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2:00 AM
OK, @James, this one's for you:
(Coming soon...)
A man of dubious aims
Endowed with the breath of flames
Announced with a snort
No [tag:limerick] support
His name was "Great Glanark James"
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GTGTB. TTYL.
 
 
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6:14 AM
@Green well, let's go: are most of these lines actual springs or rather streams formed by rainfall?
I really don't understand nothing about streams and how they form
 
6:48 AM
def need to break the terrain to fit the streams better
 
6:59 AM
@Green your saddle is back
 
7:38 AM
Good morning @Secespitus
@Mithrandir24601 hellas
 
@dot_Sp0T Rytsas! Skorkydoso glaesā? [How are you?]
 
@Mithrandir24601 Skorsky I think
 
@dot_Sp0T 'sȳz glaeson' is 'I'm good' (roughly) :P
 
I will try to keep it in mind :D
Und wie gehts dir?
 
@dot_Sp0T Mir geht's gut, danke :)
 
7:50 AM
Schön zu hören, wie läufts sonst? Hast du jetzt noch Ferien oder schon wieder alles über?
 
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Mr.JWill teaching Basketball change a Spartan Teenagers life perspective? In a world where Spartan way of life is the code of life, can you change a spartan teenager's life perspective through basketball? The change must include 1)Democracy - Purest democracy that voices out the everybodies opini...

 
@dot_Sp0T Mein Ferien nächste woche sein
 
@Mithrandir24601 ha, got you!
 
Blimey, that was hard :P Also, many errors that will have contained...
@dot_Sp0T What should it have been? :P
 
But quite good actually, did you use a translator or just data on german and your head?
Meine Ferien sind (erst) nächste Woche
probably
Tense: Present (Präsens)
 
7:56 AM
@dot_Sp0T Mostly my head - I had to look up 'sonst' and checked the word for 'next' though
 
well, simple future really. but that's still Präsens
 
@dot_Sp0T Good morning
 
and you had the verb to be (sein) in the infinitive form instead of conjugating it according to the subject of the sentence (subject: Ferien -> plural)
 
@dot_Sp0T ahh, OK - I wish my German is better than it is
@dot_Sp0T bah!
 
@Mithrandir24601 hier können sie geholfen werden :D
 
8:00 AM
@dot_Sp0T 'we can(will?) help you here'?
 
@Mithrandir24601 it's sort of an idiom
 
@dot_Sp0T Ahh, OK
 
Wir können dir/ihnen da helfen -> We can be of assistance
Would you like to learn Swiss German?
 
@dot_Sp0T That's probably not the best idea until (if) I actually learn German 'high German' first :P
 
But Swiss German is way easier, only got 2 tenses
@Secespitus wie gehts uns Heute?
 
8:44 AM
@dot_Sp0T Ganz gut soweit, und selbst?
 
@Secespitus Müde, aber glücklich. Gestern noch bis gefühlt Mitternacht im Büro gewesen. Jetzt schon wieder, aber in ner Stunde dann für nen Monat ruhe (hoffentlich). Topo-Karte kommt ganz gut und habe das Gefühl ich werde nacher zum Textteil kommen - Fazit: Könnte schlimmer sein
:D
 
Ein Monat Urlaub hört sich gut an. Irgendwas geplant?
 
@Secespitus lernen & prüfungen *duck und weg*
 
Das hört sich weniger gut an. :D
 
und wenns gut läuft ein wenig am conworld setting basteln mit nem freund. und evtl kriegen wir Friedrichshafen hin
Bei dir normal schaffe schaffe?
 
8:56 AM
Alles normal.
 
gut gut
 
9:12 AM
What's an etymologist flamewar?
 
What is an etymologist?
 
An etymologist is someone who studies the history (otherwise known as the etymology) of words.
So I would presume an etymologist flamewar would be like a regular flamewar (which is when a bunch of posts that are of an inflammitory nature are posted on a forum) but with etymologists.
 
 
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11:42 AM
I came back on and saw German and etymologist flamewars. This chatroom is very interesting.
 
It is not
 
Could humans be efficient repair drones?
 
@dot_Sp0T You do not believe that this chatroom is interesting?
 
