The DMZ

Rory Alsop

13:00

@Simon - it's Nomeansno. You should know this:

NoMeansNo - Why Do They Call Me Mr. Happy? [1993, FULL ALBUM]

►

They are Canadish, after all

Simon

@RoryAlsop Ah crap, the first chord remembered me of another track that I like.

WHAT IS IT

Rory Alsop

@kalina I approve or endorse this message

Simon

I think it's a blink-182 track.

Rory Alsop

Dunno - can't do sound/video here. Will have to wait until I get in the car and I can play it loud

Rоry McCune

warning don't listen to NoMeansNo if you're trying to have a happy/shiney day :)

their songs can be a little dark

Simon

13:01

Canadians make the weirdest music.

@RоryMcCune They must be writing during winter.

kalina

yeah validating flags

yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeah

flag says "hello" -> yes that's valid

flag says "hi all you nice people" -> yes that's valid

Rоry McCune

@Simon could well be.. that said the 2nd track on that album "The River" is epic

kalina

flag is from the bridge -> yes that's valid

Rоry McCune

@Simon with song names like "Kill Everyone Now" you can probably guess it's not a Taylor Swift pop song

Simon

@RоryMcCune What if Miss Swift takes a dark turn à la Cyrus?

Rоry McCune

13:04

@Simon it would have to be very dark

Matthew

@Simon Even then, I believe the normal method is for the darkness to take the form of moving from insinuated sexual context to actually humping on stage

Simon

@Matthew lulz

silverpenguin

there is a new answer, I am having trouble reviewing it. it gives a really poor answer, but an answer none the less... I cannot edit it to change it because I might as well just answer the question my self. it is poor structure and only answers the question in 4 words and is consited of 6-7 lines ...

Simon

pls all I didn't want to go on a musical emotion trip this morning ffs

SEJPM

@silverpenguin link?

silverpenguin

13:09

security.stackexchange.com/review/low-quality-posts/71277

HamZa

morning

Matthew

@silverpenguin It's not an answer. Burn it!

silverpenguin

@HamZa good morning

Ohnana

@MarkBuffalo LMAO

silverpenguin

fire

Mark Buffalo

13:10

:D

@kalina Hai

Matthew

0

Q: Certificate/Public pinning- Is there any possibility to avoid bypassing it?

I have seen in many blogs and websites that certificate/public key can be bypassed in both android and IOS. Is there a possibility to implement Certificate/Public key pinning which can't be bypassed? Please let me know.

silverpenguin

@Matthew i feel powerful :< must stomp more noobs

Mark Buffalo

@silverpenguin Powerful you have become, Dookie. The Dork Side I sense in you.

silverpenguin

@Matthew that is a terrible unresearched question IMO

Matthew

When someone has a user name like "Pen Tester2" and asks a question like that, I question the value they are providing to their clients

silverpenguin

13:12

may i stomp him?

HamZa

How to repfarm on sec.se?

Barry Carlyon

STOMP EVERYTHING

silverpenguin

STOMPING

kalina

@MarkBuffalo you are?

Mark Buffalo

@BarryCarlyon HE SPEAKS

SEJPM

13:13

@HamZa ask a popular question

Barry Carlyon

:-P

Mark Buffalo

@BarryCarlyon just spoke twice this month. We can rest easy now knowing he's still alive

kalina

@HamZa respond with the tinfoil hat response that paranoid askers are after

Mark Buffalo

He'll be back next month to say 2 more things

kalina

basically, do what @MarkBuffalo and just put an average response on all the questions and see what happens

Mark Buffalo

13:13

@kalina I try to do that to elicit upvotes

LOL

At least I try to dial back the paranoia

HamZa

much wow

Mark Buffalo

@kalina Yes, I am damaged.

Matthew

@kalina "Yes, all iPhones have a secret link to the NSA, and are using undetectable neutrino signalling to report back all your actions"

kalina

I've demonstrated that I'm capable of posting an answer with more than 100 upvotes so I don't need to take part on this site

Mark Buffalo

@Matthew Wait, is this true?

equips tinfoil hat

Whew, I'm safe.

SEJPM

13:14

@Matthew s/NSA/@MarkBuffalo

Mark Buffalo

@SEJPM DAMMIT I'M NOT NSA

Matthew

@MarkBuffalo Neutrinos pass straight through the tinfoil! Mwhahaha!!!!

