The Factory Floor

FoxElemental

00:01

@Gry no problem.

@Gryphon Lemme find the thread . . .

Jul 13 at 21:45, by FreezePhoenix

STOP IT

Jul 13 at 21:46, by FoxElemental

@FreezePhoenix . . . Sorry?

Jul 13 at 21:47, by FreezePhoenix

If you're gonna talk to people, at least use their full first name...

Jul 13 at 21:48, by FoxElemental

@FreezePhoenix sorry, okay. But I don't mind if you call me Fox, btw.

Jul 13 at 21:50, by FreezePhoenix

And I don't mind if you call me @Pheo, or @TheOneWhoMade if you feel like calling me out for trouble... But never abbreviate a name like that.

@Gryphon That's the relevant conversation ^

Gryphon

OK, thanks. Seems kinda strange, but we all have our quirks.

FoxElemental

Yep

On another note, to whomever it may concernt (I know, I should stop pushing my own work)

Last round for revisions of this Medium story draft, any advice, anyone?

Gryphon

00:18

@Fox, maybe you could just make the title "Harmony 1" instead of "Harmony (Harmony, 1)"?

Other than that, besides the fact that science is so soft it's basically liquid, which I assume you don't mind, I think it's good.

Worldbuilding Meta

03:01

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Feeds 4026

04:30

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Questions

Why make a set with "set bonuses?" A Set Bonus is a bonus added to some magical item when used in a set. For example, one of my characters has a pair of Grinatlan Earrings which give heightened hearing. When they put on a matching Necklace from the Grinatlan set, the earrings now have a second...

dot_Sp0T

08:20

Do we have any manure-experts on this stack? I am looking for somebody that is confident talking about shit

Secespitus

08:47

@dot_Sp0T There are questions about manure and if you are looking for people answering everything you could possibly come up with I'd look at one of our top answerers

dot_Sp0T

that's somewhat disappointing

Secespitus

Why?

dot_Sp0T

because there's not yet much on the subject and there's plenty answers circumventing instead of addressing

but yeah

I'll cook sth up after reading up some more

FreezePhoenix

12:11

@Gryphon LOL or just call me Pheo

Ash

So would Worldbulding be the place to ask a Lovecraft based question on the Fermi Paradox or should I kick it out to the Sci-fi/fantasy crowd?

Rory Alsop

@Ash the scope and audience of the two sites is so very different.

Ash

@RoryAlsop Not hugely but the open topics are quite different.

Rory Alsop

Are they asking for help writing/creating/defining rules for a world?

Ash

I don't know, it's more of a "(in)sanity of idea" check really.

Rory Alsop

12:18

Could work then, depending on exactly what they are after

Ash

@RoryAlsop The question would be something like "given what we know of Lovecraft's Great Old Ones are they organised enough to use direct diaspora so they don't run out of snacks?"

AndyD273

12:40

@Ash Just going by the title I'd thing it was too opinion based/broad for WB. But the question itself could fix that problem. Also, figuring out how to word it as a reality check could also make it work. I kinda think maybe SF&F might fit better, but I also don't spend much time on that site.

Ash

@AndyD273 Cool I'll Sandbox it here and see how we go.

AndyD273

"I'm a great old one, and I don't want run out of snacks. What flaws in my plan am I missing?" Or something like that

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13:13

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Questions

The Great Old Ones are short of snacks, can direct diaspora solve their problem? Given what we know of the Cthulhu Mythos' Great Old Ones do they have the techno-magical ability and the organisation to keep the universe seeded with sentient life so they have minds to snack on or are they just to...

Gryphon

13:45

@AndyD273 Should I be worried about you?

AndyD273

@Gryphon Depends, are you a pizza?

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Gryphon

@AndyD273 Good answer.

Actually, that is now my number one answer to that question.

FoxElemental

14:04

@Gryphon "Science is so soft to be almost liquid." Love it!

And as for the title, it's meant to be that way (The next title will be "Discord (Harmony, 2)" in the sense of a series. It's 3 parts, by the way.

Gryphon

@FoxElemental I think I've invented a new term. "Liquid Science." For when sci-fi manages to break every single law in physics.

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FreezePhoenix

So... just call me Pheo if you're not pinging me.

FoxElemental

aw thx

FreezePhoenix

It's a previous name of mine.

FoxElemental

Mmkay

that came out wrong

Gryphon

14:08

Wow, I don't think I've ever gotten six stars for a message before.

FoxElemental

@Gry Starred cuz you're always going on about how all of your messages are starred

FreezePhoenix

^

Gryphon

To quote myself "All of my messages should be starred. Because I'm just that awesome."

