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01:37
@HDE226868 Any data on the Azores?
Once you put that in, I'll accept your answer
@JavaScriptCoder I actually just finished that.
Like the Canary Islands, there's a fairly poor trend.
@Shalvenay waves
A bit disappointing, but eh. One good result, at least.
Hey, you people like lasers in space, right?
NASA's going to launch one of those soon:
ICESat-2 (Ice, Cloud, and land Elevation Satellite 2), part of NASA's Earth Observing System, is a planned satellite mission for measuring ice sheet elevation and sea ice freeboard, as well as land topography and vegetation characteristics. ICESat-2 is a planned follow-on to the ICESat mission. It will be launched on 15 September 2018 from Vandenberg Air Force Base in California, into a near-circular, near-polar orbit with an altitude of approximately 496 km. It is being designed to operate for three years and will carry enough propellant for seven years.The ICESat-2 mission is designed to provide...
02:06
@HDE226868 thanks!
@JavaScriptCoder You're welcome! Glad I could help.
 
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05:43
hella
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Q: What would a reptile with Facial and Speech muscles look like?

user202315I have been wondering about how humans require facial muscles in order to be able to produce speech, mammals also have these facial muscles that could allow them to speak if they had the brain power to produce speech. Here is an image from the internet of a wolf skull and a human skull, along wi...

06:20
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Questions

user202315I have been wondering about how humans require facial muscles in order to be able to produce speech, mammals also have these facial muscles that could allow them to speak if they had the brain power to produce speech. Here is an image from the internet of a wolf skull and a human skull, along wi...

@HDE226868 update: I'm totally getting what the goal of your question is, I just don't understand the science behind your proposal anywhere close enough to even start judging it :D
07:20
@AndyD273 that's a good thing to quote the kid explanation on the draw
 
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Q: Is the World building forum less effective than using individual forums related to your question?

Clay DeitasIE, if I wanted calculate a twin moon orbit for a fantasy world that revolves around binary stars, would it be easier to just ask the physics stack exchange instead of the world building stack exchange? It seems to me like the world building forum is poorly defined in relation to such questions...

 
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12:55
@dot_Sp0T You know "hella" means "a lot," right?
Hi @Gry
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Q: Do "this question has not received enough attention" bounties work as well as we'd like them to?

AshI've answered a couple of bounty questions in the last couple of weeks, the bounty list was not something I'd had a lot to do with before. They seem to attract a lot of answers, which is the point, but a disproportionate amount of them appear sub-optimal, which can't be fun for the OP. The answer...