@dot_Sp0T Hooray!
The new bog off the small lake is pretty much exactly what I was hoping would happen. That, or a small lake. If the lake level increases, that bog turns to lake.
And it's probably reasonable to extend the bog all the way to the lake shore.
 
12:06 PM
@Green the answers to the question will hopefully talk about that
@Gryphon it is dead boring
 
I detect usage of the sarcasm font.
 
@Secespitus Let's just call it irony. After all, sarcasm is just a subset of irony, and irony isn't banned (yet).
 
12:39 PM
@Hosch250 Yeah, we should definitely ban irony next. ;)
 
NO SUBTLE PUT-DOWNS!
Well
Okay
What about blatant put-downs?
 
@FoxElemental Those are actively encouraged.
 
@Hosch250 Only as long as you are not sarcastic.
 
Yes. You must put people down without sarcasm to ensure they get it.
 
@Hosch Got it.
No sarcasm intended
 
1:26 PM
@dot_Sp0T I haven't checked, but have you considered making your topo map question a ?
That would let responders emphasize a "Yes, that makes sense" or "Nope, and here's why...."
 
@Green no have not, there's a bunch of sandbox questions at the bottom, e.g. one asking about tags :D
 
@dot_Sp0T Ah, gotcha.
 
1:41 PM
@dot_Sp0T Well, I've added my feedback to your sandbox question.
 
saw it, currently in the process of writing up prose
 
@dot_Sp0T cool.
And I have to say, working out the details of the topo map was really fun. Hooray for WB!
 
2:17 PM
15 minute dentist appointment to get two small budding cavities filled. Didn't expect it to be so fast.
 
2:55 PM
I have spent the last 3 hours failing to write text for the flipping question
 
LOL.
 
@dot_Sp0T what did you do instead?
 
@Green He wrote text for the spiraling question instead.
 
@Green 'learn'
 
@dot_Sp0T I stand corrected. What did you learn instead?
 
3:09 PM
@Green pseudo flirting with a girl that entered a relationship 2 weeks before i finally asked her out
 
LOL.
IME, if you want a girl, you have to jump off the cliff after her promptly. Not mull over it.
Otherwise, someone else will want her first.
(Perhaps I should've said in my observations instead of in my (non-existent) experience.)
FWIW, I don't know how to flirt either.
Hi, @HDE226868!
 
@dot_Sp0T That's still pretty new.
 
Yeah, try to steal her out from under the other guy's nose.
 
@Hosch250 Hey!
 
@Hosch250 Gutsy but might work.
Depends on your tolerance for bloody noses.
@HDE226868 Hey!
 
3:17 PM
Anyway, on this topic, I have a mildly amusing, and also seriously dangerous story to tell.
 
@Green Morning!
 
There's a girl a few years older than me in my brother's crowd of hobbyists.
 
@HDE226868 Making progress on the plasma physic simulation. Found a really good textbook on the matter.
 
She's a bit of a redneck, and got connected with a jerk.
 
@Green Congrats! Why the change?
 
3:18 PM
@HDE226868 To plasma simulation?
 
(Sorry - I was out yesterday afternoon in NYC; I'm currently going through my inbox)
@Green To not needing MHD.
 
They are both gunslingers, et al. Except, she's also kind of sweet, and the guy is a jerk and it sounds like he's abusive (I don't have all the details).
 
@Green What textbook?
 
@HDE226868 Oh. I found examples of people doing the kinds of simulation that I want/need to do which didn't involve MHD at all. This project is complicated enough already. No need to make it worse.
 
So, my family was talking about helping her get out of it, and said she'd probably need to move to the city and get in a refuge, and my brother said she'd never do that because she hates cities.
 
3:19 PM
@Green Oh, cool. Simplification is always nice.
 
So I proposed my brother learn to shoot a gun and then ask her out. He said he'd probably get killed for his impertinence :(
 
@HDE226868 Principles of Plasma Discharges and Materials Processing by Lieverman and Lichtenberg.
 
The problem is, she's not going to leave the country (as in, go to a city, not leave the US).
And her place (she owns the place) isn't secure if she kicks him out and he comes back violent.
 
Oooh, nice.
 
3:21 PM
@Hosch250 That's so scary.
 
