux is that every game with some semblance of quality requires me to play with a bunch of obnoxious people online. Are there any free Linux games, with some degree of quality, that allow the player to play offline in a "career mode"?

games

Too ranty?

BTW, community wiki?

fatai

hi, Are there any one knows how I can display what happens at my assembly program without running it?

Oxwivi

@RolandTaylor Yes! My internet connection is horrible, I don't find any good single player game.

Roland Taylor

I'm tired of gaming with obnoxious people :/

htorque

nexuiz has bots :P

Roland Taylor

Yeah, so does Xonotic, but they're boring as....

htorque

15:40

no people no fun. play quake live (if that's still alive) and turn of chatting. :)

or don't play anything and read a good book instead. :P

Roland Taylor

Doesn't Linux have ANY games with a storyline?

htorque

you can play half-life and half-life 2 :D

even portal

Roland Taylor

BTW, I've played almost all the shooters we have... and they're all the same. Q3 engine or Q2 engine, or mod - same maps, same graphics, same pointless shooting...

htorque

(not sure about portal 2)

Oxwivi

@htorque Read: free.

Roland Taylor

15:42

There must be something with a story line, a mission, a purpose...

htorque

oops

Roland Taylor

Yes... and free works :)

htorque

i guess that's just too much you are asking for. :-)

Oxwivi

Seriously, are there lack of story tellers in the FLOSS world?

I can't understand why there's an acute lack of a career-mode games.

htorque

i don't think coming up with a story is the problem :P

Roland Taylor

15:44

I would do it, but I have the ideas, not the team...

Oxwivi

@htorque Getting the devs to agree and work on the stories, you mean?

Roland Taylor

@Oxwivi I could say why, but I'd risk getting chewed up over it.

Oxwivi

@RolandTaylor It's just the two of use here. :) (Other than yourself)

htorque

@Oxwivi a good game is a looooot of work.

Roland Taylor

Yes, but why put all the effort into junk?

I mean, why do developers... put effort into junk.

Oxwivi

15:47

@RolandTaylor LOL!

Roland Taylor

I think the problem is that we have too many dungeon dwellers in the FOSS community. We need exposure to the sun a bit (including me) so we know how to integrate with the wider world.

(Yes, that stings a bit, but it needs to be addressed).

Amith KK

Is back

Oxwivi

Here's what I think:

Roland Taylor

Haha somebody downvoted my question :)

Oxwivi

When it comes to features, it's all great, and it will accepted.

Roland Taylor

15:48

Looks like a stuck a nerve, especially seeing as they left no comment.

Oxwivi

But stories, nobody cares in the first place, but if they do want one, there'd be lot of disagreements into integrating it into the game.

Amith KK

@RolandTaylor I did?

Roland Taylor

@Oxwivi maybe, but companies have succeeded at if for years.

Maybe it's just that no one has tried it on Linux.

Oxwivi

I think we should encourage/advocate building campaign creators for FLOSS games.

Who's with me?

Roland Taylor

@AmithKK did what?

Amith KK

15:52

@Oxwivi I have no "FLOSS" games

BTW i dont floss

Roland Taylor

@Oxwivi me

@AmithKK that's good... if you're a rapper like me ;)

Flossing == showing off...

Oxwivi

@RolandTaylor Let's communicate the idea with some projects then?

Amith KK

@RolandTaylor I knoz

Roland Taylor

Floss a lots == failures

Amith KK

I have a mailserver related q

Roland Taylor

15:53

@AmithKK sited

@Oxwivi it needs to be formulated first :)

Oxwivi

@RolandTaylor What needs to be formulated?

Roland Taylor

As in, get a concrete something, then attract interested parties, then push it out there.

Oxwivi

My idea is, we talk the projects to start with some initial system.

Then maybe we can create some sort of platform to share and popularize these campaigns online.

Yeah.

Amith KK

@Oxwivi Like: The Gamerz of the Linuz

Roland Taylor

The games themselves would need some modding though. Maybe the best route is to start by getting a game together (something simple) to demonstrate the concept to developers, and get people's feedback. The point is, at the end of the day, when we start getting an influx of the Windows/Mac diaspora, we're going to find ourselves disappointing the gamers unless they find something established.

(I need to get less good at ranting lol)

Amith KK

15:58

4

Q: Is Jorge Castro a Robot?

Before reading see the following links I noticed today http://askubuntu.com/users/235/jorge-castro http://askubuntu.com/users?tab=voters&filter=all http://about.me/jorge.castro http://askubuntu.com/users?tab=editors&filter=all After that, how can a human have time for all of that....

discussion

HYPERLOL

Oxwivi

@Oxwivi *some sort of initial campaign building system

Roland Taylor

...

Who questions the origins of Jorge Castro?

Amith KK

"Jorge is the result of an elaborate Chinese botnet running on millions of Windows XP computers around the world."

Roland Taylor

They must be punished.

Oxwivi

@RolandTaylor Well for that we'd need a team. And the project themselves are where we get a good start, is what I'm thinking.

htorque

15:59

hehe

they always forget to add that he doesn't blend.

Amith KK

@htorque Lets ask Dickson

Roland Taylor

@Oxwivi trust me, from experience, the teams are not the people to approach first.

htorque

who's dickson?

Amith KK

That blendtec guy.

Oxwivi

@RolandTaylor Well, how do we get started then?

