The DMZ

SmokeDispenser

07:02

mornin'

@TildalWave isn't that exactly the same?:)

Rory Alsop

Morning all

SmokeDispenser

@RoryAlsop /o

Rory Alsop

@TildalWave that's lovely

Colin Cassidy

afternoon

Rory Alsop

@ColinCassidy where are you that it's afternoon?

Colin Cassidy

07:09

Seoul

Rory Alsop

ahh - very nice

Colin Cassidy

currently 16:10 local time

Rory Alsop

enjoying it?

Colin Cassidy

yes, in a "I have no idea what you're saying" kinda way

Rory Alsop

I guess more important question: work or pleasure

Colin Cassidy

07:10

work

Rory Alsop

ahhh

Colin Cassidy

and pleasure (if you like your work)

SmokeDispenser

at least it's warm?;)

Rory Alsop

@ColinCassidy gadget shopping before returning home?

SmokeDispenser

(and after work might be some pleasure-time left?)

Colin Cassidy

07:19

it's not too warm, actually just about right, and ready to do the tourist thing. Their subway system is pretty good, wouldn`t recommend the busses

SmokeDispenser

have fun then :) how long are you there?

Colin Cassidy

this is week 2, flying back at the weekend

SmokeDispenser

so work over easter?

Colin Cassidy

yep, and they dont even have easter over here.... no chocolate eggs for me, but then again I also dont have the horrors of seeing Watership Down :)

Rory Alsop

hahahahah - the nonsense flying around t'Internet about Watership Down this weekend

Colin Cassidy

07:26

I know right

Rory Alsop

@ColinCassidy I did like the comment by Jez Hunt for those people objecting to it:

SmokeDispenser

... is that a english thing?

Rory Alsop

> "... it's Easter, the festival to celebrate how a Jewish man was tortured, then had nails hammered into hands and feet and left to slowly die, before someone stabbed him, all just because he said to be nice to each other. Watership Down is nothing in comparison to that."

Colin Cassidy

and yet all the more horrific :)

Rоry McCune

Mornin' All

Rory Alsop

07:29

@RоryMcCune o/

SmokeDispenser

alright, seems to be an english thing.

Rory Alsop

@ColinCassidy bunnies? horrific? this isn't Monty Python, you know

SmokeDispenser

@RоryMcCune mornin'

Rory Alsop

@SmokeDispenser yarr:

Watership Down

Watership Down is a classic adventure novel, written by English author Richard Adams, published by Rex Collings Ltd of London in 1972. Set in southern England, the story features a small group of rabbits. Although they live in their natural environment, they are anthropomorphised, possessing their own culture, language, proverbs, poetry, and mythology. Evoking epic themes, the novel follows the rabbits as they escape the destruction of their warren and seek a place to establish a new home, encountering perils and temptations along the way. Watership Down was Richard Adams' first novel. Although...

Colin Cassidy

indeed, monty python was at least amusing

SmokeDispenser

07:30

@RoryAlsop did wiki myself, thanks. I did see it, as a kid, but that is ages ago.

Rory Alsop

Monty Python Bunny Scene

►

Colin Cassidy

And the LORD spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin, then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it."

amen

SmokeDispenser

!;)

monty python. just great.

Rory Alsop

Can't go wrong with a bit of Python in the morning

erm... wait... that came out wrong-ish

SmokeDispenser

:DD

Colin Cassidy

07:36

nudge nudge

SmokeDispenser

@RoryAlsop, starred.

Matthew

Morning

silverpenguin

@kalina waves see kalina is nice >_> she said bye

morning everyone!

Matthew

08:18

@RoryAlsop I'm sure they've shown it on Christmas Day before...

M'vy

08:28

hey

Matthew

@M'vy Hello

SmokeDispenser

08:46

hey @M'vy, @Matthew

@silverpenguin sooo.... that happend:)

silverpenguin

09:02

@SmokeDispenser what happened what did i miss...shouldnt you be napping ol timer?

