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14:00
> and for the right PC gamer, it's the perfect surround-sound solution.
ie: stupid
@Flyk It has 7 drivers for each ear. It works perfectly for games that support 3D sound.
Which is as far as I can tell, all of them.
"all of them"
minesweeper doesn't support 3d audio
Somehow I knew that exaggeration wouldn't go unnoticed.
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@Flyk I like their mice and keyboards, but wouldn't look to them for high quality audio
@raz They have a reputation for being the shittiest build quality ever. So far though, I have had no issues in the past two years.
14:04
razor don't make anything I would call "high quality"
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The last mouse I bought from them was 6 years ago, they were fine then. Not sure how they are now.
It's true, I have a first generation naga that has also stood the test of time.
passable != high quality
@Flyk and of course "high" is relative
Ok, sure, it's not carved out of a single block of marble by a group of artisans, but it has never given me a moment of trouble.
14:07
"high" is always relative
For a piece of technology, that is saying quite a lot.
I don't really view a keyboard/mouse as "technology"
Then you should get your eyes checked.
hello i asked a question and it has lot of views suddenly..why?
my eyes are fine
@whiletrue who knows(cares)
which question
14:10
@whiletrue hi, so there's a couple of potentials. Some questions get semi-randomly tweeted out by the site Twitter account. also questions that go on the "hot questions" list will attract views
@whiletrue no-one really knows how to predict what questions get a lot of views but it does happen...
Dude, you asked the question 6 hours ago, it's not like if you asked it 12 years ago and now suddenly it's gaining tons of rep.
@RоryMcCune I really doubt this site's twitter bot is cared about enough to create a sudden burst of views
@RоryMcCune how where can i find site Twitter account
14:12
@Flyk we're only talking 500 views here, and the bot has 1349 followers
@whiletrue the answer to your question is highly likely "that's how long it took to get indexed by google"
@whiletrue twitter.com/StackSecurity but it wasn't that
@whiletrue looks like the Q. has entered the "hot network questions" rotation
so will get some traffic that way
Microsoft Word for Windows phone 10 looks functional
14:15
tnx foe knowing me
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@Flyk Lets be honest MS Word always looks functional
is that a compliment
@Flyk I think what he means is that it initially appears to be functional, then you attempt to use it.
@DavidFreitag and find out that it's functional
@RоryMcCune I do have to admit, that has been my experience thus far.
14:19
it has it's idiosyncrasies but I generally find I can get stuff done with it..
itsecurityguru.org/2015/08/10/… <-- Ohh FFS, if this is true. HTC storing fingerprint data in cleartext on a world readable directory
oh, HTC storing fingerprints?
not without consent surely?
@Flyk well people would've known they were using it, but storing it unprotected means that hacker gets access to your phone and gets your fingerprint... a credential which is kind of hard to revoke
If your biometry based system relies on keeping the biometric feature secret it's crap anyways.
Biometry is only as good as the sensor's ability to tell apart fake and real.
@CodesInChaos indeed, you'd still kind of hope the vendor would protect the credential information on device
@RоryMcCune tnx for the answer .
14:27
@whiletrue no probs, hope that's useful
I think the solution is to design my own smartphone with my own software on it
LF developer to build world defeating smartphone OS
sure.
And/or run templeos on it
We shall call it Fandows
Half Android, half Windows
it shall be compatible with all the things
@RоryMcCune does tor hide out ip?or send fake ip?or completely different way
@Flyk MS are working on that already, they have the ability to easily run Android apps on windows
14:30
@RоryMcCune of course, because Google tried to make Android stuff run on Windows and it scared Microsoft into thinking that Google were attempting to embrace/extend/extinguish them
@whiletrue essentially ToR sends your traffic through what's called an "onion network" which means that the IP address seen by the end website will not be your address, nor should it be easy to connect it to you (as long as you don't do something like log into the website with a known user name...)
@Flyk which they will be, it's an ecosystem war now
and since there hasn't been a proper antitrust lawsuit in some time, and Microsoft finally realized that they certainly won't be protected by the law in the same way as their competitors were during the 90s so they have to act fast
@Flyk Google v MS v Apple v "the other players (amazon/facebook etc)"
Apple is not a competitor
Sure, they have a massive stack of cash but since Steve Jobs died Apple have achieved nothing
and I don't see that changing
give them another 15-20 years to spiral and it will be the mid 90s all over again for Apple
@Flyk you my hero for that
@DavidFreitag this came in On Friday! Super happy with it :) apc.com/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=BR1500G
14:34
designers need somebody to cause a disturbance or else they're far less effective
battery life on this 930 isn't bad though, considering it's several years old
think it's better than my HTC
@Flyk you have the lumnia?
