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Stefano Palazzo

4:00 PM

don't know what "install remix" means though

Kaustubh P

@StefanoPalazzo netbook remix, i think

Stefano Palazzo

If it is, it's on topic

but we need a magician to fix it :)

Marco Ceppi

0

Q: Linux OS change

dual boot Win7 Jolicloud delete Joliclou install remix ?use same partician?

Oli

Ooo we got a mention on the Ubuntu Server Survey

under "What method of community support have you used? Check any that apply"

Stefano Palazzo

hope that bears fruit :) (i fear the questioner might not come back for a few hours, somehow)

Oli

4:07 PM

Check

Jorge Castro

he awesome

link to the survey?

Oli

survey.ubuntu.com

There's some buggy JS on that survey... It keeps hiding sub-questions that are relevant to my interests when I check some options

Marco Ceppi

I took the survey :D

Stefano Palazzo

yeah, it hides the support question as soon as you enter a number of servers you use (which it has asked before)

Oli

Ah excellent... There's a bit bit about Ubuntu Advantage and Landscape (something I had a little rant about the other day)

Jorge Castro

4:12 PM

I passed your blog on to the landscape team

Stefano Palazzo

@oli yeah there's even the Oli Option, "Ubuntu Advantage is too expensive" :)

Oli

@StefanoPalazzo It is! Well.. it's not that it's too expensive for what it is, I just don't need it. I've got all the support I'll ever need right here. Landscape on its own is a product that Canonical should be selling.

@JorgeCastro Cheers!

Stefano Palazzo

If the IP indemnification is a real product, with a straightforward cost/profit calculation behind it, then offering Ubuntu Advantage without it, for less, would be a great deal I think

that is, if the promise of legal protection is not just thrown in because it won't be needed anyway

Would be interesting to know if it's actually been of any use to anybody

Oli

@StefanoPalazzo Well that's it... It's insurance against something that may or may not ever happen.

But businesses buy it because they wager they can't cover that liability.

Stefano Palazzo

right, would be nice to have some figures to do a risk assessment

(I'm sure the affected businesses have them)

Oli

4:22 PM

Indeed it would. I doubt any Linux vendor would ever give them out though... If it's not being used, people stop buying it... If it is, businesses stop using Linux completely

MichealH

Hi @JorgeCastro and @StefanoPalazzo

Stefano Palazzo

hello @MichealH

Marco Ceppi

@MichealH I would argue your point of being the coolest Ubuntu User around :P

Kaustubh P

wow, thats a long survey :/

MichealH

@MarcoCeppi I made a Ask Ubuntu IRC Bot \o/ :)

Stefano Palazzo

4:29 PM

My take on this new LibreOffice Ribbon-UI Mockup

Jorge Castro

Man, that looks so awesome

Marco Ceppi

@JorgeCastro I know right?!

Stefano Palazzo

I'm just not enough of a user of office-software to appreciate it I suppose. But I'd like the ui to just be native, look and work like everything else; and I'd be completely happy.

Marco Ceppi

I was talking about the Picture of the solider and the "Why"

I think the ribbon looks a little gimicky

Stefano Palazzo

oh i see (:

Jorge Castro

4:32 PM

I'm a ribbon fan

Kaustubh P

@JorgeCastro whats a "ribbon"?

Jorge Castro

the big button layout thing under the menu

Ribbon (computing)

In GUI-based application software, a ribbon is an interface where a set of toolbars are placed on tabs in a tab bar. Recent releases of some Microsoft applications have embraced this form with an intricate modular ribbon as their main interface. The Ribbon GUI provides the user interface of an application with a large toolbar filled with graphical representations of control elements which are grouped by different functionality. The Ribbon can also contain tabs to expose different sets of control elements eliminating the need for a lot of different icon-based tool bars. Some of these tabs ar...

unfortunately it is heavily patented or something

Marco Ceppi

Kaustubh P

aah, i bet MS has it

yep

Stefano Palazzo

I'm one of those die-hards who think that every piece of software should work in exactly the same way, and share a small set of UI elements if at all possible

Marco Ceppi

4:35 PM

@StefanoPalazzo If they all use ribbons then you would be SOL :P

Stefano Palazzo

hehe

Marco Ceppi

Ribbons == Tabbed interface IMO

Stefano Palazzo

the next big innovation in browser technology you mean? Oh nooo!