Matthew

I've not even read the question, but seeing this on my hot network questions sidebar amused me...

25

Q: Does my chicken like being touched?

I recently unlocked the chicken coop and then I bought a chicken. I noticed that I can pet the chicken once per day and a little heart displays above its head. I've done this every day for almost an entire season and I'm not seeing any benefits from it. Does petting it serve any sort of food pro...

stardew-valley

SmokeDispenser

09:24

@silverpenguin kalina being nice to you.

@silverpenguin also, naps are rare at the workplace :)

@Matthew sometimes, HNQ are good for a laugh. gaming is a good bet. "Why do my friends get angry when I shoot them in the head?"

Rory Alsop

My mailman was good to me today

My Skeptics swag, and my prize from the Lumeta competition at CRESTCon

SmokeDispenser

ah, that's sceptics. was wondering. mod swag or top page swag?

Rory Alsop

@SmokeDispenser top page

I'm not a mod over there

SmokeDispenser

@RoryAlsop didn't care to look that up ;)

nice :)

grats then :)

Rory Alsop

the t-shirts are lovely quality

SmokeDispenser

09:29

yeah. I'm not getting any swag soon;) But I'm pretty jelly of sec.se swag;)

yet, I managed to get past the edit-review theshold today after being here for some days:)

silverpenguin

@SmokeDispenser my boss has a picture of me sleeping at my desk

SmokeDispenser

"actually" is probably the most abused word in all of SE.

"actually, I'm writing code" - you don't say.

seems to be a false friend not only in german<-> english :)

silverpenguin

@SmokeDispenser when people talk to me like I need to learn a language "actually I am a PHP developer already I know this shit"

@SmokeDispenser what?

SmokeDispenser

@silverpenguin We have couches for naps.

@silverpenguin in what feels like 90% of the use of "actually", what is meant is "currently"

bilbo_pingouin

@SmokeDispenser also works for French... pretty much the same way

silverpenguin

09:37

I work in a business complex, I found a couch once in a room when I did an all nighter... smallest couch ever

SmokeDispenser

at least for german, getting confused makes sense, as "Aktuell schreibe ich ein Programm" means "currently, I'm writing a program" and gets translated quite often as "actually, I'm writing a progam"

@bilbo_pingouin From the user names, I guess the same is true for even more languages, preferably from asia.

bilbo_pingouin

@SmokeDispenser actuellement is more nowadays than currently... but you can still get that issue

SmokeDispenser

oh, my, two penguins.

bilbo_pingouin

nope... only one. I'm a pingouin ;-)

Rory Alsop

@bilbo_pingouin hahahaha - still counts

SmokeDispenser

09:39

where's the difference, except the spelling?

bilbo_pingouin

technically it doesn't count... French speakers always like to do something different than others... so a pingouin translates as razorback...

SmokeDispenser

@bilbo_pingouin ... because WTF not.

bilbo_pingouin

razorbill

the correct translation for a penguin is manchot... but that sounds much less cute... and I doubt half of the French speaking population knows the difference

bilbo_pingouin

09:52

sorry, didn't want to interrupt the conversation...

Matthew

There wasn't much conversation anyway...

HamZa

^

silverpenguin

apprently you have a silver penguin and a dyslexic one

Rоry McCune

Here's What Happens When an 18 Year Old Buys a Mainframe

►

silverpenguin

e_e

Rоry McCune

09:56

^^ kid buys a mainframe...

Rory Alsop

and I used to live next door to 2 1/2 million Magellanic penguins - does that count?

silverpenguin

@RoryAlsop how many did you cuddle

@RоryMcCune man I wish I had the same patience as others / able to see colours I would love do do electronics.. but I have a passionate HATE for any work that potentially involves colours

HamZa

github.com/longld/peda

Rory Alsop

10:20

@silverpenguin none - stinky, flea-ridden, noisy, vicious, thieving little gits, the lot of 'em

@silverpenguin I have an ex-flatmate who is very colour blind. He works as an electrical engineer. Building nuclear submarines.

silverpenguin

@RoryAlsop of which country?

