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12:26 AM
Note to self: Ask question tomorrow.
 
 
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1:48 AM
@DaaaahWhoosh As has been foretold, I have seen the King Bun. It was a wee lil bun in the front yard when I got home from the store. I attempted to take a picture as tradition dictates, but one does not simply take the image of a king. So I substitute the traditional bun emoji šŸ‡. Long live the bun. šŸ‡
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4:01 AM
@Green @DaaaahWhoosh There is a movie where Peter O'Toole plays a loony aristocrat who decides he is God. When praying he realized he was talking to himself.
@Green Bicameralism really happens with a severed corpus callosum. Speech is located on the left hemisphere. Show an object to a bicameral one eye at a time, and only eye will be able to name it. It's the right eyes, because, paradoxically the left hemisphere controls the right side of the body. @TrEs-2b's aliens might have evenly distributed hemispheres. This could enable them to shutdown one hemisphere at a time & be fully functional. Which takes out the duality idea. Pity!
 
 
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7:08 AM
I really enjoyed this question but I am fairly new to World Building. worldbuilding.stackexchange.com/q/85751 Why do none of the answers mention Iain M Banks Culture orbitals? Although they orbit a Mind rather than a planet, Banks wrote at least one graphic and IMO believable destruction sequence, that could inspire the OP.
 
 
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9:59 AM
Hereā€™s something funny: I need to fix a musical instrument, and I canā€™t find my container of ā€œhide glueā€. Itā€™s not where I left itā€¦
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10:28 AM
It is well hidden?
 
10:59 AM
@dcorking I have never heard about that. If you think it would be helpful it might be a good idea to write an answer. Just make sure to write all the important information into the answer. A short book recommendation would be better as a comment than an answer.
And welcome to WorldBuilding! Have fun on the site.
 
11:16 AM
great thanks, I thought it might be off topic. Although at the moment I can't remember which book has the destruction sequence, so I can't even post a book recommendation comment :laugh:
@JDługosz I saw your glue, and followed the clear instruction on the label. You'll find it in my usual hiding place.
 
@dcorking If you want to get feedback on an answer before posting you can also try the Answer Sandbox on meta. It's not used very much, but if you want you can post a draft there and ask in the chat if the answer would be okay.
Though people around here are generally more sceptic about questions than answers, which is why we have a Sandbox for questions.
 
nice
 
 
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1:03 PM
@dcorking An orbital gets destroyed in Consider Phlebas, there are attempts to destroy one in Look to Windward
Cultural Orbitals are spun up to simulate 1G and 24hr day/night cycles though - this puts large stress on the system. In the case of that question it would (as described in the first answer) completely depend on the nature of the orbit.
 
1:22 PM
thanks @Tim
 
2:10 PM
Is it just me or does the latest edit here say that the editor added 37 characters, but the markdown is only showing one additional superfluous space at the end of the text?
 
that is what it looks like
 
Looking at the edit of his own answer that he did roughly at the same time it has the same edit message. Weird.
Seems like he copied the message and then added a single space at the end of the other answer...
 
the edit he made to his own answer was more recent, though. I wonder if he tried to edit his own answer, but accidentally edited the other one, and then at some point corrected the mistake.
 
@HDE226868 On second thought, maybe not.
 
 
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4:41 PM
Huh, I just got the Announcer badge for a link I shared - as a comment. I always thought that only applied only for links to questions that are posted in answers or questions. Interesting.
I wonder if I would lose it if I deleted that comment.
@DaaaahWhoosh Doesn't the automatic message only get added once you click on send?
 
@Secespitus yeah, but potentially there was some weird caching issue along the way
 
@DaaaahWhoosh Seems to be the only reasonable explanation
 
it might be worth bringing up on meta or something, it could potentially be a bug that SE should know about
if anything, it's a single-character edit that got let through, which shouldn't be possible
 
@DaaaahWhoosh Well, he has the privilege. It's one of these "He should know better and care about using this feature" situations.
Wait, grace period!
He sent the edit. Realised it was wrong. Edited and removed the sentence instead of using rollback. Didn't change the edit message.
 
he can't edit that message, it's the auto-generated one
but yes, it seems like it didn't update itself
 
4:51 PM
Once you send it it's the normal edit message that could have been edited in the grace period.
 
oh, really?
 