:P

Jorge Castro

stackexchange.com/sites?expand=true

we're within 1k trafficwise of Gaming!

we've really closed the gap the past 2 weeks

Oli

The MS office implementation is a little bit more than just tabbing. Live previews of styles and previews. Things to try and get people using semantic styles rather than just boofing-around with the font settings each time. I liked it when I first started using it.

Jorge Castro

4:37 PM

yeah, I love the ribbon

Oli

Either way, it's good to see something happening with OO's lacklustre interface. It hasn't had a lot of love from anybody recently.

Jorge Castro

don't get your hopes up

that just some guy's UI mockup

Oli

Well I thought IBM would push development on their Lotus UI a little more but they seem to have just done the first bit and dropped it.

Stefano Palazzo

Is it just me or does it appear that SE sites which seem to be "problematic" generally have a very high proportion of answered questions, around 98-100%, whereas sites that run well only have between 85 and 92%?

Oli

It was a step in the right direction (despite their implementation being butt ugly)

Jorge Castro

4:40 PM

you mean the symphony UI?

Oli

@StefanoPalazzo Is that not a sign that those sites aren't getting enough questions? A good site has enough incoming to have a few slip through.

Jorge Castro

yeah, I liked it, but at one point they stopped updating the debs

Oli

@JorgeCastro That's the badger

Stefano Palazzo

@Oli that sounds reasonable, I was thinking (having my opinion coloured by the madness at atheism.se) that every questions just gets a load of bad answers; one can cause the other

Oli

@JorgeCastro Looking at more recent screenshots, it's actually not as ugly as I remember it being... Still, doesn't look too much more than a tabbed bar of icons

urig

4:48 PM

Hello All. Anyone up to help a newbie restore data from his ext3 raid hard-drive? :)

Oli

0

Q: Not enough components to start the RAID array?

I'm trying to retrieve data from a "Western Digital MyBook World Edition (white light)" NAS device. This is basically an embedded Linux box with a 1TB HDD in it formatted in ext3. It stopped booting one day for no apparent reason. I have extracted the HDD from the NAS device and installed it in ...

mount raid

@urig Researching now.

Jorge Castro

oh man

I had one of those white NAS things

Yep. That's it.

it was slow, etc.

Many thanks.

4:52 PM

though I never bothered to try to get the data off of it

urig

I also posted this - it's a different approach to solve the same issue: askubuntu.com/questions/21989/…

I guess it is kind of slow but it managed to stream videos to my XBOX which was good enough for me :)

The annoying thing is that WD don't believe in fixing stuff - they have this policy of replacing bad units for new ones and your data be damned. In fact just by removing the drive from its enclosure I've voided my warranty :(

Jorge Castro

yeah that was the last myworld thing I bought

urig

The thing is that Disk Utility is indicating that the drive is healthy but the mount command says it's not ext3. Is that because it's a RAID partition?

I don't even know which RAID level :(

Jorge Castro

oh so the data is there, you just need to mount it

urig

I believe so. I'm hoping only the boot partiton is damaged.

Jorge Castro

4:58 PM

no idea on this one, I guess we'll just wait to see what people come up to

Stefano Palazzo

0

Q: Thunderbird is preferred mail app, messaging menu still loads evolution

Hi, After installing ubuntu I setup my email in evolution, which is fine but on balance I prefer Thunderbird so I installed and set that up. Under preferred applications I have set the mail to Thunderbird, but when I click on the icon in the top right (the mail envelope) and select mail it stil...

thunderbird messaging-menu

can we close this? :-)

your vote counts

urig

What's mdadm?

Oh: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mdadm

Stefano Palazzo

@urig mdadm is a piece of software to manage raid arrays

urig

mdadm --detail /dev/sdb
mdadm: /dev/sdb does not appear to be an md device
Grrr!!

Why doesn't fdisk -l show me any MD devices?

Jorge Castro

I am finding some things

Oli

5:04 PM

@urig I posted an answer

Jorge Castro

but to be honest they look scary, so I'm going to just upvote you when I get new votes and hope for the best

urig

@Oli I kiss you many times!

Already installed mdadm in the hope it allows me to start the raid - it didn't :(. Reading on.

