The DMZ

Anonymous

1:00 PM

I mean, there's a reasonable level of paranoia for sure.

Anonymous

I met my girlfriend on the internet, it's hard to build trust at first, for sure.

MechMK1

Sure, yeah

But time is generally the best indicator

Scammers want to get money fast

So they try to push forward

Anonymous

Yeah, pretty much.

MechMK1

Whereas people who look for a relationship generally enjoy spending time with each other

Contrary to popular belief, scammers won't talk to the average joe for 6 months, just to ask for 200 USD

That's just not feasible

Anonymous

Yeah, for the most part. I guess it also depends on how much you can provide.

MechMK1

1:03 PM

You can see that really well in scambaiting videos. In the beginning, scammers are super nice, but once they caught the scent of money, they become extremely pushy.

Anonymous

For example, if they know you're well off, they can latch on longer because they'll get a lot more than that from a bunch of small scams.

MechMK1

@Jis12yearsold. True. Your threat model as billionaire is different than as joe shmoe

Anonymous

But for the most part it is generally true that scammers won't "date" you for 2 years.

MechMK1

But most of us aren't billionaires

Anonymous

I don't even think just billionaires.

MechMK1

1:04 PM

Yeah, but generally "wealthy" people

Anonymous

Just if you're more well off than most and show signs of being willing to share it easily.

MechMK1

Which is why I never speak about how well off I am

Anonymous

That's the key part.

Anonymous

How much they're willing to share.

MechMK1

Affluent people tend to like to show off how affluent they are.

reed

1:05 PM

the threat of romance scams can be mitigated by hating everybody

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Anonymous

If someone earns $30,000 a year but is willing to share $20,000 of it. That has the chance for more profit than someone who earns $50,000 but will only share $10,000.

Anonymous

@reed Hah, yes.

MechMK1

The best scambaiting for a romance scam I've ever seen was a guy being really into "her"

Anonymous

I used that logic till I met my girlfriend...

MechMK1

And then like a month later mentioning he's 13

Anonymous

1:06 PM

As far as in real life goes, I find 99% of people intolerable.

Anonymous

My girlfriend is in the .1% of people I do not.

Anonymous

But the rule of hating everyone does work well...

MechMK1

@Jis12yearsold. My willingness to share depends on the willingness of my partner to contribute

If she's willing to put in effort, I'll put in all the effort I can

Anonymous

Yeah, but some people are willing to share without any effort from anyone.

Anonymous

THose are the ones who are easy to scam with romance scams.

MechMK1

1:07 PM

My mom's boyfriend is like that

He's basically a living child

Never grew up, never learned "the value of money"

He gave thousands and thousands of euro to a homeless guy

Over the span of years

Only for the homeless guy to keep getting more and more rude and more demanding to him

"What? You're only giving me 100 € today?! What the fuck?! Do you want me to starve?!"

It worked

Anonymous

Yeah, I think people like that are the same people who care too much about what others think.

Anonymous

They want everyone to like them for some reason, so they take actions towards that goal (in their mind).

Anonymous

That means giving money. Doing favours. Whatever. But all that happens is people see weakness and want more.

MechMK1

Exactly

The world is truly a horrible place, filled with horrible people.

Anonymous

Yes, yes it is.

MechMK1

1:11 PM

Maybe the fact that I have been abused for half a decade may bias me, but it is how it is.

Half a decade...damn that sounds long

Anonymous

Yeah, don't get me wrong, I am not without some of these qualities.

Anonymous

Although, mine are different. For example, instead of caring too much about what others think, I don't care enough. That in itself causes problems, social problems especially.

MechMK1

I genuinely believe that the kind of woman I desire doesn't exist anymore.

I think altruism and mutual care are dead

Anonymous

Everyone has their own set of negative and positive qualities, so it doesn't make you a worse or better person, it just makes you, you.

MechMK1

Relationships are seen a egoistic endeavours

Which is why cheating runs so rampant. "I only care about the relationship as long as it's a cheap source of dopamine"

Anonymous

1:14 PM

Yeah, that is a good point.

Anonymous

Dating apps have changed dating, a lot. For sure.

Anonymous

Not for the better either. There is such a thing as "too much choice". Which is exactly what those apps provide.

MechMK1

It basically created "simp" culture

Where women are told "you can have a man give you everything, and when he stops, move on to another simp"

And I get why they'd to that. It's a sweet deal. Don't work a day in your life, just live for pleasure

Anonymous

Hmm, yes. This is exactly the reason why I place absolutely zero value or dependence on other.s

Anonymous

It sounds horrible to say but, I don't know how to explain it properly.

Anonymous

1:16 PM

As I have said before, my girlfriend could leave me tomorrow and the following day I'd have totally forgotten about it.

Anonymous

Which makes it sound like I don't value her, I do. But I don't value anything so much I need it...

MechMK1

I've basically given up that I will ever find something like "genuine love"

I don't think it exists, really

Anonymous

Its a weird thing to explain. And it has taken me a long time to feel like that towards things (outside my relationship too)

MechMK1

Anonymous

@MechMK1 There's a lot less of it. Well, I don't like the word love I think its nonsense

MechMK1

1:18 PM

Basically me for the past year

Anonymous

But yeah.

