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Q: What does it mean by Big Brother?

Shaloni SharmaWhile searching some sites, I came across this advt, looks like this: They specifically mention Big Brother is watching you, so is he referring to our own government is spying on me?

Not 100% sure how to respond to that.
00:57
@Xander - S/he must be young - I gave a link to the wikipedia entry and marked it to be closed as off-topic - the wiki page explains about the use of the term in common vernacular
01:48
@NeilSmithline My vote is for a non-native English speaker. But the link is good.
 
5 hours later…
07:05
Morning!
07:24
Morning
08:03
Morning.
Morning
Late morning.
now shuddup, I have like 3 months of work to do by next week, and not nearly enough coffee.
@AviD ahh is that why you've been so quiet
that, and holidays
note to self: scheduling AppSecIL right after the local holidays is good for attendance, but very sucky for organizing, logistics, sponsors, etc
very VERY sucky
note #2 to self: never have project crunch time right before AppSecIL.
Especially not 3 projects.
#fail
Morning commute today sucked. After 90 minutes I had travelled 6 miles. So turned round and took 9 minutes to get home again. WFH today then :-/
08:25
@RoryAlsop yikes accident on the A720/M8?
Nope just low sun, little icy fog and rubbish drivers on the A71
@RoryAlsop pants :(
08:50
@RoryAlsop WFH == What F**ing Hell?
@AviD Working From Home obviously.
no, I think mine is more right.
09:08
I have just spent €4000 on pc parts
That's quite a lot.
I have purchased the basis for two machines, one based on a 5960X and one 6700K
whichever is better for music will become my new music pc and the other one will become my new gaming pc
I will have to reuse one of my graphics cards though because I didn't get a new graphics card
AH, I might need to upgrade my pc at some point. It's getting older.
Although I haven't had the need yet. I haven't had any game I couldn't play howI wanted.
Joy. Incident has happened so no wfh. Commute number two, now with added RTA's
Oh 2 machines ?
09:18
Gah. kicks past self I was a bloody moron. Probably still am.
09:32
@M'vy yeah well I couldn't make up my mind and both PCs I use need upgrading so why not
might as well suffer all of the pain in one sitting
@kalina true
also means I have a basically in tact sandy bridge machine to give away at some point
@kalina you'd just need to work out a way of doing it whilst preserving your anonymity..
like a dead drop in a park or something
@RоryMcCune or do what I did last year and just donate to the same group
then it's not even an issue because they already know me
@RоryMcCune She doesn't have to give anonimity away, some person has to give his address to a stranger on the internet so it can be sent.
09:38
but, since this is the first time I'll ever be retiring an ssd that didn't fail
can you actually "empty" an ssd?
@kalina yes, probably involves fire
and is bad for enviromnent
I didn't want to be researching secure erase this morning
I'm going to get back to the other thing I was doing
@kalina Secure ATA wipe should work
although I've heard that some firmwares were a bit dodgy in that regard
@Arperum unless the courier wants a "return to sender" address...
@RоryMcCune deaddrop location
@RоryMcCune if I had to send a parcel and maintain anonymity I'd just use our designated address
but realistically, you're not going to post a PC + case + heatsinks + etc
09:50
@RоryMcCune True. And the chance you can figure out what country it comes from is real.
oh you'd figure out which country it's from, it'd be far too much effort to mask that
that would be like travelling between countries
not outside of the realm of possible though
do some major misdirection and drive up to scotland, post it to a rory from a scottish post office
You could send it when you are someplace for a show. Although that does require dragging it around for a while, with the added costs of having more luggage causes.