Yes
 
I thought the 'edited x characters' thing was always separate from the editable edit reason message
 
And it only counts as one edit so that the post doesn't get bumped multiple times if you do this in a few minutes
 
I want to try to reproduce this on meta
 
4:53 PM
Nope, pretty sure it becomes the normal message. Its just that the system automatically writes this if the box is empty
Sorry for the confusion. It's just such an edge case that I didn't initially thought of it :D
 
it is a really interesting case. And I wonder if it's exploitable
 
For causing confusion, yes
It's intended, so I am pretty sure the developers are testing this regularly.
 
but like you said, this is an edge case
I can see people using it to get those editing badges
 
How? It only counts as one edit and you have to make a real edit, followed in a few minutes by another send action on the same post.
 
but if no one's watching and you have the rep, you can make the same edit every time, and just remove it
 
4:59 PM
Ah, now I see where you are going with this.
But no
Then it says "Removed during grace period" or something along the lines.
 
but it didn't do that here
I think we should test it on meta
 
It didn't do that because there was still a space. It was not removed completely.
And the badges are per post edited, not per edit.
 
okay then, so the exploit involves adding content, then removing it and replacing it with a space
right, so you do this to a bunch of different posts
 
Which will get bumped once each.
There were Meta discussions about me because I bumped 3 old and 2 relatively new posts once. I am pretty sure someone would see that.
 
I guess the part I'm missing is that I didn't think people could make single-character edits. But I guess if they can then this is the same as that
 
5:04 PM
Though I had under 2k rep at that time...
Once you cross the 2k you are free from the shackles of "at least 6 characters", "only 5 pending edits at a time" and "thanks for the edit. Please wait until they are peer reviewed".
 
weird, the other two make sense but I don't like the idea of someone adding a space to random posts
or... I guess that only works with all three of them at once
editing without peer review seems dangerous in general
especially after only 2k rep
 
The 6 are to make sure it's a useful edit when it comes from new users. Later you can fix small typos of one character. You should know by that time to be careful (which a lot of people are not)
It would be safer with a peer review, but the whole idea of the rep system is to give you more control at some point. There are a lot of points where the system could be optimised.
And sometimes people get more than 500 rep with a single answer
 
yep. But I guess rep is in-general a terrible way to see how trustworthy/knowledgeable users are
 
You have to use some sort of system. And when you value answers above everything else then it makes sense to give those that produce the best and most answers the most privileges.
But it's not a good indicator about how much a user knows about the site and it's goals/rules in general.
 
this is probably a good place for a Dark Knight quote
it's not the privilege system we need, but it is the one we deserve. Or something like that.
 
5:14 PM
@DaaaahWhoosh That may be backward...
"It's not the best, but that's all you deserve you little punk"
vs "It's not what you users deserve, but it's what works for right now."
 
I don't really know if we deserve a better system though
 
what does merit have to do with it?
 
5:34 PM
@Secespitus I'm pretty sure they gained less than 500 rep with that answer. Their total rep sits at 501 and they had the association bonus when they started. Rep caps hit hard on popular questions like that.
 
@sphennings Good point. They "only" got 400 until now.
 
6:04 PM
@sphennings this guy must've lost at least 4000 rep by now because of the cap
whoa, hold up now, in the comments on that answer they're offering the guy a site shirt
I know "where's our site swag" is a dead horse, but come on, now they're just giving them away on other sites
 
6:20 PM
@DaaaahWhoosh I almost want to sign in to the english SE just to upvote that answer
@DaaaahWhoosh @MonicaCellio said a month or so ago that things had started up again in that department... I still have faith
May 8 at 21:02, by Monica Cellio
@AndyD273 I pinged a CM about our swag last week ('cause it sure has been a long time with no news), and apparently we and one other site fell into a black hole (more appropriate for us than Salesforce, I guess?). They're trying to get it sorted out and send apologies.
 
oh, okay then
I guess I need to re-confirm that I'm still far enough up the list to qualify
#44, sounds about right
 
@DaaaahWhoosh I'm trying to remember if it was ever confirmed that the list got locked in when we graduated... I kind of think so?
So it might not be the top 72 as of now, but as of graduation...
 
I hope they do some sort of confirmation to tell if those people are still active
it's been what, a year? A year and a half?
 
6:51 PM
Well, I occasionally get email from SE if I get a comment or something and don't sign in for a day to see it on the site. It's possible that they could just reach out to people that way.
 
I assume they'll have to do something like that just for shipping info. I'm just hoping that they'll be smart about it, and give a chance for the new guys to get subbed in
 
7:14 PM
so, unrelated, but you know those times when there's a tedious workaround for a problem that's most likely a simple configuration issue, but since there's not enough documentation and too much configuration you end up having to do the workaround anyway?
for the past two weeks I've been putting off the workaround, and I just found the configuration issue.
 