Anonymous

I don't think I've ever said I love you to anyone. I am unlikely ever to.

Anonymous

The word is totally retarded and meaningless.

MechMK1

It hold meaning to me

I want to love

Anonymous

Oh for sure!

MechMK1

1:19 PM

Just nobody wants to love me

Anonymous

I think it holds value for 98% of the population.

reed

I was made for loving you baby, you were made for loving me

Anonymous

It just isn't something I can ever align myself with. I think its misleading and unhelpful as far as an adjective goes.

MechMK1

I don't think that the kind of love I seek really exists.

@reed Let me put on some music

Which is probably why I really have no interest in living either

I'm basically just existing to work and that's it

Anonymous

Same here :)

Anonymous

1:21 PM

Although, I don't want to die anymore. But I wouldn't mind.

Anonymous

I forget how you phrased it before, but like that.

MechMK1

Depression buddies :D

I really wouldn't care

Anonymous

Something like that.

MechMK1

Dude could pull a gun on me during a robbery and I'd tell him to fuck off and bother someone else

Anonymous

I don't really know how to explain my feelings, I'll be entirely honest.

MechMK1

1:22 PM

If he shoots me, I win. if he lets me go, I win.

Anonymous

I never have known how to explain them, I never will.

Anonymous

I think I might be somewhat of a pyschopath.

Anonymous

but whatever

MechMK1

I just stopped caring about everything

Anonymous

well, for me

Anonymous

1:23 PM

the only thing i care about is how much i know

Anonymous

i have little feelings about anything other than that

reed

./relative/path/to/psycho/path

my purpose in life is to become an idiot

Anonymous

^ lol

MechMK1

Relative Path
Absolute Path
Canonical Path
Socio Path

Anonymous

hahahaha

MechMK1

1:25 PM

Which reminds me of the best response:

"Did you know that "Garden" backwards means "nedraG", which makes no sense, just like what the fuck you just wrote."

Journeyman Geek

@reed Or to be 12

Anonymous

Yes, I am 12.

Anonymous

I behave like a 12 year old would, at least.

MechMK1

I forgot how old I am

Let me quickly look it up

Anonymous

You're 26.

Anonymous

1:29 PM

(Soon)

MechMK1

No, 27 soon

I'm 26 right now

Anonymous

Dammit.

Anonymous

I thought you were 25, fuck.

reed

if I changed my name to twelve, then I'd be twelve. I could even use "Yearsold" as a second name

MechMK1

See it doesn't really matter

Anonymous

1:29 PM

I wanted to get it right :(

Anonymous

If I got it right, it'd mean I care. Then you'd know someone cares. Without them telling you they care.

MechMK1

Don't worry, my father also doesn't know how old I am :D

But my mom does :D

After the lockdown, if that ever happens, I'll go on a nice holiday with her for 2 weeks

Anonymous

Nice.

Anonymous

I could think of a million things I'd rather do than holiday with my mum.

MechMK1

At least one thing I can use my money for

reed

1:31 PM

Nobody cares how old a person is, because it changes every year. All that matters is the timestamp of their birth date

MechMK1

@Jis12yearsold. My mom is the only person who ever genuinely loved me

I'd do anything for her

That's not even an exaggeration

reed

Even installing Windows?

MechMK1

Did that not too long ago

Built a PC for her and installed Windows 10 on it

reed

ok, you really love her then. Unless you also installed TeamViewer, then you'd definitely be a scammer

MechMK1

I thought you were going to ask "Would you even commit a murder for her?" and I was going to reply "What do you think the rifle in my closet is for?"

Anonymous

1:33 PM

haha.

reed

guns are for pussies, I think explosives are more interesting. Yesterday I learned the difference between deflagration and detonation

MechMK1

Deflagration is fast burning, isn't it?

Because technically, gunpowerder doesn't detonate - it deflagrates

reed

I thought that the boom of firecrackers was caused by the container, I mean, the sound of the container, but I guess the truth is that the boom is caused by the air wave (maybe faster than the speed of sound)

deflagration is fast burning, yeah, I guess, while detonation is when the wave moves faster than the speed of sound

If I remember correctly

MechMK1

I see

You know what I don't understand?

How people can, with absolute conviction, state that a suppressor on a firearm "makes the shot basically silent".

Anonymous

Can someone explain to me why people hate Jordan Peterson so much?

MechMK1

1:37 PM

@Jis12yearsold. Because he tells them to clean up their room and wash themselves.

Anonymous

Most of the topics I see him talk about are like... Common advices for life.

Anonymous

Is that it?

MechMK1

Yes

Anonymous

I don't get it though.

Anonymous

He seems to make a lot of sense.

Anonymous

1:38 PM

And I am pretty damn far left...

MechMK1

@Jis12yearsold. Sensible claims can come from anyone, regardless of political alignment.

Anonymous

Yeah, I know.

