Game Development

Veritas

00:00

3 am here maybe not the best time for a monad tutorial

2

Aidan Mueller

I just realized that this kind of looks like an 80s space movie.

OMGtechy

@Veritas no worries :)

Veritas

alright then, later everyone and once again Techy thanks for the offer!

OMGtechy

you're welcome, sounds like you got it anyway :)

Pip

00:24

lol

Icy Defiance

00:59

dang it's only 9 pm here...I still have like half of my day ahead of me

guess I'll waste it playing league

Almo

02:13

LoL

@Wardy thanks :)

Icy Defiance

02:47

holy shit I just won a game after being down 12 kills to 2

and 3 turrets

Almo

:D

Sword

06:31

good afternoon

Sword

06:54

@Jon 53.3% complete , 15 hours remaining ..

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

08:36

user92578

lol

Chris

it starts off great

and then it's like

how does this access that again? and oh god i gotta change things up a bit, lets do it this way and wait nopppeee ah well stuff it

it runs! nobody will know

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

:P

user92578

yeah

user92578

so much to do but nothing I want to do nor do I know how do I want to do that stuff

Chris

08:39

like my interaction mechanic, you stand in front of an NPC, or stand next to a door, there's a collider trigger

and the hero class once per frame checks to see if it's standing in an interaction trigger

but now this wheel, I need to check if you're able to press the interact button without using a collider

user92578

I have pretty much a similar mechanic

Chris

so even in just typing this, realise I've probably made this harder for myself than I needed to lol

(added a few if/else checks against this non-interaction mechanic to spaghetti into the system lol

but yeah, a WeaponWheel, displaying 8 WeaponWheelSlots, which each can hold a WeaponWheelSlotItem

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

You should type out ideas and how you think you'll solve it in the chat more often.

Often it'll help you spot problems.

Chris

and you move the mouse or whatever and if you're over a Slot, equip the item you're hovering.
but now I'm adding an "Edit mode" so you can manually assign where you want your currently-equipped item to be located on the wheel

and so lots of temp placements as you move and hover around, swapping out, lots of if checks and yeah, it's complex but it's not, gets me thinking at least

yeah I like to type my thoughts out, even if I don't always post

user92578

09:14

I guess I just gotta pick up a task and do it

Chris

that's the one

if it's a task worth doing, do it

if it's not worth doing, drop it

user92578

first I need a list of tasks that need to be done

Chris

don't always need a list...

play your game

decide what's missing or what you'd like to improve

user92578

well currently I'm pretty happy with the gameplay

user92578

but I have nothing else in the game

Chris

09:16

make an ending

a goal

user92578

ah, that's a good one

Chris

then you reach the end, and your game is done :D

and then you can fill in everything else in between

user92578

hmm, so somekind of a boss

user92578

I wonder if I can draw anything suitable for a boss

user92578

maybe the boss could be just a really powerfull character

Chris

09:20

give him a hat :d

user92578

definitely

user92578

he needs a name

user92578

gunvillain?

user92578

doctor something?

Sword

justin bieber??

user92578

09:24

lol

user92578

two minutes of drawing and turns out that the final boss is a magician:

user92578

Sword

Monte Count or something

user92578

"Count GunVillain"

Chris

nice

Sword

09:27

Villain doesn't sound that cool

which mother would name her son "villain"

user92578

maybe it's his villain name

Sword

Count Gunhat , guncloak etc..

user92578

Count BlackCape

Sword

but villlain name shouldn't have "villain" in it..

user92578

have you heard the name of my hero? :D

Sword

09:28

@Tyyppi_77 yeah..the right name..

Chris

reminds of this guy from an old cartoon

Sword

I dint hear, i read :P

user92578

on the other hand, "GunHero" vs "GunVillain" could be really epic

user92578

or really lame

Chris

Snidely Whiplash or something was his name lol

get creative!!