@DaaaahWhoosh So that must be pretty satisfying
 
yeah, it's great. I was going to be working on that for hours, now I don't have to
 
I've been teaching myself circuitry, IC programming and how IOT works, and it felt really good when I pushed a button on a web page and the little LED on the circuit running off a battery on the back deck turned on. Like it wasn't all a lot of wasted time.
The power of youtube
 
@AndyD273 reminds me of my senior project in college, I was seriously halfway done when I could generate a black screen with a single blue pixel
in hindsight, it wasn't a very big project. But it took a long time to get that pixel to show up
come to think of it, I never went back and finished that project. It's apparently very difficult to accurately display 3D objects when you can look up and down.
 
7:37 PM
Need to convince them you're tall enough to ride the rollercoaster?

Go to www.ItsAStretch.com
 
I'm trying to remember what my final project was... I remember the prof had two classes, one was a programming class, the other was a circuitry and the like class. So he'd get a real world company with a problem, and get the programming class to research the problem and come up with a whole big specification and design and everything, and write a working proof of concept.
Then the following semester the other class had to actually take that and make it work in the real world. I know the year before me they had to make a RFID sign in and access for the YMCA
@TrEs-2b Lies, all lies
Though it is for sale
 
@AndyD273
 
@AndyD273 we had to do that for my Database class... but I'm really hoping no one actually expected to use the database we created
 
@DaaaahWhoosh Yeah, I do remember feeling that way when we were done with ours... I really wish I could remember what the project was now.
 
my group's database project was creating a database for one of those 'kidnap cats and cut off their genitals' places
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7:47 PM
That's the worst alien abduction I could ever imagine
 
yeah... a lot of abduction stories seem to involve making babies, not ensuring that no babies can ever be made again
holy bovines, my stupid answer about bringing a sword to a gunfight has almost 100 upvotes
I wanted people to stop upvoting it, but now I want that gold badge
 
8:28 PM
@DaaaahWhoosh Have you seen the new video shorts by the guy who made District 9. Its been a couple weeks but I think the aliens in his Rakka video have a sterility program as part of the extermination...
 
sounds like something I should either look into or run away from
 
He makes shorts?!
I love that movie and am joyed at this news
 
It's a new youtube channel. Oats Studios
 
Does it take place in the same universe as District 9?
 
by 'the guy who made District 9' we're talking about Niell Blomkamp?
 
8:31 PM
@TrEs-2b It kinda ranges all over
 
also the guy behind Elysium and Chappie? As I recall, he did short films before District 9, I guess it's good he's going back to them now
 
@DaaaahWhoosh Yeah. I was blanking out on the name
 
Chappie was also a great movie
 
I was not a fan of Chappie. But it was all right.
It mostly bothered me that the guy didn't have runtime errors.
I appreciated that they had runtime errors in Big Hero 6. But in Chappie he tries to compile for two years, and once he gets a clean compile he's done
 
As a guy who doesn't understand a lick of computer code, I was able to ignore that
 
8:34 PM
yeah, I might be too smart for most sci-fi now
 
It's probably worse for people watching any space scifi that also truly understand orbital mechanics
 
Big Hero 6 was good to, I felt the sad scene with past recording of his brother was lacking in the musical department (something Pixar usually excels at)
 
hmm, I don't remember being bothered by that
but I guess I don't necessarily notice the music in films. Unless it's a musical and there is no singing
 
the only time I notice music is when it's really really good, or even slightly wrong.
 
8:42 PM
Like watching Moana with the kids, and the song Shiny(?) comes on, and compared to the rest of the music it's jarring. Like someone really goofed when they were composing that song for that movie. I'm not even sure what it is about the song I hate.
@DaaaahWhoosh That actually doesn't bother me though. Its alien music, played by aliens, with alien ears and alien instruments. It all fits together cohesively.
 
@AndyD273 That's one of the most fitting things for a WorldBuilder to say
Good evening guys
 
I mean, if you were watching Phantom of the Opera and suddenly the cantina song was playing in one the scenes it would be wrong on lots of levels. Out of tune being only one of them.
 
I would love to hear a mashup of the cantina song and the Phantom of the Opera (PotO?) theme
 
I can't even picture it
 
I can almost get there... I'm thinking PotO has to turn into jazz first
aww, it's times like this when I wish I could write music. I've created a really good song in my head, and no one will ever hear it
 
8:53 PM
I love the Phantom of the Opera theme. Mashing that with the Cantina Band sounds interesting, but also very very weird.
 
I Go!
 
9:30 PM
huh, we have a Computer Science Educators beta site
that feels... specific
we don't even have a general Educators site
 

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