The DMZ

Rory Alsop

18:04

@kalina always worth checking in case it has been changed by someone else - either an attacker, or as a precaution

kalina

@RoryAlsop I did, I phoned them up

and was just about to start shouting when it let me log in

Simon

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Mark Buffalo

Wrong button

kalina

oh look, @MarkBuffalo faking taking part again

l1thal

Should I get the Nexus 5x or 6P?

SEJPM

18:09

@kalina ... and the room is quiet immediatly

@l1thal 6P if you have money, 5X if not

kalina

@l1thal either, do you have big hands?

@SEJPM that's what happens when you fake taking part

SEJPM

@kalina :(

StackExchange

Stack Overflow: The Hardware - 2016 Edition

Nick Craver on March 29, 2016

The second in a long series of posts on Stack Overflow’s architecture.

Simon

WE DON'T CARE oh wait actually this is the first time that I care a bit.

l1thal

@kalina I would say they're about moderate. Performance-wise, which is better?

SEJPM

18:12

@l1thal 6P

kalina

@l1thal bigger number, more fun

general rule ^

l1thal

@SEJPM Do you know if they're planning on coming out with a new one anytime soon?

I hate this keyboard.

SEJPM

trustedreviews.com/opinions/nexus-5x-vs-nexus-6p

bgr.com/2015/10/02/nexus-5x-nexus-6p-differences

kalina

@l1thal Q3/4

Mark Buffalo

Haha, I'm just busy and really don't have anything to say

l1thal

18:13

What?

kalina

I've never seen you have anything to say

37 secs ago, by kalina

@l1thal Q3/4

SEJPM

@l1thal not for about one or two years I think. Original Nexus 5 was around end of 2013 (?)

Mark Buffalo

Okay

l1thal

Alright. thanks

David Freitag

@l1thal Definitely do NOT get a 5X.

kalina

18:14

@SEJPM new phones are yearly around the major release of the next android

David Freitag

I have one and I wouldn't give one to my worst enemy

l1thal

@DavidFreitag lol. but the 6P is fine?

SEJPM

@kalina so why was there no new Nexus 5 iteration for Android 5?

@DavidFreitag why?

David Freitag

@l1thal 6P is a fantastic device. You just need to watch the bit of glass on the back.

kalina

@SEJPM because last year they went larger screen size and the 5 indicates the screen size

David Freitag

18:14

@SEJPM It's a flaming piece of shit.

OPO was the same price and was 1000x better

kalina

also isn't android 5 android marshmellow

l1thal

@DavidFreitag awesome, thanks

Simon

You're a marshmellow.

kalina

:(

SEJPM

@kalina lolipop

kalina

18:16

@SEJPM yes that was the year they skipped the new 5 in favor of launching the first 6

silverpenguin

someone said marshmallows e_e?

David Freitag

Android version history

The version history of the Android mobile operating system began with the release of the Android alpha in November 2007. The first commercial version, Android 1.0, was released in September 2008. Android is continually developed by Google and the Open Handset Alliance (OHA), and has seen a number of updates to its base operating system since the initial release. The most recent major Android update is Android 6.0 "Marshmallow", which was released in October 2015. Since April 2009, Android versions have been developed under a confectionery-themed code name and released in alphabetical order, beginning...

kalina

I love how slow the uptake of new versions of android is getting

silverpenguin

has anyone ever tried to read writing on their T-Shirts backwards in a mirror incase people in sweatshops are sending messages for help ?

l1thal

Should I go for a Nexus 6P or a One phone?

Rory Alsop

18:18

@kalina weird - I didn't know anyone else used the "mellow" version of this other than my youngest daughter

kalina

@silverpenguin you know every time you say something like this everybody else has to read it, right?

1 min ago, by kalina

I love how slow the uptake of new versions of android is getting

silverpenguin

@kalina ye I know... just random thoughts that make me feel happy when i type them :)

Mark Buffalo

@silverpenguin wat

Rory Alsop

@kalina pretty but doesn't answer me very well :-)

kalina

@RoryAlsop yes it does, marshmellow is the tiny pink bit in the bottom right corner that indicates nobody uses it

Rory Alsop

18:19

Also, was that a slight OpSec fail earlier with your freebie discussion? Or clever obfuscation?