Sword

09:30

Your hero should be called "BieberBlaster"

user92578

I wonder if I'd be able to animate that cape

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

I stumbled upon a spambot that failed parsing it's spam. :P

crgurps.comuv.com/content/…

Looks kinda funny :P

user92578

plot twist: the final boss is the brother of "GunHero", "GunVillain"

user92578

hence the similar names

Sword

metal gear solid -- Solid Snake vs Liquid Snake

user92578

09:32

LOL

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

You need to add a guy that helps you in some levels: "GunBro"

Sword

actually people are used to stories with brothers being enemies. try a different plot twist..

@William'MindWorX'Mariager haha :D

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

Tried and true isn't a bad thing.

Trying to be too original can be a problem :)

Chris

family ties add to the drama

Sword

GunGirl -- Girlfriend of GunHero who gets kidnapped by GunVillain. Wow , a typical classical Indian movie ..

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

09:34

I like it!

Reminds me of super meat boy though. :P The villain has a top hat too.

Chris

lol

user92578

and in the end scene GunGirl gives birth to a GunBaby, that is named GunHero Jr. and then I can start working on the sequel :D

Chris

there ya go

Sword

plot twist -- the father of gunBaby is Gunvillain..

user92578

I WAS JUST ABOUT TO SAY THAT! :D

user92578

09:38

you guys don''t happen to have a waving cape reference gif bookmarked?

user92578

How in the world I'm a going to draw that

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

Very carefully.

Sword

are you developing a game for PC ?

user92578

yup

user92578

09:53

First test (not too bad I think), and sorry about the speed, it's almost two times faster than the actual animation

user92578

7

Chris

that looks so slick man

the parallax bg
good colours
the movement
:D

user92578

now what kind of a gun should he have?

user92578

@Chris thanks a lot :)

user92578

I'm thinking a small machine gun (SMG?)

user92578

09:57

or two pistols

Sword

is it a contra type of game?

user92578

kinda

Sword

Assault Rifle

Maverick type

M4A1

user92578

But I'm thinking that he's too sophisticated for heavy guns like an assault rifle

Sword

heavy gun --> M249

anything will do as long as it has a cool fire rate

user92578

10:00

wow you know your guns

Sword

this should be ideal..

user92578

yeah! exactly like that!

JohnPoison

@Tyyppi_77 looks good

user92578

thanks!

Sword

thats an MP5 ,the gun in call of duty that i never use unless it is with me at the start of a mission (which I swap whenever I get the chance to)

Chris

10:05

ah yes, the trusty mp5

Sword

G36C and M4A1 were the favourites.

@Tyyppi_77 looks awesome..

user92578

ty!

JohnPoison

10:23

@Tyyppi_77 what framework do you use?

user92578

SDL2

user92578

But I've built a great framework of my own on top of that, and nowadays I don't really use any SDL stuff in my everyday game code

JohnPoison

@Tyyppi_77 I've decided to stay away of the things like "my own anything" if there is some good alternative to inventing your own wheel )

user92578

So I'm thinking about a boss fight, where the hero stands on the left side, and the villain shoots at him from the right, jumping up and down the platforms, and you have to avoid the bullets and wait for him to transition into a vunerable state

user92578

@JohnPoison Well the framework isn't something I planned doing, it's something that has come together as I've developed the game

user92578

10:28

Basically it's wrappers and such over SDL stuff

user92578

JohnPoison

@Tyyppi_77 Sure, It's natural thing

user92578

Something like that

SpartanDonut

10:51

Good morning GDSE

user92578

Hey!

Lokkij

Good morning.

Chris

mornin

OMGtechy

11:54

allo

Chris

7

still a bit to go but getting there

SpartanDonut

Nice

Oliver Schöning

That looks awesome @Chris

Chris

12:09

:D

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

@Chris Yeah, that looks really great.

I've always been a big fan of the wheel/radial menu.

Oliver Schöning

Me too. I want to use that in an editor I am planning to make

grrr >_< delta time.. jittery movement :p

Should one normalize DT ? lol

user92578

12:25

@Chris really cool

Pip

morning GDE

@Chris nice

user92578

morning @Pip!

Pip

gif looks nice @Tyyppi_77, good progress :D

user92578

thanks!

Jon

12:46

awesome gifs

Lokkij

13:01

I just found the +6 Blowgun of Lokkij's Execution. Hmm...