FoxElemental

Wish granted

Gryphon

Of course that got starred.

FoxElemental

14:10

Would you like me to star that too^?

Gryphon

Not really. It's getting kind of excessive.

FreezePhoenix

Hey hey hey... mod walks in and we have a problem

HDE 226868

@Gryphon We have a lot of lurkers this morning. . .

FoxElemental

What!? WHERE!? LEMME AT 'IM!

Oh, hi @HDE. Just you

Never mind

Gryphon

@Fox that was an interesting response.

Secespitus

14:11

@FreezePhoenix Why do we have a problem? And what does that have to do with a mod being here?

FoxElemental

Ha ha ha . . .ah ahAHAHAHAHAHAH (@Gry)

@Secespitus Starring every one of Gry's messages

FreezePhoenix

@Secespitus Unusual starring activities

ninj'd

FoxElemental

And soft, slightly melting science

Gryphon

@FreezePhoenix is it really necessary to replace the "a" with an apostrophe? It's the exact same number of characters.

Secespitus

That's not really a problem as Gryphon mentioned themselves that you guys shouldn't do this too excessively. I don't really see a problem, which is why that message read quite weird...

FreezePhoenix

14:13

@Gryphon It's an SE saying

FoxElemental

@FreezePhoenix It is?

Hosch250

@Secespitus That was the point--if they did it excessively, it would be a problem.

HDE 226868

@FreezePhoenix I have gone temporarily deaf and haven't any idea what you said.

Ash

@Gryphon But it's more irritating if it's not in, you know, language.

FreezePhoenix

@HDE226868 Good idea

Hosch250

14:14

@HDE226868 Time to make a joke about Nixon.

FoxElemental

@Hosch . . . You mean . . .

Stargate?

Gryphon

At-will temporary deafness is a wonderful thing.

Hosch250

No, his "I don't remember" speech(es).

FoxElemental

Gryphongate? FreezePheonixGate? Foxgate?

@Hosch250 I actually seriously don't remember those.

Hosch250

That's because his memory was good compared to the last couple presidents'.

Gryphon

14:16

Now I'm going to name a city in something "gryphongate". Or perhaps "gryphonsgate".

FoxElemental

So . . . I can name something "Foxy?" Doesn't have the same ring

@HDE has your hearing returned yet? For yes, say yes. For no, say "WHAT? SPEAK LOUDER!"

Gryphon

@FoxElemental No, that was just a random idea because I like how the name sounded.

FoxElemental

oh

Hosch250

I just changed my password at work.

My new one is in the style of "correct horse battery staple".

It's quite long, though not as long as my Twitter password.

Gryphon

An excellent style indeed.

FoxElemental

14:20

Which is very well known, defeating the purpose

Hosch250

@FoxElemental That's not the password--just the style.

Gryphon

@Fox he said "in the style of" not "is". It isn't actually "correct horse battery staple".

ninjad

Hosch250

Unless you mean my twitter password is well know. In which case I dare you to post something on my twitter account.

FoxElemental

@Hosch250 Hope your Facebook password isn't C̸͎͚̝̽͛o̸͕͑ŕ̵̡̺ͅr̷̢̈́͐͝ḙ̵͔̓̒ͅc̶͇̦͒ț̵̨̖̄̌͌h̶̬̃ơ̴̦̫͙r̶̳̱̈s̸̠͚̏é̶̘b̵̮̟́̚ȁ̴͉̿t̴‌͉̔t̷̳͆͂̽e̷͇͎̎͑͝r̶͙̩͂̔̕y̸̡̮͐̽s̷͖̗̚t̶͓̓́͝a̴̠͓͒p̴͓̏̾l̷̡̹̙̅̑e̶̲͠, though. We all know how that ends

Hosch250

@FoxElemental Nope.

Worse.

FoxElemental

14:22

How?

Hosch250

That's for you to discover.

FoxElemental

<insert maniacal laughter>?

FreezePhoenix

@FoxElemental Stop the zalgo...

Gryphon

Mwahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Maniacal laughter inserted, as demanded.

Hosch250

@FoxElemental No, that's a bit more like my wordpress password.

Which reminds me. I have about 5 passwords I need to change and about half a dozen lawsuits to bring for not allowing me to delete my accounts ;P

FreezePhoenix

14:25

:P

FoxElemental

@FreezePhoenix Okay. Wait . . . you could read it?

Hosch250

@FoxElemental I can...

FreezePhoenix

@FoxElemental Yes. It shows up.