@Arperum sure, tbh though within the schengen area you just border hop
here, post this
goes home
True. Still requires you to drive/get past said border.
hence... effort
09:55
Yea.
or you just give all of your old technology to local orphanages, foster homes, etc
last year when cleaning up my stuff I found I had two Wiis, a Dreamcast and a N64 sat in a box
you get a heatsink and you get a case, and you get the motherboard, and you get the rest.
with a bunch of games
I don't know why I had two wiis
well, I do, but I don't know why I still had two wiis
just easier to box it all up and go here you take it
</cleaning>
@Arperum well I suppose if you were going to send a PC to somebody over the internet, you'd only send them the motherboard/ram/cpu
with no other parts
heatsink would probably cost more to send than it's worth
but then I'm left with the remains of a PC and nothing to do with it, in a condition where I can't even really just give it away because it doesn't do anything
an interesting look at what various technology companies do to your audio when you upload it
10:11
Alex Warren on September 29, 2015
Is your current job awesome? Or could you be doing better?
I like how many of the last blog posts from SE have been about how awesome the company is to work for, like they're trying to cover up for something
:D all of my parts have been picked and are now in a box and presumably on their way in my general direction
or several boxes
else that will be a big box
10:54
@Adi "Vlad" heh - just noticed
@RoryAlsop does m2 memory need pushing in at all or is it zero insertion force before you screw it down?
teh googles didn't answer that question
11:13
@kalina m2 memory?
m2 ssd
No idea tho, I've not used that yet
yeah it'll be m.2 SSD. some of them plugin vertically (like mine does) and stand up like cards off the MBoard, others kinda slot in like RAM chips and have a screw to attach them to the MBoard
Adi
Adi
@RoryAlsop Damage control :D
11:31
@RоryMcCune heh. Or what I did with my old GPU
Meet at a public place...
and since the neighbours set the country on fire, no one would consider it odd if I wore a mask... ;p
well it's been ages since I built a PC so I'm just relearning all the stuff that is different before my things arrive and I break them :p
on this board it appears to be hidden in the space under one of the PCIe cards
and screwed in
@kalina that's where the Elder Rories new one was, IIRC
@kalina pls, where's ma Google play musique?
like Google are relevant to the music industry /rolleyes
11:42
pls
I thought you musos would be all about that Pono music service
the expensive one with the toblorone looking player
porno?
@RоryMcCune: Naw, I want an odac2 tho
We need stock answers, and to be able to close question with a stock answer. So for instance, any question in the form of "Does X mean that Y is storing my password in plain text?" could be immediately closed with the stock answer of "No."
shut up new blue
@Xander this conversation appears to be about another site in the network.
11:48
@Simon you're not a fan of authority figures are you...
@RоryMcCune I think he's trying to create something we have in common
pls
@kalina that thought did occur
I think it's disgraceful that he'd be so obvious
shows a distinct lack of effort
-.-
11:50
;p
yeah you need to up your game @Simon
as much as I hate the super double double negative negatives the first thing that came to mind was
i don't want no scrubs a scrub is a guy that can't get no love from me
wat
wat
created enough <something> to silence the channel, victory for the winner \o/
-> stuff
pls
12:02
@kalina I can never hear that without thinking of JD and scrubs
@RоryMcCune Great show
Great old people.
ROAR
Removed my other desktop managers and now my workspaces in GNOME 3 are mirrors.
le fu-
@Simon c'mon now stop lion
@RоryMcCune They told me I could be anything so I became a cloud.
oh this board supports 2 m.2 ssds
12:10
Does it support bad music production because that'd be just perfect for...
ME HAHAHAHA YOU THOUGHT I WAS GONNA REK YOU
It's morning, give me a break lads.
you can't rek me with comments like that
it's hard to take it personally and then alt tab to continue working on music
@Simon your problem is using desktop managers
@RoraΖ Yeah you're right, let me code some VB6 with vim and compile that shit in a terminal and then test the interface with my left nut.
@Simon wtf are you talking about?
Interesting. Switching my graphic driver and now it's no longer mirroring.
@RoraΖ I SAID GIVE ME A BREAK IT'S LE MATIN
12:14
@Simon soz I don't speak Canadian
Roro made a mean story.
