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14:00
Much misspell very wrong w0w
doughnuts are not the most amazing thing ever
they're not even in the top 100
they may be in the top 250 though, depending on your love of dough and/or nuts and/or circles with holes in the middle and/or jam and/or custard and/or sugar and/or ...
Blablabla.
I am immune to your blablabla
@Noordung oi!
"oi" is so English
14:04
@kalina not if I say it with an Orcadian accent!
"English", in this instance, is an insult
cut it out you ignorant children!
you are literally both correct, since "donuts" and "doughnuts" are different things!!
now shaaddaaap!!
This room was placed in timeout for 10 seconds; the topic of this room is "The first breach costs you an arm...." - conversation should be limited to that topic.
cranky tigger is cranky!
I think that if you'd attempt to put a timeout on me IRL, I'd slap you.
you know that you just put the room in timeout as a reaction to a conversation that hasn't actually happened anywhere other than in your head, right?
14:06
I tolja that this morning.
and I want me donuts.
@RоryMcCune he needs hugs. I blame the visiting trolls
@RoryAlsop yeah, tbf moderatoring took a lot out of me.
I'm damn cranky too this morning, I'm expecting to be this way until at least Friday night.
@RoryAlsop they were enough to make anyone cranky indeed!
@Simon you seem the same as normal
14:07
@kalina It would have been worse, trust me. I can control my emotions.
To some extent, that is.
@RоryMcCune they annoyed me
wit my Boba Crab hat
Yeah, why did they come here in the first place?
They sounded even more annoying than @Lighty.
@Simon no idea - they were asking exactly the same questions on here, the Bridge and another one
Sigh...
@Simon I still think they're in some way related.. bar that they were a band of wandering annoyances..
14:10
a band of wandering trolls
straw poll for the room, if I say "19th January 2038" what does that make people think of?
Unix time fuckup?
@RоryMcCune makes me get my neckbeard on :-)
I know it's happening in 2038, or is it?
@RоryMcCune my 63.5 bday?
14:11
@AviD LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
Yup, wiki says I'm right, win!
Unix time screwup day == retirement day
no way I dealin wit dat shiite
@AviD Then you'll be retiring at 63.5!
Woohoo!
@AviD Meh - it gets easier after the first couple of times :-)
^ lulz
@Simon indeed you're correct
14:13
I'm gonna have to deal with that shit because of you donuts who didn't think about the future.
@RоryMcCune Huh? OpenBSD have moved to a 64-bit time_t, so I'm safe...
@Tinned_Tuna you can be suitably smug at that point for another x years (where x is a very large number)
@RоryMcCune It's ok, I don't really get to be smug, that's my personal VPS. Our actual systems are still behind the curve on that...
I'm bored
@Kalina game on? :P
14:17
@kalina go watch n00bs explode against space station walls... that's got to be good for some entertainment
@RoryAlsop oh I've worked through a couple of them
@RоryMcCune Do they have docking computers in Elite Dangerous? And do they play Also Sprache Zarathustra?
@RoryAlsop IIRC there are but I've not played long enough to get one, docking wasn't too bad once you get used to it.. not sure on the soundtrack so far, will be interesting to see if hall of the mountain king features as well for that old-school feel
@kalina that's "oy!" @RoryA said "oi!"
@simon you been #yolo'ing your tests again? i.imgur.com/yD2e9H9.jpg
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14:30
> "The first breach costs you an arm...." - conversation should be limited to that topic.
erm, this doesn't sound right
@Noordung hey, talk to @ScottPack, thats his room baby thingie
we're supposed to limit our conversations to amputations?
or the cost of it?
@RоryMcCune YNKHSWFIYB UYPIUYB
@Noordung it's self fulfilling, the first breach resulted in the chat going into lock down, therefore once it comes out of lock down you should talk about the events that lead to the room being locked down
@RоryMcCune meh, I've done this enough to be bored
@kalina it only went 1.0 yesterday! you must get bored quickly..
14:33
I saw a video on youtube ages ago of somebody docking with their engines off, with silent running on, based on the momentum gained from a single afterburn with flight control off
and I tried to reproduce it for months
well, not months, more like a day
but it felt like months
it should really say "The first breach costs you a donut...."