SEJPM

@MarkBuffalo I've a room description that says otherwise

Ohnana

@HamZa make jokes about the NSA

kalina

@MarkBuffalo aluminium tin foil? perfect, we're part of the way to thermite

Mark Buffalo

13:15

@Matthew Oh right... and through the earth. So how are they reading the information stored in? lulz, wrekt, #scienced potatoes.

Matthew

@MarkBuffalo They have a really big vat of washing up liquid under their building

SEJPM

@Ohnana make a fun bear-style comment at the end

silverpenguin

@MarkBuffalo thats exactly what the NSA would say

HamZa

818

A: Is it possible to disable the network in iOS Simulator?

Use a simple Faraday cage to block or limit the external RF signal level. You can make your own with aluminum foil. The openings should be smaller than the wavelength of your data service if that's what you want to block. 800 Mhz has a 37 cm (14") wavelength, 1900 Mhz has a 16 cm (6") wavele...

Ohnana

I LOVE THE SMELL OF CLOSE VOTES IN THE MORNING

also most of these are being leave open... who's flagging shit

kalina

13:17

I LOVE THE SMELL OF what?

well I don't take part in this site or any other

Mark Buffalo

@HamZa LMAO

kalina

so blame me I guess

so I can tell you to do one

you know when you're talking to people who don't know computers and they go "why didn't you receive my email" and you go "WELL... let me tell you a story about how the internet works"

Ohnana

idk man email is pretty reliable now

"i didn't get your email" == "I didn't use the search function and it's buried under piles of viagra ads"

5

kalina

the reliability of email hasn't changed, the reliability of the network has

Mark Buffalo

@Ohnana I referenced those ads in my last answer

HamZa

13:19

@kalina this chat room has become so lively since you started using it

kalina

@HamZa thanks, I know

most people think it's a bad thing though because they don't like me and want me to stfu

Ohnana

@MarkBuffalo REP WHORE

@kalina bullshit

silverpenguin

@kalina let me tell you a story all about how my ISP got flipped turned up side down. Id like to take a minute just sit right there while I sit on hold simply because they dont care

Mark Buffalo

@Ohnana I don't think anyone noticed it

Simon

@kalina The river down there, have you cried all of it?

fkin_rekt

kalina

13:21

@Simon yes I am responsible for all of the water on the planet

global warming is entirely my tears

Simon

wat

Mark Buffalo

@kalina I enjoy having you here.

Simon

Shut top Markus.

Mark Buffalo

@Simon I don't enjoy having you here

Simon

Re-shut top Markus.

Mark Buffalo

13:21

(that's a joke, of course I do)

Re-re-shut top, Markus?

kalina

if @Simon was more like @MarkBuffalo...

Simon

Look at you trying to change people, is that why your past relationships have failed?

HamZa

I can't keep up with this, dudes/dudettes...

SEJPM

@HamZa why did you even bother going into the the DMZ then?

Matthew

30

Q: How to behave with women in my company when it's International Women's Day?

Today I woke up and remembered that today is International Women's Day. I am not exactly the person who likes to greet and give wishes to everyone, and I am often kinda embarrassed when I have to do so "by force" (like in family reunions etc.) So today I was really undecided on what to do, wheth...

professionalism communication colleagues company-culture italy

HamZa

13:23

@SEJPM it was different back in the day but then again. You can't expect anything to not change

Simon

@Matthew I saw it yesterday, it made me facepalm and be ashamed of fellow nurdz.

Mark Buffalo

@Matthew wtf?

It's a day like any other... just treat everyone with respect... problem solved?

HamZa

Most people ignore that kind of thing. Especially on "international no pants day". — gnasher729 yesterday

hehehehe

Matthew

@MarkBuffalo I was kind of shocked that it even needed to be asked...

Mark Buffalo

Most people ignore that kind of thing. Especially on "international no pants day". — gnasher729 yesterday

ROFL

Simon

13:25

MARKUS HAMZA LITERALLY POSTED IT 5 SECONDS AGO

FFS

silverpenguin

@MarkBuffalo this is what i thought, treat everyone as you would any other day, treating someone differently based upon a day is in turn the complete opposite point of said day

Arperum

@Matthew Uhm... Treat them the same you treat them other days? Assuming you treat them like actual human beings of equal value on everyday basis?