So then, I proposed I learn to shoot and ask her out. My family seemed to think I'd be more successful than my brother, and said I'd better not because I'd go to jail.
So yeah, bad situation.
 
@Hosch250 Is being able to shoot a prerequisite for asking her out?
Why is it a prereq?
 
The mildly amusing part (to me) was them thinking that I'd be successful at getting the drop on him, even though I've never held a gun before.
 
Can she shoot?
 
@Green Because my brother said her current boyfriend would pull his gun because he's with her all the time.
Yes, she can.
So the prereq is that you have to FGITW him.
Even giving him the advantage of going for his gun first so you can claim self-defense.
 
3:23 PM
@Hosch250 Man, wild west style shoot-outs. Lovely.
 
Actually, he doesn't own any guns; the girl owns them all.
But she lets him pack too.
 
I'd buy her a big gun safe then.
Does he have a carry permit? If not then you might be able to get him that way.
 
Ever hear of Slim in the Jim Croce song?
The guy who cut Jim to ribbons with a knife hidden in his pool stick?
 
@Hosch250 Yes but not recently enough to remember the details.
 
Well, guns aren't the only way to kill.
 
3:26 PM
@Hosch250 True, but if you don't have to kill him, that'd work out nicely for everyone.
Legally, much cleaner too.
 
@Green I think so.
 
Or, you can go Dexter-esque on the guy and make sure there's no body to find.
 
I couldn't swear to it, though.
@Green Strip him, cut him to ribbons, and dump him on the side of the freeway?
Being careful to smash his teeth to remove the evidence of dental history?
 
@Hosch250 didn't you say, in another post, that you're 14?
 
Throw the body in the ditch in ND. They'd never find it, there's so much freeways.
 
3:27 PM
@Hosch250 Strip the guy, destroy all ID, disolve the whole body in acids then dump the whole toxic sludge down the drain.
 
@dot_Sp0T You're almost ten years off.
 
@Green oh that situ was 3 months ago; didn't manage to ask her out earlier due to classes and all the stuff keeping me busy
 
Nah, make sure there's no body to find. All it takes is some (un)lucky person to find the body or the skeleton and the hunt is on for the murderer.
 
Does the unicorn's field of view allow it to see his own spike?
 
Ah, Mexican drug-lord style?
 
3:28 PM
@dot_Sp0T Ask her anyway. If she says no then you know. If she says yes, that's pretty valuable intel.
 
@NickAlexeev Can a deer see it's antlers?
 
@Hosch250 Yep. Without a murder weapon and without a body, it's pretty hard to prosecute. Not impossible but much harder.
 
@Hosch250 nope, no fun longterm; did it once and she ended up lifeless and boring, though it was very interesting with her during the 'forbidden' phase. Also disclaimer: I did it because I got to know here, knew she had a BF, tried befriending him as well as her, and he was a total ass-hat without reason - so I returned the favour
 
@Hosch250 Depends of species and gender of deer, I suppose. Deer antlers grow sideways. Unicorn's spike grows straight along the plane if symmetry.
 
@NickAlexeev Not necessarily.
There are african "deer" that have horns that grow like that.
 
3:31 PM
@Hosch250 And make sure that only one person knows what happened. The larger the group of conspirators, the more likely that the conspiracy will be exposed.
 
@Hosch250 you're 4 ?
 
@dot_Sp0T Close enough, I guess.
 
@Green nope not worth, like both too much to do that
@Hosch250 also my recommendation for your lady situation: gtfo, from what you've written my understanding is that it is all based on assumptions on your part. They are assumptions, made by you, based on your experiences in life, etc. Don't get involved because of assumptions, don't even get involved because of facts. It's not worth risk & hassle.
 
I'm not involved. It's mostly my brother.
 
Same recommendation
 
3:45 PM
He's scared to do anything further than just going birding with her as he is now.
With the boyfriend along.
 
Does he like like her?
 
Not as far as I'm aware.
 
good, bc that'd be tough luck
 
He's just more concerned that she's in a life-threatening situation.
 
did she express this sentiment to him?
You can't help people that do not want to be helped, you will only antagonise them or trigger a situation (that just as well might only have come into existence because of you trying to help in the first place)
 
3:49 PM
@dot_Sp0T Apparently somewhat.
She can't really, because her boyfriend monitors her texts.
 
whelp, the brown stuff hit the air conditioning
good luck
 
That's an interesting way of putting it.
 