David Freitag

@kalina Pretty sure he just meant your spelling of marshmallow.

kalina

@silverpenguin maybe as a compromise you could send all messages to /dev/null so you get to type them but we don't see them

Rory Alsop

@kalina that's marshmallow

@DavidFreitag yep

kalina

@RoryAlsop I mentioned no brands

Rory Alsop

@kalina yeah - but not many DJ's were on social media talking about their trainers...

kalina

18:20

I had to take a hacksaw to my enthusiasm because I was literally bursting and nearly just told you everything

Simon

@kalina TINY PINK MASTER RACE

Rory Alsop

@kalina lol

David Freitag

@Simon ( ͡◉ ͜ ʖ ͡◉)

Rory Alsop

@kalina The only company to give me free stuff regularly is SE

Simon

@DavidFreitag ô_ô

Rory Alsop

18:21

I'd like it to be Marshall or Ibanez or Blackstar

kalina

@RoryAlsop it's not the first free stuff I've received, it was just a bit left field

David Freitag

@kalina You got free stuffs?

silverpenguin

@kalina or i could just post all of my questions on SO im sure i would get a warmer reception

Simon

@DavidFreitag Yeah she got a box of donuts and still haven't figured out who sent them.

Rory Alsop

@kalina gotta be a bit of a sign of making it in the public eye to some level - when companies know you are free marketing for them

kalina

18:21

it also feels a bit backwards, I can afford to buy this stuff now, why give it for free

David Freitag

@silverpenguin I doubt it.

kalina

I'm pretty sure not many people see me running at 6am

anyway, it was weird, which was my point

David Freitag

That's what you think.

silverpenguin

@DavidFreitag man e_e come on dont intercept the come backs man, I know it was weak but dont hurt the e-peen

Rory Alsop

@kalina famous story about Dave Grohl (appears to be true) of him getting annoyed with some music shop who wanted to give him a freebie or discount and he got them to give the discount to the next person in line as he definitely didn't need it

kalina

18:23

and yes, it would be more awesome if pioneer randomly sent me a pair of cdj2000nxs2s

maybe I should post that on social media

Rory Alsop

@kalina lol

Simon

@kalina pls I need those more than you do

Nate Kerkhofs

The android fragmentation is why I'm getting a new iPhone this year

Simon

@NateKerkhofs You suck.

Rory Alsop

@kalina those are a bit posh - just googled

Nate Kerkhofs

18:23

iOS at least keeps their OS up to date

kalina

@Simon almost certainly since I already have two cdj2000nxs and two cdj900nxs

David Freitag

@NateKerkhofs Get a real phone and keep it up to date yourself.

Rory Alsop

@NateKerkhofs or you can get an android variant that stays up to date

Simon

@kalina Which confirms my point.

Rory Alsop

there are plenty

Simon

18:24

@NateKerkhofs You haven't figured out that you need to buy a Google device yet?

kalina

@Simon what, it would be nicer to replace the baby model with two of the new ones :p

SEJPM

@NateKerkhofs so does Windows

Simon

@kalina o pls

David Freitag

I'm in such a shitty mood today

Rory Alsop

@kalina presumably you need to travel with all of them in case of hardware failure?

Nate Kerkhofs

18:25

I currently got a Galaxy S4. Those things have been out for 3 years. I got my last update 1.5 years ago

Simon

@DavidFreitag Make sure to make other people feel bad too.

kalina

@RoryAlsop most clubs have their own setup

Nate Kerkhofs

@SEJPM in case you didn't realize, I love windows for that reason

David Freitag

@NateKerkhofs You buy a Samsung device and you complain?

@Simon I'm trying so hard not to

Simon

@DavidFreitag Isn't that what you're supposed to do anyway? That's what my ex would do daily.

SEJPM

18:25

@NateKerkhofs I meant Windows Mobile (aka Windows Phone)

Nate Kerkhofs

@DavidFreitag That was before I became security conscious

Rory Alsop

@kalina ahh - cool. Didn't know how much the artist needed to bring. I have been on bills with DJ's who had to ship in their entire gear - but wasn;t sure if that was because the other artists that night were all bands

Nate Kerkhofs

I AM NOT GETTING A WINDOWS MOBILE PHONE!