@RoryAlsop cuddle them you old foggie!

Rory Alsop

@silverpenguin ours

@silverpenguin never - they aren't cute when you're sat next to them

silverpenguin

@RoryAlsop LoL x degrees of seperation eh

Matthew

0

Q: Please correct the errors in this program, if any

import java.io.BufferedReader; import java.io.File; import java.io.FileNotFoundException; import java.io.FileReader; import java.io.IOException; import java.io.*; public class dictionaryattack { public class wordsSelector { public static void main...

java password-cracking wpa2

Rory Alsop

thanks @Matthew

Matthew

10:27

@RoryAlsop Ta. Always helps to get these things caught quickly!

Rory Alsop

@Matthew yup - review queue gets 'em, but it takes a bit of time

Mark Buffalo

10:39

eh

That's ugly code

I'd VTC on account of that alone

Matthew

They haven't quite grasped why it's been closed...

-2

Q: Please correct the errors in this program, if any, I am developing for penetration testing wpa &wpa2

import java.io.BufferedReader; import java.io.File; import java.io.FileNotFoundException; import java.io.FileReader; import java.io.IOException; import java.io.*; public class dictionaryattack { public class wordsSelector { public static void main...

penetration-test java wpa2

silverpenguin

apparently setting someones first time password to "willdanceformoney" was unprofessional of me -___-

Mark Buffalo

@silverpenguin To a female's computer...?

silverpenguin

@MarkBuffalo no a males

Mark Buffalo

Still not good... it could suggest dancing NAKED for MONEY. Suggesting someone is a STRIPPER

silverpenguin

10:45

@MarkBuffalo compared to what the other 3 previous ideas were this one was the least offensive xD ... they judged me then the other admin kept changing the guys password to mess with him when trying to change his password xD ....

Mark Buffalo

Yea, but in a work setting, you shouldn't do stuff like that

people get offended easy, and lawsuits can happen

best to just be professional

silverpenguin

@MarkBuffalo yeaa i guess! lol no one had a go at me just a jibe xD how are admins meant to have any fun around here >_>

Today an admin / second most senior dev... tomorrow....president of Trump Land adventure park and arcade (previously known as USA)

Matthew

@silverpenguin Password manager, random password, enforced change on login. No fun! Fun is for the weekends and evenings!

NO FUN

silverpenguin

@Matthew but but FFUFUNNNNNN T_____T it was only for 2 minutes I told him the password for everyone to hear lol (it was not that important, obviously)

Matthew

No! Fun! For! You!

silverpenguin

11:00

@Matthew :< selfish :< :< :< :< maaannnn I wana work in info sec im SO bored of this shit e_e

in other news my boss came in at 9:10 and was surprised I was already here and mentioned I was here really early today xD

Rory Alsop

Morning @Terry

Terry Chia

@RoryAlsop Hello.

SmokeDispenser

@Matthew :DD

Mark Buffalo

Morning

silverpenguin

@MarkBuffalo wow ye are awake early!

SmokeDispenser

11:12

@silverpenguin how about "passwordonewordalllowercase" next time?

@silverpenguin, that's a hell of a lot of fun to tell people on the phone.

(or in person)

silverpenguin

@SmokeDispenser you are a smart man, this will be the next one

Mark Buffalo

grrrrrrr

silverpenguin

@MarkBuffalo the buffalo growls while defending cake from the younger buffalo

Mark Buffalo

I'm actually just really pissed

Just made a 5th car payment because this bank is stupid

silverpenguin

@MarkBuffalo how come mr gruffalo :<

ahh i see

well they will just refund it right?