Anonymous

But what I mean is, it seems to be people from my side that hate him.

Anonymous

But I don't really understand why...

MechMK1

It reminds me of a video on the range :D
One guy has a suppressor mounted to his gun, and then he puts on hearing protection. The other guy says "Why you putting that on? You got a can on there". The guy with the gun is like "You'll see" and then starts shooting.

The guy who was smack talking immediately covered his ears.

Now let me ask you: If standing next to a supposedly "silenced" gun is so loud that you need to cover your ears, how exactly is it "basically silent"?

Anonymous

1:44 PM

I don't understand people at all...

reed

I know nothing about weapons, except for my farts (which are rarely silent). I've always thought that silencers on guns would "help" reduce the noise, but not too much

djsmiley2kStaysInside

I thought they basically change it

so instead of a sharp snap sound, it's more.... boofm. ?

fuck I think I might actually have to go to the dentist :|

reed

some silencers actually convert the bang to music, so when somebody shoots you you can hear the Beetles coming out of the muzzle: "All you need is love, love is all you need"

djsmiley2kStaysInside

:D

I want to live in that universe.

ThoriumBR

2:02 PM

so... I installed Joplin a while ago. it's an amazing markdown (markup?) editor that have nice features (instant preview, pdf export, cloud sync, and encryption)...

while testing it, I set up an encryption password, forgot about the password, and went creating LOTS of documentation.

time goes by, I setup a new device, setup sync again, it gets all my notes and notebooks from an encrypted database on dropbox... and what is the key?

I got my password manager, and the key is not there... mild panic, I try my main passwords, my weak passwords, spent the whole morning bruteforcing my own password...

reed

why did you forget about the password instead of writing it down? It's not something I would expect from you

ThoriumBR

and it's a joke password that I usually use for disposable accounts....

reed

yeah, that was the reason

ThoriumBR

it's a password I used to use 20 years ago when I got on the internet for the first time... and it was leaked like 20 million times...

reed

you thought "this is something temporary, I don't really need it", so you used a weak password

ThoriumBR

2:06 PM

yep... I used just to test Joplin because I needed a good documentation editor, so I didn't put much effort on it

reed

see, weak passwords can be useful! LOL

ThoriumBR

now it's on my password manager, and I will have to change it for a real password

reed

if it had been a strong password, 128bits of entropy, you might have had to say goodbye to your notes

ThoriumBR

I could export them one by one, delete the notebook, create another with a good password, reimport everything, wipe it on every other device, and reimport everything

it probably would take less time than spending the whole morning trying all variations of my weak passwords that I used in 2 decades

reed

oh, ok, I thought you had no other way to access the unencrypted docs

ThoriumBR

2:13 PM

I still had one device with Joplin open and all notes decrypted...

reed

in other news: I just realized that something like "cat file | do_something > file" is a bad idea. Race conditions, ouch

ThoriumBR

yep... I found out that a long ago when I tried to grep something and replacing the same file with the grepped version of it, and received an empty file afterwards

time to check versus time to use...

reed

2:28 PM

I was about to write an answer to the new cryptographer in town, but you ninja'd me

so I just left a comment

ThoriumBR

that would make a better answer than mine

forest

8:47 PM

@MechMK1 The hands give it away.

@MechMK1 Ha. Haha. Hahahah. HAHAHAHA. (No they don't)

@Jis12yearsold. I've installed Gentoo probably two dozen times. I can help if you need any.

ThoriumBR

@forest I have once, or twice... it's nice to see

forest

It's a great distro.

ThoriumBR

but I use redhat on the company laptop (mandated, not my choice), and mint on my personal one

forest

I'm not a huge fan of Mint since their security updates always come out too slow.

ThoriumBR

dual boot with windows for the occasional dark souls game

I used to compile my own kernel, and those days security means the browser... so it's not a lot of concern

vivaldi plus noscript globally helps a lot

forest

8:53 PM

But the kernel is what can be used to isolate the browser.

The kernel is always the lowest common denominator.

ThoriumBR

agree!

forest

10:10 PM

@Jis12yearsold.

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You can use RFC 5737 for example IP addresses to make them look more realistic.

> The blocks 192.0.2.0/24 (TEST-NET-1), 198.51.100.0/24 (TEST-NET-2), and 203.0.113.0/24 (TEST-NET-3) are provided for use in documentation.

They're like the 555-01xx phone number of IP addresses.

Nick Alexeev

11:50 PM

Folks, how can I copy a public key out of a certificate? I'd like to get a hex string {0x4a, 0x2d, ...} . I need to do this only one time, so manual method is fine.

forest

@NickAlexeev I'm sure the openssl command line utility can do that.

What type of certificate is it?

Nick Alexeev

DER format

forest

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Q: Extract public key from certificate in DER format

I have a .cer certificate file, and need to extract the Public Key. I can only extract to PEM format. The "outform" parameter does nothing. openssl x509 -inform PEM -in certificate.cer -outform DER -pubkey -noout > publickey.der Is it possible to extract in DER format?