The DMZ

kalina

18:03

yes I did just spill coffee on my nexus 7

Simon

That's what you get for drinking coffee.

Scott Pack

@RoryMcCune You know what would be awesome? If ZAP had something approaching documentation.

Rory McCune

@ScottPack s'got a wiki code.google.com/p/zaproxy/wiki/Introduction?tm=6 what more do you want!

Scott Pack

@RoryMcCune It's amusing that the only thing this thing is actually proxying is dropbox. :)

Iszi

18:32

So, I just earned the "peanut gallery" "hat". Is anyone else just a little bothered that it includes a foam finger?

Simon

It's a pretty cool hat.

Iszi

18:55

Yes, but Miley Cyrus ruined the foam finger for everyone not long ago.

Scott Pack

@Iszi Eh?

Iszi

@ScottPack I'd point you to a video, or some Google terms, but you're better off remaining ignorant.

Simon

@Iszi You're too old to be aware and care about the whole Cyrus story.

Iszi

@Simon Given the media coverage it's gotten, nobody's too old to be aware, and anyone who would be wouldn't so much care about it as they would just be disgusted.

Simon

@Iszi Mr. Pack is a proper old person, he isn't aware of it.

Iszi

19:06

@Simon Mr. Pack also doesn't have children of an age to care.

Simon

@Iszi Does your daughter like Cyrus?

CodesInChaos

@Simon Lern to spel. It's Cyprus

Simon

soz o gr8 german

Iszi

19:41

@Simon Used to. Back when she was just Hannah Montana.

Simon

@Iszi Yeah she was fine back then.

Iszi

@Simon Perv.

Simon

Sigh.

SHE WASN'T CRAZY.

Is that better?

Iszi

Perhaps not yet entirely accurate, but less pervy.

Simon

qq

am eating grapes n qqing

qq

kalina

19:47

Nooooooooooo

Simon

in b4

kalina

Damn you bounty!

tylerl

b4 what?

Simon

in after

kalina

@tylerl don't teach him the errors of his ways

if he starts to "get it", we're all done for

Lucas Kauffman

19:48

today at my client:

tylerl

@kalina not a prospect that keeps me up at night

kalina

@tylerl I suppose the chance of him getting it is so slim that we don't really need to worry

Simon

@LucasKauffman Are you the fat computer operator in Jurassic Park I ?!?

kalina

@tylerl I issued a bounty and I'm maxed out at 195 rep, that doesn't count towards legendary, right?

@Simon Denis?

Lucas Kauffman

@Simon bastard.

kalina

19:50

Simon

HOW THE FUCK DO YOU KNOW HIS NAME?

YES HIM.

kalina

I watched Jurassic Park recently

all three of them, back to back

Simon

nurd

tylerl

@kalina There was only one.

ONLY ONE

kalina

that's not nurdy

Watching Lord of the Rings trilogy director's cut back to back

that's nurdy

Iszi

19:50

@kalina Can't remember the last time I watched JP, but I do remember Dennis Nedry.

@kalina More or less nerdy than the Extended Editions?

'Cause that's still on my to-do list.

Simon

@Iszi Funny how you can shuffle 2 letters to make "Nerdy".

kalina

are the extended editions longer or shorter than the directors cut?

Lucas Kauffman

Also @Adnan just replenished my beer stash:

kalina

alcoholic

Lucas Kauffman

@kalina I'm a connaiseur

@kalina besides the second shelve is to keep for another year

kalina

19:52

@LucasKauffman fancy word for alcoholic

Simon

connaisseur

noob

kalina

@Simon hi5

Simon

Your hand must be full of poison.

Iszi

@kalina Not sure, but probably longer. I can't imagine the Director's Cut matching the Extended Edition in terms of added content. Only thing would be if the Director's Cut actually started from the Extended Edition and added.

kalina

@Iszi iirc directors cut brings the trilogy up to nearly 12 hours

Simon

19:54

I watched the extended edition, it was gr8.

kalina

don't say gr8

we're not texting each other

Lucas Kauffman

b00b13s

kalina

or using a calculator

Lucas Kauffman

@kalina asl?

kalina

OR YAHOO CHAT

Simon

19:54

I don't even type "gr8" in texts.

NOBODY EVER FUCKING USED YAHOO CHAT SO FUCK OFF WITH THAT.

Iszi

@kalina Maybe Director's Cut and Extended Edition are synonymous in this case - that's about right for the Extended.

kalina

I'm not a fan of how much they're padding the hobbit to make it a trilogy

Iszi

Haven't read the books yet, so I have no opinion on the matter.

Simon

Why don't the both of you write the "Nurdism" book together?

kalina

...

you hate me and wish I was dead, don't you?

DON'T YOU?

Simon

19:58

wat

kalina

that's what I thought

Simon

I'm gonna code an extension for Google Chrome that replaces "what" with "wat".

kalina

with*

Simon

Really?

kalina

"what" with "wat"

Simon

19:59

FUCK

I RUINED IT

kalina

rofl

Simon

Does any non-foreign English speaker confirm this?