@Raphiel zalgo SO DOES THIS

Hosch250

And obviously you can.

FoxElemental

@Raphiel?

Hosch250

14:27

Raphiel isn't in the room, if that matters.

SHEEESH.

FoxElemental

To snag a quote from Tavern on the Meta . . .

Hosch250

SSMS is crashing on me left and right.

FoxElemental

OH MY GAWD! IT'S FULL OF STARS AND CHICKEN! (Although to be precise, I don't see any chicken, just stars.)

Gryphon

@FoxElemental Now now, no swearing please.

FoxElemental

@Gryphon Better, or stick with "gosh"?

FreezePhoenix

14:29

Raphiel is a bot I made...

Gryphon

@FoxElemental I can accept that.

FreezePhoenix

And he's acting up

FoxElemental

Hold on . . . .

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Q: Is it acceptable to use words like "heaven" and "god" when the narrator is agnostic?

The main character, and the person whose viewpoint the story is told from, is a scientist and subscribes to agnosticism. And there are sentences in my story like: "Trees stretched into the sky forever, like the stilts of heaven."* Is this acceptable? I know that heaven can mean "a very e...

FreezePhoenix

@Raphiel zalgo

@FreezePhoenix /<([a-z]+) [^\/]?>/

@Raphiel zalgo something

@FreezePhoenix s̖̅̌ͯ̈̔̋o̵̯͖̳͂ͭṁ̸̯̥̤̦̩̠͉́ͥ̓ͅḙ͙̦̗͙͙̹̥̲̄ͪͩͧ̇͗͋̚t̷̵̛̬̳̤͈̜͕ͯ̉͆̔̓h̴̘͔̘̼̭̄i̙̫̣͇̳̮̺ͬ̄‌̼ṇ̰̺̩͉̘̣͍̠̄̎ͥ͡g̵̼̜̖̰̑̉ͣ̆̊

There we go

@Hosch250 Raphiel isn't an account

FoxElemental

//lick @FreezePhoenix

FreezePhoenix

14:31

That's not how it works.

FoxElemental

Oh, Sorry. That's Alisha

Who's not in here

Hosch250

@FoxElemental I don't know whether to say "gross" or "ouch".

FoxElemental

The most starred responses from that bot are

"Licks @Soandso. *dies*"

and "licks @soandso. *shivers* tastes like wet dog!"

Hosch250

Where is Alisha?

FoxElemental

In the Sandbox Chatroom

Hosch250

14:34

Oh, right, Zoe's chatbot.

FreezePhoenix

@Raphiel welcome @FoxElemental

@@FoxElemental Hi! I am Raphiel! Please review the room rules. Please don't abuse me. I am still in testing, and wouldlike to live a long life without complications.

FoxElemental

Got it

FreezePhoenix

Yep.

Hosch250

in Sandbox, Jun 30 at 11:49, by Alisha

@TheMaskedRebel I'm not licking @FreezePhoenix!

LOL.

FoxElemental

Yes

FreezePhoenix

14:37

@Hosch250 That would be because I'm banned from that bot. (You know, competing projects and that)

Hosch250

I understood it was because you were messing with her a bit.

Not the bot, the owner.

FoxElemental

oh, got to go

FreezePhoenix

... Messing the bot counts as messing with the owner

WTF

@FoxElemental?

@Hosch250 chat.stackoverflow.com/…

(The removed user is me, FYI)

@Hosch250?

Hosch250

Yeah?

FreezePhoenix

I forgot to ask how you're doing.

Hosch250

14:52

Don't worry, I forgot to ask too.

Umm, apparently I'm doing fine, but mildly bored.

Having to reinstall SSMS because the KACE updates broke it.

FreezePhoenix

I never followed the rule NYA - kNow Your Acronyms

FoxElemental

@FreezePhoenix Back. What did you want to ping me for?

Hosch250

Some auto-updating software our work runs.

May or may not be tied to the Dell systems we use.

FreezePhoenix

@FoxElemental Your profile did some trippy dancing with the user list

FoxElemental

@Freeze it did?

FreezePhoenix

14:57

*glowers* Yes it did

Hosch250

Yeah, it left, then came back, then left, then came back.

FreezePhoenix

@Hosch250 Nah it only left once

Hosch250

@FreezePhoenix I think you mean *glows*.

FoxElemental

@FreezePhoenix Sorry

FreezePhoenix

@Hosch250 tehehe

@Raphiel bad boy. You aren't supposed to log in several rooms.

@FreezePhoenix We were discussing you -- not me.

@FoxElemental the command prefix is @Raphiel so it would be @Raphiel die but you don't have privileges to run that command anyhow.