In the story-go-round, I'm thinking a shadow shows up (just written), and they think it's Hemdul given his history with bad control of the shadow.
Calming him down isn't working, and the shadow is right in camp, so they wake him up. (last part written)
I'm thinking he explodes to his feet and suddenly they have to deal with a startled Hemdul who almost knocks Niardul into next week and an angry shadow.
Meanwhile, the shadow is Jarilo's, who's dreaming about being attacked again.
It pulverizes the minerals, and when they wake her up, they are all sad about the powdered mineral. Brokhem sleeps through it, and informs them it's OK in the morning.
Or when his turn to stand watch is, or something.
Feel free to not use any of this material.
13:31
@Kepotx Yeah, I'm really glad that the teacher included that. Makes it more interesting to know what she was thinking when she did it.
@James So, uh, where's that awesome picture you were talking about?
@AndyD273 Hey!
Oops.
@Green Sup
@AndyD273 Tons to do today. Sup with you?
Not much. Hows the chemical reactor project?
13:42
@AndyD273 I think I'm gonna have to write my own simulator before I build it. i found a multiscale/multiphysics package that I can use but I still have to write a bunch of code myself.
@Green You have to simulate the chemical reaction? Or just simulate how the reactor will work to see if it does what you hope it does?
I need to simulate: chemistry, plasma, aerodynamics, electromagnetics, growth of the target product and the interactions between all those different fields.
They are all related but sometimes only loosely coupled. The chemistry happens on a time scale short enough that the aerodynamics are essentially stationary.
I don't have to (and shouldn't) simulate all aspects on the same length or time scales.
@Green What package is it, and what language do you intend to use?
@HDE226868 Moose Framework from Idaho National Lab and it's all done in C++.
14:03
@Green Interesting. I feel like I've heard of that somewhere.
@HDE226868 I've probably mentioned it before. Most likely in the Laboratory channel.
@Secret Chaos and law.
Nah, I have something more mysticism in mind for that
@Secret Bermuda Triangle.
But colloquially speaking, that is also known as The Unseen Realm
14:05
Truth and falsehood.
I express that in my painting by paint that with pure water, so it is only visible for as long the painting stays wet
What do the lines represent?
@Green @AndyD273 See^^
@James Is that your cliff city fortress?
14:08
Yeah
How do you get big sailing ship in and out?
that is a full sized sailing vessel going into a really large cave.
I still need to add the buildings that jut out from the side of the cliff all the way up
@James Wind isn't ever very strong in a big cave like that. How do they get back out?
nice crosshatching.
@Green Poles?
@Green They use tugs (rowboats, poleboats) to get the ships in and out of the cave
14:09
@AndyD273 For a thousand ton sailing ship? I'd believe winches.
@AndyD273 That sounds just a little racist :P
@Green You know that is a better idea. big chains on winches...
Except, isn't it Polish now, instead of Poles?
@James Stick with me :)
Technically, they didn't bring the big ships right up to dock anyway...
14:10
@Hosch250 But they are very strong
They used rowboats to transfer goods to the dock.
Leave the ship in the harbor, and use rowboats to bring the goods into the cave.
@Hosch250 Possible but much slower than just offloading directly from the boat to the shore.
There is enough pier space inside the cave for half a dozen full size ships.
They could even have a really long dock leading out to near the mouth so they wouldn't have to go very far.
(its a really big cave)
14:11
@Green They couldn't bring the big ships too close to shore either.
They didn't want them scraping anything.
@Hosch250 If the water is deep enough, they could but I don't think a sane captain would bring his big ship that close to a big wall that could flatten him.
Well, that^
@Green It helps when your city is predominantly populated by mages.
They could also row. Some ships did carry sweeps for calm harbors, though maybe not the biggest ships.
14:13
They don't bring them near anything, either dock or pier or cliff or bottom, that would smash them.
They use the little, more controllable, boats for that.
actually, its someone else that see the humanoid figure, I never had human in mind when drawing that
back later o/
@HDE226868 Man, these simulations are much harder than previous ones
14:15
(also, the reason why some of these colors are unlabelled is because I ran out of time and thus I switch from trying to lay out the magic narrative, to just trying to use all the colors)
I'm grid searching over such a wide variety of possible conditions, it is taking forever
and to make matters worse, the stuff I ran last night I accidentally started the planets orbiting the barycenter of the system, and not the primary star. Then I was wondering why the planets kept getting flung into deep space
!!help
@Pseudohuman sum_{a=1}^{\infty} 1/a^n
@Secret I do not understand.
so she's back...
go to sandbox
@FoxElemental not in my conlang
14:28
@dot I mean in English
@Pseudohuman Boiling temperature of water at sea level
@FoxElemental I do not understand.
@FoxElemental 100.3 °C (degrees Celsius)
@Pseudohuman !!help
@Hosch250 I do not understand.
Of course you don't.
@Pseudohuman Speed of light
14:29
@FoxElemental 299792 km/s (kilometers per second)
@James why not horses as been done at channels?
@Pseudohuman Acceleration of light.
@Hosch250 Failed to parse response
Haha.
14:31
@FoxElemental it's called sarcasm :D
Ash
Ash
@Pseudohuman Feigenbaum's Number
@Ash 4.669201609102990671853203820466201617258185577475768632745...
yuck another bot
@Pseudohuman Boiling point of water at 3000 meters above sea level