There, it took me 5 mins to fix it but whatevz.

kalina

you use "by" when you're talking in past tense but not with that word order like;

what - replaced by wat

Simon

Oh lawd, I didn't know.

kalina

happens

Scott Pack

20:00

@Iszi Aye aye captn

Simon

DONE

kalina

I helped @Simon, and he listened to me, I deserve a hat for that

Simon

And I deserve the "french as fuk" hat.

kalina

a baguette?

Simon

Yep

tylerl

20:02

@Simon I would argue that you, in fact, do not

Simon

y

tylerl

Perhaps "Canadian as a tuque"

But "French" would imply "French"

Simon

I'd rather have "Village idiot".

kalina

wasn't there a village idiot hat last year?

Thomas Pornin

@kalina In fact "with" and "by" are largely interchangeable after "replace", the traditional (but nowhere mandatory) rule being that you use "with" for a replacement which will happen in the future, and you use "by" for a replacement which already took place.

But you can also combine both to designate differently the replacement and who does the replacement.

Lucas Kauffman

20:08

@ThomasPornin L'ourse noire

kalina

@ThomasPornin I already said the tense stuff

Simon

l'ours noir

Thomas Pornin

E.g. "What" is replaced with "wat" by Simon's extension.

@Simon I concur: the bear on the photograph is indeed male (or so said the plaque in the zoo where the photo was taken).

Simon

It would have been weird if it was female.

On a side note, this is my second coffee in 2 days.

I might die.

kalina

lol

I've drank more coffee than that since I arrived home

Simon

20:12

I don't ever wanna get to that point.

neva eva.

kalina

without a coffee in the morning, I'd wrap myself around the first car I passed

Simon

I drink coffee in the afternoon for some reason.

Water is the way to go in the morning.

kalina

I don't wake up in the morning

I hate 5am to lunch

no coffee = driving with eyes closed

Simon

So, you're driving like a woman without coffee.

kalina

it's extremely rare I put makeup on while driving

and after coffee it's extremely rare I stay below the speed limit

45 in a 30 NP! oooh speed camera slows down and passes camera VROOOOOOOOOOOOM

Simon

20:20

vroom vroom

Scott Pack

NP?

kalina

NO PROBLEM

tylerl

Tourist walks off pier while browsing on Facebook

Simon

neopets

tylerl

> Police rescue woman from dark and chilly Melbourne waters still clutching her mobile phone

> "With Facebook, or social media in general as far as we're concerned, if you're anywhere near the water just pay attention," Kelly said. "Especially if you can't swim."

Simon

20:30

@kalina Do you think that @tylerl's stories are uninteresting?

I think I'm bipolar.

kalina

I'm sorry @simon, @tylerl's stories sent me to sleep, what were you saying?

Simon

@kalina lolololol

Stack Exchange

Blog - Stack Exchange: Who are you? Take the 2014 survey!

Alison Sperling on December 18, 2013

Hi folks, just a quick note here to remind y’all that the yearly Stack Overflow User Survey is live!

We’ve edited the questions/answers based on your feedback from last year’s survey and suggestions posted on Meta.

As a small token of our appreciation, we’ll be donating $1 for each completed survey to your choice of of one of this year’s Stack Exchange Gives Back charities (look forward to an announcement soon regarding this year’s full donations).

As always, we’ll be posting the results here on the blog once the survey is completed. …

Simon

I DON'T CARE.

Why don't you give the damn dollar to me?

Scott Pack

Wow, the occupation question really puts into perspective that's important to the authors.

Simon

20:41

@ThomasPornin Can I pay you to answer questions on my account?

Rory McCune

@ScottPack This survey really reads like "we want stats to show advertisers why they should put adverts here!"

stuff about purchase authority and budgets is pretty blatent!

Scott Pack

@RoryMcCune Oh sure, I expect that.

It's also very much, "Explain to us what kind of programming you do."

Simon

The sucky kind.

@ManishEarth Is your mom proud of all the hats you have?

Rory McCune

@ScottPack indeed one of the "up and coming" techs in their list I'd never even heard of!

(Apache Cordova)

Scott Pack

@RoryMcCune More than half of the sections on daily activities are programming, in fact all the technical duties are. Same with job title. They have 15 different types of developer then "IT Staff/System Administrator"

Rory McCune

20:49

@ScottPack heh I'm just "other" on their scale...

Simon

allo @AviD

AviD

indeed it is.

Simon

wat

CodesInChaos

Writing tests is so boring. I should acquire a test writing slave.

Simon

hi

@ScottPack The ragamuffin seems to be pretty active these days, do you think we can do something about it?

CodesInChaos

20:53

@TerryChia Unfortunately they have a pretty high false positive rate. So I need to still check the spam folder.

Scott Pack

@Simon Which one?