Using Windows 10 or 8.1?
I have a lumia that I bought for testing Windows 10
because if I don't do this sensible approach, when it comes to contract renewal time I will end up with a windows phone and an android phone for no real reason other than wanting one
@Flyk I have the HTC 8X. Debating if I want to upgrade. What carrier are you on?
How do you like the Windows phone?
@JukEboX why is that even relevant?
@JukEboX split pretty much 50/50
@Flyk just curious on the carrier.
@Flyk I am on VZW and they upgraded their upgrade fee to $40 and I am all BS about that especially if I have to get a $300 phone
14:40
@JukEboX: Only really relevant if you're american
I can literally walk into my carrier's customer service center, tell em I want to cancel my line, and keep the number, and switch to another carrier.
Maybe the other way around.
@JourneymanGeek I am out of contract at this point since my phone is almost 2 years old and Want to make the upgrade this fall when WP10 comes out
@JukEboX: I haven't had a contract in... 2,3 years
and I don't want to upgrade since my older plan gives me more data, even if its 3, not 4G and my phone is 3G only ;p
@JourneymanGeek you just pay for the phone out right?
I still use my HTC Trophy when my main phone dies. WP7 FTW!
@Flyk Good and bad of WP10?
14:44
@JukEboX: I think with my carrier it's minimum 2 years.
@JourneymanGeek You just pay for service on the phone at min 2 years?
Makes it cheaper?
@JukEboX: I don't want to switch plans ;p
@JukEboX Yeah I just use an 18V marine battery with an inverter that I soldered together.
a bit. I get a little off
I might switch carriers if the new carrier gives me a better deal tho.
@DavidFreitag sounds super safe. LOLOL
14:47
@JukEboX What about it is unsafe? The circuitry in my inverter is the exact same as yours, but mine cost a whopping $15 including the slavaged battery.
@JourneymanGeek well the deal works but the coverage is also paramount for me and my family
@DavidFreitag just my typical non-enginneeerring mind not hassling you. As long as it works for you. You have a gauge which shows your draw and a circuit for if the power goes out?
@JukEboX It has a microcontroller with a non-invasive current sensing transformer, I can send it serial commands via bluetooth to get that info
It uses that transformer to constantly monitor the power draw, if it cuts out it switches to the battery and inverter within 50 milliseconds
@DavidFreitag how long does the battery last on your setup?
@JukEboX it's not android/ it's not android
oh and the store is basically empty
@JukEboX With one standard 18V marine battery, just over 8 hours for one monitor and no gaming. But I have three in parallel, so at least a day.
14:54
@Flyk Store is empty because companies think that people only use Apple & google.
@DavidFreitag damn! Must be heavy to move though
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So is Meta broken?
Because I can sign in
@JukEboX Yes, these batteries are approximately 120% the size of a normal sedan sized 12V battery
@raz It's because of https
@raz good nobody wants to read your opinion anyway
@DavidFreitag That's the advantage I have. My old UPS was 60 pounds. My new one is only 30 and can monitor much better and easier to move plus more plugs.
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@Flyk No one wants to see my face either but too bad
14:56
@JukEboX Mine has one main 15A output which I run to an off the shelf surge protector strip. It never moves, but if I had to it wouldn't be a major hassle since it's all on a small cart
@DavidFreitag Parallel is for sissies. You should put them in series.
@DavidFreitag and why do you need that?
@DavidFreitag LOl that's awesome!
@LucasKauffman What self-respecting electrical engineer doesn't have something like that?
@Xander 's UPS is a thermonuclear generator :P
14:58
I don't have a UPS since everything in my house is powered by the tears of ISIL
@Xander I could, and the resulting 54V output would relieve some of the stress on the main transformer.
It was something I wired up with a small 12V scooter battery in high school for gits and shiggles. It has since grown with more batteries from a local salvage yard and a beefier circuit to handle that much current output.
@DavidFreitag I am going to have to come see you when I need battery help:P
Heh, batteries are simple and easy, it is getting a nice crisp sinusoidal output that is difficult.
Devices designed to run on AC mains get really upset if you have a square wave or sawtooth output.
