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7:00 PM
actually for my games, which are 2D
I begun making tank game, but now I should make some levels
 
user92578
Aight yeah
 
It isn't ready
but I should test
 
user92578
I used Tiled for the first 6 months or something of development
 
A lot of people like Tiled, I haven't tryed it
 
user92578
But it was really annoying to use it
 
user92578
7:01 PM
I needed way more features
 
Also I begun making level editor 1 month ago, but it wasn't...Hm idk..
 
user92578
And a custom level editor always does exactly what you need and want
 
yea
 
user92578
This is where I started:
 
user92578
 
7:04 PM
hehe, nice!
 
Sie
Can someone ELI100 why this ram is cheaper than average? ebay.com/itm/…
It says in the title "Only ECC Server Reg Memory ram" which I don't quite understand.
 
Jon
must be installed in an HP server
 
Sie you should save up for some DDR4 :D
I have 2 of these newegg.com/Product/…-na--na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076‌​&PID=3938566&SID=
 
Sie
How big of a difference is it compared to DDR3?
 
Jon
first of all you need a z170 chipset to support ddr4
or an expensive x99 chipset
 
user92578
7:09 PM
@Jon GORB needs volume settings atleast for PC
 
Jon
aye
good point
 
user92578
not sure if mobile needs though
 
Jon
could be useful for lowering music
 
user92578
true
 
Sie
@Jon Already have one. According to Asus it only supports DDR3/DDR3L though.
 
Jon
7:11 PM
eh what board?
 
Jon
aww fuck man you got the p version?
 
Sie
I was letting a friend help me and I wanted to shave off some of the cost. It was a bad move :/.
 
Jon
yeah its a totally derped board
it also has onboard video...
waste of money right there.
your friend isn't very helpful
 
Hi guys, Let's say I'd create a visual novel game which contains bloody scenes/violence can I release it in Google Play? If not then where?
 
Jon
7:13 PM
Yeah man you can release that
you have to state there is blood and is for mature audience
 
thanks m8
 
Jon
Google will apply the rating on your game
 
Sie
Like I said I'm not too computer savvy. However everything runs great and I like it. Just wish I could do DDR4.
What about DDR3 vs DDR3L?
 
Jon
i got the z170-a
the L is just a voltage indicator
It means your board can support low voltage ram
 
Sie
Well given my setup I guess upgrading to 16GB is the natural way to go?
 
Jon
7:17 PM
how much ram do you need? hehe
 
Sie
I don't really have the need or want to do a whole system rebuild.
 
Jon
do you have an SSD drive for your main?
 
Sie
@Jon Just for general use. I noticed when running Chrome, Killing Floor 2 (ram hog), and other stuff it gets close to maxing out.
Already got an SSD main.
 
Jon
one small issue with upgrading your existing ram, is that you usually buy ram in pairs
to take advantage of the dual channels -- pretty sure your board only hsa 2 channels
 
Sie
Why not just buy two 8GB sticks?
 
Jon
7:19 PM
You are gonna want to try to match the CL speeds
or buy 2 new sticks
 
Sie
I was planning on buying two new sticks and putting the old ones in my old rig that I use as a media center.
 
Jon
also
with your board, you will not want to do crossfire even though it supports it
total waste of money
 
Sie
Why is that?
 
Jon
you only have 1x16 and 1x4
your secondary card would run on 4 pci lanes
massive cripple
 
Sie
So the mobo would bottle neck the [potential] performance gain?
Ah that blows.
 
Jon
7:23 PM
You would get almost no gain adding a new card
 
hey Sie why don't you save up for a complete upgrade? :P
You can get my build
So far I can say its awesome, can't wait till I get my 1080 for the performance to skyrocket
 
Jon
next time you build a PC, make sure you check with us
 
Sie
I just "upgraded" last October. It works great for the Vive and my purposes though for now.
I only do new builds like every 4-6 years.
 
lol same
 
Jon
same.
 
Sie
7:24 PM
I do some component upgrades inbetween though.
 
My last pc was like in 2012
 
Jon
built to last
since I stopped buying AMD video cards that is
 
Sie
I meant 1080ti lol.
 
nooo dont get the 980ti
oh lol
Or you can get a 1070 for less
@Jon Well the rx 480 might be a game changer here
 
user92578
@Jon this might be a stupid thing, but I failed Dispenser 2 many times because it sucks having to estimate how many blocks are left in the dispenser
 
user92578
7:26 PM
Could you add a counter on top of the progressbar?
 
Sie
Maybe but AMD has been getting murdered by Nvidia for awhile now. I want to love AMD but they simply can't keep up. However I hope they can catch up because having Nvidia monopolize the market is even worse. Like Microsoft with the internet all over again.
 