@kingledion I am strangely enticed of the idea of starting to comment-bomb random answers and questions of you with airship facts... am I procrastinating?
 
@dot_Sp0T You are procrastinating as long as you don't do it.
 
4:11 PM
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MephistophelesTitle: Humans as repair drones Body: The only real advantage humans have over robots is their endurance and fine motor abilities. This would make them a cheap and excellent repair drone, but there are certain problems. What biological modifications should I make to humans to enable them to a...

 
Procrastinating is an art. I am a master. If anyone wants to learn...I will teach you later.
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@James I want to learn how, but I keep pushing it off :(
@James BTW, how did you like my limerick?
 
Patrolling this chat room almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter.
 
Want more?
@Mephistopheles I wouldn't mind that as much as a nuclear summer.
But if you want a nuclear winter, you are probably in the right place. This community is probably the only non-governmental agency that could make it happen.
 
@Hosch250 @James always wants more limmericks.
 
4:23 PM
@Hosch250 And the only one that makes you wish you could...
 
I'd feel sad if we lost you to a nuclear winter.
 
Still better than Johnny Guitar
 
4:39 PM
Limericks are the dumpster fire of poetry.
 
They aren't poetry. They're fun.
 
Yes they are, no they're not.
 
@James Poetry is its own dumpster fire.
 
OK, I'm a poet. That reduces the level of non-annoyance expected from me, I guess. Got to keep up the league's reputation.
Time for computer updates.
 
Like every poet I know died miserably, went missing, got hit by a train, contracted syphilis or was half-blind.
 
4:47 PM
@Mephistopheles what is that supposed to mean?
I once met a man names James. He was one that everyone blames. This doesn't work out, I'm getting out.
(I don't know what limericks are)
 
@Hosch250 You called?
 
@dot_Sp0T Attila József was hit by a train, Endre Ady contracted an STD, and Ferenc Kölcsey became half-blind when he was a child.
Attila József (Hungarian: [ˈɒtillɒ ˈjoːʒɛf]; 11 April 1905 – 3 December 1937) was a Hungarian poet of the 20th century. == Biography == The son of Áron József - a soap factory worker of Székely and Romanian origin from Banat - and a Hungarian peasant girl with Cuman ancestry - Borbála Pőcze - was born in Ferencváros, a poor district of Budapest. He had two elder sisters: Eta and Jolán. When Attila József was three years old he was sent to live with foster parents after his father abandoned the family and his mother became ill. Because the name Attila was not well known at the time, his foster...
 
@Mephistopheles and what does that have to do with this chat?
 
@dot_Sp0T My bad, forgot to check what you were replying to, sorry for the incovenience
I was just explaining why poetry was a dumpster fire on its own.
Well, at least being a poet.
 
5:06 PM
@dot_Sp0T I think I'm going to follow your good example and make myself a map.
What did you use to draw out your map?
 
@Green I'm guessing crayons.
 
@James I'm gonna try with Inkscape.
 
@Green of what?
 
@dot_Sp0T Some landscape that I invent.
 
@Green also I used ClipStudio Paint Pro
@Green sweet, let's start off a mapping rush on the stack
 
5:13 PM
@dot_Sp0T Is that a vector or bitmap image editor?
 
@Green both; it's mainly used by manga artists afaiu though, so it's mostly geared towards making comics, etc.
 
@dot_Sp0T Oh fancy!
 
I need to work on a picture. I designed an ocean side city built into and on top of a 200 ft tall cliff. There are big caves in the bottom that ships can sail into. The port is literally under the city.
@dot_Sp0T Maps are awesome.
 
@James sounds like a solid set of questions
@James they are
 
I created it on the fly while running my DnD campaign. Freaking players are random. "Hey lets go visit those mage islands" for no reason what-so-ever... eyeroll
 
5:16 PM
@James don't give them a mage-island in the first place duh
 
@James Whatever. You're just as excited to go explore new places and fly by the seat of your pants as they are. I've got hours and hours of audio of you flying with your pants on fire.
 
but its a sweet idea, I also gave it magic powered elevators.
 