@DavidFreitag translation to what I read "electric electric electric. BOOOM sad face"
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LOL :P
@JukEboX That about sums it up, minus the terrifying buzzing sounds and magic blue smoke.
15:06
@DavidFreitag basslines don't have this problem, although for best effect it's nice to put a solid sine wave below it to get the air moving
Actually, 50/60Hz is probably right in the neighborhood for a good solid bassline.
You should connect your sub woofer directly to the mains output, you know, for science.
@DavidFreitag I prefer 20-30 for the low end
What did I do to get linked an article that I totally won't read?
15:19
I suppose it's time to put some pants on and go to work.
@DavidFreitag pants are overated
@Simon you must've had a quantum entanglement.. don't tell @simon's.donut
@RоryMcCune lOl
@Simon see now that your donut has visited here we can all ping her :)
@RоryMcCune Is that... a euphemism...?
15:22
@DavidFreitag it was a combo pun/euphemism,
Almost lunch time \o/
Anyone here who speaks German wanna translate something for me? die-wuestens.de/rd/IW26.pdf
Damn dude
It's only a few words here and there.
I don't need the first page.
I'm totally starving
I might die if I do not insert food
15:35
@DavidFreitag I don't speak much German but it appears to be some device with 7 lights that are supposed to mark out days of the week.
@ThomasPornin They are 7-element nixie tubes.
The original datasheet is in Russian, and this reference is in German.
Slightly closer to english.
@DavidFreitag This explains the "ив-26" notation.
Which terms do you need translation for ?
@ThomasPornin Pretty much all of page 2 and 3, Google translate isn't really helping me, I think I might need someone who speaks both english and german and is also familiar with nixie tubes.
there is no such person
those three requirements rule out 100% of the world's population
@Flyk The person who wrote this document probably speaks english, I just don't want to pester him with an email out of the blue.
15:41
why not, seems like a thing to do
In fact his phone number is listed on his site, I could just call him.
@DavidFreitag I can offer a few translation, but not for everything.
@DavidFreitag and then he can be all like "Ja? Was ist los? Ich habe keine Zeit herumzustehen!"
In page 2, the text appears to say that the filament draws 80 mA, and an extra 15 to 22 mA depending on how many lights are on (22 mA when all 7 are on).
ich spreche kein deutsch
15:44
"Von unten" means "from below"
@Flyk Me: "Sprechen Sie Englisch?" Him: "Nein." Click.
Tsk, peasant.
The small indications like "(Rot)" are the pin colours; "Rot" means red; "Ws" is white, "Gr" is green.
I figured that much, I just didn't know which each one represented. Pretty sure that's just the color wires he used.
it's a trap
rot means yellow
don't fall for it!
DON'T BE A VICTIM!
Wise up, get stupid!
15:46
The "kurzer pin" is a "short pin" and pin 6 is soldered to it.
@Flyk lol.
"Zahlen in Klammern" means "colour in brackets", and I guess that "Originalunterlagen" means "the original specification" (the one in Russian).
So that note says: "colours in brackets from the original spec"
@ThomasPornin Yeah that's what google thinks too
@ThomasPornin Zahlen = Numbers, not colors
"Ansteuerung" is an actuator
@CodesInChaos Ah, someone who actually speaks German.
15:54
oh noes, ze Germans are here! Sacré bleu
Oooh...."All-new receiver incorporates advanced military technology called Digital Signal Processing (DSP)" Apparently DSP is military technology now. I had no idea.
Maybe this means I can use my A/V receiver as a weapon.
@Xander They had to transition from the 1960s at some point.
heh some of it might be a subject to ITAR, like if it's super fast it can hit you really hard on the head :)
does that mean my PC has super high grade military components in it?
@Xander Sure, get it moving fast enough and you can kill.
15:56
@Flyk Apparently.
should I be careful talking about the two DSP cards I have in my machine in case people think it's a weapon of mass distortion?
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@Flyk according to most republicans in the senate, yes
Which parts are still missing?
@CodesInChaos What about "zum segment"? Any ideas on that one?
Literally "To the segment", no idea what that means in this context.
16:00
This is for a segmented vacuum fluorescent display
The colors might be "Bl = blau = blue", "Vio = violet", "Sw = schwarz = black", "Rot = red", "Ge = gelb =yellow", "Brn = braun = brown", "Ws = weiss = white", "Gr = grau = gray", "gn = gruen = green".
Pin for light 6 is internally connected to the short (pin).