Jon
lol, so the progress bar is shit then
 
user92578
Well it's a nice looking progressbar
 
user92578
It's just that you can't really tell from looking at the progressbar how many actual blocks are left
 
Jon
but the point is to show you how much gas is left
 
user92578
7:28 PM
Yeah I understand that
 
Jon
right, my point is , it is not doing its job
If you can't tell
I guess it only shows you when it stops -- and not how many it has
Which I personally kind of like -- but I can see how that makes it more difficult
 
user92578
This might just be me sucking at estimating
 
user92578
 
Jon
hahaha my son had a hard time too
 
user92578
I personally would perhaps add a label like that or something
 
Jon
7:31 PM
i will :)
thanks
 
@Jon Mick came through on that music
 
Jon
That music is perfect for the game
 
yeah
 
user92578
yeah that's nice music
 
Jon
He keeps dodging me though
fucken dude pulled that off in like 10 minutes
I said hey you should make me a whimsical song, and linked an example. and he pasted this like 10 minutes later
 
7:32 PM
Music is awesome but its so hard to make o.O
Good thing I'll get around by saying there's no sound in space :D
 
user92578
Yeah I can make these okay-sounding actionish songs
 
user92578
Can't come up with a thing for the menus
 
Jon
you kidding?
your songs are awesome man, and you can say you made everything
by yourself -- who the hell can say that?
 
user92578
i guess not a lot of devs, thanks<3
 
Jon
The guy that made Cave Story
and you
 
user92578
7:33 PM
dude you're making me blush
 
Jon
haha, there are a lot more
flappy bird
and emmmm.... possibly stardew valley??
 
user92578
but what my main point was that menu music is hard for a game like mine I find
 
Jon
I really like what you made up to now
 
Sie
Just about finished up with some artsy fartsy garbage. I'll post some pictures here.
 
Jon
And my son sees your screenshots and wants to play it
He really likes broforce so...
 
user92578
7:35 PM
oh that's awesome to hear, yup definitely my target audience then :)
 
Jon
well just so you know he has been asking for a demo
chop chop dudee
 
Sie
Crunch time.
 
user92578
I could probably give a demo like tomorrow, the game is semi stable
 
user92578
It's just lacking in levels, I only have an okay amount of prison levels
 
@NaCl me back! Sorry I had to run for dog hospital. Ty for the code. It looks really cool regardless of it being good or bad.
 
user92578
7:36 PM
But who knows, maybe I'll send you a demo
 
Jon
level creation... is hard. :)
send me a stable sometime
i'll let you know what he says
no rush
he's got games
 
user92578
haha
 
@BlueBug It's just bad design, not necessarily "bad code" :D
If you need help to customize it, feel free to ask again
 
user92578
yeah it's just that I prefer doing actual works towards GL instead of testing the game on all possible computers I can find in the house
 
@Jon you heard of the 200 dollar new graphic card that's worth 400 bucks?
 
user92578
7:39 PM
oh and this is probably a really annoying suggestion, but I think you should continue the black line on top of the dispenser sprite to separate the border from the pipes and the yellow part
 
Jon
@BlueBug no?
@Tyyppi_77 ehh.... reading that again...
ah
Yeah
I can do that
Honestly the dispenser looks like shit
 
Jon
I whipped it up in like 10 minutes
 
AMD Radeon​ Rx480
 
user92578
naw I think it's nice otherwise
 
Jon
7:41 PM
RX480, yeah
 
user92578
just continue the border everywhere, probably the front part too
 
Jon
I am not a fan of AMD cards... high power, high temperature
@Tyyppi_77 thanks
 
I were advised to buy that one
 
Jon
i'd go with 1070 or 1080 right now
 
the link is the suggested build from reddit/r/buildapc
 
Jon
7:42 PM
lol, well if you can only afford a 200$ card, that is the way to go
I heard the RX480 is really good
I wouldn't get it
 
Crossfire RX480 is godlike
 
Sie
I would still save up for a 1070 or 1080. Unless you really need a GPU this minute I would hold off.
 
But I need the stuff Nivida has (cuda and such)
 
Jon
nvidia for life.
unless they start to suck badly
then fuck that.
 
Sie
I like their products but not the company.
 
Jon
7:44 PM
haha, yeah they can be jerks
 
Sie
Proceeds to buy 1080
 
gtx1070 1080 are 600~800
 
Sie
According to some amazon reviews the the 1080 (the original) has pretty shite cooling though.
 
Jon
ah yeah? depends on the brand though
there isn't one manufacturer
nvidia specs out the card and sells the chips and shit -- other people build it
 
Sie
Why is it so hard for them to make a decent cooling setup? They designed the fucking thing lol.
 