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Q: How can I use the previous command's output?

identiconI was trying to remove all files in a folder with the .class extension, so I made a small shell script. Can anyone tell me why it isn't working and offer a solution for my problem? The script: #!/bin/bash ls | grep .class for i in $* do rm $i done

This guy's life must be complicated if he tries every single tiny problem with a script.
12:42
@Simon Dude that's how the pros do it
@RoraΖ I bet that some donut who argues about everything would actually claim that.
@Simon Maybe he's just trying to learn bash scripting
although you'd think he'd find a better example, maybe script something useful.
Yeah especially when it's about deleting files, this could lead to unfortunate events.
@RoraΖ So far the only moment where I hate the mouse focus thing is when I'm trying to type in a non-full screen VM and my mouse steps out.
@Simon I alt+tab a lot so if my mouse accidentally moves while I'm typing in a command in one of my SSH sessions then it gets frustrating.
@RoraΖ Ah, gotcha.
13:00
lol mouse focus
lolwindowsisspyingonyou
^@kalina you been making meme posts..?
no, I wouldn't get into such a shitty relationship in the first place
which is why I'm single
everybody keeps offering my shitty substandard relationships and I keep rejecting them
lol.png
Love is all about offering your services as a man/woman.
@kalina you mean these standards that include a NDA?
13:08
no
@kalina there's no NDA, so that means @Simon can kiss and tell?
wot
Interesting...
aw yuh my Nexus 5 being a baws.
QQ
Did SE break?
13:21
Looks like it.
This might be our last messages in the chat, farewell my friends.
O_O when did SE start running on Cloudflare?
It's back up, we're saved.
@TerryChia Last year.
Abby T. Miller on May 19, 2014
Welcome to Stack Exchange Podcast #58 brought to you by the Stack Exchange iOS app! Our hosts Joel Spolsky, David Fullerton, and Jay Hanlon are joined this week by our guests, the Stack Exchange Design Team: Jin Yang, Stéphane "The French Guy" Martin, Courtny Cotten, and Josh Hynes.
@Xander Huh, they have really good uptime when I'm surfing then. Never seen that page before today.
@Simon HUZZAH!
13:25
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A: What happens if an attacker steals my phone's IMEI number?

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@TerryChia Yeah, they seem too. I've seen it a couple of times (and this is the second time this week) but it's super rare.
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
@Simon So's your face
The kids these days, what with their fancy Unicode art and such.
@RoraΖ WANNA EDIT IT SOME MORE OR YOU'RE OKAY FOR NOW?
@Xander I remember when on AIM you had to do alt+9+8+7
@Simon I'll edit your face
13:29
@RoraΖ I don't think simple editing can fix his face.
pls
@Xander I'm surprised this still exists
#lazymods
@Xander Kicking one of these things into non-existance is fun. Also -12 and still not dead? WHy are people downvoting and not flagging?
@kalina ovid has been MIA for a few weeks, roro is busy $big_banking, jeff has been MIA for years and the new guy, well, he's not xandur.
SE is le dead again.
it's ok @Stephane is here to keep you company
look at all of this enthusiasm:
in The Bridge, 12 hours ago, by Raven Dreamer
oh. Kalina's back.
I hadn't been active for hours by that point and I haven't chatted to him in probably years
some people /sigh
13:52
Wow. LAst time I was in the Bridge is ...
It's not even in my favourites
@M'vy Never for me. :P
I removed lots of rooms from my favorites like last week
that list was still in the state it was when I originally left
I had anime & manga and mechanics and everything there
"Stack Exchange Community Blogs "
I feel like we should raid them soon.
This reminds me of the good old battle.net days where we would load/flood other clan channels.
Good times, good times.
14:09
@Simon Which game?
@CodesInChaos Any that was on battle.net so SC, D2, W2.
@Simon Lies. You're too young to even know those games :)
@CodesInChaos Those were the very first online games that I played when I was 13.
