The Heap™ – Consultancy ©® - 2019-10-17 (page 2 of 2)

Paul White

11:00 AM

At least that was well thought through then

George.Palacios

We're still running on decades old tech

ConcernedOfTunbridgeWells

I suppose you could install some sort of backup system that uses GPS but you'd have blind spots in the comms. To make that work you would have to install a comms network on the lines.

George.Palacios

We're no Japan, that's for sure

ConcernedOfTunbridgeWells

@George.Palacios London: best infrastructure money can buy - in around 1890.

Paul White

I wonder how the military cope with only having GPS

ConcernedOfTunbridgeWells

11:01 AM

@PaulWhite They probably don't have to worry about leaves on the track.

George.Palacios

ha

Paul White

snort

Anyway, the poms have a undeserved reputation for whinging so I'll ease up

I do think having more blue sky would help

ConcernedOfTunbridgeWells

No, it's totally not undeserved.

George.Palacios

It's totally deserved

Paul White

I may have employed sarcasm

Tom V

11:03 AM

@PaulWhite By adding GLONASS and Galileo

Paul White

Ooo check out the big brain on TomV

He'd make the trains run on time

ConcernedOfTunbridgeWells

Almost as big as that orange guy's

George.Palacios

@ConcernedOfTunbridgeWells Mr Tickle?

ConcernedOfTunbridgeWells

@George.Palacios Something like that.

George.Palacios

Paul White

11:04 AM

Veep seemed like a documentary to me

Tom V

@PaulWhite Yeah I wanted to post something serious in a joking conversation

Paul White

You smashed it

ConcernedOfTunbridgeWells

I suppose I should really try to do some paying work.

More dramas with the in-laws.

Paul White

To lighten the mood, here's today's resignation:

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Q: I no longer feel safe moderating this site

It's been just over five years since I joined the Stack Exchange network. I was awarded my fifth Yearling badge, over at Science Fiction & Fantasy, around a week ago. I became interested in the upkeep and moderation of the site not long after. One thing led to another, and I was appointed to mode...

I may not have lightened the mood. Sorry.

Peter Vandivier

Are you sorry though? Are you, really?

Paul White

11:10 AM

It's hard to tell isn't it.

ConcernedOfTunbridgeWells

Could be worse.

McNets

I'm using a TYPE as a parameter of a stored procedure, and I'm getting an error about user has no EXECUTE rights on it. But if I try to grant execute permission on a ROLE I got an error message like: Object cannot be searched 'type_name' because it doesn't exists or user has no permission.

Msg 15151, Level 16, State 1, Line 28
No se puede buscar el objeto 'type_grup_of' porque no existe o el usuario no tiene permiso.

Paul White

[mcve] -> Database Administrators

Tom V

@McNets A localized SQL Server install, really?

Every time I encounter a localized SQL install I want to smack whoever set it up

McNets

@TomV what do you mean?

by 'localized'

Paul White

11:15 AM

Not in English

Tom V

@McNets Error messages in Spanish instead of English

McNets

o yes

Andriy M

@TomV Would you really smack McNets if it transpired it was him?

Paul White

I think we all would?

Tom V

I usually don't know who set it up, so it's easy to be angry at some imaginary infrastructure monkey.

McNets

11:16 AM

@TomV I don't set it up

Andriy M

@PaulWhite I don't know. I might want to but I probably couldn't.

McNets

I don't understand why I need to grant permissions to use a user defined TYPE as a parameter

Paul White

@AndriyM How about if I gave you a wet haddock to slap him with?

Andriy M

Remotely controlled, preferably

Paul White

The best kind

Andriy M

11:19 AM

Then I'm quite open to the idea

Tom V

I never quite got the idea of slapping someone with a fish. There are so many better things to slap someone with that don't get your hands dirty. Also who carries around a fish for the occasion they want to slap someone

ypercubeᵀᴹ

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A: Monica's situation continues unresolved, is SE hoping the problem just goes away?

Ok, here's where we're at: As noted in David's apology, we created a lot of the problems in play here by not following process. So now we need a process to follow for handling issues involving moderators that our existing process didn't seem right for, and also we need a process for what to do w...

( from Shog9 ^^ )

Andriy M

@TomV I once saw a documentary that showed how you can carry around a chicken to slap people with. Although I think they also suggested you would need to wear some kind of medieval plate armour for that.

Tom V

Slapping someone with a catfish makes a lot more sense

Paul White

Monty Python - The Fish Slapping Dance

►

Tom V

11:27 AM

@PaulWhite I know that scene, but was that the origin of it?

I remember it happening in comic books when I was little too

Asterix for example

Paul White

@ypercubeᵀᴹ Oh good I was hoping for another long comment chain to read

ypercubeᵀᴹ

@PaulWhite at least is the post is from the other side, for once

From SE I mean and not the (various sides of) users.

Paul White

@TomV No one knows

Andriy M

leatassiewriter.com/2018/05/13/…

Paul White

Wikipedia:Whacking with a wet trout

For newcomers (or for a less spammy version), use a {{minnow}}, {{diet trout small}} or {{trout small}}. For a styleable version that can, e.g., be floated the right of talk page posts, use {{minnow}}. For not-so-subtle adjustments, try a {{whale}}. For a group of users, try {{multitrout}}. Any Wikipedian who wants to advertise an openness to being trout-slapped can add {{trout me}} to the top of their user page for a topicon or {{Wikipedians open to trout slapping}} for a banner. == History == The following is not intended to be reliable encyclopedic information, although it is as accurate an...

George.Palacios

11:32 AM

Meanwhile, the damage from Sara's inappropriate defamatory accusations continues. The longer that goes unchecked the harder it is to fix. :-( — Monica Cellio yesterday

Paul White

11:42 AM

why do I read the comments

George.Palacios

It's your endless urge to delete them

Keep your friends close.... etc

Which comments specifically, might I ask?

