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12:51 PM
@James Very slow reply and 100% agreed with Green. In fact if you could directly cross-site move files between websites that sounds like a security nightmare waiting to happen...
 
1:30 PM
Images and text (including URLs) aside.
 
2:10 PM
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@NexTerren Security is the bane of productivity.
 
3:10 PM
@James no, you are
 
@James You say that, but then script kiddies destroy your production databases and your backups, and you'll find security very helpful for productivity. :D
 
3:33 PM
@dot_Sp0T I can't argue with this...
@NexTerren Ugh. Fine.
 
3:53 PM
@NexTerren And this is why we can't have nice things
Hmm, it would be interesting to see if somewhere down the road you can create an AI that is able to handle security, and know that I'm me and give me full access, but when the black hat comes along the security locks down and keeps them out
basically active security instead of passive security
 
 
@AndyD273 It would be. Very interesting.
 
4:19 PM
@NexTerren Get on it you lazy ass.
 
@James Eh, I'll have an AI write it for me.
 
@NexTerren This is how humanity gets taken over by robots. Its not because we tried to play god, its because we were lazy.
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4:36 PM
@James The true downfall will be when someone gives cats thumbs, and they no longer need to keep us around to open food for them.
 
@AndyD273 Man, if we're worried about humans being lazy, I wouldn't be too worried about cats.
 
@NexTerren Lazy? yes. Psychopaths? Definitely. TV reference? Also yes.
 
@AndyD273 This sounds so familiar and yet I can't place it.
 
4:55 PM
@NexTerren There is a short story by John Scalzi called “Three Robots Experience Objects Left Behind from the Era of Humans for the First Time” that was turned into an episode of Love, Death, & Robots on Netflix. The cat is the punchline.
 
@AndyD273 Haven't read/seen that, so it must be somewhere else I know it from... hm.
 
The show is interesting. I'd read a few of the stories that they were based on, so seeing them brought to life was cool. Some of them are very mature though
 
5:31 PM
Anyone else watch Game of Thrones last night?
 
Notre Dame is burning
A once in a lifetime thing for all fantasy authors
 
5:54 PM
@dot_Sp0T I just heard of it from another chatroom. It's terrible.
Except for the puns that resulted.
 
@Hosch250 what's terrible about it?
 
> I guess it helps with the demolition work. #LookingOnTheBrightSide (pun intended)
> ---
> I wonder if Notre Dame is claiming #ThisIsFine
> I think you added an extra tiddle there. I heard they are claiming #ThisIsFire.
@dot_Sp0T I love old buildings.
 
I've tenderly dropped a 'Soooo..?' on one of the twitter threads about it and got shitstormed immeadiatly
 
LOL.
Serves you right, :D
 
Then I dropped a line about 900 years of time to make sure the building was better prepared for fires and/or other damages and about people having died building and and now possibly gonna die saving it
The whole situ really only highlights how most people don't care about anything around them until it's 5minutes past the point where it could be prevented
 
5:59 PM
Wanna take bets on the odds of someone just dropping a cigarette or something while working on it?
 
@Hosch250 don't think so, my money rather goes towards sparks or similar from cutting/grinding or such
or maybe even arsony
let's see what happens
 
@Hosch250 My money is on hunchback infestation...
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6:25 PM
@dot_Sp0T I mean... the building is art. Would you want the works of Picasso, Gogh, or Leonardo to go up in smoke?
 
@NexTerren Its pretty tragic.
 
@NexTerren if it makes people care about other people and their surroundings any more than now? yes, definitely yes
what is happening is shit
yet I hope it opens eyes
 
Well, with the cathedral, it can survive the fire, get restored, and still open eyes :D
Hopefully.
 
@Hosch250 Its going to be a smoking ruin, the tall parapet tower part already collapsed.
 
@James Oh no :(
Maybe they can rebuild? I mean, I hear they need jobs there...
 