Pip

Hahahaha

Lokkij

13:32

Ooh, they revamped the DCSS homepage. Much better; it even shows live games.

Pip

nice

Lokkij

Though the images for the live games appear to have no connection with what the character in the actual game is doing. :(

Pip

That's annoying, but it's still cool :D

Lokkij

True. :D

Pip

14:30

open.spotify.com/track/60vkPCkZrYUQLRFK4EQwuA

user92578

15:09

You can now pick up weapons from dead enemies

user92578

really cool

user92578

15:23

Now I need to think about adding more guns to the game

user92578

and possibly some kind of loot crates

user92578

currently I have: assault rifle (general machine gun), semi machine gun (light machine gun) and a minigun

Veritas

bazooka and grenades

user92578

bazooka might be fun

user92578

also I might add more controllable stats to the guns, like bullet spread and damage

user92578

15:25

currently I only can control the fire rate

JohnPoison

@Tyyppi_77 laser )

Veritas

I thought about that but not sure if it fits the theme

user92578

yeah...

Veritas

otherwise through an alien plasma blaster as a reference :p

user92578

I'll put these down somewhere

Veritas

15:30

throw*

JohnPoison

what about melee weapons?

user92578

hmm, I don't currently support those but it's a possibility

JohnPoison

@Tyyppi_77 how do you edit levels?

user92578

I use Tiled

JohnPoison

great app

user92578

15:33

yeah

user92578

and has everything you need

Nickolas

Hey everyone

Lokkij

Hey!

user92578

Hey

Nickolas

I am a math student with an interest in Computer Graphics. What book do you suggest for the mathematical theory of computer graphics? For example, I've seen some notes on Physical Based Rendering and there is a ton of math (distributions, integrals (for lightining) etc . Suggestions?

user92578

15:39

okay bullet damage is now controllable!

Pip

@Nickolas hm... I would actually suggest doing some research into the core OpenGL concepts and graphics cards in general. All they really are is the application of a TON of math. Sorry that I can't recommend a book; it's not my field.

Nickolas

@Pip, thanks, here are the slides I was reffering to, they are from SIGGRAPH 2013 blog.selfshadow.com/publications/s2013-shading-course/lazarov/… blog.selfshadow.com/publications/s2013-shading-course/hoffman/…

Pip

cool

Veritas

@Nickolas get a good linear algebra book

matrices are the biggest part of computer graphics

JohnPoison

@Nickolas Game Engine Architecture

Veritas

15:52

is that the one from naughty dog?

JohnPoison

yep

Veritas

great book

JohnPoison

It's the best book I've ever seen.

Veritas

I am not sure if it applies for most indie developers though

the game development gems series is also great

JohnPoison

@Veritas maybe you're right

Nickolas

15:55

@Veritas I have good linear algebra books but I'm interested in the math background, I've read Math for 3D game programming and it contains mostly matrix transformations and is quite simple for me.

@JohnPoison thanks

JohnPoison

@Nickolas there are a lot of complicated (for me) articles about physically based shading. BTW what about this pbrt.org ?

Nickolas

@JohnPoison I've downloaded the book but haven't read it yet, seems very interesting maybe Ill get it second hand

:)

Veritas

well it's a great book so get to it when you have the time

JohnPoison

@Nickolas Game Engine Architecture covers basics in terms of math, but It gives deep knowledge about how programs work at the low level, how to write efficient code for games and etc. If you're interested in programming it would be interesting for you

Nickolas

@JohnPoison Since I'm also interested in programming I'll definitely give it a try, due to my math background I would love to see how advanced math apply to computer graphics, thus the question for the book reccomendation

Almo

17:21

maniac-games.com

new site up

SpartanDonut

17:34

Nice job

Joe

whack a mole! nice

Stack Exchange

17:53

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Almo

@SpartanDonut thanks, todders. :)

@Joe :)

Joe

hows it going today everybody

Almo

I made that long ago, but it's still pretty fun if you're looking for a pure reflex challenge

not great for me; pneumonia again, didn't sleep last night

Joe

throw that on mobile

Almo

needs adjustment for mobile

Joe

17:57

seems like a perfect game for the platform

Almo

it's too fast to have your finger covering up parts of the board

but I'll probably make a version some time that addresses that issue

Joe

hmm... you could make a "mini map" idk if that works?