@RоryMcCune I've had the game since 2013
@Noordung not you as well
the game in a form where I could crash my ship, anyway
@kalina yeah but the rush of n00bs which make it amusingly only happened yesterday
14:34
no, the noobs will ruin the game
@RоryMcCune I meant that we can all talk about whatever we please as long as it's not some donut lover talking
@Noordung s/donut/doughnut/
how can you pull off immersive space with thousands of idiots all crashing into the station you're trying to dock with?
we all know who the rules are for
@RоryMcCune right, but @Simon is a donut not a doughnut ... because the former is ... whatever ... and the latter are delicious :)
@RоryMcCune The teacher's reply is amazing.
@Noordung DON'T YOU DARE
14:37
@Simon Sweets, you're not filling me up!
Noordung reminds me of dong which reminds me of ding ding dong.
hello hello
@Simon it's not pronounced that way actually ... think German
translate: donut
(from English) donut
OMG this confuses even the translation bot
I'm bored
bored I am
I am bored
I'm bored
boredom
boredness
I'm bored
bored I am
I am bored
I'm bored
boredom
boredness
I'm bored
bored I am
14:50
I am bored
ya ya ya I am bored, bored I am, ya ya ya
Time for a cup of coffee
because I'm worth it.
Hmmm, delicious
I know I am
Yes, you are
14:56
Who's whining about what?
Nobody about nothing
@ScottPack we're having a "fun" "trolly" day :o/
@RоryMcCune Totaly true
What's the topic of today?
TROLLIES
15:01
I like TROLLIES
I don't, I'm bored of you now, welcome to my ignore list
Ohhh :(
What did I have done wrong :(
15:14
So, the new troll whose name starts with "S" (I said the new troll, you donut) flagged me but then I think he got flagged black.
That's karma for ya.
@MZeinstra You've spoken bad English, that's what.
@kalina Did you see what was his question before he removed it?
no
what did he say?
He asked your age like a creep.
boys on the internet, they know no boundaries
Can't deny that.
oh, apparently I'm being flagged
cya once the ban expires
15:18
-.-
Good luck.
@kalina WTF I see no flags...
@RоryMcCune somebody flagged "I'm bored"
You guys might wanna get rid of the new guys, seriously.
@kalina good grief
normally that gets approved just because it has my name on it
this time it looks like it didn't
15:19
@kalina Don't worry, it does that for me too.
Oh.
looks like we're resident in a town called malice now...
meh weak pun but I'm on punk songs this afternoon
Apparently the little boys didn't like being put on ignore
boohoo
@AviD @RoryAlsop someones getting flag happy again could you perhaps apply some mod powers to the situation....
@RоryMcCune did you see that one?
@kalina inb4
15:21
totes
it's a good job I'm using friendly, clean language, with all of these flags about
@kalina indeed obvious trolls are obvious
@AviD Help us out you donut.
I fed the trolls and now they're biting at my hand
rip hand
tbh, I think they're both the same person and should be dismissed for sock puppeting
15:23
@kalina I thought you'd been the spirit of reasonablness with them today (seriously) I started ignoring them way before you did
raz
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@Simon how'd you get a Tardis!?
a wat
@RоryMcCune I am nearly always reasonable, I am surprised you find this surprising
@Simon blue hat thingy
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@Simon Your hat you donut
15:24
Oh, edited 5 old questions.
@raz edit 5 old posts
They were from 2013 and below I believe.
I said this yesterday
@kalina sometimes you have been known to have a low tolerance for fools tho' :op
@kalina @Stefan and @MZeinstra are 2 individuals
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15:24
@kalina Yeah but I just ignore you
@Gerwin which you would know because?
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And @Simon
@Gerwin I'm not convinced that you're not also the same person as those two
@Gerwin Since you just came in here, it makes me believe that you are also them.
If you don't provoke me, though, I won't repeat it until somebody pays attention
15:25
you realize we'll only get more pointless suggested edits now, right?
here comes the ban
@Noordung Can it be worse than these trolls?
this one has to result in a ban
@kalina It'd be safer to just keep the language down. Just sayin'
@Undo It'd be safer for people with blue names to do some troll control
But we don't all get what we want
15:26
@Undo Your dog looks like a donut too.
also: hey, long time no speak, etc
Hello
im back
raz
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@Noordung I have the power to edit without suggestion
@Simon I have grown accustomed to infantile behavior here about the time you first joined us :P
Haha.
15:27
Hello simon! my friend
oh the holy jeez!
@noordung whats wrong
By "friend" you mean "the guy I flagged"?
kinda
mellons
15:28
you where really offensive
I'm glad someone flagged you back though, whoever that is, thanks.
so i had to.