Mark Buffalo

11:16

and yesterday I finally got the excess funds back... but I ended up having to put down an extra 3 this month

silverpenguin

@MarkBuffalo extra 3?

Simon

@kalina Shut top biggest nurd of all time.

silverpenguin

@Simon hola

Simon

Hey there.

M'vy

hello Simon

Simon

11:27

Morning Yves.

silverpenguin

@Simon simon you dont have anything to do, fancy doing my homework for me?

Simon

Homework is not a term that exists in my vocabulary.

Rory Alsop

@Simon need to learn more words

M'vy

@silverpenguin depends. Do you fancy getting rekt-ed when you turn it in?

Simon

@RoryAlsop Yeah it's a hard task.

silverpenguin

11:30

@M'vy man if you can just bulk it out to 8 pages and make it slightly on topic i will just do it at the referral... i shouldnt have left it to last minute

M'vy

The procrastination is strong with this one.

Simon

Oh lawd, page requisites, good times.

Been encouraging students to bullshit since 1783.

silverpenguin

BRB need to go eat japanese food and shop for my rio de janero holiday... I mean erm damn that homework

seriously though, need to do the food and holiday shopping... ignoring my homework... which i was going to ignore my job to do

i got this procrastination thing mastered

M'vy

PANIC MONSTER!

Mark Buffalo

SEJPM

11:41

-2

Q: spam solution, Alteon L4 switch => enables compatibility?

I'm a beginner network engineer. But, I've got a assignment to proceed configuration by myself.. First of all, please see the below network design. As you can easily see, there are devices such as Spam solution, Alteon L4 switch and Mail servers. I'm wondering if compatibility is doing well ...

cisco

this may actually be suited for network.SE

bilbo_pingouin

@MarkBuffalo I can think of a few jokes about it, but none of them are suitable for a public chat... :-/

Simon

@MarkBuffalo Nice picture of a screen, do they make it for men?

Rоry McCune

12:04

medium.com/@rubiimeow/…

heh

AviD

Simon

@AviD Can confirm: was born this way.

AviD

@Simon collegehumor.com/post/7036384/canada-tumblr

Simon

o pls I don't click on collegehumor links, I don't wanna turn into you guys.

SmokeDispenser

@Simon pls, you know you want :D

JukEboX

12:08

Morning

AviD

@Simon WORTH IT

Arperum

@AviD Last time I saw that picture it was claiming it was a Russian hatchling.

AviD

@Arperum yeah makes more sense. Looks like one too.

IS THAT A REAL THING

Matthew

@AviD I think it was mentioned in one of the Little House on the Prairie books...

SmokeDispenser

hey. before I ask the question and get ranted away (like I would if I read the question): If JS is used in-browser to decrypt data from a server and the whole page including all resources comes from the same server that is behind bars with audited updates and a mandatory tls connection, are there ways this might still break? Think of: software that runs on the server is audited to deliver correct JS and only include that JS in the site.

AviD

12:21

@SmokeDispenser nccgroup.trust/us/about-us/newsroom-and-events/blog/2011/august/…

SmokeDispenser

@AviD, that is exactly what I'd link to if I read the question

AviD

@SmokeDispenser what question

SmokeDispenser

(and what I've linked to before;))

> are there ways this might still break?

AviD

besides everything else, if you protect the JS properly, you basically dont need the js crypto anymore...

@SmokeDispenser it says it in that article

SmokeDispenser

I know that it's a chicken-egg-problem. Thing is: if there were laws keeping one from using the trust to decrypt the data on the server and send it, but not to deliver the JS properly, are there ways that might still break?

AviD

12:26

you still have the csprng problem

SmokeDispenser

let's be honest here: I don't think that is a good idea. at all.

AviD

and key storage

and basically, I still come back to you need TLS to do it right, in which case you dont need anything else.

