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Jovito
Jovito
12:00 AM
sup
 
Joe
Joe
man my cousin was in town from California... we did a last minute all nighter down in atlantic city but I now know how Danny Glover feels in lethal weapon
 
Jovito
Jovito
Have you guys played any of the Mother series games? There's a new one coming out this year made entirely by fans.
It has been in development for quite a long time, so you've probably heard about it.
 
Joe
Joe
@Jovito I haven't & haven't heard
 
Jovito
Jovito
Check it out, looks pretty awesome.
 
Chris
Chris
12:15 AM
the composer of that emailed me the other week asking if I was looking for any music work done
his stuff sounds pretty rad
hopefully Nintendo doesn't do a cease and desist
 
Jovito
Jovito
yeah
 
SpartanDonut
SpartanDonut
Still can't blame them if they do
 
Jovito
Jovito
Still everyone will.
 
Icy Defiance
Icy Defiance
Nintendo has a reputation for being strict about how their stuff is used. I wouldn't count on them letting anything go.
 
SpartanDonut
SpartanDonut
IP law is the worst.
 
Chris
Chris
12:18 AM
Pokemon Planet is ranked #6 on IndieDB, came out in October supposedly
http://www.indiedb.com/games/pokemon-planet
still standing
 
Icy Defiance
Icy Defiance
I mean, it's totally their right, but it's still annoying
 
SpartanDonut
SpartanDonut
It's not their right... it's really their obligation
There are potential negative repercussions if they don't
 
Chris
Chris
I remember a thing from Nintendo saying they take each thing on a case by case basis
they see some value in certain fan-made things
 
Icy Defiance
Icy Defiance
Riot is cool. They're just like "if you use our stuff, then other people can use your stuff, as long as they make significant changes to it" and that's about all there is to it
oh yeah, and no asking for payment, unless it's through ad revenue
 
SpartanDonut
SpartanDonut
Having publicly available rules on derivative works would be a good idea. Unfortunately most default to "you can't unless you get explicit permission"
 
Icy Defiance
Icy Defiance
12:21 AM
actually I misread the first half...
if you use their stuff, then they can use your stuff, but 3rd parties can't
 
Joe
Joe
unbeknownst to you, you are infact an unpaid employee of riot lol
 
Icy Defiance
Icy Defiance
nooooo D:
 
Chris
Chris
does "Weapon Wheel" sound better than "Item Wheel", even though the wheel can hold potions?
 
Icy Defiance
Icy Defiance
12:46 AM
Wheel of Fortune?
 
Chris
Chris
:)
 
Almo
Almo
1:00 AM
Inventory Wheel
 
Icy Defiance
Icy Defiance
♪ ohh the wheel in the sky keeps on turning ♪
 
Veritas
Veritas
wheel of fortune sounds cool
 
Icy Defiance
Icy Defiance
1:16 AM
I was joking. Wheel of Fortune is a TV game show, at least in the US. one of the older ones that is still running.
 
Pip
Pip
ey all
 
Jovito
Jovito
There is a similar one here.
 
Veritas
Veritas
wheel of fortune is the name for the wheel of fortune
 
Pip
Pip
Anyone know how to add a screen to the left in win8.1?
 
Veritas
Veritas
not really a show name
 
Pip
Pip
1:17 AM
I can do right side, but not left which is super obnoxious
 
SpartanDonut
SpartanDonut
No... pretty sure it's a show name
Your other comment may also be true
 
Icy Defiance
Icy Defiance
@Pip hit start and search for display settings, then drag/drop the monitors in the order you want them
 
SpartanDonut
SpartanDonut
but it's definitely a show name
 
Pip
Pip
thanks Icy
 
Veritas
Veritas
yea this didn't come out right
 
Pip
Pip
1:18 AM
whoo, works
 
Icy Defiance
Icy Defiance
that monitor thing is actually easier in 8 than in 7. one of just a couple places where I like the metro changes they made to control panel stuff.
 