Mark Buffalo

Gusdor, If you meet instant hostility at what you say, perhaps you should consider being less offensive. If you want to know why these things are important to women, perhaps you should understand, we make less money for the same work, we have to work harder just to get hired, we are subject to dangers you know nothing about including rape (and yes a man tried to rape me in the workplace in front of other men so it is not some made up danger.) Our ideas are ignored until a man brings them up and many many, many other examples of why women are sensitive to what you say. — HLGEM 19 hours ago

Matthew

@Arperum I think that's one of the other answers, yes...

Mark Buffalo

wtf???? in the workplace???

also, good point by this lady

HamZa

13:26

@MarkBuffalo as if men aren't raped at all

Simon

In which fucking country does she live?

silverpenguin

@MarkBuffalo maybe i just have not seen it my self but in this industry i have not seen a woman earn less than a man for the same work

Simon

^

Ohnana

guys it's Italy, they like international women's day and hand out flower

Simon

Do they?

Is that why you told me he was Italian yesterday?

lulz

Ohnana

13:28

yea

culture is a thing

Mark Buffalo

@silverpenguin Depends on where you are, I believe

@HamZa True, but... women are more so... infinitely more so

Matthew

Presumably there is no obligation to buy flowers for every woman you meet on international women's day?

Ohnana

@Matthew they hand out like carnations and shit

kalina

@silverpenguin why, are you blind or do you walk around with your eyes closed?

Ohnana

cheap flowers

HamZa

13:29

PSA: I didn't even know it was that kind of a day.

Ohnana

@kalina i mean, i haven't seen it either. there are women at my company that make even more than my male peers because of their position and skills

kalina

what I find ironic is it's supposed to be a day designed to promote awareness and equality does the opposite: many countries in which it's actually a holiday only women get the holiday

Ohnana

oooh yeah that's a zinger

Simon

@kalina Wow.

That is indeed ironic.

Arperum

@kalina >_>

Simon

13:31

Which countries do this?

Matthew

@kalina I can understand it as a remembrance of women who've lost their lives fighting for equality and fairness, but not as a way to divide people based on chromosomes...

silverpenguin

@kalina @MarkBuffalo I am in england, people complain all the time about women pay but personally from my experience and knowledge the women i have worked with are on higher or equal pays... obviously im not saying its not true, im just curious :)

kalina

Journée internationale des femmes

La Journée internationale des droits des femmes ou Journée internationale de la femme est célébrée le 8 mars. Cette journée est issue de l'histoire des luttes féministes menées sur les continents européen et américain. Le 28 février 1909, une Journée nationale de la femme (National Woman's Day) est célébrée aux États-Unis à l'appel du Parti socialiste d'Amérique. À la suite d'une proposition de Clara Zetkin en août 1910, l'Internationale socialiste des femmes célèbre le 19 mars 1911 la première Journée internationale des femmes et revendique le droit de vote des femmes, le droit au travail et la...

Simon

Haha, of course you'd link it in French.

HamZa

@silverpenguin are you an intern?

@kalina very true

Simon

13:33

IN CHINA?

REALLY?

Mark Buffalo

sigh, I went to brush my teeth today

and accidentally picked up the razor blade

silverpenguin

@HamZa no im actually second most senior dev currently in this office...

Mark Buffalo

I'm hemmoraging

kalina

@Simon I don't understand your implication

Mark Buffalo

(joking, ok, not funny)

HamZa

13:34

@silverpenguin much expertise, wow!

Simon

So out of all countries that get the day off, only four of them is for women only.

kalina

>0 is many

silverpenguin

@HamZa :< nah sounds better than it is... im only on the level of a low end senior dev :< small company haha

Simon

@kalina Yes, I didn't say that to contradict what you said.

kalina

makes a first

Simon

13:35

pls

kalina

you're always trying to one-up me

Simon

Well, one-ups are good in Mario, no?

kalina

no

HamZa

0

Q: Sunshine CTF 2016 - 12 March 2016 at 16 pm UTC, lasts 28,5 hours

Let's participate at Sunshine CTF 2016. The CTF will begin on 12 March 2016 16:00 UTC and ends on 13 March 2016 20:30 UTC. As usual, we will play as team sec.se. The team communicates through the CTF team chatroom.

discussion ctf

2

kalina

it was a game mechanic for the people not good enough to complete the game in one go

silverpenguin

13:36

@Simon you enjoy magical mushrooms that make you feel big and powerful ?

Simon

@silverpenguin Those aren't one ups you donut.

kalina

@silverpenguin did you not play mario or something?