SmokeDispenser

@AviD, that is only true in theory. I could use the trust in the server to decrypt it there - if law allowed presence of the plain text data on the server. If not, not so much

AviD

@SmokeDispenser I'm not clear on your scenario.

Thomas Pornin

@bilbo_pingouin Note that the polar explorer Jean-Baptiste Charcot was of a different opinion; he insisted on using the term pingouin to designate manchots because of the etymology (derived from Italian pinguini, which means penguins, not auks).

SmokeDispenser

12:30

Thought so. Then I might have to stall this for as long as the NDA keeps me from being more verbose:/

Mark Buffalo

Side note, any time someone uses the word "trust," I'm immediately suspicious of them

SmokeDispenser

@MarkBuffalo, me too.

Mark Buffalo

At least when it's used in the context of trusting them

Thomas Pornin

@AviD Yes, it is called tire d'érable and it is completely real. And sugary.

Mark Buffalo

I hate that word.

AviD

12:31

@MarkBuffalo ah was gonna say

SEJPM

@MarkBuffalo should I trust you with that?

AviD

@MarkBuffalo flurp.

Mark Buffalo

@SEJPM no

AviD

@MarkBuffalo Flurp me, it'll be fiiine, I promise!

Mark Buffalo

Also, a web domain with a ".trust" TLD.. nope

AviD

12:32

@MarkBuffalo What's the matter, don't you flurp me?

Mark Buffalo

That's just horrid

AviD

@MarkBuffalo .flurp

SmokeDispenser

let's say I've come across a system I distrust personally from a gut feeling. I'm just not sure if that is because some assumptions are fishy or I am overly suspicious:)

AviD

@RоryMcCune MAKE THIS HAPPEN

Mark Buffalo

@AviD do you have a browser plugin that does this?

AviD

12:32

@MarkBuffalo if I remember correctly, NCC bought the .trust TLD.

@MarkBuffalo MAKE THIS HAPPEN

Mark Buffalo

@AviD ERRRRRRRRRGGGGGGG

SmokeDispenser

@AviD that looks delicious!

AviD

@MarkBuffalo its a business thing

Rоry McCune

@MarkBuffalo nccgroup.trust/uk

it's already a thing

SmokeDispenser

> Total Information Assurance

AviD

12:34

nccgroup.flurp/uk

make it happen

SEJPM

@MarkBuffalo .trust isn't available yet

List of Internet top-level domains

This list of Internet top-level domain extensions contains all top-level domains, which are those domains in the DNS root zone of the Domain Name System of the Internet. The official list of all top-level domains is maintained by the Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA). IANA also oversees the approval process for new proposed top-level domains. As of January 2016, the root domain contains 1205 top-level domains, while a few have been retired and are no longer functional. == Types == As of 2015, IANA distinguishes the following groups of top-level domains: infrastructure top-level domain...

SmokeDispenser

Am I the only one to think of "Total War"?

Rоry McCune

@AviD sure , just send $185,000 to me via western union and I'll get right on it

@SEJPM yeah it is

whodoyou.trust

SEJPM

@RоryMcCune damn outdated wikipedia :/

Rоry McCune

@SEJPM well 'tis easier for me to know as my work e-mail address is a .trust one

Matthew

12:36

@RоryMcCune Was going to say...

Rоry McCune

which incidentally breaks quite a few e-mail regexes on websites

Matthew

@RоryMcCune So many bad regexes...

Rоry McCune

where they mistakenly assume it'll be three letters or less in the last bit

SmokeDispenser

@RоryMcCune aliases do, too.

Rоry McCune

@SmokeDispenser yeah people have not read their RFCs

SmokeDispenser

12:37

that one get's me quite often.

SEJPM

@RоryMcCune .navy

Matthew

@SEJPM Does "inthe.navy" exist, and if not, why not?