So sudo mdadm --assemble --scan is risky for me?

Oli

It shouldn't be but I honestly have no idea how these things are set up

If it can't create it, mdadm should report a failure

Kaustubh P

@all g'night!

urig

What's a superblock?

mdadm: /dev/md0 has been started with 1 drive (out of 2).
mdadm: /dev/md1 has been started with 1 drive (out of 2).
mdadm: /dev/md3 has been started with 1 drive (out of 2).
mdadm: /dev/md2 has been started with 1 drive (out of 2).

Progress! I now see 4 partitions each as a RAID-1 Array. They all have status DEGRADED. First 3 are started and the last one - the one I'm interested in is not. I get a warning when I attempt to start it:

"Are you sure you want the RAID array degraded?"

Jorge Castro

5:14 PM

aha!

make sure you update your question with the latest information

urig

Will certainly update the question. A blog post is also planned :).

What's a degraded raid array and what's wrong with starting it?

Jorge Castro

yeah, take copius notes

degraded means it's messed up

like if a disk dies

it's slower, etc. but it should work

Stefano Palazzo

@urig, No idea if it makes a difference, but do you have the disks in the right order?

urig

I think the disks aren't quite in the right order. The big partition which appears last (sdb4) is now md1 for some reason.

Stefano Palazzo

Not having a clue, I'm thinking you can try to permute the order until it doesn't say it's degraded anymore (check with someone else if that makes any sense at all before wasting your time)

Marco Ceppi

5:19 PM

Ah, degraded RAID disks...good times...

urig

How can I permute the numbers?

Stefano Palazzo

you'll have to plug them into different ports

Oli

@JorgeCastro Did you WD Whateverit'scalled have two disks in it?

Stefano Palazzo

tedious and annoying

Oli

aghl

Jorge Castro

5:19 PM

no, mine had one disk

0

Q: Thunderbird is preferred mail app, messaging menu still loads evolution

Hi, After installing ubuntu I setup my email in evolution, which is fine but on balance I prefer Thunderbird so I installed and set that up. Under preferred applications I have set the mail to Thunderbird, but when I click on the icon in the top right (the mail envelope) and select mail it stil...

thunderbird messaging-menu

vote for dupe!

urig

@Oli aghl?

Oli

@urig My last message was intended for you but it went to Jorge

Stefano Palazzo

@urig here's the big problem with my permutation idea: paste.ubuntu.com/555150

urig

@Stefano Palazzo We're misunderstanding each other. It's a single physical drive with 4 partitions on it. Their numbering is mixed up between mdX and sdbX

Stefano Palazzo

I do hope the order doesn't make a differnce

Oh i see! Well never mind me then I though it was four disks

urig

5:21 PM

@Oli. No. My device only has a single 1TB drive.

I did mention that in my post, didn't I?

Oli

Basically, running a RAID1 disk without its partner disk isn't any more risky than running a single disk outside of RAID... But if it does have a partner disk it'll become out of sync. As you don't have one, I say mount it, ignore the warning

urig

Going for it :)

Oli

@urig Probably. I'm doing 70 things at once =)

Stefano Palazzo

@urig you did, excuse me :)

urig

Hmmpf. I get an error: One or more block devices are holding /dev/sdb2

I tried starting from Disk Utility

Oli

5:23 PM

@urig It can be fussy. It's not mounted anywhere is it?

sudo umount /dev/sdb2 should work (doesn't always, mind you)

urig

Oh wait, I'm sorry.

The partition I'm interested in is already started.

Jorge Castro

3

A: Adding a "lol" button.

Perhaps a 4 way voting arrow

Oli

@urig yey!?

Jorge Castro

I actually LOLed at that

urig

Sorry :D

Oli

5:25 PM

@JorgeCastro horizontal should be wtf and lol

perhaps have a super-upvote button: FTW!!

urig

Hoorah! I now have access to all the photos of my 2 year old daughter since when she was born. Thank you guys! Thank you oli!

Oli

@urig Make a backup!

urig

FTW!!

Marco Ceppi

@urig and @Oli Make it RAID 10!

urig

Will copy to a new drive immediately and will backup religiously from now on.