Veritas
Veritas
Wheel of Fortune (Tarot card)
Wheel of Fortune (X) is the tenth trump or Major Arcana card in most Tarot decks. It is used in game playing as well as in divination. == Description == To the right is the Wheel Of Fortune card from the A. E. Waite tarot deck. A. E. Waite was a key figure in the development of the Tarot in line with the Hermetic magical-religious system which was also being developed at the time, and this deck, as well as being in common use today, also forms the basis for a number of other modern tarot decks. The Wheel Of Fortune card, like other cards of the Major Arcana, varies widely in depiction between Tarot...
 
Pip
Pip
Yeah, I like it. Annoying that there's no link to it on the win+p hotkey
 
Pip
Pip
1:31 AM
Hahahahaha
 
Icy Defiance
Icy Defiance
damn it I'm being tempted to start playing EVE for a 4th time...
 
SpartanDonut
SpartanDonut
I think I'm officially done with that game
 
Icy Defiance
Icy Defiance
last time I quit because I got busy, not because I was bored, but now I'm not busy and I need something to put time into
it'll probably be EVE unless I find something else
 
SpartanDonut
SpartanDonut
I quit because every time I start playing something else always sounds more interesting
that reminds me
 
Veritas
Veritas
not keen on such online games
I prefer strategy ones
I think I am going to download Dofus again
 
Icy Defiance
Icy Defiance
1:45 AM
I like strategy in real time. Civ was pretty boring to me, but LoL and SC2 are awesome.
actually, I should download SC2 again and try that. I only played it for a few days, then forgot about it.
 
Veritas
Veritas
ah Dofus is like
think final fantasy tactics
 
SpartanDonut
SpartanDonut
Starcraft 2 is amazing but even the bronze league requires a ton of skill to get out of =/
 
Icy Defiance
Icy Defiance
lol yeah I didn't get anywhere near good enough to do pvp there
 
SpartanDonut
SpartanDonut
Your base mechanics just require so much of your mind
 
Icy Defiance
Icy Defiance
I liked the concept, but didn't practice much. I figured I would finish the campaign before trying to figure out the details needed for pvp, then never got to that point.
 
SpartanDonut
SpartanDonut
1:47 AM
Yeah I'm the opposite. I was more interested in the online play than the campaign
 
Icy Defiance
Icy Defiance
me too but I figured the campaign would introduce me to the unit types and all that, lol
 
SpartanDonut
SpartanDonut
Spoiler alert -> Campaign has units that don't exist in PVP
 
Icy Defiance
Icy Defiance
D:
 
SpartanDonut
SpartanDonut
Not really a spoiler... but a fun tidbit based on your intentions ;)
 
Icy Defiance
Icy Defiance
lol actually, I can't access the account I bought SC2 on, so maybe I won't download it again
 
SpartanDonut
SpartanDonut
1:50 AM
I want to say Wings of Liberty is free now.... I don't remember what happened but some free to play thing sounds familiar
"Starter Edition" I guess is what they have - us.battle.net/support/en/article/…
Not as good as I remember so nevermind :)
The big thing is you can mod the game and play mods for free I guess
 
Icy Defiance
Icy Defiance
yeah, looks like pvp is out with that, so I won't bother
 
Almo
Almo
@SpartanDonut yeah that
@SpartanDonut and no firebats in pvp
 
SpartanDonut
SpartanDonut
No firebats, medics, laser tank things, etc.
 
Almo
Almo
Ok, pending getting some screenshots togehter, I'm ready to submit my game
 
SpartanDonut
SpartanDonut
oh boy oh boy
 
Almo
Almo
1:54 AM
but as I'm pretty sick with pneumonia, I'm hitting the sack and finishing that tomorrow.
talk later guys
 
SpartanDonut
SpartanDonut
feel better soon
 
Almo
Almo
thanks :)
 
hasherr
hasherr
2:10 AM
Trying to write the tablature for this song...
 