Amith KK

16:05

Jon Skeet, Reading, United Kingdom

361k 87 1476 2657

c# java .net linq generics asp.net multithreading

WAAAIT

361K?

Oxwivi

I'll do whatever I can to help.

Alvar

2

Q: Wubi.exe won’t start

I'm currently using Win7 64bit. I right clicked "wubi.exe" and chose "run as administrator", then nothing happened. I have "ubuntu-10.04.2-desktop-i386.iso" and "wubi.exe" in the same folder. Thanks.

64-bit wubi

what is teh deal with this question?

Marco Ceppi

@AmithKK Yeah, Jon Skeet is quite an active user.

Alvar

what does it have to to do with Ubuntu?

he is using windows!

Oxwivi

@Alvar Wubi, of course.

Marco Ceppi

16:07

It's Wubi, officially supported distribution of Ubuntu.

Alvar

what's wubi?

Marco Ceppi

@Alvar wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide?action=show&redirect=Wubi

Alvar

@flackbot lookup wubi

Roland Taylor

@Oxwivi We form a document of what the plan is, then get a community formed around it :)

Alvar

aha

why was it removed? :P

Oxwivi

16:09

@RolandTaylor GDocs?

Roland Taylor

(I won't be able to start right right now, but we can work on it in our own time :))

0

A: Is Jorge Castro a Robot?

Don't believe the heretic lies of Marco Ceppi! Jorge's origins are generally a well kept secret, but with the permission of the universal council, I will reveal his nature: Jorge is an entity. Where there is a question, Jorge is present to edit. Jorge was created via a mysterious process unknow...

4

Alvar

awesome!

Oxwivi

@RolandTaylor Okay, ping me on AU then.

Roland Taylor

@Oxwivi yep

cool

hmm the preview still uses the wrong word...

Oxwivi

Jorge Castro is the AU mascot.

Questions Feed

16:15

Are there any free, high quality, career mode games for Linux? http://askubuntu.com/questions/69817/are-there-any-free-high-quality-career-mode-games-for-linux #softwarerecommendation

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on October 20, 2011 at 4:06 PM

Amith KK

16:26

BBL

htorque

damn, i think i'll soon be able to answer my own question

want somebody else to get rep

Roland Taylor

@AmithKK cya

Marco Ceppi

@RolandTaylor You want for Linux or for Ubuntu?

Roland Taylor

@MarcoCeppi Linux (it should be playable on Ubuntu ofc)

Marco Ceppi

Then this question should go on either gaming or U&L

Roland Taylor

16:37

Oh well then let me make it Ubuntu specific (I intended to keep it here)

Jorge Castro

16:56

Q+A with Rick Spencer (ubuntu engineering manager) on #ubuntu-classroom on freenode.

2

Jorge Castro

17:07

I could use people asking questions!

George Edison

Shakes head...

-1

A: Build in WinXp 32 for Win Xp 64 Bit

It's not possible to build a 64 application on a 32 bit operating system. It is possible to do the opposite, build a 32 bit application on a 64 bit OS.

Oxwivi

@GeorgeEdison Windows XP 64-bit? Isn't it literally useless? I mean there's someone actually using it, and for development purposes on top of that?

fatai

17:52

0

Q: debugging assembly code under gdb | platform linux

I am new to debugging an assembly code under gdb.Therefore, I have some question; How can I run my assembly code without actually running it ? If it needs a value, how can I insert a value to see how it works for each case in switch statement? ex: I couldnot give example on assembly so I give ...

c debugging assembly gdb recommendation

Alvar

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaww...... stackoverflow.com/questions/140376/…

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jrg

18:52

Jorge is a Robot.

Roland Taylor

@jrg the council will deal... with you.

jrg

I do not fear the Council.

Roland Taylor

In soviet Russia, the Council does not fear you :).

Oxwivi

The enemy! Stomp out the brethren of the Dark Side at once!

jrg

I mean, they have to abide by the CoC. Which means I can only get yelled at, lose upload rights to the JorgePository, and be banished to the Debian Dessert.

George Edison

18:55

@jrg Or the United Terrorist Republic of Windows [Gasp!]

Roland Taylor

:O!

jrg

@GeorgeEdison IN THE NAME OF TORVALDS NO!

Roland Taylor

No punishment could be worse!

@jrg they would put you in a NTFS partition and slowly fragment you until theres nothing recognizable left D:!

George Edison

Yes it could - The Communist Territories of Microsoft Bob.

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jrg

@RolandTaylor I fear no NTFS partition. Only the btfrs of two years ago.

George Edison

18:57

Heh, FAT16 for everyone!

Roland Taylor

D:

jrg

NOooooooOOOOOOoooo!!!!!! D:

Roland Taylor

@jrg worse yet, they might make you run live copies of Windows ME on real hardware... with no anti-virus!

George Edison

...running on Windows ME to boot.

Oxwivi

... I wonder what an average Joe would think if they saw the above...

George Edison

18:59

@RolandTaylor Lol... you stole my Windows ME joke :P

Roland Taylor

@GeorgeEdison LOL

jrg

@RolandTaylor That is a fate worse than fragmentation.

@Oxwivi LOLLLLLLL

Roland Taylor

@Oxwivi they would probably call us war criminals :P

Even average Joe knows Windows ME is a heinous crime!

Oxwivi

@RolandTaylor They'd think we are aliens.

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