The DMZ

Rory Alsop

00:00

did he say what he thought?

schroeder

@RoryAlsop I think my answer sealed it for him

Rory Alsop

@schroeder erm...

schroeder

@RoryAlsop "I admire his artistry, his skill, and his bravado. I, myself, am a trained musician, but he does something I would never be able to do. I would go to his concerts to support him and his band." ... "But, no, it's not my taste ..."

Rory Alsop

lol

schroeder

the entire call shifted at that point

Rory Alsop

00:02

As soon as I get our folk/acoustic version uploaded I'll send you a link - see if you like it instead

schroeder

I'd be interested!

next call is with David Calder

sometime next week

Rory Alsop

Worked with Dave a fair bit, as has @RоryMcCune

:-)

In various banks

schroeder

oh cool - how is he?

Rory Alsop

he's alright, is Dave :-)

TildalWave

00:22

Anyone watched Legends of Tomorrow?

David Freitag

01:27

So GitLab is fantastic

@TildalWave Never heard of it

TildalWave

@DavidFreitag imdb.com/title/tt4532368 just the first part of season 1 aired so far

David Freitag

@TildalWave Doesn't look very good...

TildalWave

that's why I asked

Mark Buffalo

01:55

imgur.com/gallery/ToP22

hnnnnnnnnnnnnng

David Freitag

@MarkBuffalo What's with the cardboard in that first image?

Mark Buffalo

@DavidFreitag It's super-ghetto but it helps separate the wires to the point where modifications can be made earlier

For example, need to disconnect something, put something else in

Changing cables is hard work

David Freitag

@MarkBuffalo imgur.com/gallery/ToP22/comment/567777237

@MarkBuffalo He looks a bit pissed

Mark Buffalo

@DavidFreitag uggggggggggggh

are you old enough to remember that?

David Freitag

We didn't have cable when I was a kid

Mark Buffalo

02:03

We didn't either until my dad came back

Mark Buffalo

03:44

vocativ.com/news/273599/anonymous-operation-flint-water-crisis

drove by these guys recently

cops pulled them over and stopped them

Rоry McCune

10:54

funny how you forget you did stuff, was wandering through the metasploit source looking for something and found my name :op github.com/rapid7/metasploit-framework/blob/…

I remember when we first checked that in we forgot to bail if the underlying lib wasn't there and we broke metasploit for anyone who didn't have it installed

I guess they're a bit more rigourous about QA these days

Terry Chia

@RоryMcCune Rory is internet-famous. :P

Rоry McCune

@TerryChia yeah I'm not sure that one file out of x thousand in metasploit counts for that !

although breaking the build might count for (in)famy

Terry Chia

@RоryMcCune heh

I have a 2 line commit in the Linux kernel adding a description to 2 kernel modules back when I was exploring how the kernel dev process works. :P

Totally useless but kinda cool. :P

Rоry McCune

yeah kernel commit's gotta be cool

Telkitty the Web Developer

12:57

Has anyone seen this before? Is it a virus or malware?

Terry Chia

@TelkittytheWebDeveloper ...

Telkitty the Web Developer

?

I have this tiny window icon on the screen every now and then

Like 10 secs a day on average ... don't laugh it's true

so ...

TildalWave

13:27

Why shouldn't we laugh if it's true? Funniest things usually are true.

Looks like VRAM corruption to me

Rory Alsop

13:45

That's all I could think of as well

Telkitty the Web Developer

Thought corrupted VRAM would produce simpler but more persistent patterns on the screen

Have an extra tiny windows icon on your screen for 10 seconds when you are on your PC 5 hours a day??

Maybe it's not a tiny windows icon after all, so small, can't really tell

that's the only thing I got though, nothing else ... & have been happening for like, at least a month now?

TildalWave

And we can't really tell what the problem is either. What makes you think that it could be a virus or malware?

Rоry McCune

(dodgy graphics driver || dodgy graphics card || dodgy monitor)

TildalWave

It could be a sign of hardware failure. It could be icon cache corruption. It could be just bad video drivers. It could be some VRAM artifact left there by a process that didn't terminate gracefully. It could be.... whatever

We don't actually look into crystal ball to answer questions here

Telkitty the Web Developer

Monitor is new though ... had it for, like half a year?