@Pseudohuman 1/0
14:31
@FoxElemental 90.24 °C (degrees Celsius)
@Hosch250 ∞^~
Ash
Ash
@Pseudohuman Boiling point of water at 3000 meters below sea level
Infinity to the tilde'th power?
@Pseudohuman identity matrix?
@Ash Failed to parse response
The identity matrix is a the simplest nontrivial diagonal matrix, defined such that
I(X) congruent X
for all vectors X. An identity matrix may be denoted 1, I, E (the latter being an abbreviation for the German term "Einheitsmatrix", p. 7), or occasionally I, with a subscript sometimes used to indicate the dimension of the matrix. Identity matrices are sometimes also known as unit matrices.
The n×n identity matrix is given explicitly by
I_(ij) = δ_(ij)
for i, j = 1, 2, ..., n, where δ_(ij) is the Kronecker delta.
Isn't there a Sandbox chat room for bots...?
14:33
there is; i usually refer people to it or their own chatroom unless a bot seems polished - this one seems polished
@Secespitus in theory SU has one tho its not used that much. @Pseudohuman is in a LOT of rooms tho
@JourneymanGeek I do not understand.
apparently someone has been inviting it to many rooms
@Pseudohuman Polypeptide sequence of calcitonin
@FoxElemental I do not understand.
14:34
Um
@Pseudohuman Define "understanding"
@FoxElemental I do not understand.
@Pseudohuman Alive
@Hosch250 Cogito ergo sum
@Pseudohuman Test
1 | verb | put to the test, as for its quality, or give experimental use to
2 | verb | test or examine for the presence of disease or infection
3 | verb | examine someone's knowledge of something
4 | verb | show a certain characteristic when tested
5 | verb | achieve a certain score or rating on a test
6 | verb | determine the presence or properties of (a substance)
7 | verb | undergo a test
8 | noun | trying something to find out about it
(13 meanings)
14:35
@Ash I use the 'not enough attention' bounty to get more views on questions primarily
It basically queries Wolphram Alpha and returns the response.
@Pseudohuman peanut butter
serving size 2 tbsp (32 g)
total calories 191 | fat calories 137
% daily value^* |
total fat 16 g | 25%
saturated fat 3 g | 15%
trans fat 12 mg |
cholesterol 0 g | 0%
sodium 100 mg | 4%
total carbohydrates 7 g | 2%
dietary fiber 2 g | 8%
sugar 3 g |
protein 8 g | 16%
vitamin A 6% | calcium 1%
iron 9% | vitamin E 25%
thiamin 2% | riboflavin 2%
niacin 22% | vitamin B6 14%
folate 12% | phosphorus 11%
magnesium 17% | zinc 12%
*percent daily values are based on a 2000 calorie diet
(averaged over different types of peanut butter)
ok, it's getting a tad out of hand
Sorry. I just did that as a demo (I found the source code and figured out how it works).
@Pseudohuman mobius strip
@Pseudohuman easter egg
Seek diligently and ye shall find.
(In fact, you just did.)
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Ash
Ash
@Pseudohuman Boiling point of water at 300 atm
@Ash (data not available)
Guys, can we stop asking the bot about the boiling point of water?
14:40
@Pseudohuman Translate "sesquipedalian" into Portuguese
@Pseudohuman What the hell are you?
@FoxElemental I do not understand.
@Secespitus Um, sure.
(expletive deleted) | I am not programmed to respond to this dialect of English.
Do you exist? | Cogito, ergo sum. (I think, therefore I am.)
@kingledion Heh. That would be do it.
14:42
So seriously what is this bot doing in our chat room. I'm starting to feel all Inquisition-y towards her/it
i.e. throw it into the pond
"Don't abuse me and I won't abuse you!"
Instead, how about we ban hammer it, like the close-minded biologicals we are.
@kingledion It's been here for quite some time. Someone invited it, I think FreezePhoenix?
Maybe I've seen too much Terminator, but I'm super racist against robots
No, wait, thats because I used to work for the NSA and I don't want robots in our chat rooms storing everything; yep, ban
Ash
Ash
@Pseudohuman AU in light seconds
14:44
@Ash Failed to parse response
@Secespitus Yes, I think it was Freeze
@Pseudohuman break()
@kingledion Failed to parse response
Ash
Ash
@Pseudohuman AU
@Ash 1.496×10^8 km (kilometers)
14:45
@Pseudohuman break()
@kingledion Let's not be speciesist
@kingledion I do not understand.
@Pseudohuman exit()
@kingledion Looks like it takes a roomowner to kick the bot.
@kingledion I do not understand.
14:46
@Pseudohuman killall
@James is a roomowner, no?
full name | Gary Kildall
date of birth | Tuesday, May 19, 1942 (76 years ago)
place of birth | Seattle, Washington
date of death | Monday, July 11, 1994 (age: 52 years)
(24 years ago)
place of death | Monterey, California
@Pseudohuman reboot
^^ That was unexpected
title | ReBoot
network | American Broadcasting Company | Cartoon Network | ITV | RTL 4 | Teletoon Retro | YTV
air dates | September 10, 1994 to November 30, 2001
episode running time | 30 minutes
seasons | 4
episodes | 50 (including 1 special episode)
14:47
Stupid bot; giraffe smash!
Who's operating the bot?
do we need to kick the bot?
@HDE226868 Jennasloan.
@Journeyman Opinions are divided
I donno why the bot is in a half dozen channels I'm in
@JourneymanGeek Please do so.
14:49
we talked to her about it on RA already
@Pseudohuman leaveroom
@Hosch250 I do not understand.
I've kicked it for now.
Gary Arlen Kildall (; May 19, 1942 – July 11, 1994) was an American computer scientist and microcomputer entrepreneur who created the CP/M operating system and founded Digital Research, Inc. (DRI). Kildall was one of the first people to see microprocessors as fully capable computers rather than equipment controllers and to organize a company around this concept. He also co-hosted the PBS TV show The Computer Chronicles. Although his career in computing spanned more than two decades, he is mainly remembered in connection with IBM's unsuccessful attempt in 1980 to license CP/M for the IBM PC. �...
That's a 1-minute timeout.
14:49
