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6:00 PM
if you replace the ink when the manufacturer said to it would cost a bomb in ink
 
The first printer I had lasted like 10 years.
Well maybe more like 6 LOL.
 
Jon
my first printer is still printing
in hell!!!
 
A long time though. After that I got about a year out of anything I got.
 
my first printer lasted a long time
 
My advice is buy a laser printer. I've had much better luck with this laser printer we've got (3+ years now) than the many inkjets I've been through.
 
6:01 PM
ive never really bought a printer for me
I just print stuff at work
 
Jon
^
we have a plotter at work
 
Well I have a laser printer, but it seems to have something personally against linux.
 
Jon
i can print out huge posters
 
dot matrix
 
@Jon one of my mates printed off the background image for my previous fish tank
 
Jon
6:02 PM
 
that was a 4ft lump o paper
 
Jon
yeah, these are pretty awesome.
 
thats the jobber
 
Jon
but $$$
better idea of the size.
 
yeh he works in a design office where they design new aircraft components for the ministry of defence
 
6:02 PM
It gets the signal, it warms up, my computer says it printed, but nothing comes out.
 
they always print part schematics and such so plotters are ideal for that
 
Hola
 
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
 
OOOOHHHHHHH
 
HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHA
 
6:11 PM
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAA
 
HHHHEEEEEEEEEH
 
Omg what did I start
 
Ruined it
 
well I walked in at a strange time
 
AS USUAL
 
win+r type mspaint<enter> -> This app can't run on your PC
wat man
 
ahaha
 
Yeah, their shows often started withsomething that could be construed as normal programming, only to be interrupted by one of them saying that
 
win + type paint<enter> -> works and is less keys? :P
 
and it's not GIMP
 
6:18 PM
[Window Title]
paint

[Content]
Windows cannot find 'paint'. Make sure you've typed the name correctly, then try again.

[OK]
oh, right, win
not win+r
 
Right - as in search your programs for it lol
 
but I'm so used to it and I can't stand the delay that my hdd gets up to the speed to find the app cache
 
@Lasse windows key > type "paint" <enter>
 
yes, Wardy
 
@Lasse have you tried pressing the windows key, typing paint, and then pressing enter?
 
6:23 PM
@Lasse have you tried to type mspaint.exe
 
@SpartanDonut yes, it still takes like 10 seconds
@Hjorthenify it does not matter
 
Works on my end
 
@Lasse it was a joke because wardy repeated what i said
 
user image
4
 
@Lasse classic
 
6:25 PM
 
-1
Q: Call a method on many Objects in a List C#

VinnieH01I've got a list called wheatTiles it contains many Wheat objects. The Wheat class got a update method. Im doing this to cal the update method at the moment : public void Update() { wheatTiles[0].Update(); wheatTiles[1].Update(); wheatTiles[2].Update(); wheatTiles[3].Update(); ...

WTF!
 
AHAHAHAHAHA
 
@Wardy Linq / Lambda's isn't common knowledge honestly
 
^
 
@Wardy .ForEach() is a List<T> method. won't work on an array or IEnumerable. :P
 
6:28 PM
although loops are
 
Loops certainly are yeah
 
"What do you mean Wardy?"
 
@IcyDefiance question specifically says "list of"
foreach(var t in wheatTiles)
   t.Update();
there ya go purists !!!!!
lol
 
It's not about being a purist lol
It's about "wtf use linq duh obviously" type comments :P
 
oh and List is capitalized in the title. I figured he meant array considering he doesn't know what a loop is yet, lol.
 
6:30 PM
linq is banned on ios
because apple does not support JIT which linq requires
because reasons
 
@Lasse like apple sucks
pretty good reason
 
that's great reason
 
hang on a minute
linq does not require jit ?
 
the apple hating pitchforks are really getting worn out. we should buy new ones.
 
using roslyn you can pre compile to native
 
6:31 PM
but unity, lol
old mono from 2011
 
@Lasse that's almost as bad as apple
almost
 
unity is actually an apple
so evil
 
Huh. I was not aware it is possible to open the unity docs in VS.
 
ooo
 
well, VS has web browser in it
 
Joe
6:37 PM
speaking of evil... what is best place to buy windows? no this is not a sick it joke... I'm literally looking for the most affordable windows 8 installation
 
go to college, get a dreamspark account, and download it from there ._.
 