Sword
Sword
2:44 AM
good morning
What would be the best bet to implement the relative velocity concept . I have my main car and it moves at a speed . for other cars ,I've used translate function with a magnitude of their speed minus my car's speed , but the problem is that when it moves out of screen , it vanishes forever..
 
Sword
Sword
3:39 AM
ok I got it...
 
 
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Mutch95
Mutch95
6:42 AM
Hallo
 
MickLH
MickLH
7:21 AM
hi
 
 
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William 'MindWorX' Mariager
William 'MindWorX' Mariager
8:26 AM
Is it possible to make a define in Visual Studio that is only taken into account in the designtime error checking?
Something like ... 
#ifdef __EDITOR__
// do stuff
#endif
 
 
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Kevin van der Velden
Kevin van der Velden
9:28 AM
What language? C#?
 
JohnPoison
JohnPoison
9:51 AM
morning
 
Kevin van der Velden
Kevin van der Velden
Morning
 
Chris
Chris
greets
 
William 'MindWorX' Mariager
William 'MindWorX' Mariager
@KevinvanderVelden C++
I made it work with the _DEBUG define.
 
Pip
Pip
10:23 AM
yeah, you can do that :D
 
user92578
11:14 AM
Whats a use case for the #ifdef _DEBUG? I can't think of any cases where you would need one.
 
Soapy
Soapy
 
Pip
Pip
@Tyyppi_77 when you're debugging :D
Basically code surrounded with a #ifdef will only be part of the compiled executable if the term (in this case _DEBUG) is defined.
 
user92578
I know that
 
Pip
Pip
@Soapy Most of us have already followed that
@Tyyppi_77 that's it :D
 
user92578
But "designtime error checking"?
 
Pip
Pip
11:30 AM
google it bro
no idea what Mindy meant
 
user92578
Anyways only one class left and then it's devtime again!
 
Pip
Pip
Noice!
 
Mutch95
Mutch95
What even is programming
 
Chris
Chris
that's a good question
 
Mutch95
Mutch95
11:55 AM
I haven't programmed for 6 months
 
Pip
Pip
12:07 PM
lol
 
Mutch95
Mutch95
school sucks
first party the other day
 
Pip
Pip
it does
 
Mutch95
Mutch95
that was good
 
Pip
Pip
cool
 
Almo
Almo
12:22 PM
"Waiting for Review"
 
Pip
Pip
nice!
 
Almo
Almo
so about a week from now, it should go live in CA for testing.
:)
 
Pip
Pip
nice
I'm about to start my A-Z Dota Champion list with a friend
we're dual-offlane or dual-safelane all of the heroes in alphabetical order
so, starting with me playing Abaddon and him playing Alchemist
going to be great
 
Almo
Almo
hahahah
have fun :)
 
Kevin van der Velden
Kevin van der Velden
12:58 PM
@William'MindWorX'Mariager yay you figured it out, I usually add an extra define in the debug configuration for my projects. That way I can make it compatible with other compilers, and it's explicit
(Also, I can create a release version with the debugging information for alpha/beta versions)
 
Pip
Pip
So quiet on Sundays and Mondays :D
 
Sword
Sword
@Pip and the Java chatroom is vibrating with messages..
 
Almo
Almo
yeah Java is so hard lots of questions to ask
;)
 
Pip
Pip
lol
Java is easy (but annoying to deal with)
 
Almo
Almo
i don't know java I couldn't honestly comment
 
Sword
Sword
1:09 PM
@Almo ubisoft use which language?
 
Almo
Almo
depends on the project
usually C++
 
Sword
Sword
have they opted for Java ever?
 
Almo
Almo
I think scripting for FarCry was LUA, but that's CryEngine, and it may be because of that.
not that I'm aware of
I can't think of any reason to write a console game in java
and a few why you wouldn't
 
Sword
Sword
But it would be one of the best deals for android , right?
 