7:45 PM
600~800 just for g card?... I can't afford...
 
Jon
the cooling from my understanding is all done by the manufacturers
 
Sie
@Jon I thought they made the first batch and then let the manufactures come in and improve upon the cooling/general design later on.
idk how it all works though
 
yea they make the founder edition one
the FE one has pretty bad cooling but the custom ones are awesome
 
Jon
asus ROG edition
 
I got this one from newegg
 
Sie
7:47 PM
I love my MSI 980. I know it's such a cheesy feature but I do love being able to make the lights do some funky stuff.
 
Jon
Jealous...
 
Sie
Finally.
 
Jon
i'm sporting a gtx960
waiting for the 1060, :)
 
lol why
 
Sie
Clearly this is a WIP look but this should give a general idea of what I'm working on art wise: gfycat.com/SophisticatedMiserableGiantschnauzer
 
7:48 PM
wait for the 1070 ti :D
 
Jon
haha yeah, waiting for price of VR headset to come down
also waiting for next consumer gen
I'm rarely an early adopter, due to price conflicts.
I have fucken bills to pay. basicallly
 
well Im a still a highschool student so Im bill free for now :D
 
Sie
So what do you guys think? Kind of trying to go for a world made entirely out of paper. Almost like a kid made it and you're playing through it.
 
Jon
pic
 
Sie
1 min ago, by Sie
Clearly this is a WIP look but this should give a general idea of what I'm working on art wise: https://gfycat.com/SophisticatedMiserableGiantschnauzer
 
7:50 PM
@Sie Paper or cardboard?
 
Jon
ah cool
 
I seen paper games like this before
 
Jon
cardboard
 
Jon
holy shit
that game sells itself
 
Sie
7:51 PM
@TheMuffinCoder Cardboard is made up of paper.
 
user92578
hmm @Sie sure, looks cool, but needs some sort of an explanation why I seem to be inside a cardboard box
 
lol yea but the style was what I meant
 
user92578
currently I think I'm like a mouse and the game is mouse simulator 2016, exploring a cardboard box
 
I am noob when it comes to building a pc. Why is NVIDIA gtx card good?
 
Better drivers? More support? Higher performance?
 
Sie
7:52 PM
@Tyyppi_77 The game isn't exactly going to be story heavy. Hell in Mario you are plopped into a world where you are told to murder turtles and animals to save some princess.
 
Better drivers? for programming?
 
Jon
lower power consumption
 
Lol that times 100
 
Jon
lower operating temperatures
that is the main selling points
They also have game release day driver support
 
@BlueBug I dont think GPU matters that much for programming
Isn't the CPU more important in such case?
 
Jon
7:53 PM
AMD usually rolls out a week later
 
user92578
@Sie well then you need to add a roof to the level
 
Sie
Currently the "story" goes something like: You are trapped in a kids made up world, and you must escape. k thx bai.
 
user92578
then I won't wonder what's outside
 
I am thinking of 950 vs 960 vs 970. My first build. Which one should I go for?
 
Jon
do you want to play games? @BlueBug
Or potentially do some VR?
 
Sie
7:53 PM
@Tyyppi_77 Ya. Mainly just blocking out stuff and working on general QOL crap.
 
games... um ...VR? virtual reality? Like HTC Vive?
 
Jon
yeah
if you are not going to play intensive games, you are not gonna need more than a 950
if you are gonna do VR, you might want to consider a 1070 :)
 
Sie
Ya for VR I'd suggest a 1070 or 1080. I only bought the 980 because I couldn't waste time waiting on nVidia.
 
Wait Blue why dont u get a 980 ti?
They should be pretty cheap soon
 
980 ti?
 
7:54 PM
Everyone selling theirs to get a 1080/1070
 
Jon
If you are not playing games, you don't need it... thats is all there is to it
unless you are coding AAA titles
 
Sie
Why buy a 980ti? I'd save up and get a 1080. Or better yet wait for the inevitable ti edition.
 
I would too
But Blue seems to be sticking with the 900 series
otherwise I would just get a RX480 that are mad cheap ($200)
 
It is budget friendly but I can stretch far if I am convinced.
 
Jon
the RX480 is a very good card
 
7:56 PM
And for the price, its awesome
Get a second one and it beats the 1080 too
 
Jon
well hold on
that depends highly on the rest of her setup.. and also, yah right
 
user92578
i stumbled upon this
 
user92578
 
Jon
wtf
 
user92578
someone was saying that my truck looks like a toy truck and makes the game look like toy story
 
Jon
7:59 PM
oh fan art???
 
user92578
naw I got pissed and made that
 
Jon
i have fan art
 
user92578
LOL
 
@Tyyppi_77 make this as easteregg, but with less copyright-problematic-implications
 

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