I think that should about do. Thanks @ThomasPornin and @CodesInChaos! Hopefully when I connect this up to 140V it doesn't go POP.
Numbers in parentheses as in the original documentation.
And the red lettering above the 4017 are weekdays presumably
yes, starting with sunday, saturday down to monday.
@Flyk Aren't you a Brit? You shouldn't be able to write such accented letters :P
16:09
@CodesInChaos all logic goes out the windows when it comes to @Flyk
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@simon's.donut <waves>
you in here to make sure @Simon is behaving himself?
@simon's.donut ! Is that your bunny?:
ya know we now have quite the range of animal based avatars in here, from bunnies to bears to ponies to llamas, to tiggers to dogs and well I'm not sure that adipose count...
@RоryMcCune Don't be speciesest - adipose totally count.
@DavidFreitag but are adipose animals?
16:17
@RоryMcCune Animal: "a living organism that feeds on organic matter"
But can it love?
@DavidFreitag what do adipose eat?
makes Shakespeare gesture
@RоryMcCune Google has failed me. I would presume something organic, since they are organic.
@CodesInChaos "café" is a valid English word
16:26
@DavidFreitag I will be looking out my window for the smoke from your house if it does
@JukEboX Neither 140V or a small vacuum fluorescent display contain enough energy to create a visible smoke trail from 50 miles away
@DavidFreitag again "electric, vaccum, tv, smoke" LOL jkjkjkjkkjkkjkjkj GOod luck
@DavidFreitag Bah, your realism is boring.
@Arperum I should apply 2.5kV DC to it, that might make a decent bang.
@CodesInChaos this is your assumption, not mine
I have never stated "I am of X nationality"
16:36
@DavidFreitag Feeding Electricity right into the realism center of your brain starts to sound interesting, you're learning quickly.
@Arperum sounds like he knows how to have fun with over abundance of electricity :P
@Arperum Or a 12V car battery and some jumper cables.
@JukEboX adorable, you think you've got me all worked out
exactly where I want you
@Flyk I am sure I am nowhere close
@Flyk used lull
super effective
@Flyk In your closet with a box of kleenex?
16:39
@DavidFreitag erm, no
unless by closet you mean dungeon
in which case, still no
@Flyk Oh? Dungeon? Good thing he brought his ball gag.
A Chinese cookie I just ate contained the message: "You have a quiet and unobtrusive nature".
wat
surplus to requirements, as if I have a dungeon and not a ball gag
@Flyk makes me laugh
16:40
I'm glad somebody actually likes me turning up
@ThomasPornin what? I couldn't hear you.
@Flyk Sure, but perhaps he did not want to contaminate your ball gag.
it's only used on victims, contamination isn't a priority
@Flyk I think you would be hard pressed to find someone in here that actively dislikes you.
Some people are just a little too good at pushing your buttons.
@DavidFreitag really? I can see at least two in the user list just with a glance
16:42
I can see 163.
I was enjoying that mouthful of food
@Simon makes me laugh
in my list of favorite DMZ users, Simon is right up there
definitely in the top 100
top 159
@Flyk Really? Who?
I am pretty sure everyone can press @Simon 's buttons :P
I am 164 :P
@DavidFreitag when did this conversation become about me? Let's focus on @Simon and his sock puppet @simon's.sockdonut
16:45
pls ain't no socks puppetting here
which he's using to test himself on sexuality.SE to prevent any unnecessary embarrassment when he asks where the clitoris is
Oh jeez
pls
there, there, @Simon, yes, clitoris is another name for the nose
pats on head
@Flyk Hahahaha
16:47
seriously though, definitely in my top 5
And your #1?
well I can't answer that, can I?
Ron Jeremy.
eww
I wasn't really expecting an answer, but I had to try.
16:48
what a vile sweaty obnoxious balding little man
@Simon you're too young to know about Ron Jeremy
obviously #1 is joint between the rories, everybody should know that
I would say @RоryMcCune is number one since he is using a Unicode "o"
nurd
@JukEboX But @RoryAlsop saw the birth of the universe.
16:50
@Flyk \o/ :)
@JukEboX ask him why he's using a unicode o
cuz the other roro was getting ping'd 24/7
@Arperum for all we know, he created the universe and spawned all life in it
True.
> In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.
well, guess it's time to put pants on and leave for work
16:54
@RоryMcCune why the Unicode "o"
-.-
@DavidFreitag quick question: pants as in overwear or underwear?