FoxElemental

15:04

@FreezePhoenix Aww. You go "dies" right?

FreezePhoenix

/shrug

@Raphiel die

FoxElemental

. . . Wrong room?

FreezePhoenix

He now ignores commands

@Raphiel listcommands

@Raphiel live

@Raphiel listcommands

@Raphiel bad boy you logged to the other room!

FoxElemental

Say "Give my creation LIFE!"

FreezePhoenix

@Raphiel echo "Give my creation LIFE!"

@Raphiel live

@Raphiel echo "Give my creation LIFE!"

shrugs I broke it

@Raphiel tell FoxElemental echo "LIFE"

Definitely broke it

FoxElemental

15:15

Aww

FreezePhoenix

I'm gonna start converting this site: themattbat999.github.io/rpgChatGame to JSON. Anyone who wishes to help can.

Format:

{
   "<spellName>": {
    "effects": effects
  }
}

{
   "<weaponName>": {
    "damage": damage,
    "hands": hands
  }
}

You get the point I think

(To be used with a bot API that will get stats of items and spells)

FoxElemental

The only code I know is LaTeX, and even then I'm only experienced with the Mathmode part of it'

anything else is confusing

FreezePhoenix

Well... if you follow my format above ^ it can't go wrong

Hosch250

@FreezePhoenix Wanna bet?

Works hard to make it as wrong as possible

FreezePhoenix

@Hosch250 Don't you dare :P

Hosch250

15:20

IKR? I'm pretty good at accidentally screwing with JSON formatting.

FreezePhoenix

I wanna see how bad you get this

AndyD273

@Ash I think if it was just the Elder Things the answer could be yes, since they are credited with creating the shoggoth and other life, including humans in "The mountains of madness". The Exploring Series on youtube has a lot of info on Lovecraft mythos.

Exploring the Cthulhu Mythos: Elder Things

►

FoxElemental

Aaand submitted the story draft on medium

Where has @dot_sp0T been?

dot_Sp0T

@FoxElemental ?

FoxElemental

Ah. Never mind

dot_Sp0T

15:30

why ask then?

FoxElemental

Because some questions need to be:)

dot_Sp0T

Then why 'never mind' it?

FoxElemental

Because I'm difficult

See ya

dot_Sp0T

:/

Ash

@AndyD273 Yeah the Great Old Ones ate them too when they could get them, that's what I'm trying to work on, whether a voracious predator of intelligent life can in fact look and work far enough ahead to make their lunch instead of just feasting where and when they can.

AndyD273

15:39

@Ash They also successfully pushed back Cthulhu and the star spawn and the Yith every time... Probably could spend a few hours watching the whole explorer series for each of the mythos characters to actually find an answer to your question. For some reason I don't think that all of the great old ones were voracious eaters, and they did cultivate cultists as servants, meaning that they could plan ahead a little.

Ash

@AndyD273 I've already started the watching. Actually I've watched bits of this series before.

Hosch250

16:09

The CoC is the best thing since sliced bread.

I hope that's obviously not sarcasm, since that's explicitly banned by it.

Ash

17:02

@Hosch250 So I'm going to be contributing a whole lot less then.

FoxElemental

@dot Why the sad face?

dot_Sp0T

@FoxElemental Because I'm difficult

FoxElemental

17:22

@dot lol

Hey

@dot You're on Conlang, right?

Could you pop over to their chatroom and see my latest message+post your opinion on it? It's about a Q I want to ask their, but I'm not sure about the TB/POB part of it. If not, that's okay. If so, thanks.

dot_Sp0T

sorry, don't want to

FoxElemental

@dot no prob

James

19:22

Afternoon peoples.

Hosch250

Afternoon, person.

James

...and foreign dictators looking for inspiration.

Hosch250

How's it going?

James

@Hosch250 Eh. Busy day. My brain needed a break so here I am.

Hosch250

Huh. My brain needed stimulation.

FreezePhoenix

19:33

Hi

Hosch250

@FreezePhoenix Hola!

FreezePhoenix

Como estas?

Hosch250

Muy bien.

FreezePhoenix

20:05

Writing a new bot to get some stats...

FreezePhoenix

20:33

@Hosch250 did you ever give me an example of how badly you messed it up :P

Hosch250

No, you said not to bother trying.

FreezePhoenix

I hereby recede that statement (Can I even do that?)

Hosch250

No because I'm busy.

But good examples are A) forgetting to use : instead of =, B) forgetting a comma somewhere, and C) having whitespace at the beginning of the file.