I have no idea how I managed to communicate with other players with my broken English but it did work.
I played a lot of SC over the years. But I never stopped sucking.
Yeah, the gap from average to pro is quite a big one.
14:12
Unfortunately it pretty much died when SC2 came out, which I didn't enjoy much.
I've never played it, I feel like it wouldn't be as good, which is what I thought of D3.
@Simon I was talking about the gap between me and average. I think I had cases where somebody who played less than a dozen games managed to beat me when I had 1000+ games under my belt.
Oh wow.
The mechanics are easier or what?
@Simon No, I just suck at gaming.
Oh, haha.
14:16
Or perhaps it's just due to me just playing for fun instead of trying to improve my weaknesses.
@AndrewSmith Hey
@CodesInChaos Which is what gaming is supposed to be about anyway.
I was just in pharmacy and GP and the police stopped me on suspicious of having illegal drugs
hopefully the one I had were legal
I had also note from my GP with the meeting in 5 minutes they stopped me
Oh the paranoid andr oid ew is back
14:19
@CodesInChaos it's Andrewid
@AndrewSmith I'm assuming you're fine since you're chatting on the DMZ.
@M'vy Isn't it Andreeeeeeeeeewwwwww?
yes they searched me and found the prescription, legal drugs and note from my GP
and I was passing some place of sacred value which is just few meters from my GP
These are not the andrewids you're looking for.
I sit down for a while because I had back pain because I was sporting a bit but then when the police me put me up from sitting
I had real adrenal attack, because of the meds
and had to sit again
and whos paranoid
;-)
14:21
Funny how he came back here not long before or after Begueradj got unsuspended.
yeah
they didnt search my phone hopefully
but now I understand why i hate the whole world ;-)
you needed additional information to understand why you hate the world?
does that mean you decided one day that you hate the world without any real reason to do so?
now I know
Is Andrewid a bot?
only to subsequently find justification later?
14:26
@RoraΖ No, just an undesired individual.
because that's fundamentally flawed
kalina has many good reasons to hate the whole world.
@Simon So are you
that I do
the list of reasons is sadly quite long
@RoraΖ Are you really taking his side?
You like him?
14:27
None of you wants to be my friend
I don't understand why you dislike him but chatted with lighty
this is usually bad omen
very bad one
@Simon I was just making a statement
@kalina I would constantly let lighty know that he was a dumbass.
@RoraΖ Ok, phew.
and yet you'd continue being his friend
I am disappointed
14:28
this is not good
His friend?
please tell me why you dislike @AndrewSmith
Because he constantly comes here to post wall of texts.
About his fucking retarded adventures.
I have adventure with phantomjs and selenium most recently
it is very interesting how this technology can be used in simple way to achieve pretty much advanced goals
it does load the web page with javascript, and returns html which is representation of the DOM
and it's easy to script logon, so this way one can monitor security and other things in neat way
That last sentence means absolutely nothing to me
14:31
for example, it can even grab pictures from the security camera web-pages
you're saying lots of words but they have no meaning
@kalina That's just lovely how he's proving my point.
the meaning is that phantomjs is now the cool tool for getting your security tests done
I like tools
so when phantomjs returns html, it is the same html which one can see after javascript does all the changes, so it basically makes javascript pages as static html which is easy to search
just strip tags and search text
I am gonna make even command line utility so it works with Nagios
14:35
but why would you do that?
@kalina Are you really that bored?
everybody knows that open source software should be avoided at all costs because the NSA fill it with spyware
sometimes the best solution is to just go with the most expensive because then you know its limited user base is more likely to result in more security by obscurity and that's good
maybe instead of Nagios you could instead make it compatible with Microsoft Access since that has a larger install base and thus you'd be more relevant to whatever market it is you're aiming for
but tbh you're talking about development and haven't once mentioned jquery so I think you should just scrap everything you've not achieved so far and re-implement using jquery
speak to Jason while you're at it because he's a big fan of json and will probably talk to you about that forever until you know Jason or json inside and out
or outside in, as the case may be
@kalina Whoa.
whatever floats your boat
@Simon what is the matter old simon?