Rоry McCune

@SEJPM oh there's loads in the new gTLD list that break that "rule"

SmokeDispenser

I like to use aliases for services I sign up for, so I know which service to blame to have to change the spam address. most of the time: nope, not a valid email;)

Rоry McCune

it's just a load of websites don't understand the problem

SEJPM

12:39

"Target market : defense contractors"

Rоry McCune

@Matthew I wanted foo.bar but they TLD people reserved it :(

SEJPM

.arpa?

SmokeDispenser

my employer has unkaputt.bar

SEJPM

@SmokeDispenser funny

SmokeDispenser

(german for undestroy.able)

Rоry McCune

12:40

@SmokeDispenser nice

SEJPM

wow, turkish president Erdogan was so upset by german satire, he wanted to talk to the german Ambassador about it :/

Mark Buffalo

@RоryMcCune I just visited it.yup, I don't trust funky TLDs. Nice little research thingymabobby

Simon

@AviD Of course it is.

SEJPM

@MarkBuffalo .buffalo?

Arperum

@Matthew endless.horse is a thing though.

SEJPM

12:43

will stackexchange.tips be a thing?

Simon

What about avidsmomlikestotouchmultiple.tips?

Mark Buffalo

@SEJPM nope

AviD

@Arperum that is rather cute.

@Simon this, not so much. But good effort, though.

Simon

ty daddy

AviD

(not really, but its adorable that you keep trying.)

SEJPM

12:44

@MarkBuffalo buffalo.wtf?

AviD

@SEJPM "Erdogan"? Wasn't that the name of the dragon in that movie?

SEJPM

@AviD which movie?

Rory Alsop

@SEJPM Eragon

lol

Simon

It sucks so much that there is no pls TLD.

SEJPM

@Simon simon.wtf ?

AviD

12:45

@SEJPM the one with the dragon named Erdagon

@RoryAlsop ah yeah that

Simon

@SEJPM wadafuk

AviD

@SEJPM simpwn

I like that

SEJPM

@Simon it's still available

AviD

it's like you start saying "simple" but then you turn around and pwn simon

SEJPM

@AviD available for .wtf, .eu, .net, .org, .info

Simon

12:47

@SEJPM What about simon.webcam? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

AviD

simon.yomomma?

Arperum

@Simon Noone wants that anyway.

AviD

or simons.mom

SEJPM

@Simon available

Simon

@Arperum Fine, what about simon.wang then?

AviD

12:47

@Simon simon.pony

SEJPM

@AviD TLD not assigned

maybe we could buy it ...

Arperum

57 secs ago, by Arperum

@Simon Noone wants that anyway.

Simon

Oh I got a great one for me: pls.rehab

AviD

@Simon hey @RoryAlsop, do you remember Wang Corp? from like the 80s I think.

Thomas Pornin

@Matthew Amusing trivia: the US Navy seriously considered using the Village People song as their official musical theme for recruitment purposes -- this is how they got to film the original music video on an actual military ship.

SEJPM

12:48

@Simon available

Simon

@ThomasPornin What's up with your Village People obsession?

AviD

oh snap.

Simon

@SEJPM Damn son, that'll cost a lot.

SEJPM

@Simon 36€ / yr (for pls.rehab)

Simon

All these domains could redirect to my career on my website.

Did you guys hear about my career page?

@SEJPM Jeeeezus.

silverpenguin

12:50

@Simon e_e

AviD

@SEJPM thats a lot of money in PHP dollars!

Simon

@silverpenguin :D

Did I tell you guys that my donut and I bought a house?

AviD

@Simon congrats!

Simon

@AviD Thanks!

Rоry McCune

@Simon what a waste! think of all the vanity domain names you could've bought instead

@Simon p.s. when's the house warming party?

Simon

12:51

@RоryMcCune o lawd pls I had to get out of that basement.

silverpenguin

getting frustrated that all the toilets are occupied at work and exclaiming : "I just want to piss why is it so hard?" .... room burst out laughing e_e penis jokes ensued

Simon

@RоryMcCune As soon as we get enough furniture for da people.