Almo
Almo
android users don't pay
droid aps make 5-10% the revenue of their iOS equivalents (so I have heard from several developers)
and Ubi doesn't make phone/tablet games much (if at all)
 
Sword
Sword
1:12 PM
ohhh huge gap..
yes they do
Battle Of heroes
 
Kevin van der Velden
Kevin van der Velden
@Sword why would you opt for a language completely inefficient for making games?
I mean
You can bash two sticks together and make minecraft
But that runs horribly
 
Sword
Sword
Most of the tutorials were using Java for android
 
SpartanDonut
SpartanDonut
Is Java really that bad for game dev or are we all just saying things based on the way things used to be?
I'm not knowledgeable on languages at a technical level but, for example, what makes C# a better language for game development than Java from a performance perspective?
 
Kevin van der Velden
Kevin van der Velden
@Sword well yes, because java is the main thing that runs on java
You can go to the native sdk, but even then you'd need a java wrapper IIRC
 
Sword
Sword
@KevinvanderVelden Is Java to programming languages for games as Internet Explorer is to browsers??
 
Kevin van der Velden
Kevin van der Velden
1:15 PM
@Sword no
Because programmers are generally smarter than that
Oh, to your new question: no not really, the problem is that java is designed for a thing and that thing is not making games
IE is designed for displaying webpages, it's just also really good at serving exploits and errors
 
Sword
Sword
could anyone link me to creating multiple sprites using arrays in Java.. I guess I'm stuck with that part.. :(
I've got one in mind, kilobolt.. I guess he spawns multiple sprites.. how could i forget..
 
Kevin van der Velden
Kevin van der Velden
Creating multiple sprites using arrays?
Do you want Sprite[]?
 
Sword
Sword
yes, for example I want a sprite to spawn after a certain interval. So I keep adding those sprites in an array and update their behaviour in a for loop
@KevinvanderVelden yes
 
Kevin van der Velden
Kevin van der Velden
Sprites do not spawn
Sprites are rendered
An entity can spawn, and it can point to a sprite to be rendered
 
Sword
Sword
sprites/enemies XD
 
Kevin van der Velden
Kevin van der Velden
1:20 PM
Different thing
 
Sword
Sword
i think I'm doing it horribly
 
Kevin van der Velden
Kevin van der Velden
A sprite is a bunch of pixels
 
Sword
Sword
enemySpriteList = new Array<Texture>(10);
 
Kevin van der Velden
Kevin van der Velden
They have no position so rendering them would always be at 0,0
 
user92578
Y U no classes? :D
 
Sword
Sword
1:20 PM
I am using classes!!!
 
user92578
well entity classes
 
Sword
Sword
yes
One for main character
 
Kevin van der Velden
Kevin van der Velden
Note: While I agree the use of "structure of arrays" over "array of structures" can lead to an improvement in performance. This does not really apply in languages like java
 
Sword
Sword
One for Enemies
 
user92578
so why are you not storing those in an array?
 
Sword
Sword
1:22 PM
@Tyyppi_77 this
 
user92578
does not answer to the question "why?"
 
Sword
Sword
Yes I am , but I am confused on how to store them
 
Kevin van der Velden
Kevin van der Velden
@Sword a texture is not an enemy
A texture is a description of what you render
An enemy has a texture, it also has position, ai, health, weapons, etc
 
Sword
Sword
and a badass Laugh..
 
Kevin van der Velden
Kevin van der Velden
Plausible
 
Sword
Sword
1:24 PM
i think the soniss package should have that
 
Kevin van der Velden
Kevin van der Velden
All things a texture does not have
It should
It definitely should
After all, what game is complete without a good evil laugh?
 