@DavidFreitag released today: play.google.com/music/m/…
@DavidFreitag good luck Dave! Work extra hard to afford more monies
because the latter means you've been chatting to us hanging completely loose, and I'm not sure I'm comfortable with that
16:54
@JukEboX @Simon just said. People were pinging @rory to get @RoryAlsop and I was getting pinged as well
@Flyk lol
@RоryMcCune I was pinging every rory, I needed a rory and you removed my convenient method of attracting all of you at once!
It didn't matter which rory
@RоryMcCune LOL so you had to change? That sounds like it would be a pain for @RoryAlsop
simply that a rory responded
@Flyk heh well many people were doing it for Mod-Related matters which is more him than me
@JukEboX yeah now gets all the @Rory pings even if the person was looking for me :)
16:56
also, pinging multiple people with a single message is a win
@Flyk yeah they should allow @* for April fools day next year
@Flyk Both, really.
that would be awesome
@DavidFreitag what an image
@JukEboX I frequently work >60 hours a week, but only get paid for 40 of them
16:57
from now on I shall start all group internet communications with "are you wearing underwear?". Totally won't sound weird at all...
WTF? Go home for those 20 others
@DavidFreitag .................................................
@JukEboX I am home for those 20 others
You're getting paid 3$/hr and do overtime that you're not getting paid for?
@Flyk sounds like a sound prerequisite
16:58
sets fire to @JukEboX
@fly
@Flyk An image of what?
@RоryMcCune If they allowed regex in pings it would end pretty terrible.
@JukEboX obviously only group communications, it goes without saying that I expect all one on one communications to be undertaken without underwear on...
@Simon Ahno, $13.5/hr...
16:58
@DavidFreitag You do have your degree now, right?
@Flyk of course. In a cool metal chair as well right?
@Simon Technically, no.
Huh?
@JukEboX who said anything about chairs?
@DavidFreitag where do you work?
16:59
I spend most of my time in chat in bed
@Flyk oh my
Also, @Flyk I was wearing underwear, however I needed a fresh pair.
seriously, I didn't need that level of detail
@JukEboX A family-owned manufacturing company in tolland
Well at least now you know I wasn't chatting whilst flapping in the breeze.
THERE'S A BREEZE AS WELL?
well that ruins everything
17:00
A BWEEZE
@Flyk ahahahah
Of course, I have a fan or two running.
I have a fan... or two...
@Flyk he was sitting at his desk with no pants very close to 3 boat batteries. Imagination GO!
nope.jpg
17:01
I don't have an imagination that could do anything with three boat batteries
Not "very close" within 5 feet
I'm the sort of person who cries when electronics break, and then dismantle them by smashing them to pieces before complaining it's broke
@DavidFreitag so flopping distance ? :P
Possibly the dumbest thing I've ever said: "installing a new graphics card... smoke is bad right?"
@Flyk come take care of my "broken" electronic grenade pin holder"
died at that comment @Flyk
17:03
and the dumbest thing I've ever thought is so bad that I can't even go there
and I have never managed to plug in a USB device first time (connector is always upside down)
ok
That is like the one I made with my boss when he put hard drives in the microwave to destroy them "Is it supposed to smell like that?"
@Flyk that is the USB curse of any computer savvy person
Because sledgehammers are overrated.
@Simon is jealous that I'm chatting to somebody else, can you all see this?
CAN YOU?
...
@Simon front end loaders are more fun
pls
17:04
No, I'm just in a shitty ass mood.
That happens once every 3 years and that better fucking stop soon.
why are you in a shitty ass mood and how is this different from normal?
cuz
@Simon I'd go buy a donut if I was you
om
@Simon with sprinkles
17:05
nom
some comment about how @Simon purchases in his donuts and whether his current donut was purchased
ooh, tumbleweed
nothing to see here, @Simon is just on his manperiod
My urethra is bleeding.
you should inform everybody you've slept with recently that you're dying and that they should get themselves checked
@Simon so your donut is the man?
17:09
.
so your manstrual cycle is every three years or so?
Its like that ^^
(and that's the way it is)
to @Flyk elbow to the side nudge nudge
17:13
you entered my personal space without permission. Now it's time for me to crash the moon into your house.
equips space suite
is that a collection of space simulation games or is a set of applications designed for freeing up space
BOTH! Never know what you will need on the moon!
17:37
ZzzzzzZzzzzz
17:58
So @DavidFreitag leaves and everyone goes to sleep. sheesh
sup nerds

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