And you are really French.
you too
Canadian technically.
15:28
@Simon who are you talking to?
nope
you are french
@kalina a ghost
Ghosts aren't real!
@kalina I'm about to do the same thing honestly.
@Simon do what same thing honestly?
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15:29
@kalina That's what they want you to think.
@kalina Ignore them.
@Simon what a good idea
I'm about to hit the button if you kids don't start having some positive participation here
What button?
:(
the red one
the one that says "don't press!"
15:30
what does it say inside
oh
@Undo was that method of seeing who was flagging ever properly implemented in a way that made it nice and easy to use, and if so, you can see who is doing all the flagging, right?
raz
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@Noordung Not the one that says Easy?
^ @Noordung not red :P
@kalina not really, at least not for run-of-the-mill offensive flags.
@Undo But is the "Hellban" button red?
15:31
it really is a shame
It's purple.
I'm saying that the fact the flags are still happening that the moderators are letting the side down
so why don't you just put the room in cooldown like you people normally do, punish your regular users rather than solving the problem, and then we can sit here in silence while they still keep flagging
He's out for 30 minutes
15:34
Cheers.
awesome, 10 more points for the only mod team on the network that cares
I can guarantee you that he'll be back though.
@RoryAlsop erm no I'm sure I pressed more than that :)
I was on a call otherwise I'd have got to him earlier
@Noordung I kicked him for 30
:-)
I made it 60
15:35
Wonder how to do a more permanent - he's obviously a troll
@RoryAlsop ya want me to?
Note: don't piss of multiple mods at the same time, it multiplies your bantime.
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@Undo that would be very welcome - annoying troll is annoying
How did the Bridge deal with him?
@Undo heya there didn't see you in a while
@Noordung Hiya!
15:36
@Arperum that's a good point
:-)
@RoryAlsop how's that?
Not sure we can do it per-room
416 days is an acceptable ban
@RoryAlsop He didn't do anything anymore, so nothing happened.
It can go higher, but I'm too lazy to open Postman and spoof a request for a thousand years or something.
@Undo lol - I'm not sure what his aim was at coming here to troll with his friend
15:37
it's fine, 416 days will miss the christmas period 2015
I see he has a valid account over on SO - with over 500 rep
oh wow, over 500 rep
@RoryAlsop A whole 500? He needs to teach me how to do this.
that sounds like... a couple of days work
shuddup you - I'm giving the benefit of the doubt
:-)
15:38
:D
I like to see the positives
the positives are my level of agitation is dropping because I'm no longer being flagged for no reason other than putting somebody on ignore
now that is a positive
Anyway, my work here is done. @Rory feel free to unsuspend and put in whatever number of hours you want in the suspend box, it'll go to 9999 and further if you extend the max-length on the box.
@Undo Thanks. You're a star
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Yay! Puts star sticker on forehead
15:40
Cheers boi.
Oh. Was there drama ?
I was busy decoding SSL handshakes.
@ThomasPornin nothing a bear couldn't have ripped to shreds :-)
Just annoying trolls
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@ThomasPornin SSL handshakes are encoded?
I think that's the first time I've handed out a non-lets-see-how-this-works chat suspension.
our kicking was slowly improving the situation, then Undo provided a much more long term solution
15:42
@raz There was a problem on a production system (timeouts...) and there was a suspicion that a CA was taking too much time to respond.
So they put up a Network Monitor to see the traffic between the CA and the server that talks to the CA.
That traffic is SSL.
For some reason, the version of Network Monitor they installed was not able to decode the handshake packets (that are not encrypted). They just had the hex dump of the packets.
the conversation went super geeky all of a sudden
I only went away long enough to get coffee
So they called me, and I spent half an hour decoding the SSL packets in real-time, from the hex dump.
@kalina It's always because of the same person.
(Turned out the CA was always responding in less than 200ms).
da ultimate nurd
15:44
@ThomasPornin did you hack the Gibson?
I've been trying to figure out how to run Wireshark on an old Macbook Pro, but apparently it's harder than one would think to catch everything on the network.
I can catch local traffic just fine
@Undo You had to install X, right?
Yeah, X11
Weird. I did have a hard time to get it to work on mine but it's fine now.
15:46
@Simon What config do I need to catch everything on a wireless network, or is that even a thing that can happen?