^
 
MLM
@Joe I have heard of this: reddit.com/r/microsoftsoftwareswap - never used it but...
 
Joe
I went to college once, I wonder if my old id still works
 
Dreamspark does give a full copy of Win8?
 
6:39 PM
yeah, I got mine from there
 
@Joe Pirate windows 7/8 - Update to windows 10 for free
 
How did I miss that?
 
nope, can't update to win10 for free from pirated copies
 
@Joe buy a pc
itll come with it
 
MLM
@IcyDefiance I heard you could (recently). Something to do with China
 
6:39 PM
or you can download the win 10 tech preview for nothing
you can do a clean install of win 10 for nothing off the iso
 
Joe
so I'm going legit... I want to pay for my first version of windows
I just am cheap is all
 
@MLM it won't turn into legal copy
 
@Joe you can buy licences directly from microsoft online you know
failing that there's always amazon and the like
 
Joe
but full price is for suckers
 
MLM
@Lasse From what I have heard, it would. They want to unite everyone. A lot of Windows copies in China are pirated
 
6:41 PM
you can download win10 still. there's no way to stop that. it just won't be a legal copy, like lasse said. you won't have an actual license.
 
Joe
true
 
@Joe if you can suffer the issues for a few months then win 10 may be the way to go
@IcyDefiance win 10 is free to all windows insiders
 
Joe
well if i own win 8 ill get a free upgrade to 10 no?
 
Pip
yep
 
my install was not an upgrade from 8
 
Pip
6:41 PM
you have to upgrade to 8.1 first
 
nope
 
yeah win8 owners will get a free upgrade to 10
 
Pip
 
the windows 10 iso directly from microsoft allows a full install from no OS on the machine
FREE
 
MLM
@Joe /r/microsoftsoftwareswap seems like the best way to go. Windows 8.1 for $20
 
6:43 PM
@Lasse Aww, only if your school has enrolled in the program or something. :(
 
Joe
hmm
 
I'll have to wait for uni to get it.
 
they have cleverly worded the sales blurb to make you think you need a win 8 licence
 
6:43 PM
This is why windows 10 is going to be god
 
Joe
@MLM im leaning towards it because $199 for windows download is insane microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/pdp/Windows-8.1-Pro/…
 
@Hjorthenify nah Win8 was good. people just didn't like the UI being different. change is inherently bad to people who hate learning.
 
@Wardy are you talking about the preview or something else?
 
Win10 is better though.
 
Pip
6:44 PM
I like Win8, personally. I'm going to have to try Win10 sometime
 
my sister really liked 8
she hates windows
 
@IcyDefiance Windows 8.1 spend a lot of resources on the GUI and background apps which Windows 7 didn't, which is why I don't like it.

Also the GUI is too user-friendly for my taste :P
 
@SpartanDonut yeh the preview ... microsoft have not yet announced any form of pricing for win 10
 
Win 8 had a lot of niceness, unfortunately - it came out not too long after I bought 7 sooo I wasn't paying for an upgrade.
 
Pip
@IcyDefiance get that cmake file working?
 
6:45 PM
@Hjorthenify Win8.1 is more lightweight than Win7 in every single way I care to pay attention to. I'm not sure what you're talking about there.
 
I like windows 8.1
 
win 10 is basically 7 with a bit of 8 and cortana
 
Pip
cool
 
@Pip yeah I just had to tell glfw to compile dependencies. they set it up with a simple ON/OFF toggle and for some crazy reason it was set to OFF by default.
 
Pip
@IcyDefiance lol
I bet you could have manually specified that as well
 
6:47 PM
glfw: god-less fuck-wit
 
I just added a line to the root cmake file setting it to ON. the first time a variable is set overrides all other time it's set, which is probably by design, just for situations like this.
 