David Freitag

@NateKerkhofs Buy a Oneplus device, slap a custom kernel + rom on it and never look back.

Rory Alsop

@NateKerkhofs Cyanogen works really well - I have that now on the S4, S5s and S6 in the house

Nate Kerkhofs

18:26

I'm either getting a Nexus or an iPhone

kalina

@RoryAlsop but no, if I really have to, I have a pair of surface pro 4s and traktor as backup

Simon

@RoryAlsop Could also be due to live performance.

kalina

@RoryAlsop in those instances I'd expect I'd bring my own setup

SEJPM

@NateKerkhofs I hear quite some prejudice here

Nate Kerkhofs

@RoryAlsop Thing is, if installing the ROM fails for whatever reason, I got a useless phone. I currently just got an insecure phone

Rory Alsop

18:27

@Simon oh yeah - those DJ's were very much live!

@NateKerkhofs is very easy to do it - a fail means quickly run it again

nowhere near as twitchy as it was 3 or 4 years ago

Simon

@NateKerkhofs You really, really, really have to commit to brick the phone.

David Freitag

MAybe some Tristam will cheer me up

Rory Alsop

it's a standard process now for the main phones

@Simon yep - exactly

David Freitag

@NateKerkhofs Every phone worth having has a one-click now.

kalina

@Simon my Windows phone killed itself, I didn't do anything other than tap "update" and it rebooted and bricked itself

Nate Kerkhofs

18:28

@SEJPM rightfully so. Windows Mobile is currently just not worth considering. Half the apps worth having are missing, there is no real quality control on the remaining apps and the OS itself is slow

Simon

@kalina Yeah well, that's how it rolls in the wonderful world of Windoze.

Nate Kerkhofs

I'm either getting an iOS phone or a Nexus phone

David Freitag

@NateKerkhofs @Iszi rekt

Ohnana

Nate Kerkhofs

and if I get an iOS phone, I get the top model, probably the 7

Ohnana

18:29

this should be our 404 page

David Freitag

@NateKerkhofs You should get a 5X best phone ever

kalina

dear @AppleSupport I am an avid fan of logic and my kit just died half way through making a track please send me a new everything #iloveyou #freestuff

Rory Alsop

Kvelertak - Bruane Brenn [OFFICIAL VIDEO]

►

Ohnana

or our 500 page

silverpenguin

store.bq.com/gl/ubuntu-edition-e5

Nate Kerkhofs

18:30

@DavidFreitag You mean the phone you just called a "flaming piece of shit" less than half an hour ago?

David Freitag

@NateKerkhofs Yup

SEJPM

@silverpenguin ubuntu...

Nate Kerkhofs

Anyway, Red Devils are starting their practise match against Portugal soon

silverpenguin

@SEJPM :D what

kalina

@NateKerkhofs red devils?

Simon

18:30

@kalina You don't want to be an @AviD.

Nate Kerkhofs

@kalina Belgian national soccer team

kalina

@Simon ew

Nate Kerkhofs

They were originally planned to play in Brussels, but the match got moved to Portugal for obvious reasons

kalina

he is definitely going back on ignore again

@NateKerkhofs I stopped reading at soccer but thanks for answering

David Freitag

@kalina Especially with what he did to @RоryMcCune

Nate Kerkhofs

18:32

@kalina We're currently ranked number one worldwide

David Freitag

Jerk

SEJPM

@NateKerkhofs brussel attacks?

Nate Kerkhofs

which incidentally is also proof of how fucked up the ranking is

@SEJPM yep. The police couldn't muster enough men to guarantee security

kalina

@NateKerkhofs in what world is belgium a world class soccer team?

Nate Kerkhofs

So we moved to Portugal

kalina

18:32

this must be opposites land

Nate Kerkhofs

@kalina FIFA rankings

kalina

is it april the 1st?

ho ho that's a funny april fools joke

oh it's not april yet

Nate Kerkhofs

int.soccerway.com/teams/rankings/fifa/?ICID=TN_03_05_01

kalina

wishing my life away

Rory Alsop

@NateKerkhofs one of my team is off to Belgium next week for a cycling competition... some concern...