AviD

damn tigger, proud of me. I know it wasnt easy to not say something mean and snarky. Sooo many good choices. But you went with nice and supportive. Real progress.

Simon

simon.dating is a good one too.

AviD

@RоryMcCune it's canada. Donuts cost more.

Rоry McCune

12:52

@Simon be careful to avoid new home owner rookie error (depending on how wild your parties are), decorate after the party and not before

Rory Alsop

@Arperum someone paid money for that...

Simon

@RоryMcCune Hehehe.

AviD

@RоryMcCune It's canada. They dont warm their houses.

Lucas Kauffman

hello

silverpenguin

@Simon I will come to the house party.... i assume I am invited because you have no one else

Simon

12:52

@LucasKauffman allo

Arperum

@Simon Congrats!

Rory Alsop

@AviD heh - yup

Simon

@silverpenguin wat

@Arperum Thanks!

Lucas Kauffman

gratz @Simon glad to see you are growing up

SEJPM

@Simon yours for ~45€ / yr

Simon

12:53

@LucasKauffman Thanks and yeah, I still don't realize it.

Rory Alsop

@Simon I read that as horse, and thought, "Wut? endless.horse is @Simon's?"

silverpenguin

@Simon sorry I translated the room into manatee and it said: "Manatee, you are invited to my house party of which I am having once i get furniture" :P

Lucas Kauffman

did my eyes see this correctly @RoryAlsop writing python?

Simon

@SEJPM Man, they're really trying to make bank with those.

@RoryAlsop Hahaha.

Rory Alsop

@LucasKauffman ello

Lucas Kauffman

12:54

@Simon you will when you see you bank account for the coming 25 years

SEJPM

@Simon these TLDs are new and fancy and of course will cost money

Rory Alsop

@LucasKauffman nope

Simon

@LucasKauffman Yeah but at least I'm paying more for something that I actually own.

Lucas Kauffman

true

Simon

I'm sure the first years are gonna suck though.

But they'll suck in a nice house so they'll suck less.

AviD

12:55

@SEJPM @Simon has to pay a lot more for that on every date.

Rory Alsop

@Simon is adulting. This is a mistake. Adulting is difficult. And expensive

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SEJPM

simon.sucks

still available

SmokeDispenser

not anymore;)

Simon

@RoryAlsop Yeah but I got someone adulting with me so it makes it much easier.

@SEJPM How much is that one?

AviD

@Simon doesnt always have to be the case though.

SmokeDispenser

12:56

at least not for long.. I'm not gonna nick it.

Arperum

@LucasKauffman I'm paying less on mortgage payments than I was paying rent.

Simon

@AviD You mean that my mortgage could have been the same price as my apartment?

Lucas Kauffman

I wish I could afford a place here

AviD

e.g. my mortgage is costing me less than rent is costing my tenants.

SEJPM

@Simon 250 USD / yr

Simon

12:57

@SEJPM WHAT

Lucas Kauffman

basic thing I'm allowed to buy costs over one million SGD easily :(

Simon

@LucasKauffman ô_ô

I hope your salary is high.

AviD

even for the same house.

Lucas Kauffman

@Simon not enough to buy a condo

Simon

@LucasKauffman Dayum.

AviD

12:57

@Arperum it makes sense, these are different markets.

Lucas Kauffman

and as a foreigner im only allowed to buy that

Simon

@AviD I don't think that would have been possible here unless I went up North a lot.

AviD

@LucasKauffman usually a consideration when one considers locations...

Lucas Kauffman

@AviD yes

AviD

i.e. the rent money covers more than half my mortgage.

@Simon to be clear, in this case I meant my cost above the rent.

SEJPM

12:59

WTF

.mom is a thing

launching 3rd may

AviD

@SEJPM my guess: Hallmark?

SEJPM

@Simon sry, mistake: 3k USD / yr

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