@HDE226868 Thanks.
Well, I did learn something, I guess
~$leaveroom 17214 is the command
not sure if we can do it
Ah, thanks.
It shouldn't be hard to give mods/room owners access to that command.
14:50
Oh, she back
@Pseudohuman ~$leaveroom 17213
@Hosch250 I do not understand.
/shrug
~$leaveroom 17213
It worked!
14:51
There we go.
The power of programming sigils compells you, foul bot
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Unless that was someone else doing a kick-ban
Although, it was temporary fun :)
also, we asked her to leave our room so I just looked up the command
@JourneymanGeek I was looking in the source, but didn't notice it.
I couldn't see any docs anywhere.
14:52
also, is that a GSD puppy?
Mine, yes.
Although, that picture is about 5.5 years old.
She's still bouncy and snuggly. She really likes hugs and kisses.
lol ya, sounds like my gran's giant slobbermutt
ya, no one seems to believe they're that fluffy as pups
though my gran's one is still kinda fluffy
Mine is a longcoat, which means her undercoat is thin.
And her overcoat is longer.
She also gets groomed daily, so she's usually pretty sleek.
my gran's one's a indian 'local' gsd
my aunt has a straightback, which looks kinda scruffy in the no nonsense sorta way
(they don't have the slope back the "standard" pedegree GSD has)
Mine has a straight back too.
It's more the show lines that have slopes. The working lines don't.
Ours are working line. The mom's side of mine worked on the Berlin wall.
FYI, if you are sick of SE's new stuff showing up, this'll fix it:
.new-contributor-indicator { display: none; }
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15:52
This new 'New Contributor' flag thing is scary
why is it scary?
Ash
Ash
@dot_Sp0T I don't know that I'd say scary, I think it's insulting for the users getting labelled with it though. It seems to suggest that they're less capable and/or more emotional fragile than experienced users.
@Ash well, it sort of helps pointing out people that might not be accusomted to our rules; but what you say is a triusm
one odd thing about this tag is it work on meta
Also, I'm pretty sure it violates GDPR.
15:57
@Hosch250 how?
They can't track that kind of stuff about users, I'm pretty sure. Or if they do, they can't reveal it.
wont work for me because i post some "answers" on sandbox, but you can have 1000+ rep user who is tagged "new"
@Hosch250 why not?
isn't it just when it's your first question/answer?
Because I think that was part of the stuff labeled sensitive information--how long they'd been using the service?
Anyway, meetings now.
15:58
GDPR does not forbid you to collect data on your customers/users
anyway, rep was already there to point that someone is probably new
@dot_Sp0T No, but it does forbid "leaking" it to other consumers.
GDPR is about laying open what data is used for, and forbidding you to track data that you do not need for the purposes of your service/website/company
@Kepotx No. I've seen it on a guy with about 10 answers.
@Hosch250 No it doesn't.
@Bellerophon I've seen it on a guy with 17 answers; it's a time thing
15:59
It only forbids leaking sensitive data.
Man I gotta finish that drawing, I wanna get up to 7.5k until EOW
Ash
Ash
@dot_Sp0T "forbidding you to track data that you do not need for the purposes of your service/website/company" I'd love to read the justification wherein we NEED to know this.
@Ash need to know what?
Ash
Ash
@dot_Sp0T How long someone has been with us, why do I, as a base level user, need to know that about anyone?
The amount of days since registering, and the amount of days you actively visited any network page, are used for statistics on the site usage; this data is not personal or anything - so GDPR does not really grip anyways
16:04
@Ash Part of the service involves displaying how long someone has been on the site. As such collecting starting date is an essential part of the service. Also what dot_sp0t said. It isn't personal data.
Say, data on from what IPs and Browsers you log into the site, etc. - that's GDPR stuff
Ash
Ash
@Bellerophon Yes and I've never understood why that is a datum that all users are privy to.
@Ash Because the owners of SE decided it should be.
Ash
Ash
@Bellerophon So no actual logical justification then.
@Ash There probably is one if you asked them about it.
Ash
Ash
16:10
@Bellerophon Where would one ask such a question Meta Stack?
@Ash meta meta indeed; but if they remove it because of you I will stop talking to you
Ash
Ash
@dot_Sp0T So tempted to say something sarcastic, so tempted.
@Ash do it
Ash
Ash
@dot_Sp0T So a plan with no downside then?
@Ash see, that's the way
Ash
Ash
16:16
@dot_Sp0T As long as you know I'm joking, pure text is not the best medium for humour.
Anger... fear...
aggression. The dark side of
the Force are they.
@Ash I don't think it's scary or insulting. It's just a statement of fact, especially because SE works differently than a lot of sites, so having something that says "hey, this person might not know what is/is not on topic, so be extra nice" is just a courtesy thing. It's not about rep, because you can get a lot of rep really quickly just by asking the right set of questions.
I just noticed it earlier today and thought "oh, that's handy. Good feature."
Ash
Ash
16:53
@AndyD273 It may be a good feature but it suggests, to me, that A. we're not nice to people anyway and B. that a new user is going to get treated relatively worse than an established one in some way. Maybe I'm just being too cynical of human nature, it wouldn't be the first time.
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Ok...I closed this...
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Q: If everyone in the world disappeared except 35 random people, how long would it take for one of them to realize they're not alone?