Almo

still have to make Lane Blaster, Cognizer, Crystal Shuffle and Match-M

lots and lots of protos to get made into full games

Cognizer is probably next. we'll see

With LowDown actually going out the door soon, my motivation will probably pick up.

though I still have to write the store text and get screenshots together and stuff

after that, I hit the submit button :)

Joe

nice man do it

Almo

well i better try to get some sleep

will talk later ;)

Joe

18:03

hagn

man animated pixel art is really setting the bar high... contemplates scope cut

Leathe

18:41

animating pixel art. not even once.

Wardy

20:08

hey guys

@Almo did you get my messages ?

Almo

I got them, and I downloaded the zip, and looked at how some of that worked

thanks

Wardy

I stripped it right back so you could just see the code that was needed for the page

i also used the correct html 5 tags instead of legacy tags

Almo

heh yeah

html 5

Wardy

well your doctype suggested that it was html5 but you didn't use anything that was html5

so it was basically just a html 4 transitional page

Almo

right

Wardy

20:12

I don't really know what browsers you wanted to support so I figured lets just get it showing what you wanted first

worry about browser specifics when you were happy with it

Almo

yeah :)

Wardy

most of the time a simple broswer specific css class or shim can fix it

I would look in to using modernizr

it essentially looks at the browser and sees things like versions and feature support then adds a class for each one to the html tag

then you can simply put in styles like this in your css ...

html.ie8 section { ... stuff for ie 8 ... }

its pretty cool :)

Almo

:)

Wardy

shout if you need any more help with it though ... this is what I normally do (day job) the game programming thing is just my hobby

Almo

ok thanks :)

Wardy

20:18

here's my latest problem

that's the "chunks" of my planet laid out

i generated this in 8 chunks (as you can see) but the chunks shouldn't be in this order (they arent when on the meshes)

Almo

looks cool

Wardy

it would be if i could get the right textures on the right portions of the planet

look at the top middle pair

they line up ... but are supposed to be rendering on opposite corner meshes of the planet sphere

Ali.S

it's quite funny, searching for "sword art offline" will only give results about "sword art offline" but google doesn't warn about it's correction

Wardy

should it ?

google isn't a smart engine

it doesn't understand data it just knows how to index it

Ali.S

it's seems bing doesn't have this issue, at least most of it's results contain the word offline

Wardy

20:35

engadget.com/2015/03/13/cortana-ios-android

probably because there's some cortana behind bing :)

google and google now aren't that integrated

OMGtechy

they are for me

I am still interested to check out cortana though

Wardy

@OMGtechy huh ? they aren't full stop ... everyone gets the same stuff on the cloud

OMGtechy

I get content related to what I've been doing recently on my google account

Wardy

I get the impression that googles search tech is basically just used as a source of informaiton for google now

OMGtechy

If I search a person, it pulls their contact information off my google account

Wardy

20:38

with cortana / bing I get the feeling that neural networking is the core guts of a single platform

OMGtechy

it predicts where I live and work based upon googles location data

Wardy

if that makes sense

OMGtechy

there is a lot of google behind google now :P

Wardy

I read somewhere that the guys behind siri created cortana too

pocket-lint.com/news/…

OMGtechy

have you tried cortana yet?