Oli

5:27 PM

@MarcoCeppi I'm rather partial to RAID5/6 but RAID is not a backup. What if the computer and backup gets stolen or you accidentally shift+delete it?

Jorge Castro

@Oli nice work!

Marco Ceppi

@Oli I agree, he should backup to a RAID10 array is what I was trying to hint at. :)

Jorge Castro

@urig make sure you update the question and answer, so the next person with one of those things doesn't get hosed!

urig

I'm going to buy a separate USB drive and backup to that regularly. Wish I could use something like dropbox as cloud backup but i have too many photos and videos there.

Marco Ceppi

Or let @Oli post an answer and accept that :D

urig

5:28 PM

Will do.

Jorge Castro

well, you could at least backup the photos

urig

It's several tens of Gigs just for the pics somehow. I just right-clicked properties on them.

Too expensive for cloud backup no?

Marco Ceppi

@urig one.ubuntu.com ?

Jorge Castro

one.ubuntu.com/plans

20 packs!

Oli

@urig AmazonS3 is good for bulk stuff at $0.093 per gigabyte per month on their reduced redundancy plan... So yeah it adds up

Marco Ceppi

5:31 PM

@Oli plus the bandwidth costs to upload

@urig have a look at thsi question:

66

Q: Comparison of backup tools

Backup is incredibly important. Obviously there's no best backup tool, but a comparison of the options would be very interesting. (I've made this a community wiki) Graphical Interface? Command line? Incremental backups? Automatic backups? Install method: In standard repositories? PPA?

software-recommendation backup

Oli

@MarcoCeppi Sure but that's fairly low too. It would cost just under $3 for the year to upload and host 10gigs

Jorge Castro

though, another drive + rsync would be good too, and doesn't have a recurring price

however it's not offsite

Marco Ceppi

@JorgeCastro exactly - and not redundant

Oli

It's a problem I need to address. My stupid camera can do 16gigs in a day.

urig

Ok guys. Thanks so much for your help. I've accepted your answer Oli and added a comment. Must rush out now. Thanks again!

Oli

5:34 PM

Seems silly but printing and albumning (new word for the win) might be a viable long-term option

Marco Ceppi

@Oli Ink is...expensive

2 1TB drives in a RAID might work

It'll cost you about $170 bucks

Oli

I've got 4 1.5TBs in RAID5 now. I'm happy with its on-site life-span... But I've had some bad experiences with RAID in the past

I've started to see long-life burnable Blu Ray media coming out (100year guaranteed) which might be another option.

Marco Ceppi

Yeah, so have we. We have these stupid MD1000s and in the last 6 months we've had 8 simultaneous disk failure (2 or more) on our arrays

Oli

Urgh!

Marco Ceppi

It's just completely crappy to get that call from nagios that two disks have gone in a RAID5

Oli

5:38 PM

What do you do in a situation like that? I assume if you're dealing with that much guff, you have backups somewhere

Marco Ceppi

So now we've bumped everything to RAID10 and changed disk vendor, but it's crap like that which makes you want to go home and sleep for a week

Jorge Castro

at past jobs there were people who bought drives from different vendors, etc. to avoid a bad batch

I dunno if that's just an ongoing urban legend though

Oli

Perhaps one day SSDs will be reliable enough (and more to the point: cheap for capacity) to not have to go any further than RAID5

Marco Ceppi

Luckily this has only happened on a production machine once - the others were backup arrays (so some of our backups were corrupted). But when we lost the production we had about 8 corrupted VM containers that we had to pull from backups (which were about 15 hours old)

I can't wait for the day that we go SSD

Tired of spinning platters

Jorge Castro

my intel ssd is rated to like 57 years of continuous writes or something sick like that

Oli

5:40 PM

Sounds like you'd burn through current-gen SSDs pretty fast.

@JorgeCastro That's awesome.

Marco Ceppi

Yeah, that's why we haven't implemented...yet. We have a long term plan to bring them in on our edge stuff after the next SSD gen comes out

Jorge Castro

no really, their enterprise SSDs are rated even higher

I think they're even more ridiculously expensive though

Oli

They still cost silly amounts compared to mechanicals though. Time should sort that.

Marco Ceppi

They are, they do

Jorge Castro

amazon.com/Intel-Extreme-2-5-Inch-Solid-State/dp/B001J2LQBU

Oli

5:43 PM

There's good competition though. Lots of products keep coming out and pushing the whole market price down.