Sword
Sword
Yeah but texture will eventually be stored as a sprite. mySprite = new Sprite(texture);
gtg , will be back in 20 mins.. I just have a couple of doubts on how to store them.. Java is confusing me.. was so easy in python :(
 
Kevin van der Velden
Kevin van der Velden
@Sword it's no different in java than in python
Not a single difference
You just type different things, maybe
 
Pip
Pip
@Chris oh man, you're fuckin' game :D
It started fullscreen on the wrong screen
might have something to do with the fact that it's on the right side
 
Joe
Joe
good morning gdse
 
Kevin van der Velden
Kevin van der Velden
1:30 PM
Morning @Joe
 
Pip
Pip
morning Joe
 
user92578
morning
 
user92578
stupid philosophy question of the day: Why do we have two different sizes of letters to use? Why not just one? Why not three? Four?
 
user92578
like the romans only used capital letters
 
Almo
Almo
if you look at a bunch of text like this that mentions your name tyyppi, it isn't noticalbe. and when the next sentence starts, it's not so noticalble
But, Tyypi, when you use some caps, these things are more noticable. See how that works?
 
user92578
1:33 PM
yeah
 
user92578
so is it purely for making reading easier?
 
user92578
and why don't we have letters for semi-noticable stuff?
 
user92578
or really really noticable stuff?
 
SpartanDonut
SpartanDonut
like italics and bold ?
 
user92578
these are the things I spend my showering sessions thinking about
 
SpartanDonut
SpartanDonut
1:35 PM
Those aren't really letters
 
user92578
right
 
SpartanDonut
SpartanDonut
But it's for emphasis
among other things
 
Kevin van der Velden
Kevin van der Velden
According to the wikis
 
Christoph
Christoph
@Tyyppi_77 also take a look at a good book about typography, it may sound boring as hell but Bringhurst's "The Elements of Typographic Style" is a really good read
It will show you lots about where the different letter families come from and how they evolved
 
Pip
Pip
huh, that's interesting
 
user92578
1:40 PM
yeah, thanks for the answers guys
 
Pip
Pip
big fan of that song
 
Almo
Almo
@Tyyppi_77 sure any time
 
Pip
Pip
for those non-spotify users
 
Kevin van der Velden
Kevin van der Velden
Also: there are 3 types of case in general use: Upper case, lower case and small caps (which is upper case letters scaled to lower case size)
 
Christoph
Christoph
@KevinvanderVelden they are not just scaled, that would look crappy for most fonts. They are a completely different design
the small caps, that is
 
Kevin van der Velden
Kevin van der Velden
1:47 PM
Eh true, close enough =p
 
Sword
Sword
back..
I have a texture atlas , and 3 enemy images in them
So for the sake of simplicity , lets just load only 1 image and create various instances of it so that each object is added in the array after a specific interval
 
Kevin van der Velden
Kevin van der Velden
No
Why are you duplicating the image?
You don't need to duplicate the image, you just need to have your Enemy class have a reference to it
 
Sword
Sword
to create multiple enemies who look the same
 
Kevin van der Velden
Kevin van der Velden
You don't need to duplicate the image for that
 
Sword
Sword
You mean load the texture and sprite once , then keep on adding it into the array?
have a look at this. This is a game in python .. check line 266, i'm going to use a similar logic ..codeskulptor.org/#user33_SI1Z3fqlN7_4.py
and line 326 as well..
 
Kevin van der Velden
Kevin van der Velden
1:57 PM
No
Don't add it to an array
Make an enemy class, add that to an array
@Sword at work, not doing that
 
SpartanDonut
SpartanDonut
class Enemy
{
	Sprite sprite;
	public Enemy(Sprite spriteToUse)
	{
		sprite = spriteToUse;
	}
}


void Main()
{
	Sprite enemySprite = new Sprite("/path/to/sprite");
	Enemy enemy1 = new Enemy(enemySprite);
	Enemy enemy2 = new Enemy(enemySprite);
	Enemy enemy3 = new Enemy(enemySprite);
}
Some pseudocode for ya
 
Sword
Sword
ohh thanks,... but what if i need one to spawn after the timer runs out?
This spawns a limited number of enemies , right?
 
user92578
what?
 
user92578
just add a new one
 
user92578
array.Add(new Enemy(enemySprite));
 
Kevin van der Velden
Kevin van der Velden
1:59 PM
@Sword yes, it spawns 3 enemies
Because that is what it does
 
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