6:29 PM
@Hosch250 Yeah, not great... :(
 
@James I found a new career for you. You can be a blacksmith at Ka-Bar.
;P
 
Media is filming wherever they can
 
> The church will get a renovation all right - a lot more than they bargained for
I wonder if they have insurance.
Much of the stone artwork should survive.
 
@Hosch250 One of the news things I was watching a second ago mentioned that the statues from inside the building had been removed last week because of the on-going renovations.
 
6:41 PM
That's good. I'm watching the live stream and was thinking about all the carved stone on the outside.
I'd be a bit surprised if those walls fell; they are probably more than 6 ft thick.
Rumor has it that someone set a blowtorch on the floor.
I was under the impression much of it was stone, though; what's actually burning? Clothes and wood decorations inside?
 
@Hosch250 Even stone buildings are framed with wood. At least generally. I've never been to Notre Dame
I would assume the roof is in large part wood.
 
rafters, floors and beams.
 
That's a huge building.
 
I am listening to the live feed while I work, its just video and the street noise. I definitely just heard a Frenchman say "shit..."
 
@James "Merde!"
 
6:49 PM
You all realize that this will be one of those things like the burning of the library in Alexandria, or the collapse of the great lighthouse that is just going to a historical fact point...
 
I still hope they can save the outer walls and foundation :(
Fortunately, much of it has been documented digitally in pictures and whatnot.
 
@Hosch250 Ditto, and the two bell towers up front are still standing.
 
Even if it's not fully rebuilt, just those pieces alone are cool.
 
The big round stained glass window is still in-tact too
 
That outer stonework is awesome.
It's practically beyond imagination.
I've never seen it this close.
 
6:55 PM
Hopefully the scaffolding doesn't collapse on top of it...
 
I just saw something large fall off the tall spire in the background :'(
It's hot enough that even the steel scaffold frames are on fire.
Man, that place is several blocks large. I don't understand how the whole thing went up that fast :(. It almost seems like deliberate arson.
 
7:11 PM
@Hosch250 Old things do burn quickly...as a general rule.
 
I suppose the wood is insanely old and dry.
Probably nearing 600 years old, since they don't use green wood to build, and they didn't have kiln drying back then.
If not older.
> The cornerstone was laid in 1163 in the presence of Pope Alexander III.
Holy cow, that wood is probably 1k years old.
That organ... Probably one of the few great ones left.
Most of the old great organs were burned, and here's another joining them :(
At this point, I'd say bring in the water bombing helicopters. The damage can hardly be worse, and they don't even have the damned fire contained yet.
The rest of the spire just went down.
 
I've heard concerns about dropping water - missing the target and hitting other structures/people, the possibility of hazardous materials that don't get along well with water, etc.
 
A) That is a danger, I guess.
B) They are spraying water anyway.
I heard they were worried about additional structural damage.
But yeah, A is probably a big enough danger they can't.
After this, the water damage is going to be enough to force them to replace the entire wooden structure.
You just can't flood wood in an already fragile state (due to age) like that and expect it to survive.
It'll swell and crumble, mold and rot...
 
7:44 PM
@James They said it spread to one of the towers.
 
7:58 PM
Looks like it's settling down some.
Still bad, but it doesn't seem to have spread for a while, it doesn't seem.
Ugh, they have one hose on the bell tower, and it doesn't look like it's getting better there.
 
@Hosch250 much of the stone artwork will probably be beyond saving, the heat and water will destroy the fine details
 
:(
 
Maybe the thoughts & prayers are helping the firefighters after all
 
I can't imagine what the inside used to be like if even the outside is so beautiful.
 
Weird day...
 
 
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10:59 PM
hey there @James
 
11:09 PM
@James it'll get worse
 
11:28 PM
It sounds like the main damage was to the roof, but the under-roof made of stone and much of the rest of it is left.
In a way, might not be too bad, since they can just rebuild now instead of repair, and that's always easier.
 

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