EulbEveryone suddenly disappears from earth except 35 people randomly scattered wherever they were before everyone disappeared. How long would it take on average for 2 or more people to meet? What other factors would indicate to a person that they're not the only person who didn't disappear?

It has since been reopened....
How the hell does that not qualify as too broad?
Dear survivors: Don't listen to gerrit. The apocalypse was his doing. Whatever you do, stay off the grid and stay away from those places. — Sneftel 4 hours ago
I wonder why nobody's mentioned good ol' fire yet.
Create a fire big enough to absolutely pour smoke out, but small enough to control. Use a blanket or something as a sort of valve to control how much rises.
With enough control, you could practically use morse code. And you could see the smoke for miles and miles.
Would be a start, anyway.
Ash
Ash
@James As I see it the first part can be answered with some mathematical certainty as "next best thing to forever" and second to "none whatsoever" it's a very answerable but very pointless question; not particularly broad.
Today I learned the word querent from @James, so that was nice
@kingledion That question makes my brain hurt...
17:07
I dunno, I actually think it is one of the best questions I've seen
Sure the querent doesn't specify much, but reality-based constraints do add a lot of specifics
There are answers that break it down by regional density, age distribution, river basin, its awesome
Its not bad...its just so exceptionally vague...I mean if its truly random all five could be in one small town in rural Oklahoma, or they could each be on a different continent. In the end, the question is pointless because the answer is, literally "anything you want it to be"
The answer is well thought out...but answers...nothing.
Also, if we closed it right away, we wouldn't have gotten sneftel's awesome comment
I used to have a spreadsheet with all my favorite comments on the site, but i appear to have lost it
I was going to make people go searching for funny comments as a holidays game
Since last holiday's data games were all played and won only by @Secespitus
@James It says "how long on average" so in theory there is either one or 3 correct answers.
@Bellerophon Except the average would be based on unset variables that could be anything....
so there still isn't an answer.
@kingledion Things we find funny or specific things you noted in your spreadsheet and wanted us to find? :D
17:16
@James Yes, that would help a lot.
@Green What were you responding to?
@James Your comment about a city of mages.
@Green Oh right. Yeah magic is handy.
“The only thing better than pirates is space pirates. It is science” - I concur. Now it is peer reviewed science! — Joe Bloggs yesterday
@Ash A. Depends. There are users that value speed over niceness. I know of one prolific close voter that took pride in the fact that they were very short with all users. And there are users that really take their time to help all users, new or not. The notice is probably more intended for the former type.
B. Not at all. the one who treated users bruskly did it very fairly. Even trying to close vote one of their own questions that they felt didn't measure up. It's not that a new user is going to be treated worse, it's that they don't know what's normal. If you are used to tropical water temperatures every day, and suddenly find yourself at a polar bear swim, it's going to be a jaring change. Taking a bit of extra time to explain the rules to a newbie isn't a bad thing.
17:19
@kingledion @Secespitus is a, uh, force of nature there.
And on meta.
@AndyD273 I would've phrased that as "if you're used to being a tomato in the garden and suddenly find yourself in the canning machine, it's going to be a jarring change."
Gotta catch all the puns...
@Hosch250 To pun or not to pun... wait, is that even an option?
BTW, what did the dusty, unused table in the corner say?
> I'm board.
Can you tell I'm bored?
I'm out of work.
@HDE226868 Muahahaha
@Secespitus Specific things on the sheet
I'll have to think of something else over the next 6 months
Ash
Ash
17:31
@AndyD273 I'm not disagreeing with you about efficacy or even intent, I just read it as implying some things about our community which, even though they are probably true, are not nice to have pointed up. Treating everyone equally automatically treats some people worse than others, people are all different.
@kingledion I am looking forward to it :D
@Ash Sure. Hence the gentile reminder to not assume that all users know the rules and protocol of the website. It might not feel nice to have it pointed out, but pain is usually a sign that there is a problem.
17:47
@AndyD273 I love gentile reminders: 'We don't eat pork so stop asking about bacon'
@kingledion Even turkey bacon?
You'll have to ask at Mi Yodeya, Turkeys were banished to the New World and didn't make it into Leviticus for a ruling.
@kingledion Well, they ate quail, and turkeys are like giant quail.
@AndyD273 giant quail with their wobblies on the bottom of their head instead of the top
Ash
Ash
@kingledion What about soy bacon?
17:53
@kingledion Research shows that turkey bacon is kosher, so long as it is prepared in a kosher facility using kosher methods.
Pretty sure turkeys were kosher. The general guidelines were laid out with lots of specific examples. Warning: I'm not Jewish.
Technically speaking, any kosher animal can be non-kosher if it is slaughtered or prepared incorrectly.
18:30
@dot_Sp0T I've had this idea for a couple years now:
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A: Where on my spaceship can I justify more space for my humans?

