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MickLH

22:00

The only real annoyance I've had in practice with that is having to copy data byte-by-byte when I could have just cast a pointer

AviD

@MickLH my desires are unconventional

Ohnana

@AviD NO.

we do not speak of that

AviD

@Ohnana he started

"ah, his methods - supernatural."

better?

TildalWave

@MickLH as long as it' not a null pointer :P

and the circle is complete :)

AviD

your circle is complete.

TildalWave

22:06

3 hours ago, by CodesInChaos

Including the famous billion-dollar-mistake.

diagprov

@MickLH not with all algorithms and all sets of functions, you can't. All primitive recursive functions are total, but that doesn't describe the set of all computational algorithms modelled by (say) a Turing machine.

Following that train of thought far enough leads to the Halting problem.

MickLH

@diagprov I have no need for the set of all algorithms

AviD

not to mention everything happening outside of your code - okay you're not using a higher level language / compiler / framework / libraries, but you still have the OS to deal with.

@diagprov and only AV companies can solve that.

Gilles

@AviD by ensuring that your programs will never halt because the AV hogs all the resources?

AviD

@Gilles I suppose that's one way.

MickLH

22:09

@AviD If the application doesn't need an OS, I avoid using one. I haven't had to use an RTOS yet but if that's what it takes then I would.

Simon

What are you donuts on about?

TildalWave

@Simon cocky devs

AviD

@Simon Donuts. Glazed donuts.

with filling.

Simon

@TildalWave Someone's being a cocky dev here or cocky devs in general?

Mark Buffalo

@MickLH My favorite thing to do is this: create code without writing comments at all. Make sure everything is named appropriately. After that, go back and write comments and justify what you're doing... more often than not, you might find a mistake in your approach, or a bug... and you can fix it easier. It also helps justify what you're trying to do. Sometimes, you may even find that your design approach is incorrect... if you're programming without designing first, that is. I'm weird.

MickLH

22:11

@MarkBuffalo started it!

TildalWave

@Simon read up

Simon

@TildalWave Meh.

Mark Buffalo

I like my stuff being maintainable by others

in case I get hit by a bus

diagprov

@AviD and some random guy on the stackexchange podcast talking about LLVM IR ages ago.

TildalWave

BTW if any of you aren't following (cc @Simon):

Correctness (computer science)

In theoretical computer science, correctness of an algorithm is asserted when it is said that the algorithm is correct with respect to a specification. Functional correctness refers to the input-output behaviour of the algorithm (i.e., for each input it produces the expected output). A distinction is made between total correctness, which additionally requires that the algorithm terminates, and partial correctness, which simply requires that if an answer is returned it will be correct. Since there is no general solution to the halting problem, a total correctness assertion may lie much deeper. A...

not the best page but it has links to better ones and it gives a broad overview

Simon

22:30

I literally can't read anything longer than 10 words right now.

What did I just type? Too long to be read.

AviD

@Simon s/right now//

Simon

s/avid/assholejerkanus

AviD

lol

diagprov

@Simon You've just discovered self-referential sentences, am I allowed to talk about Godel?

Simon

@diagprov I already know everything about Godel, he's an American dude that I used to play RuneScape with.

He was into anime.

diagprov

22:34

@Simon Oh good ok you know him already. Coolio.

Simon

Yeah son.

silverpenguin

@Simon hello....ey

Simon

allo

TildalWave

@diagprov well aren't you a maths geek :) you're missing an umlaut tho... or, even better a $\ddot$

diagprov

@TildalWave I know :( my keyboard is configured to Swiss French and I can't work out how to make it do an umlaut with the e :)

TildalWave

22:48

anyway, I'm not sure that provable logic works on infinite-state donuts

diagprov

I will do a Simon... Godül

Gilles

@diagprov Compose " e

TildalWave

on my layout I do Alt Gr + - + e

or s/e/[a|o|u]

diagprov

ö thanks @Gilles !

Had to turn on my compose key though

TildalWave

BTW you need ö anyway :)

diagprov

22:52

Gilles

and for Erdős it's Compose = o in the default X11 compose map

silverpenguin

Meateor™ 1 Meateor™
Large 13.5"
BBQ Stuffed Crust
Chick 'n' Mix Box 1 Chick 'n' Mix Box
7 Chicken Kickers™ 1 7 Chicken Kickers™
Twisted Dough Balls™ - Pepperoni 1 Twisted Dough Balls™ - Pepperoni
Create Your Own 1 Create Your Own

bow before me mortals

TildalWave

meh I had beer brats for dinner, not jelly at all

-1

Q: ANOMALY NETWORK TRAFFIC DETECTION

I NEED A HELP I WANT TO Design intrusion detection system FOR PROTECT NETWORK I USED SNORT WITH IDS AND FIREWALL TO DETECTS ATTACKS BUT I NEED INTELLIGENT ALGORITHMS TO USED IN SNORT PLEAS ANYONE CAN HELP ME ?? :(

unclear what you're shouting?

silverpenguin

why is he shouting this question

Mark Buffalo

TildalWave

23:06

so it reverberates even in a vacuum

Mark Buffalo

VTC'd as unclear for shouting

silverpenguin

edited

diagprov

@TildalWave I'd love to understand how these people go about asking questions and why the random case change in there

silverpenguin

was it to much of an edit?

diagprov

I mean, if you're going to use all upper case, why not just do it for everything?

silverpenguin

23:09

it looks like he typed it and held shift to type the things he wanted in capitols

while caplocks was on

Mark Buffalo

It's basically too broad

silverpenguin

I tried to help :( but obviously i cannot just assume what he wants to know so kept it with the same meaning but wrote it a tiny bit better

TildalWave

yeah, too broad, unclear ... similar beasts, both close reasons should do

Mark Buffalo

half of these questions are trolling me for information. that's what my tinfoil says

(I'm not serious)

TildalWave

one says "add detail", another "narrow it down", both boil to "please expand"

Mark Buffalo

23:13

@TildalWave What it boils down to, is usually what I ask my enemies to do... until they burst.

TildalWave

oh @MarkBuffalo you're so steampunk :)

diagprov

@RоryMcCune I was also a bit confused by this... MS-SQL Server you say?, On Linux you say?

Mark Buffalo

@diagprov it's awesome, though

It'll probably be a lot faster too... I say this because I'm a Linux fanboy and hate microsoft by default, and am incapable of non-group-think.

diagprov

@MarkBuffalo but then... theregister.co.uk/2016/03/09/microsoft_sonic_debian

and the VS/Eclipse thing.

Mark Buffalo

lol

Wait, what? VS/Eclipse? Where???

I remember hearing about this, but wasn't sure if it was completed

diagprov

23:28

@MarkBuffalo blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/visualstudio/2016/03/08/…

silverpenguin

man where is my pizza

this manatee hungry fool

diagprov

@MarkBuffalo they should have announced the SQL server thing on April 1st.

silverpenguin

@diagprov genius.... no one would know what to think

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