Ohnana

> The [Indian] ministry of women and child development announced the setting up of four more one-stop crisis centers on March 8, in addition to the eight already functioning across the country

oh that's nice

silverpenguin

@Simon opppsss i brain farted xD

@Simon wasnt 1-ups on the NES ... or 100 coins

kalina

@Ohnana maybe they could reduce the amount of stuff that occurs in public rather than setting up more centers to deal with the aftermath

silverpenguin

13:37

on the hand held

Ohnana

@kalina crisis centers are more geared towards domestic violence and abuse

kalina

eugh

Ohnana

they're important

kalina

I want to say the solution to domestic violence is to grab a screwdriver and impale in his chest

but I guess not everybody in the world is me

Ohnana

it's not a bandaid for all the abuse that happens, but if someone's hurt this will be the difference between more pain and freedom to them

silverpenguin

13:38

@kalina not all domestic abuse is aimed at women in this country its 40/60 apprently

kalina

@silverpenguin yes because any statistics on anything renowned for people not coming forward or telling others about it are reliable

Simon

@silverpenguin Seems kind of high but if this includes psychological violence then maybe it is right.

silverpenguin

@kalina i said apparently, men can be victims too, thats all i am saying :< #genderEqualityPenguinManatee

Jacco

Hi, maybe this is not the place to ask, but I asked a question at stackoverflow which has some overlap with security.se: stackoverflow.com/questions/35891269/…

Ohnana

@Simon husbands can be battered too. many of them won't fight back because they don't want to hurt their spouse

Matthew

13:40

@kalina Sadly, there are still countries where the male abuser would get a nice reward from the state to compensate for being stabbed, and the female victim would get stoned...

Jacco

And I didn't want to cross post it

Simon

@Ohnana Ya but I expect women to use psychological violence more than physical.

Ohnana

@Jacco neat, I think SO is a good fit for it

Simon

At least from what I've seen.

Rоry McCune

@Simon well it's not really a surprise considering where @kalina lives...

Simon

13:41

@RоryMcCune wat

kalina

@Matthew I know, hey let's not add more hate to my already overflowing hate-o-meter

Simon

wot r u sayin roro

Matthew

@Jacco Flag the permission with the user who created it

silverpenguin

@kalina no one hates you :P

Rоry McCune

@Simon pls, you can't be that slow... @kalina lives in la belle france when she's not being an international jet-setting DJ

kalina

13:42

@Simon that's because women are more intelligent in general and men are strong in general

Jacco

@Matthew would that scale?

Simon

@RоryMcCune Isn't she from Des Moines?

Rоry McCune

@Simon only on the Internet

Simon

o

Jacco

-thinks some more- that probably would scale.

Matthew

13:43

@Jacco Well, you've presumably got a table somewhere which goes "programmer is delegated to intern", which could gain a single column with the userid for the creator

HamZa

@kalina evidence to back that up?

Matthew

@Jacco You'd probably want a method for changing the "owner" of a permission too

kalina

@HamZa you need evidence that men are in general physically stronger than women?

HamZa

@kalina "women are more intelligent in general"

Jacco

@Matthew, indeed. there is a second table which kinda duplicates the one depicted and assigns delegated permissions to users.

kalina

13:44

@HamZa well that should be assumed as true since the rest of the sentence is true

Simon

@HamZa Evidence is not needed when the purpose of what you said was to make some people mad.

Jacco

puts 'change owner' in requirements doc

HamZa

If I look back at my school days, yes most of the top students were female. So I was wondering where such confidence came from

@Simon whatever you say, there will be at least someone against it

Simon

Your first mistake is to think that being successful at school implies intelligence.

kalina

I could link some articles from poor sources but I figured I'd just blurt it out without proof instead

Matthew

13:45

@Jacco Else you end up with the situation where a manager leaves, and the whole department's delegation settings get deleted

silverpenguin

@HamZa proven that women are far better at academics than men, though i am uncertain if that also means intelligence

HamZa

@Simon heh, if I worded it otherwise then it would mean men are better than women in general

Jacco

@Matthew, yeah, that makes sense. I should be able to transfer the delegated permissions tree to a new subject.

kalina

@Simon primarily though it was to quickly move on from @RоryMcCune's last conversation

like, an entire page on

onwards

Simon

o

kalina

13:47

a FULL PAGE OF TEXT

o

Rоry McCune

@kalina you can't Scroll me off the screen!!!

that's impossibru

Arperum

@RоryMcCune But what if she does?