TildalWave

13:52

it's not monitor, it wouldn't be in printscreen then would it?

you could have pieces of your breakfast on your monitor and they wouldn't show on printscreen

Telkitty the Web Developer

Also my PC gets really busy when I open web browsers when I only have 2 SE chats open, but when I checked for items on the resource monitor, everything is normal

TildalWave

have you considered that you're using too much memory and there's some process corruption going on?

Telkitty the Web Developer

@TildalWave My breakfast wouldn't not magically disappear after 10 seconds either, thank you over much

and I don't have meals in front my PC

TildalWave

geez I'm done here

I don't care what your problem is

go away

Telkitty the Web Developer

@TildalWave would 2 SE chats consume too much memory? I doubt so ...

TildalWave

13:56

ignore...

la la la la

Telkitty the Web Developer

~_~

fine ... mark it for the 2nd unsolved mystery on my book

TildalWave

I'm looking forward to reading it

(not)

Terry Chia

Where do all these paranoid idiots come from?

Do they have a farm where they breed them?

TildalWave

no idea, but they do love to draw conclusions out of where the sun don't shine

Rory Alsop

14:26

@TelkittytheWebDeveloper the problem with what you have there is that it could be anything. And @TildalWave pointed out the most likely. Without actually analysing your machine it is incredibly difficult to tell you whether or not your machine has particular issues

Assuming compromise by malicious attacker is usually the wrong place to start. Not always, but usually

Guys - be nice though. Even when we get misguided paranoid folks, please be polite or just ignore them.

TildalWave

well, I tried both

@RoryAlsop isn't that impolite? :P

Rоry McCune

14:45

@TildalWave (as it's the wknd and @Simon won't be here) pls tildol, you donut, you kno what roro meant :op

TildalWave

hahaha

fair enough

it would be nice if we actually said somewhere that we're not some software/hardware support tho

you know, so we can point at it whenever help vampires visit

Rоry McCune

room topic changed to The DMZ: A special place where bears are ursine overlords, ponies are pyros and mods are self-censoring... non-Sec.SE mods please consult the local team before considering bans :) PS we don't do hardware/software support [crypto] [donuts] [infosec] [nono-support] [security] [webappsec]

better?

TildalWave

much, thanks!

Rоry McCune

I wonder if there's a limit to how long a room description can be...

TildalWave

ha now I see we actually have nono-support in the room description :)

@RоryMcCune I don't think there is

Rоry McCune

14:49

@TildalWave yeah I thought I'd add the tag for extra emphasis

TildalWave

ah you mean text length, not as in if it ever expires

OK OK I'm gonna make me moar coffee then

maybe you should try LOL

Rоry McCune

heh yeah I could add a new line each week and see when it finally barfed...

TildalWave

@RоryMcCune nice touch... what always confuses me is that the post announcing new chat description doesn't also display the previous one

> non-Sec.SE mods please consult the local team before considering bans

It happened again??

Rоry McCune

@TildalWave nah I've just left that there as we seem to get the odd spate of flags from randoms

TildalWave

gotcha

Rоry McCune

14:54

and then people go turning up from out of room and wielding the banhammer

without knowing the context..

TildalWave

yeah that's unwieldy LOL

Journeyman Geek

>_>

I DIDN'T BAN ANYONE!

(This week)

(month)

(maybe year... )

TildalWave

well it's January

Journeyman Geek

Well certainly not here ;p

TildalWave

I banned one via flags just yesterday, but not here either

for spam

Mark Buffalo

15:01

@RоryMcCune You can code!

Rory Alsop

@TildalWave well deserved!

TildalWave

funniest thing about that incident is that I could probably help that user promote that new site a lot, but was put off by their way of going about it

I actually used to work in that field and still keep contact with loads of people in the industry that might be interested in it... heck I was at EGU GA last year and I'm probably going this year again

Mark Buffalo

16:41

@TildalWave Missed opportunity :(

TildalWave

17:12

Maybe. Frankly, I'm not sure that a new SE site for that (Remote Sensing and Photogrammetry) is even needed and related expert groups could be supported by existing SE sites like Geographic Information Systems, Earth Science... It would likely struggle as a standalone site, and there isn't much of a "community" for what is in reality applied in so many different ways and for so many different applications (oceanology, meteorology, geology, geography, other geosciences, biology & ecology, even intel gathering,...)