I make it running on Tomcat and use Command Line in C to integrate with Nagios
14:39
@kalina :(
@AndrewSmith oh you should totally use IIS and powershell in C# to integrate with azure
@AndrewSmith I like cats.
@kalina microsoft powershell and azure it's nothing special really
Groovy on JVM is much more powerful in system administration and many other like builds, e.g. jenkins workflow
this includes monitoring like Nagios
@AndrewSmith neither is c, tomcat, tomdog, command line, terminal or nagios
Microsoft has no monitoring tools in Azure on their own, e.g. they do not monitor mongodb whatsoever, and the sql server is not horizontally scalable
14:41
@AndrewSmith Leeroy Jenkins is my idol
the Jenkins workflow is fantastic
throw caution to the wind and just get on with it
it's my favorite workflow
yeah so does the powershell workflow in azure is my idol too
Opensource is free and powerful
Looks like somebody set kalina on fire and replaced her by a markov change generator.
no serious company does closed source any more
only games consoles
;-)
@CodesInChaos pls it's chain, and how insulting
@CodesInChaos change? (chain?)
14:43
inb4
rekt
ninjaed
@AndrewSmith pls name a serious company that doesn't do closed source
@kalina I tried windows 10 few times but I must have been unlucky so far
didnt spent much time on it either, but I'd like to see e.g. some easy visualizations from microsoft
you've tried Windows 10 a few times in the month it has been released?
that's really trying
14:44
for big data for example, some proper tools
speaking of proper tools
This discussion is so meta
@kalina Ok, I have to admit that you're more advanced than a markov bot.
I'm still insulted
I'd warn you of my pending account deletion but i'd never have an account on a site as nonsense as cryptography.se and I doubt anybody else in here would either
o
@M'vy it's funner if you have one of the participants on mute :)
14:51
why would you have me on mute :(
@RоryMcCune I'd made a joke by suggesting it's not the obvious one, but I'm not in the mood right now. Could you please assume I did?
I don't deserve muting
Damn I keep being ninja-ed today!
@M'vy needs more skillz
@kalina Clearly
14:53
I think you ought to know I'm feeling very depressed
Here I am - brain the size of the planet
and @RоryMcCune has me on mute!
Call that chat satisfaction? 'Cause I don't.
'Cause she ain't
@kalina So you're finally admitting that you are bot.
@CodesInChaos Yeah but she won't enjoy it.
@CodesInChaos no, just ridiculously intelligent
I don't think I've ever muted anyone. Huh. I hadn't realized until right now that I had lived such an unfulfilled life.
14:55
I guess you pitiful humans would never be able to comprehend
Sorry Marvin, your cover is blown. OPSEC is hard, one misstep and you're done for.
@Xander oh ok :( well I will save wasted effort and return the favor
@CodesInChaos Marvin does not do music
@Xander Popped my ignore cherry yesterday, it was great.
Who on earth is Marvin?
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@Simon You. Really. Suck.
14:56
@Simon Nobody.
@Simon not on Earh, that's the point
Really.
wat
and people have the nerve to call me uneducated
@Simon :facepalm:
14:57
Marvin, the Paranoid Android, is a fictional character in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy series by Douglas Adams. Marvin is the ship's robot aboard the starship Heart of Gold. Originally built as a failed prototype of Sirius Cybernetics Corporation's GPP (Genuine People Personalities) technology, Marvin is afflicted with severe depression and boredom, in part because he has a "brain the size of a planet" which he is seldom, if ever, given the chance to use. Indeed, the true horror of Marvin's existence is that no task he could be given would occupy even the tiniest fraction of his vas...
IS THAT THE CHARACTER?
IT'S FROM 1981 YOU GOD DAMN MONGS.

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