Jorge Castro

hahaha, SICK

Marco Ceppi

yeah, we get 1TB drives for $60

Jorge Castro

I have this in my laptop: amazon.com/Seagate-Momentus-7200RPM-Hybrid-ST95005620AS-Bare/dp/…

writes are still slow but it's nice for like a laptop without breaking the bank

Oli

Whoa. for 32gigs?! You can get that in DDR3 cheaper.

Roland Taylor

hi

Oli

5:56 PM

Hi @RolandTaylor

Roland Taylor

hey

Gus

Do I need at least 5rep to post a question?

Roland Taylor

no

Stefano Palazzo

@Gus you need just 1 rep to ask and answer questions

Marco Ceppi

And it's impossible to get 0 or less reputation

Stefano Palazzo

6:00 PM

and @Gus, Welcome to the site :-)

Marco Ceppi

The fact that you're in chat means you've got more rep than most of our new users :D

Gus

Thanks Stefano.

I just created an account. I have accounts with other StackExchange sites, though

Marco Ceppi

I see, that explains that

Gus

I didn't know there was any "credit" rollover from other sites :-p

fluteflute

@Gus It only happens if you have 200 rep (and you were just below that when you signed up for Ask Ubuntu so I'm afraid you'll have to start from 1...)

Marco Ceppi

6:16 PM

However @Gus If you get 5 more rep points you'll get that boost!

fluteflute

@MarcoCeppi No he won't :P (at least not automatically, but per that post I linked it can by manually unlinking/linking the accounts)

fluteflute

6:50 PM

Hmmm my Natty Guest account wants a password...

Marco Ceppi

@fluteflute Try "narwhal" if that doesn't work try "spacecadet", lastly "sabdfl"

Stefano Palazzo

or "narwhal" even :)

fluteflute

@MarcoCeppi somehow I'm not surprised those didn't work :P

iamsid

Opulent Owl

Marco Ceppi

I was really wishing that would happen :P

So I'm looking for a place to stay between now and May - found this one...looks like a winner!

washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/roo/2164836433.html

iamsid

7:01 PM

O-animals: Ocelot, Octopus, Okapi (antelope), Olingo, Olm, Onager, Opossum, Orangutan, Orca, Oriole, Oropendola, Oropendula, Oryx, Osprey, Ostracod, Ostrich, Otter, Ovenbird, Owl, Ox, Oxen, Oxpecker, Oyster, Ozark big-eared bat, Otter. :)

Stefano Palazzo

He doesn't like to be in the spotlight

iamsid

:)

Ossum Opossum!

Marco Ceppi

1

A: Name suggestions for Ubuntu 11.10?

Oracular Octopus Oracular - of or relating to an oracle.

Stefano Palazzo

wasn't there one ubuntu animal that was fictional?

Marco Ceppi

Not thus far...

iamsid

7:08 PM

Ubiquitous Unicorn.

Stefano Palazzo

Oh yes, Jackalope

fluteflute

Jackalope is mythical

Marco Ceppi

@fluteflute I've seen one!!!

List of Ubuntu releases

Ubuntu, an operating system based on Debian GNU/Linux, makes two releases every year, using the year and month of the release as a version number. The first Ubuntu release, for example, was Ubuntu 4.10 and was released on 20 October 2004. Ubuntu releases are timed to be approximately one month after GNOME releases, which are in turn about one month after releases of X.Org, resulting in each Ubuntu release including a newer version of GNOME and X. To date every fourth release, in the second quarter of even-numbered years, has been designated as a Long Term Support (LTS) release, indicating...

iamsid

Me too!

Stefano Palazzo

they've glued little reverse antlers to his face the cruel monsters :(

iamsid

7:10 PM

Stefano Palazzo

hehehe

iamsid

@MarcoCeppi Why has "that" post been locked?

Marco Ceppi

It's dumb :P

iamsid

:P

Marco Ceppi

It was part of a temporary burst of "Fun-friday" threads which was later determined to be better suited for Forums than a Q&A site

iamsid

7:14 PM

They can't take on a whale, can they?

:P

Stefano Palazzo

7:29 PM

0

A: Hotkey to shut down from login screen?

