geez, java doesn't like linux as much as people say...took almost an hour to get it working

but now I have a minecraft server running on my laptop that I should be able to keep online 24/7, finally

instructions here if anyone wants to procrastinate and help me test it or something: icydev.net/new-minecraft-server

@IcyDefiance really? :S

I've never had any issues with Java on any platform

one of the few good damn things about it

it was easy once I actually followed the instructions instead of trying to extract the tar.gz with a gui, lol

the gui just fucked it all up

ah right

oh and I had to add it to $PATH, which wasn't in the instructions, but that only took 30 secs on google

well glad you got it sorted :D

I plan on wiping linux off my PC and sticking Windows 10 on there

here's to hoping my games work on it D:

they normally do a really good job of that to be fair

why not install both?

SSD space is limited

@Pip nice :D

I'm not sure if all your games will work on 10 or not. I'd think most of them would, but apparently the last league patch broke it on 10, so I don't know.

You know, it's pretty fun to get positive feedback on your game from the person who used to be your teacher in a game development class :)

a game developing class would be cool I think. I don't know of anything like that over here.

game development*

At... uuh, american equivalent would be college I think, there was an optional semester where you could choose game development

And one of my friends (who was in the same college but different education) kept friends with that teacher and now he's a friend of mine too =p

Living in Greece, I don't think there is a similar course in my uni.

kevin added anything new since yesterday?

Nope

Only the decision to make a proper version of it

Consider the released version a prototype =p

hmmm @Veritas interesting problem found

my mesh gen and my noise gen appear to be generating different regions

front left and back right in meshes obviously don't meet each other

I'm getting odd seams as a result because all my textures are jumbled up :(

not sure, I haven't seen the latest code

I'm reading up on haskell atm though so I can't help for a whole

while*

im not exactly sure what you could do tbh

some odd stuff going on with coord ranges

so my wife looks at the site (she's a graphic designer) and says "put a black bar there to divide things"

2 hours later, I still can't do this and not have these huge gaps either side of it.

seriously ?

border: 5px solid black;

I can remove the huge gap above it, but not below it

Can't figure out how to remove gaps between .rows eitehr

you get some really nice grid shit from bootstrap, but then details become a nightmare.

<hr style="height: 10px; background: #000; width: 100%;" />

throw that in the markup somewhere

that's across the whole screen though

I guess I don't get the problem

needs to restrict to 8 columns' width

you trying to remove the space above the logo?

so put it inside your div with that row class on it

the row class itself has huge padding on it i think

<div class="row">
   <hr style="height: 10px; background: #000; width: 100%;" />
</div>

the row class has a 35px margin on top and bottom

no padding

or just apply the styles to an empty row

what is the exact problem you're trying to solve, Almo?

so it's the margin i need to get rid of?

<div class="row" style="height: 10px; background: #000; width: 100%;" />

just a minute

@Almo Sounds like this:

god I'm so pissed off right now

stop being pissed off and tell me the damn problem >:|

@AidanMueller lol

thats typical css

@Almo If you're having problems, just be happy that ostriches don't fly...think about that for a second.

maniac-games.com/NewSite/games.html

this page

the black bar has these huge gaps around it

okay yeah, just set the .row margin to 0

only problem is it'll also adjust other rows

just "margin: 0px;"?

@Almo You could use negative margins.

so maybe give the bar div its own class

I have a special class for this thing

NEGATIVE MARGINS!

I got the top margin to go away but not the bottom one

this is madness

just putting "margin: 0;" in the row class should fix it

if not then something else is broken that isn't appearing on my end

ok will try that

almo you got issues here

'cuz doing that fixed it for me

@Veritas This is sparta!

you're not filling the space correctly

seriously just remove bootstrap its causing you headaches

yeah margin doesn't do anything

I'm glad to know that I'm not the only one who can't seem to get CSS to work.

are you changing the margin in the bootstrap css or your own file?

in my file

oh well there's your problem

.almo-black-bar {
    height: 3px;
  	margin: 0px;
	background-color: #000000;
}

i'm overriding it

okay, first, it's not using that class at all in the copy I'm seeing

        <div class="section">
            <div class="container">
                <div class="row">
                    <div class="col-md-8 almo-black-bar"></div>
                </div>
            </div>
        </div>

yeah i have to reupload

okay, that's the second problem. replace "row" with that class and remove it from the other div

well actually

the "margin: 0" needs to be on the row div

gimme 2 mins gonna rewrite this correctly

the other parts of that class maybe not

fuck it you know what

easy way out

must have col-md-8 for it to line up with the other stuff

ooh

getting rid of the row seems to have fixed it

yup.

so I use containers/sections instead of rows

so there's no padding

or margin or whatever

lol yeah I was just testing that, but chrome's dev tools weren't cooperating

for future reference, open the page with chrome and hit F12

ok

click the magnifying glass there, then select an element

except F12 is widgets in OSX

but i know what you mean

ok heading out for dinner

thanks for all your help guys

i love germans

As it turns out, confusing yourself and subsequently turning yourself into a tree can be an effective defense mechanism.

hug a tree, live another day

@almo how do you want these items laid out ?

under the black bar ?

Hug the tree.. love the tree.. become the tree.

suddenly am Maokai

now what

Swing your branches violently at your enemies.

currently my only enemies are in minecraft and I'm not a tree there

so...guess I'll just sit here

> You feel nature experimenting on you. Don't worry, failures die fast.

Hmm.

Probably not good.

@almo try this (when you get back)

hastebin.com/nosezumone.xml

pushed the full page to ccoder.co.uk/files/almo.zip

just in case you get issues

right im off ... later all :)

@Veritas pay attention to the bind operator

and return

i think i am getting the hang of it

Do you want a mini tutorial?

well sure if you have the time and you don't mind

but I think I can handle it

Well first of all, are you referring to Haskell monads or monads in general?

or some other monad?

haskell monads

Alright, so what have you worked out so far?

from what I have picked up they are a way to chain operations