@Undo You've turned on promiscuous mode, right?
I think I tried that.
@Iszi when isn't Undo promiscuous?
oh, you mean the network...
Heck, for wireless I don't think you even need promiscuous mode - it's all the same broadcast domain.
Unless you're using enterprise-level security.
Ya that's it, promiscuous on the right interface and it was good to go.
15:48
@Iszi well, as long as it isn't enterprise encryption with per-user key exchange
I didn't have to set anything else.
For the hat lovers: I got the "treasure hunter" hat (on both accounts) with no action of my part.
@ThomasPornin me too
@ThomasPornin We don't like you.
@Simon So it's possible? I heard somewhere that it doesn't work on wireless networks because the information never hits your machine.
But it's in the air :P
15:48
Why the hell does @Simon have a TARDIS and I don't?!
Apparently, when you have a tag-specific badge, and the tag is renamed, then this counts as a "new gold badge" (or new silver) and you get the hat.
@Undo It is, I used it yesterday to read the POST requests sent to change the hats coordinates.
@ThomasPornin hmm, I guess I should go change some tag names
@Simon Even between another machine and the router?
(I'm completely new to this :P)
@Undo Last time I was toying around with it, I remember accidentally catching everything on the WiFi (WPA2 PSK) when I was just looking for local traffic. So, it shouldn't be hard.
15:50
@ThomasPornin what a nice bug, you should report it
Huh, okay
@Undo we had an unprotected wireless network for the CS department in college and I was sitting there and able to see every AIM conversation in the classroom
it was a bit disturbing
@Undo It was on my machine though so I dunno.
(The one that was running WS)
Now, you do need to be within point-to-point radio range of the other machine.
Otherwise, you'll just hear the router's side of the conversation.
gets out ruler Four feet should do, right? :P
15:51
depends on taste, size matters
@Undo FWIW for wireless I tend to use kismet + monitor mode then load the pcap into wireshark :)
@kalina Taste does too, doesn't it?
@kalina hey that's what @lynks uses for his avatar ... didn't see him around in quite a while
@Noordung who?
15:51
@Iszi taste matters if you intend to consume
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@ThomasPornin Well that sounds super fun
@kalina Well, "consume" can mean so many things...
@Noordung quit around the time I did
@raz This beats debugging WF code.
guess he doesn't care about hats
@Iszi yes, so ambiguous
15:53
Google "Christmas poems for cards" in hopes of finding something that is 6 lines or less... End up finding pages and pages of poems that are like 25 lines. Who writes these on Christmas cards?!
@Kisunminttu Psychos.
@Kisunminttu Hallmark.
@Kisunminttu Search for "Christmas haiku". These should be short.
@Iszi Nope, already have like 15 handmade cards. Glitter, glitter everywhere...
@ThomasPornin Brilliant idea! Thank you!
@Kisunminttu Right. The glitter is from the cards. Sure.
15:55
there's nothing wrong with glitter
August is so hot / Elves want air conditioners / And snowmen are scarce
Wtf
@kalina I don't think that he quit per se probably just busy having a life ... we might be able to tempt him back if we attended some CTF
@kalina I'm not sure the courts agreed...
@Noordung yeah, same reasons, having a life
@RoryAlsop what?
@Kisunminttu Why do you need so many Christmas cards?
15:56
@Simon it's called popularity, a concept you obviously don't understand
@kalina No, but there's only so much glitter that the glue holds. The rest is on my clothes, on my face, in my hair, on the keyboard...
@kalina Glitter... Gary....
@Simon I got a bit carried away with crafty stuff this year. And Christmas in general.
@RoryAlsop ...who?
@Kisunminttu I see. I'll be sending you my address soon enough.
15:57
nevermind, I googled, what a waste of my life
never going to get those 10 seconds back
@kalina are you really that young you don't know who Gary Glitter is/was
who dat
@RoryAlsop I'm only vaguely aware of the name.
@Simon Canada post will deliver this international card at around July 2015
15:58
@Kisunminttu luuulz
@RoryAlsop yep, no idea at all
obviously now I know he's a paedophile
but you know what
according to the news basically every famous person from the 60s and 70s is a paedophile
so I'm unsure why they're still walking around free
@kalina news != truth
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@Simon Once ordered something from Canada. Took them 3 or 4 months to deliver (stamped on the day that the seller told me she sent it). Before that I'd never ordered anything from Canada, I'd just heard the stories.

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