@IcyDefiance Have you tried upgrading from windows 7 to 8 on a PC you used on a daily basic? Because I experienced severe performance decreases even on a fresh install.(old OS had been used for 2 years)
 
@Hjorthenify yep, on 2 different computers, and both had pretty large performance increases.
faster boot, less memory used by the OS, faster program startup times, etc, etc
 
@IcyDefiance Must be a hardware problem then. Oh how I love that excuse.
 
Pip
lol
 
6:49 PM
could be hardware, especially toward the beginning of its lifecycle. some people were reporting driver problems and comparing it to Vista that way.
I didn't see any of those driver problems, but... vOv
 
I also quite liked Vista lol
 
lslslslslslsssllslslslssllsslsl
 
Pip
Lessons In Love by Kaskade is pretty good
enjoying Spotify Radio a lot
 
yeah I liked Vista too
but I only used Vista on relatively powerful computers
on a laptop I probably would've hated it
 
I only used Vista on a relatively powerful laptop :P
But yeah
The netbook stuff that took off since then wouldn't have survived
 
6:54 PM
like, that OS wouldn't even run on less than 1.5 GB of memory or something like that
Win7 cut that down to 0.5 GB
 
@pip
 
Pip
yes?
 
I pressed space and my pc decided to bother you..
 
There was something stupid about it... like if you were on 512 it turned off anything fancy and worked fine. If you were on 1GB it didn't work, and higher than 1GB was fine again
 
Pip
:D
 
6:55 PM
What I was about to say was: Really? Because I always get shitty music from a whole different genre when I use the radio
 
Pip
I don't, it's been pretty decent for me
If there's any music I don't like, which there usually isn't, then I just dislike and it skips it for me
 
Well if I dislike then it goes to mainstream-crap music(the even worse Danish-kind of mainstream)
 
Pip
lol
 
Joe
man alot of good starred messages today
I have book marks to read, on my train ride tonight
 
Pip
:D
 
7:20 PM
What's up @Pip?
 
Pip
Not too much, reading quora/etc atm
 
Quora?
 
traitor!
 
Pip
Going to spend time working on Envio later, might write my first dev blog post if I have time. Later I'm headed to robotics to prep for competition Thurs/Fri/Sat, then going to work on my SFML wrapper some
 
Subtle hints in the RPS article about Pillars of Eternity:
> “But John!” you cry, “I want to watch them to get an idea of whether I want to buy the game!” Ah, well, like I said, I’m not able to tell you at this point if THE GAME IS REALLY GOOD or not. So you’ll just have to continue not knowing if IT’S DEFINITELY WORTH GETTING for a couple more days.
 
Pip
7:21 PM
lol
@IcyDefiance I've answered a bunch of Unity questions in the past few days, I'm good for now
I like to answer questions on GDSE during APCS, gives me something to do
 
Sounds like fun!
 
don't look at the word "answer" too long. it looks really stupid
 
Pip
yeah
same with "drawable"
 
I answered a question a couple days ago
first time in...quite a while
it was horrible
 
Pip
same
 
7:23 PM
@Almo Yes you will look really stupid staring at a word for too long
 
hahah :)
 
@Almo most words do. I've noticed this as a programmer... for some reason.
 
Jon
what is this a world staring contest?
 
"bed" looks like a bed.
lamP looks like a lamp if you flip it 90 degrees...ish.
 
7:26 PM
Oh wow.. Aren't unexpected bugs the best? imgur.com/wxyNf1g
 
Jon
no.
 
@SpartanDonut :)
someone going for world record longest hearthstone turn
43 hours, estimated
that twitch stream is live
 
Jon
lol.. wow... i remember beating chaos in Final Fantasy 1... the battle was like 45 minutes
43 hours is just fucked up
 
How can a turn take that long? You just leave the game open? :P
 
Jon
7:29 PM
spoiler, that is chaos
 
it's 7 copies of a mage who doubles damage, a spell with slow one point per animation, and the enemy has a "don't die this turn" secret up.
@Hjorthenify ordinarily a turn can't last more than 90 seconds.
so just leaving it on won't work
 
Why would you want to double damage?
 
user4704
To force the one-point slow animation to play more?
 