Mark Buffalo

17:22

nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/…

that is so scary :(

TildalWave

17:33

@MarkBuffalo it is but I don't think it was indisputably linked with the zika virus yet, there's other possible causes for it like cytomegalovirus or toxoplasmosis which both are pathogens previously identified in Brazil

sorry for teh nurdz faktor, I was just reading something about it the other day LOL

not many folks here is there? almost feels like it was weekend or something

Mark Buffalo

It's not just Brazil, it's 22 other countries

Yeah, my family is sleeping... so I'm doing... nothing?

TildalWave

I know... it's just that what I was reading was focusing on Brazil

I dunno what connection there is with other likely pathogens causing microcephaly in other countries, but I doubt that any of the three now being investigated can be disproved

Mark Buffalo

Apparently being caused by mosquitos

TildalWave

and one theory is that it's linked to multiple infections

in combination with zika and some other virus I forgot which one but also transmitted by mosquitoes

some encephalitis type IIRC

@MarkBuffalo heh mine too

Mark Buffalo

imgur.com/gallery/y3HvWYW

wtf

wtf user submitted lol

TildalWave

17:43

"don't believe in vaccinations" LOL

Mark Buffalo

lmfaoooooooooooooo @ the vaccination needles

TildalWave

gets bitten by an infected mosquito / tick / flea / ... "you're not building my immunity by dead viruses when I can get live ones and die you mothafokkers"

Thomas Pornin

6

Mark Buffalo

@ThomasPornin You vs. Tom Leek?

Thomas Pornin

These bears are from Kamchatka, so technically Russian. This may explain things.

David Freitag

19:38

Dude this place looks really freaking nice

Mark Buffalo

Where?

David Freitag

@MarkBuffalo About a mile from where I currently live

Thomas Pornin

@DavidFreitag Raw concrete ceiling and generic "advertisement only" decoration. I would not call that "nice".

David Freitag

@ThomasPornin Well its a hell of a lot nicer than where i currently live

Thomas Pornin

High ceilings are good, though, if you want to indulge in some fencing or kung-fu training.

Mark Buffalo

19:48

@ThomasPornin That was my luxury condo in China. 5 bedrooms

Concrete shell

David Freitag

@ThomasPornin It works out because my roommate is one of those wacky waving inflatable flailing tube men

TildalWave

@DavidFreitag is that an open sewage system just under the terrasse?

David Freitag

@TildalWave Yeah, they call it "the river brown"

Mark Buffalo

@DavidFreitag youtube.com/watch?v=oMl25TsYpZg ?

David Freitag

Family guy - Wacky waving inflatable arm flailing tube man

►

Mark Buffalo

19:51

@DavidFreitag nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

TildalWave

@DavidFreitag ewww

David Freitag

@TildalWave I was kidding, it's a freaking river

TildalWave

@DavidFreitag look closer under the terrasse damnit

under that rail

David Freitag

@TildalWave Yeah... it's a pipe...

TildalWave

yeah

Thomas Pornin

19:53

@TildalWave It might be the exit pipe for rain water falling on the roof

TildalWave

and why is the lawn in cyan?

Thomas Pornin

Because Photoshop.

David Freitag

@TildalWave Because it's a recently renovated manufacturing plant from a loooong time ago. that color is from the seed/fertilizer

Mark Buffalo

@DavidFreitag $?

TildalWave

so basically it's a condo for singles, no kids ... that's gonna develop into a real interesting neighborhood LOL

David Freitag

19:58

@TildalWave its great because i fucking hate kids

literally every single apartment around me now has kids and dogs

TildalWave

@DavidFreitag I meant that it looks like it's gonna end up being prostitution paradise

Mark Buffalo

weather.com/storms/winter/news/…

David Freitag

@TildalWave Wouldn't surprise me for this neighborhood.

TildalWave

I rest my case :)

David Freitag

Besides, you say that like it's a bad thing :b

TildalWave

20:03

hahaha

Mark Buffalo

@DavidFreitag Same, but not my own

David Freitag

@MarkBuffalo Same, if I had kids I'd adore them, but not these little fuckers

Mark Buffalo

ya

right now im holding my son as he sleeps... its awesome

David Freitag

@MarkBuffalo Yeah nice little heater core

Mark Buffalo

lollllllll

David Freitag

20:08

@MarkBuffalo Uhhhhh a lot

Mark Buffalo

amount?

Mark Buffalo

20:22

I need to buy an iPhone

Thomas Pornin

@MarkBuffalo There are 32246 items listed as "iphone" on EBay.

Mark Buffalo

well a new on

one*

I'm making a game right now

David Freitag