Paul White

all of them

most I agree with, but that doesn't make reading them any better an idea

ypercubeᵀᴹ

12:23 PM

@PaulWhite deleting the SE account means you lost your network profile, too?

Paul White

@ypercubeᵀᴹ No I still have a meta.se account but it is 'hidden'

ypercubeᵀᴹ

ah

Paul White

I also have an area 51 profile for some reason

ypercubeᵀᴹ

Slack has a dark mode now

Paul White

Does it still consume all machine resources when idle

George.Palacios

12:31 PM

@PaulWhite Somehow it consumes more

Paul White

That is dark indeed

Peter Vandivier

any postgres pros 'round these parts have a recommendation for a feed to pay attention to for 2ndQuadrant technical updates? the repmgr 5.0 release borked a couple of our builds and I wish I'd have noticed it in advance

the twitter account looks suuuuper spammy and the google group looks like... well... google groups 😬

George.Palacios

@PeterVandivier those are definitely all words...

Peter Vandivier

the important word is "borked"

George.Palacios

Ah. Like a dog. I get it

Peter Vandivier

12:41 PM

exactly

yw

George.Palacios

I have a friendly borker at home

Peter Vandivier

@Philᵀᴹ wait... this is still season 1‽

Tom V

@PeterVandivier It's like Home and Away, there is a new episode every day.

Peter Vandivier

No, it's like the early 2000s Dune miniseries(es). Starts out disappointing and goes on for far too long

McNets

1:25 PM

Why a TYPE needs CONTROL permission to be used as a parameter?

And why Sql says EXECUTE permission not granted?

ypercubeᵀᴹ

off-topic ;)

McNets

arggggg ;)

Philᵀᴹ

2:14 PM

@TomV More like Prisoner: Cell Block H, with the crappy wobbling set and terrible production values

ConcernedOfTunbridgeWells

3:38 PM

@Philᵀᴹ That made it here?

Philᵀᴹ

Yeah, it was on at ~1am or something

ConcernedOfTunbridgeWells

He was amusing on Top Gear and Have I Got News For You. 15 years later we have this.

ypercubeᵀᴹ

4:06 PM

I've never seen Cell Block H. Was it popular in the UK?

ConcernedOfTunbridgeWells

@ypercubeᵀᴹ It's an Australian soap made in the 1980s, set in a women's prison.

ypercubeᵀᴹ

yeah, I was looking at wikipedia/imdb

ConcernedOfTunbridgeWells

@phil has seen it. I don't know how popular it was.

Neighbours was very popular here at one point. Even Shortland Street made it here.

Most NZ actors are either alumni of Shortland Street of LOTR.

Temura Morrison got his start on it. His dad was a pop singer big in the 1950s-60s and was CEO of TVNZ at one point.

The woman who played Bobbie Draper on The Expanse (can't remember her name) is a Shortland Street alumnus.

Neighbours got Kylie Minogue her start.

Fun fact: At one point there were plans to do a stage show of Doctor Who with Jon Pertwee and Kylie Minogue and Jason Donovan as companions. I heard this from Jon Pertwee at a con once.

Cade Roux

4:23 PM

Don't forget Home and Away!

ConcernedOfTunbridgeWells

@CadeRoux No. I think forgetting Home and Away is an absolutely splendid idea.

ypercubeᵀᴹ

4:53 PM

The PM of Portugal interviewed now on UK channel:

> Me concessions from both sides. One of the most important concession was made by Boris Johnson, accepting customs borders in the Irish Sea.

I wonder if he realizes how well that will play with the British, public and parliament.

Paul White

It seems unrealistic to label any of those three groups as a homogeneous whole

There will be widely divergent opinions within all of them

Any alternative to the "backstop" supported by the EU and Eire is an achievement

Whether it is enough, we'll see

Philᵀᴹ

5:11 PM

Now this is interesting. Basically it’s Oracle APEX for Postgres github.com/aquametalabs/aquameta

ypercubeᵀᴹ

@Philᵀᴹ nice, thnx!

Philᵀᴹ

5:54 PM

@ConcernedOfTunbridgeWells It was definitely an acquired taste

Peter Vandivier

6:18 PM

@George.Palacios @Philᵀᴹ lmk if you guys want to meet up. I've gotten a provisional shore leave from the wifey for a meetup 😄 I'll be up north mid-saturday thru early sunday with some obligations in Liverpool around 8 PM saturday

Evan Carroll

7:26 PM

jesus christ.

it is a pain in the ass to change a phone rom these days

Paul White

8:27 PM

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Q: Yet another step down as moderator post

It saddens me and breaks my heart in a lot of ways to do so, so I'd like to explain very briefly "why". Can't say much because I'd have to plagiarise George Stocker's resignation notice and he's already verbalised that brilliantly. It's been great being on this site (diamond or not)... I've h...

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McNets

Another one, how many moderator remain?

Never cruel or cowardly. Never give up, never give in. — Sotirios Delimanolis 27 mins ago

Whovians everywhere

Cade Roux

No tags for resignations?

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Zoe the transgirl

@McNets somewhere around 450-500 IIRC

McNets

@Zoethetransgirl thanks

Zoe the transgirl

There's over 600 positions though. There's quite a few mods spanning multiple positions

Paul White

8:54 PM

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A: Dear Stack Exchange: a statement and a letter from your moderators

Thank you for writing to us about this. This isn’t our final response here, but in the interest of being transparent and keeping lines of communication open, we wanted to respond with something as soon as possible. While this isn’t the answer you’ve been looking for, we wanted to update you on so...