It appears to be a missing feature. :-( There is a bug filed for this issue: #505323, GDM's settings bar inaccessible with keyboard See How do I subscribe to a bug for instruction on how to follow the progress of this bug. If you are already logged in to launchpad and ready to go, click "This b...

Look at how user-friendly that is :(

(I thought gnome a11y was stellar)

iamsid

KDE (vanilla) is the bomb.

Stefano Palazzo

Yeah I know it's used by a lot of blind people

iamsid

-_-

Roland Taylor

Orating Oryx

Only Orodromeus

(and jumping to Q)

iamsid

Quaint Quail

Roland Taylor

7:37 PM

Quiet Quadroclyptonychus - to steal one from my own novel :)

say it 5 times fast :P

iamsid

Said.

Piece o' cake.

Roland Taylor

haha

Nonchalant Nonoclyptonychus Arborealis Nigera Afarensis

11.05

iamsid

What's your novel called?

Roland Taylor

21 Islands

it's sci-fi

iamsid

Caribbean Islands!

Roland Taylor

7:42 PM

the "wet your pants grandma is coming to dinner" kind of sci-fi

iamsid

Eww!

Roland Taylor

where grandma = any assortment of man made beast :P

okay no more spoliers for now :P

iamsid

W00t!

Stefano Palazzo

Is "ssh" the same as "openssh-server"?

never mind I found out :) (it is)

fluteflute

@StefanoPalazzo I'd say it isn't....

(not that I know anything about the topic)

Stefano Palazzo

7:44 PM

~$ sudo apt-get install ssh
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
  openssh-server
Suggested packages:
  rssh molly-guard openssh-blacklist openssh-blacklist-extra
The following NEW packages will be installed
  openssh-server ssh

fluteflute

Just because the packages are the same doesn't mean it is "the same"

Stefano Palazzo

right you are, installing them just has the same result

fluteflute

Not quite what I mean

Stefano Palazzo

it doesn't, even. Installing openssh-server doesn't install ssh

fluteflute

kinda like "www-browser" isn't synonymous with firefox or chrome , etc

Marco Ceppi

7:46 PM

Isn't ssh just a meta package?

fluteflute

@StefanoPalazzo Oh I thought you meant as far as ask ubuntu tagging goes. Sorry ignore me.

Stefano Palazzo

Mh. I don't know now if I should put "ssh" in my answer, the questioner can't see the screen, and openssh-server doesn't require you to press "Y", saving about three steps

Roland Taylor

openssh-server isn't shh as far as I know

Stefano Palazzo

ah! No It's not about tagging

0

A: How to enable ssh server in recovery mode?

If you know what you're typing onto, it's just one simple command, but I'll explain the complete procedure to rule out any and all errors. Boot up the machine, holding down Shift When you're sure the grub menu is up, press Down then Return* Press Down six times to select "Drop to root shell pro...

iamsid

ssh is a metapackage.

Marco Ceppi

7:47 PM

ssh is just a metapackage (confirmed)

iamsid

packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=ssh

Marco Ceppi

@iamsid I win with the edit! :D

iamsid

:'(

Stefano Palazzo

the last recovery point on my 10.10 VM already has ssh installed :(

Marco Ceppi

@iamsid We can split the bounty :P

iamsid

7:48 PM

Sounds great! :D

<--

<—

------> @MarcoCeppi

-1, not enough unicode ↑

Marco Ceppi

-1, not enough bold

Stefano Palazzo

7:55 PM

~$ python no_of_users.py
7839

were close to 8k btw ;-)

Roland Taylor

–——»

iamsid

←↑↓→↖↗↙↘ @RolandTaylor

Roland Taylor

LOL

badp

in The Tavern (General) on Meta Stack Overflow Chat, Nov 23 '10 at 17:50, by balpha

Stefano Palazzo

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Marco Ceppi

7:56 PM

Going back a ways for that one @badp :P

badp

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Marco Ceppi

@StefanoPalazzo Why is there an anchor on the end of your text?

iamsid

♠♣♥♦

Stefano Palazzo

It may float away, because it's full of hot air
as you can see from the user-info box to the left of it

iamsid

⌦ ⌦ ⌦ ⌦

Marco Ceppi

7:58 PM

Looks for the troll room

iamsid