@James uh? lahame
 
@Green Yeah...that's kinda my thing
 
@Green looking forward to your map!
 
5:18 PM
@dot_Sp0T I'll ping you when I have something to show.
 
@dot_Sp0T They have a meter of AABBA.
Usually humorous (or, as James would say, usually humorless).
@Green You guys play DnD together?
 
@Hosch250 oh, so I almost did it
 
Yep. You are close.
 
@Hosch250 No. There was a podcast that we worked on with @AndyD273 for a few years. It has died a slow death.
 
Oh.
LOL.
Any of you read The Gentle Grafter?
 
5:28 PM
I never had my guest-starring
 
@dot_Sp0T I'm sorry.
But, Inkscape makes building topo maps crazy easy!
 
Is there a common word resources such as coal, iron, other ores, grains, etc.? basically the base or simpel resources?
 
5:43 PM
@dot_Sp0T You just want a list of the major raw materials that your city might consume?
 
"RAW MATERIALS
THANK YOU
I wanted that bloody word
(or rather two words)
 
hahahhahah! You're very welcome.
 
@dot_Sp0T Commodity?
 
@dot_Sp0T Yep, I see absolutely no way that random airship facts on non-related posts would be annoying
also, commodity is a better word when covering both 'raw materials' and grown materials; grain isn't usually considered a raw material
 
6:00 PM
Sandbox question is feature-complete. Please go feedback and judge the hell out of it so I can push it before the weekend :D
 
6:11 PM
Linky?
 
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dot_Sp0TRingstadt: How sensible is my topology geography geology hydrology reality-check Look at you all sitting here. Quite some of you have probably never ventured beyond the outskirts of this city, mayhaps not even past the wall? You've spent your whole lives in this place, but what do you actual...

 
Looks great.
Hi, @Bellerophon.
 
6:38 PM
I added an intro to the question as recommended by @Secespitus - if anyone wants to have a quick look. The intro part is new to me and I am not sure if the amount of information necessary/duplicated outweighs the additional size it adds
 
@dot_Sp0T Looks good! I added a few stylistic things, but I think it's ready to go.
 
@Secespitus I tried cropping the img with paint, the dotted line is a visual guide to separate the map from the notice area
@Secespitus from quickly googling it seems that the ampersand is more informal than the written out version. I personally often use both in situations where I have nested ands to keep the overview (like alternating brackets [such as here])
 
6:58 PM
@dot_Sp0T Wouldn't that be an indicator of a convoluted sentence structure that should be split into multiple easier-to-digest sentences?
 
@Secespitus nah, it's totally normal in my conworld-grammar
 
XD nice excuse
 
:)
Also cropped img is up
 
Looks good, thanks.
 
cheers
Do you think it matters if I push it now or in an hour?
 
7:02 PM
Depends on how long you are still online. It's always a good idea to be available for a while to respond to clarification requests and challenge close votes. :D
 
guess I'll push now; I will only remove the question part from my sandbox answer and keep the other half around for when I open the next sandbox question (so I can reuse it; and work throught the spinoffs one-by-one. See any problem with that?
 
Cleaning up the comments would be necessary. But not a big problem.
 
Cleaning up the votes might be necessary too :)
 
@Hosch250 That's normally a problem, but I suspect dot is aware that 3 upvotes on the "new" draft wouldn't mean that it's immediately ready for posting, so I suspect that's also not a big problem in this specific case. And we can clean those up, too, once the new draft is written. A little Sandbox note in the draft about these things and everything should be okay.
 
7:34 PM
We definitely need a bigger part of regulars visiting the sandbox; I'm getting feedbacks which I was hoping to filter out through the SB
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7:48 PM
Oh, @dot_Sp0T, think you could add the index lines, or whatever they are called?
The ones on the topo maps that have elevation so you can tell which way a slope is going?
I think they are every 5th line, and are often slightly heavier.
 
@Hosch250 I did(?)
 
Hmm, I must be blind then.
 