Nate Kerkhofs

18:33

@RoryAlsop Don't be worried. They'll have a good time

oops, phrasing

Rory Alsop

@NateKerkhofs oooh dear

kalina

maybe we could just carpet bomb all known locations of isis but instead of using bombs use nukes

Simon

@NateKerkhofs TOO SOON.

MY ANCESTORS ARE BELGIAN

I lied.

I'm full on Markus today except that I tell people that I'm lying.

Nate Kerkhofs

@Simon I feel sorry for you rloss

Ohnana

@NateKerkhofs oh lawd

Nate Kerkhofs

18:35

@Ohnana I already edited it

Ohnana

@NateKerkhofs i know, but i laughed and now i'm going to hell

Simon

@NateKerkhofs It was fine; maybe a tiny bit harsher than we're used too.

Xander

@QPaysTaxes I'd lean towards comment. It suggests that the question is wrong, rather than addressing it directly.

Simon

@Ohnana Yeah it was good lulz.

Nate Kerkhofs

I'm from Belgium myself. My style of comedy is a bit more crude than most people are used to

Anyway, off to the TV

Simon

18:37

babai

David Freitag

47

Q: Does my chicken like being touched?

I recently unlocked the chicken coop and then I bought a chicken. I noticed that I can pet the chicken once per day and a little heart displays above its head. I've done this every day for almost an entire season and I'm not seeing any benefits from it. Does petting it serve any sort of food pro...

stardew-valley

Xander

@QPaysTaxes You have a fair point. It would certainly be a reasonable question to ask on our meta. That way the mods can take a look.

kalina

@QPaysTaxes never trust those with blue names

they're normally evil and manipulative

Xander

@QPaysTaxes No, sorry. :-) i'm just a hanger-on here.

kalina

@QPaysTaxes wow, I'm not a horse

42 secs ago, by QPaysTaxes

@kalina So is the blue horse though

inferring me because I'm the only person in here with a blue animal as an avatar

Xander

18:44

@QPaysTaxes Yes, on beer.SE.

kalina

@QPaysTaxes they'll give anybody a diamond

don't treat them special

Xander

@QPaysTaxes Yay!

kalina

@QPaysTaxes dashie is a pegasus pony

Xander

@QPaysTaxes Yeah, no, not joking.

Ohnana

@QPaysTaxes yeah it's a beta site

l1thal

18:45

I think I'm going to get a One Plus One phone

SEJPM

0

Q: What are active research topics in SSL/TLS?

I don't know whether it is right to ask a question here for my MTech dissertation. I thought there is no good place in the world where I can find security experts like here. I am interested in doing research in the protocol SSL/TLS. I know a fair bit of knowledge about protocol and underlying pr...

tls cryptography protocols research

l1thal

Because the performance is similar and nethunter can be put on it

@QPaysTaxes oneplus.net/oneplus-one

kalina

@l1thal oneplusone is the old model

Xander

@SEJPM Yeah, saw that. Sigh.

kalina

so, I must be having a stroke, since we actually agree on something

David Freitag

18:50

@l1thal Just make sure you custom rom + kernel that bad boy

Ohnana

@QPaysTaxes right, i've heard of that

kalina

@QPaysTaxes pls, everybody is manipulative in some capacity

David Freitag

@kalina I'm manipulative?

kalina

@DavidFreitag everybody.

David Freitag

@kalina I'm not manipulative, if I want something I either forget about it or ask

kalina

18:52

@QPaysTaxes I've actually been too busy to see any MLP past half way through season 2

lol pokemon

David Freitag

nurds

kalina

you've not convinced me that you're not a nerd

I don't fit in here, I'm not nerdy enough

I will return once the conversation is not about pokemon and silly TV shows

and magic the gathering (@Simon)

enjoy

paying your taxes

or whatever you do

from "school"?

/sigh

is that school in which you are taught how to get high?

David Freitag

essentially

kalina

french is banned in here

english only

M'vy

teu teu teu

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