Simon

IMPOSSIBRUUUU

Rоry McCune

(which is like irn-bru but less possible)

@Arperum I will merely post more garbage!

kalina

@RоryMcCune but I did

all the way off the screen

Ohnana

13:48

@RоryMcCune as opposed to your normal posts

Matthew

It's a lot harder to scroll someone off the screen when you have a 4k screen...

Rоry McCune

@kalina I know, I was helping :op

Matthew

(I don't...)

Rоry McCune

@Ohnana oooh nasty!

silverpenguin

my chair wont stop squeeking at work when i rock... my co-workers are threatening me with fire and other such violence

Simon

13:49

@Ohnana Whoa.

Ohnana

@RоryMcCune >:)

HamZa

@silverpenguin get some wd-40 :P

Arperum

@silverpenguin Yea, then stop rocking, or get a different chair?

silverpenguin

@HamZa no WD-40 in the office! tried olive oil... it worked for half a day

HamZa

lolwut

Ohnana

13:49

the best part is when you have a squeeky chair and you're wearing headphones so you have no idea how much noise you're making

Simon

fkin olive oil as a lubricant

silverpenguin

@Ohnana thats why im fine with it

MWHAHAHAHA

Ohnana

@Simon 0/10 would not reccomend

oh, not that lubricant

Simon

Yeah no kidding.

silverpenguin

@Simon my logic is ... "hey its oil"

Simon

13:50

@silverpenguin Ouch.

What do you put in your z3?

Transmission oil the engine?

silverpenguin

@Simon dont say such things about my baby :<

Matthew

@Ohnana My desk at home has a drum pedal under it...

silverpenguin

i treat my Z3 with love

Matthew

@silverpenguin And use baby oil on it?

Ohnana

@Matthew oh man

silverpenguin

13:52

half a G last month just on tires

Simon

@silverpenguin Dude... That's cheap as hell.

silverpenguin

@Matthew and kiss it on the bonnet

@Simon half a G in british money

Simon

4 good low-profile tires would be in the range of 1k.

Fine, let's ask roro.

@RoryAlsop RORO HOW MUCH WOULD 4 LOW-PROFILE TIRES LIKE HANKOOK VENTUS V12 EVO2 COST IN BRIT LAND?

Rоry McCune

@Simon I spent £500 on winter tyres

Matthew

@Ohnana It's good - my office is on the side away from neighbours, and I tend to be the only one home when using it

Simon

13:53

No idea why I used caps.

Matthew

@RоryMcCune I didn't buy winter tyres. I live in a warm place

Simon

@RоryMcCune God damn it, ambiguous roro but it does help. Were they performance tires?

silverpenguin

@RоryMcCune nice, you drive a rear wheel?

Rоry McCune

@Simon Pirelli Scorpion

@silverpenguin 4x4 Freelander

Simon

@RоryMcCune I don't know shit about Pirelli.

Rоry McCune

13:55

@Matthew and I saw that pic you posted of someone who'd flipped their car in the snow, IIRC

silverpenguin

@RоryMcCune winter tyres!?! 4x4 care not for snow :P

Simon

@silverpenguin What tires did you get anyway?

in b4 you don't even know

Rоry McCune

@silverpenguin still makes the stopping distance better, which is v.important on single track roads

silverpenguin

@Simon nothing special just some dunlops!

Simon

o pls

Matthew

13:56

@RоryMcCune That wasn't me...

@RоryMcCune I've never posted any photos on here except from Google images...

silverpenguin

my roof is covered in cat hair....neighbour cats keep sleeping on it :@

Simon

@Matthew Oh sorry, that one was taken from your computer.

Rоry McCune

@Matthew ahh my memory is playing tricks on me again, that'll happen

hmm where did I see that then

Matthew

Did have a car slide into the back of me last week, but that merely proved that my tyres (and brakes) were good - my car didn't move!

Simon

Did you murder the guy?

silverpenguin

13:59

I once rear ended an audi TT it was 6 months old

Matthew

@Simon Nah, was feeling generous. And there wasn't any damage

Simon

@Matthew in b4 unexpected rust spot

Rоry McCune

@Matthew ahh that's what I was remembering, I somehow had that tied in with a picture of a car crashed... see snow tyres are good!

Simon

@silverpenguin You're a bad person.

Rоry McCune

@Simon you're an unexpected rust spot

Matthew

13:59

@RоryMcCune By that logic, I should buy tyres for everyone in the city if it rains?

Simon

@RоryMcCune WOT HOW DARE U

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