Wardy

20:41

I have it on my phone

OMGtechy

any good? :)

Wardy

the current version is dumb as shit ... basically about as smart as google now / siri

ok with simple stuff like "whats the weather" or "call X"

I want smarter though ... stuff like ... "i'm going to san fran on the 15th for 3 days, make sure I have everything I need ... build a list and attach to my calendar"

anyhting beyond about 5 words will lose the current gen of personal assistants

OMGtechy

that's what cortana is advertised as being able to do, shame

Wardy

apparently cortana should be getting a massive update around autumn time which should be able to add a more human feel to her

OMGtechy

unless it's due an upgrade soon and that's what they're advertising maybe...

aha seems so

Wardy

20:44

That's what i'm really waiting on

apparently microsoft have been quoted in the news as saying stuff like "it will likely take google / apple 6 to 12 months to catch us up"

Oliver Schöning

21:00

Shesh.. What a terrible method I just created xD

this.startGame = function () {
	  	setTimeout(function(){
	  	setTimeout(function(){
	  	  start_countdown_sprite.setTexture( textures["countdown_2"] );
	  	  setTimeout(function(){
	  	    start_countdown_sprite.setTexture( textures["countdown_3"] );
	  	    setTimeout(function(){
	  	    	start_countdown_sprite.position.x = 5000;
	  	    	is_paused = false;
	  	    }, 1000);
	      }, 1000);
	    }, 1000);
	  }, 1000);
	};

Kevin van der Velden

Wow

I... I'd create a simple chaining thing just to fix that

I think you can justify that

Oliver Schöning

xD

I think I will leave it. As a memento

Almo

@OliverSchöning :o

Oliver Schöning

"a moment of shame" I will call it :p

Ali.S

@Wardy @OMGtechy I've never actually used any of those (though my phone is lumia 920) but then again, checking all the comparisons, it seems cortana is a bit smarter than others

Wardy

21:03

@Ali.S I agree ... when she understands you

her voice recog aint great though ... atm

Ali.S

I mean those which were published on youtube...

Wardy

@OliverSchöning evil man!

Ali.S

only comparing voice recognition, it seems google now is far ahead

Wardy

yeh ... that's my thought too

Oliver Schöning

@Wardy I know. It's awwful!

Wardy

21:04

@OliverSchöning you should be shot on sight for damaging our eyes with such dreadful code

Ali.S

but it's just google being too good, I mean cortana seems to be acceptable too...

Oliver Schöning

Hahahahaha. I am truly sorry @Wardy . It's shameful to say the least. So many better ways to write that

Wardy

I get the feeling microsoft are thining that cortana's autumn update will be a game changer

@OliverSchöning as long as I'm not expected to ever maintain that I guess I can suffer with just seeing it

still ... evil, evil man!

Oliver Schöning

@Wardy I SWEAR that is the only callback hell in my code. I really do. I just felt like doing something dumb :p

Wardy

haha

sounds like denial right there

Oliver Schöning

21:07

Haha!

Well. I can't see other places I even use setTimeout :p

The good news is. This is the first game I am actually gonna finish making :p

Almo

:D

Wardy

well it is js ... that suggests there's some reasonable hell in there at least once every 100 lines or so :)

Oliver Schöning

Ok.. I have to change that code. its to awful to look at. Ill leave it in a comment

Wardy

brb ... gonna have a crack at a win 10 install

Oliver Schöning

@Wardy hohoho :p

Wardy

21:12

@OliverSchöning ROFL

horrified by your own creation

Oliver Schöning

haha!

I like making this game. My gf is doing the graphics haha :p good times

I suck at graphics ;_; ...

TheMuffinCoder

21:36

So sad... I just realized that... sniff I missed Pi Day... I was looking forward to that day all year but got distracted this week with League Of Legends

Wardy

22:06

ok that wasn't too bad

fairly painless

figured it was time I started messing with win 10

meh still don't like IE

back to chrome I go

SpartanDonut

I don't think Spartan is in the previews yet right?

Wardy

don't look like it

pcworld.com/article/2891438/…

im guessing that means within 2 weeks

Lokkij

It may not be everyone's cup of tea, but I think Having Lots Of Sex With Men In Video Games: Part One is pretty funny. (also it obviously contains somewhat NSFW text)

Wardy

that's better ... a real browser :)

right then ... priorities ... VS and unity

visualstudio.com/downloads/download-visual-studio-vs

wow thats cool

I was just thinking "where the hell do I get VS ... i have a key but no iso"

due to my nas dying last month

great that ms just give the iso away like this :)

Ali.S

22:38

staggeringbeauty.com

Wardy