Oh. So you're allowed to use it 7 times more?
 
you put out 7 copies of the mage
that doubles the damage 7 times
 
7:32 PM
Yes. So the anim plays 7 times more.
 
no
 
-.-
 
they're cumulative
it's roughly 26k damage
played out one point at a time
 
Jon
lmfao
exploiting stupid shit
 
the original card deals 3 damage, I think
the guy who doubles the damage is a priest card... and the damage card played is a mage card
needed a special thing that picks a random creature to cast for you, get lucky and get that guy, then do some shit to make copies of him
probably required collusion from the other player
 
Pip
7:35 PM
probs
 
Well that's a stupid world record then :D
 
pretty much all world records are stupid
 
Have you guys seen this: ign.com/articles/2015/01/26/…
 
Jon
no.
 
Pip
lol
 
7:37 PM
Funny thing is that the game reaches far more players than at the world record, monthly.
 
Jon
you know what is even funnier to me?
 
looking for a new screen what do you guys think ofthis one ...
 
Jon
People give a shit.
looks like a solid monitor
$?
 
little under £600 (pounds sterling)
 
Jon
lots of real-estate with 2560x1440
 
7:42 PM
roughly $850
 
Jon
i wonder why it is not taller
 
its adjustable
 
Jon
actually n/m
 
oh you mean pixel res
should be UHD really
 
Jon
its the same ratio as a 1080p
 
7:43 PM
I was intending on buying a UHD but can't find any that will perform right given that number of pixels
 
math question
 
Jon
math questions are offsensive.. i'm flagging
 
No no, the flagfest was earlier today
 
root(9) is +/- 3, is 9^1/2 +/- 3 or just +3?
@Jon aha
 
@Jon rofl
 
7:45 PM
+3 makes sense to me
 
Jon
root(9) in what context?
 
@OMGtechy it's both positive and negative
 
dammit
 
@Jon going from the ^1/2, square root
 
Jon
oh
 
7:45 PM
when I saw root I mean square root
yes
 
@OMGtechy it's because square root is the inverse of squaring, and both -3 and 3 squared are 9
 
I understand that, but I don't know why ^1/2 is
root(9) = +/- 3 makes sense to me perfectly
 
Jon
9 ^ 1/2 = 3
 
x^1/2 = root(x)
 
I was hoping there was a subtle difference
I don't see how a positive number raised to a positive power can be a negative number
 
7:47 PM
i prefer: sqrt(x)
 
as for literal square root, it makes sense
 
@OMGtechy because "to the power of a half" is square root, "to the power of a third" is cube root etc
@OMGtechy well you can't raise things to negative powers
So that's out
 
@KevinvanderVelden I've seen negative powers before
 
It just seems to be like there's a subtle difference
 
7:50 PM
Huh
It's a thing
 
yeah
 
Jon
heh
 
@OMGtechy between? n^(1/m) == m-root(n)
 
Jon
The question he was asking was why is sqrt(9) = -/+ 3
 
no
no it wasn't
 
Jon
7:51 PM
ok, because that doesn't make sense
 
I totally get that
it's why 9^(1/2) is +/- 3 and not just +3
to say it's square root seems like a maths shortcut that misses the real reason
 
Jon
but in terms of programming Pow(9, (1/2))
it will be 3
 
yeah I get that, I mean from a pure maths point of view :)
 
Jon
yeah, i don't like getting into theoretical math
 
reason I'm interested is because I keep seeing ^(1/2) in equations where only the positive result is desired, and it makes sense to me for it to only be positives rather than +/-, so now I'm working out if it's just coincidence or my intuition is correct
i.e how can 1^0.1 be a negative number
for 1/10
 
Jon
7:55 PM
i think if you know your data, you shouldn't have to worry about it
 
@OMGtechy one can't
 
I lose sleep over such things :P
@KevinvanderVelden ?
 
Uuh wait no nvm, ignore me
 

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