Other examples are using [ instead of {, etc.

Oh, or trying to represent a date.

FoxElemental

20:51

Hewwo

FreezePhoenix

@FoxElemental BTW entropy means generation of heat

FoxElemental

@FreezePhoenix No, loss

Or as google puts it

Hosch250

@FoxElemental Same thing.

FreezePhoenix

So to speak, it means that heat is generated if work is done.

FoxElemental

"lack of order or predictability; gradual decline into disorder"

@Hos @FreezePhoenix Yes

Besides

as @Gry put it, it's "liquid science." People have come up with far worse interpretations of other scientific concepts and bent them in ridiculous ways before

Hosch250

20:58

The more I see of WB, the more I think 90-some% of the Qs are poorly researched.

3

"What kind of rock should I have these hills be"...

OK, so you want a castle, so you want a hard, but not brittle, green stone.

LMGTFY.

And I totally expect a chat ban for that comment ^

FoxElemental

Really? Would you like me to ping HDE or James? (Just kidding.)

Hosch250

I think they'll see it without pinging.

FoxElemental

Well

I think it'll be fine

And a lot of the questions get closed

I'm actually glad that we have such enthusiastic close-voters, at least for these types of questions

@Aify That means you too, so I guess I have you to thank for that as well.

Aify

21:40

@FoxElemental don't count your eggs before they hatch

I'm on the verge of quitting the use of WB completely

Too much garbage on the site

Gryphon

@Aify don't go!

We like you here!

Aify

Badly researched/ill defined (eg: too broad or pob all the damned time) questions make up the majority of the front page

Gryphon

@Aify and they then get closed, and move down the list as people lose interest.

Aify

I don't think that's true at all @Gryphon (not that it bothers me). I just don't think it's worth my time to look for things to try and contribute to when the majority of those things aren't worthy of contribution

Gryphon

Hmm, that's weird, it just pinged me twice for that post.

Mike Nichols

21:43

@Aify I too hate it when those badly researched questions prevent me from asking or answering good questions.

James

@MikeNichols ...that's not really a thing. Crap questions don't stop you from asking good ones.

I mean yeah I would prefer they weren't there, but it doesn't stop you unless you spend your time on them.

Mike Nichols

@James Good point James. I agree completely.

Gryphon

@Mike then why did you claim that "badly researched questions prevent me from asking or answering good questions."

Mike Nichols

@Gryphon I was sarcastically agreeing with Aify. I had thought the statement would be self-evidently erroneous enough that I wouldn't need to be more explicit.

Gryphon

@Mike ah, sorry. I didn't get the sarcasm.

Mike Nichols

21:54

@Gryphon Neither did James, but it worked out well because he made exactly the point I was trying to convey to Aify.

FoxElemental

22:11

@Aify Don't go! Or if you do go, at least stay here! We'd missyou

Gryphon

"If you do go, at least stay here!", umm, I don't think you can simultaneously leave and stay. Unless you've managed to clone yourself or something.

FoxElemental

I mean, if you leave WB, stay in The Factory Floor

Gryphon

Ah, I see.

FoxElemental

@Aify And if you stay, you can perform "close vote on demand" services for us! We could set up a little smoke detector-style thing.

Gryphon

Why does every other thing I post get starred?

FoxElemental

22:18

I have no idea. And I didn't star it

But I just starred that

for a second

Don't want to "be excessive."

Gryphon

Hmm, and my "Liquid Science" comment is still on the starboard.

FoxElemental

good

Gryphon

Of course, that doesn't even come close to matching the lifetime of the "Save the Robot" comment, which is still on the top of the starboard.

FoxElemental

Cuz it's pinned

HDE pinned it so it stays there

Gryphon

@Fox Oh. That makes sense.

FoxElemental

22:31

yep

@Gryphon?

Gryphon

Yes?

FoxElemental

@Gryphon I really want 1 more opinion on this Sandbox draft, even if it's a light one, but no one has responded to the draft for quite a while. Do you mind? If so, no worries. I'll find someone else to bug about it. (I am, as I have stated previously, difficult.)

Gryphon

@FoxElemental I'm not exactly a genius at orbital mechanics, but it looks ready to post now. You get kinda obsessive over making sure every question is perfect before it goes to main.

FoxElemental

@Gryphon Thanks. Will post tomorrow

Gryphon

All right. Sorry, gtg. See ya tomorrow.

FoxElemental

22:39

Thanks. See you

FoxElemental

22:50

I'll leave now too

FreezePhoenix

23:26

@Aify WAT?!?!?!? That has never go anyone anywhere

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