@MonicaCellio @Shokhet @TRiG @msh210 WAF provided the full set of eight. He's still open to suggestions for improvement.
He told me that someone saw his work and said "That looks like a Christmas tree." So, uh, we now have the awesomest Chanuka bush ever on our hands. Is that a problem?
Seriously, will people see this as a gesture toward ecumenicism?
Should I ask him to make a version that loses the treeness by smoothing out the branches and mono-colors the leaf-flames?
@IsaacMoses I'm not seeing the Christmas tree. But that 50% of people polled see it is a bad thing. That 100% of people polled, who haven't seen the MY logo before, see this as a Christmas tree, is a bad thing, too.
@IsaacMoses Mono-coloring the flames may well help. I'm not sure what you mean by smoothing out the branches, but it probably couldn't hurt.
@msh210 I'm confused. What part is it that you think won't look good? (that's what I assumed, because if you follow the chat responses back you eventually get back to curving out the branches of the tree-menorah)
Incidentally, while you and I both are here, @Shokhet, I'd like to commend you on your sitewide helpfulness. Comments greeting newbies, edits clarifying posts, votes to close IIRC, other stuff. Y'yasher kochacha.
@Shokhet That is, indeed, the part I can't picture coming out good. That doesn't mean it won't come out good, though, and it may well be worth a try; hence, I don't agree with "leave the points in".
@msh210 I just don't think that the points are a problem to begin with, besides the fact that removing them might make it harder to associate these pictures with the logo.
(Also, I'm not sure how removing them would take care of the "Hannukah bush" problem)
@IsaacMoses I just noticed that isaacemoses.info indicates you're in the "Greater St. Louis Area" whereas judaism.stackexchange.com/users/2/isaac-moses indicates you're in "Silver Spring, MD". I didn't know St. Louisans' metrocentricity/chauvinism extended its metro area that far east. :-P
@IsaacMoses wow, those are great! I don't see a christmas tree, for what that's worth. Possibly the flames/leaves could be a little bigger (try scaling this to the size you'll use on the page and then decide). If we want to unify the flame color then my first thought is yellow (that says flame to me more than red does), but either way please test for legibility with a B&W printout since I suspect not everybody will print in color.
Oh, and christmas trees, in addition to being evergreens, are conical -- pointy top, triangle-ish profile. They don't fan out. I've no actual experience with "Chanukah bushes" (l'havdil).
@msh210 Silver Spring is about 250 miles from Pittsburgh -- a 4- to 4.5-hour drive, depending. I haven't checked mileage to St. Louis, but I know it's way more than a 4-hour drive. (I'm thinking 8 or 9?)
@IsaacMoses IDK......now it looks like it's kind of hanging in the air, instead of off the branch....what if we use one of the spurs on the right or on the left for the shamash?
(or, instead of curling the center branch tighter, we might unwind it a little so we have a flat point for the leaf/flame to rest on?)
Neiros Shabbos - No 95 shows a picture of a Chanuka Menora from the 15th century in Sicily.
Jewish Art Museum of Minessota has 2 pictures of Menoras from the 13th century. One from Avignon and the other from Germany /Northern France.
According to this press release - The Living Torah Museum ha...
That would also fill up all the space - no 400 words in there right now!
Right now i'm linking to images with shortened goo.gl links
@TRiG Thanks for the input. That's reassuring. I think that with multicolored lights, it may look like a nod toward a "Hanukkah bush," although it seems that those tend to be evergreen, as well.
@Scimonster I don't know much and IANAL, I recommend googling "fair use" picture and reading a bit about it. I just did such skimming, and it looks like there's room to get away with it. It'd be great to find pics, where available, that are already licensed for uses like ours (e.g. CC-BY).
History of the Chanukiah
How old is the chanukiyah?
Monica Cellio asked1: Another question (below) asks about the differentiation between the words "chanukiyah" and "menorah" when referring to the special 8-branched (+1 for the shamash, helper light) candelabra for Chanukah. An answer there sug...
@Scimonster I think it has to do with "Would someone be less likely to use the original thanks to your re-using their content in your derivative work?"
We now have eight days' worth of edited content for "Chanuka - Mi Yodeya?." The next step is to make sure that each of these sections gets a good once-over by someone who didn't do the first edit, to help make sure that the content is high-quality and accessible.
So, please select one (or more!)...
@Scimonster Probably true, but it's best to avoid "might appreciate"-type logic, just in case you're not correct! It's like zakin le-adam shelo befanav only if it's very clear that there's no loss to him mixed with the presumed benefit.
@Scimonster I haven't read that (or another) write-up on fair use (lately), but don't forget (if it's relevant) that the Web site that our publication is advertising is for-profit.
@msh210 It's a bit complicated, since MY is an informal, non-revenue community hosted by said for-profit web site, and we are more directly advertising the community (while giving due appreciation to the host)
Neiros Shabbos - No 95 shows a picture of a Chanuka Menora from the 15th century in Sicily.
Jewish Art Museum of Minessota has 2 pictures of Menoras from the 13th century. One from Avignon and the other from Germany /Northern France.
According to this press release - The Living Torah Museum ha...
History of the Chanukiah
How old is the chanukiyah?
Monica Cellio asked1: Another question (below) asks about the differentiation between the words "chanukiyah" and "menorah" when referring to the special 8-branched (+1 for the shamash, helper light) candelabra for Chanukah. An answer there sug...