Hosch250The rocket would look much like current rockets, with people strapped in for the take-off. Once it had cleared the atmosphere and entered space proper, it would slide extensions out from the side, like certain RV's have. These spaces would provide more living space than the main rocket; as a matt...

Now they just need to figure out how to have flexible materials that work with space so they can "fold" the sides of the extensions, and they can make them quite large and still fit in a small-ish rocket.
Smallish-futuristic rocket.
Heck, they probably already have them.
But if they have the fuel to burn to launch often, they'll probably have the fuel to burn to launch bigger rockets.
Nice.
18:59
@Hosch250 very nice :D
 
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20:24
Please tell me we're not getting comment policies like on stacks such as gamedevSE
20:39
@dot_Sp0T Not so far as I am aware. Why do you ask?
@James just scared
@dot_Sp0T Fear, generally, stems from events.
You're an event
That's what she said.
20:53
@dot_Sp0T I am not active on GameDev.SE - what's the big difference to WB?
 
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22:13
Photography is letting people test out the new theme (although you need an account on the site). The new banner at the top has some semblance of personality - it's nicely done, actually. Anyway, I'm hoping we can at least get something like that for Worldbuilding, rather than a boring old monochrome block.
Long story short, here's what the new design-in-testing looks like, for anyone who doesn't want to have to join the site to see it:

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