I admit the writing might be slightly small when looking at the whole map at once on 12" monitors (as the one I am using right now; but it should be discernible on a 24" monitor (which should be standard for most computers, not?)
 
There it is.
I couldn't see it in the image in the post. I had to go to the image and blow it up full-size.
 
@Hosch250 yeah, that I can't really make much better; it's quite an area and the lod I work with for buildings, etc. on the map has the smallest detail being around 4-5m real-size; the original has some 2400 dpi on an DIN A3 canvas size..^^
 
7:55 PM
Yeah, no problem.
 
Also thanks for the feedback, the level of attention this map & question is getting is making me a very happy WB user
It is always a pleasure to see a question getting attention, rewarding the time put into crafting it
@HDE226868 thought you might want to know that the map Q is on the main now
 
@Mithrandir24601 A friend of mine forwarded me this paper/writeup. I have no idea why he thought it would be very comprehensible for me: arxiv.org/pdf/quant-ph/0508124.pdf
@dot_Sp0T Ah, thanks. Reading now.
Yeah, it looks good.
 
8:11 PM
Thank you for your feedback as well
 
I think @Green and the Sandbox people did a heck of a lot more than me. . . But you're welcome.
 
Every bit counts; and yes @Green did a cartload of help on it!
 
8:34 PM
I never thought stuff like this existed: mewo2.com/notes/terrain
 
8:48 PM
@HDE226868 Oooh, MBQC/cluster state QC - nice! :)
 
9:02 PM
@Mithrandir24601 I understood . . . some words in that message.
 
@HDE226868 So, most people think of a quantum computer as: Start with qubits (2-level quantum systems), in a separable (unentangled) state, and evolve them using some unitary matrix (the circuit, which does things such as perform entangling operations), then measure. However, there are alternatives - one such (particularly useful when considering certain models of error correction or photonics) is 'measurement based' or 'cluster state',
where all the entanglement is done at the start, before the 'circuit'. Here the 'circuit' consists of single qudit/qubit operations combined with measurements. They're equivalent - just have different uses - MBQC is good because it means that each e.g. photon only has a couple of components to go though (after the state is generated), which is a major problem in photonic QC
See this answer for a more detailed explanation, although this is always something I'm happy to talk about :)
 
9:42 PM
@Mithrandir24601 Ahhh, I think I understand. That makes . . . a lot more sense. Thanks!
 
 
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11:36 PM
ow ow ow ow ow
 
Recovering from some potent ají
(Columbian version of pico de gallo)
@Mephistopheles How are you?
 
@FoxElemental Checking the sandbox (I have a question there), sorting files on my computer, planning my next step here. And you?
 
Meh. My Sticky Notes app just seems to have vanished, and that's where I keep all of my notes concerned with worldbuilding, the language I'm constructed, and the stories I'm working on, as well as reminders for myself, goals, and lists of LaTeX commands
 
@FoxElemental How did your sticky notes app just vanish?
 
11:42 PM
@FoxElemental Just to make you feel better: I once lost a .txt file with all my passwords, smurfs, and usernames in it.
And Mass Efect 2
 
@Mephistopheles Ouch
@Angel Not vanish. But it shows as "not responding"
 
Roblox death sound here
 
Huh? Well if it's not responding can't you shut down the program and just start it again?
 
But then I risk losing my stuff
Oh, yeah. I also lost the lists of every single letter and its alt code I'd noted
 
Oh, so this sticky notes app doesn't have a save function?
...that's terrible.
 
11:45 PM
I know
 
Is sticky notes still a thing?
 
Might as well just use actual physical sticky notes in that case.
 
Not long enough
I keep pages and pages of notes, since they have a scroll function
 
@FoxElemental Have you considered writing all your future notes on somewhere like google docs? It's free and everything you write is automatically saved to the cloud.
 
I try word for some things
But a lot of things are really spur-of-the-moment I need to write this down digitally for copy+pasting so I can have it in an instant
 
11:50 PM
Well then always have a google docs tab open on your browser.
That's what I do.
 
Hmm
I might consider that
Once the program is up and running again
But in any case I'll start saving the text onto an emergency doc . . . once daily to once weekly
 
Why not just have multiple instances, for extra redundancy.
 
Uh oh
It's actually my computer
 

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