Simon

@ScottPack That one: security.stackexchange.com/users/30682/sajjad-pourali

AviD

@ScottPack tbf, SO users are about 85% of the entire SEI network users.

Simon

@AviD You're a SO user.

Scott Pack

3

Simon

21:03

LOL

AviD

@ScottPack heh. Cant say I disagree, I would say about 85% of SO users are not programmers.

well, statistically its probably more like 60%.

Simon

99.9% of statistics are made up.

Scott Pack

How do you use StackOverflow? Other: I don't participate in StackOverflow.

Douchwagons.

AviD

@ScottPack how long did it take Careers.SO to support any other site? Hell, its still .SO...

Scott Pack

@AviD I'm still waiting on meta.stackexchange.com

AviD

21:04

@Simon these aren't, but they could be inaccurate due to faulty memory.

Simon

@AviD How could you accurately figure that out other than by asking every single user?

AviD

@Simon which part? the 85% of SEI is SO (they mentioned this at some point), or that 60% are not programmers?

Simon

60% are not programmers

AviD

the 60% is based on well known studies, that approximately 60% of those employed as programmers, are NOT programmers, and in fact have nary a clue as to HOW to program or WHAT PROGRAMMING IS ABOUT.

Simon

your mom

AviD

21:07

My own anecdotal experience (seeing many many organizations and many programmers) matches this.

Simon

boring

AviD

so's your face.

yknow what's not boring? That you are emulating @kalina.

Simon

How is a face not boring?

wat

kalina

not sure if that's a compliment or an insult

Simon

Not sure what he meant.

AviD

21:16

@Simon you want to BE @kalina, @Adnan wont stop flirting with @kalina.... I think you should get together with @Adnan.

Simon

ok

The dude answered the same question twice: security.stackexchange.com/users/35754/kefe

AviD

that's not unallowed...

two of my highest scoring answers on SO are on the same question...

also, he may have just forgot...

Simon

Both answers suck.

Scott Pack

@AviD I'm surprised it's only 60%.

AviD

ah no, it is thinly veiled spam. I had removed the spammy bits from his first answer, so he re-added it. If he does it again, Imma spamflag him, no more benefit of the doubt.

@ScottPack hey, I didnt say the rest are good programmers.

oh durp, that survey? It is explicitly titled "the yearly Stack Overflow User Survey". So, duh, its about SO users, not SE.

dammit, I hate when they ask my age, and I keep having to select a later and later group.... :-(

Simon

21:24

Ouch, wake up call.

Scott Pack

@AviD The problem is that when you're talking to someone at corporate then they use SO to refer to both all the sites as well as SO.

CodesInChaos

I answered a question on stackoverflow twice. One answer on-topic, the other off-topic. The off-topic answer received more upvotes

AviD

true. and I refer you back to the 85%.

SO is also the only site with its own set of servers, its own DB server, its own chat server.... etc

@Simon on the other hand, I do enjoy selecting a lower and lower option in the salary question.

So there's that.

Simon

All of you should be obligated to tell me how much you make.

So I can drool and hope.

AviD

@Simon ah, that explains the @kalina situation as well.

Simon

21:28

durty

Thomas Pornin

@Simon I also answered the same question twice.

AviD

@ThomasPornin both times as you?

Thomas Pornin

@AviD Yes indeed. On the "How does SSL work ?" question.

AviD

ah, but that was because you hit the post length limit, no?

Thomas Pornin

I don't think I have double-beared any question so far, but I may in the future.

@AviD Technically, I did not reach the limit, but my instinct told me that it was close enough.

AviD

21:32

same thing.

@Thomas' instinct == reality.

Rory Alsop

finally - I am home. But still about 3 hours work to do :-(

AviD

oh noes! @kalina you got pushed down to #3....

Rory Alsop

@AviD - not yet had a chance to claim the Rory hat - I think I know how to start it

Simon

@ThomasPornin Well yeah, it is fine when the answer is actually decent.

Not when it's 3 liners twice.

IS SOMEONE REALLY EATING POPCORN AT THE OFFICE?

REALLY?

AviD

@Simon yeah, that was spammish.

Simon

21:41

Upon further investigation, I confirm that someone really is eating popcorn here.

AviD

hmm, what is the "I'm not listening" hat for?

Simon

A wild mysterious starrer appears.

Rory Alsop

@Simon I'm not wild

Simon

You're the wildest of them.

AviD

@RoryAlsop @ManishEarth I found another datapoint that seems to confirm my hypothesis. @ManishEarth you need another upvote, and its yours.

Scott Pack

21:52

@RoryAlsop Yarr!

Rory Alsop

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Q: How can someone go off-web, and anonymise themselves after a life online?

With data mining tools like Maltego and other correlation tools for large datasets, the assumption has to be that if we conduct any transactions online these can all be collated to build a good picture of what we do, buy, read etc (hence Google etc) If a normal person, with a large online histor...

kalina

@AviD meh, I have a couple of hats incoming

soon(tm)

AviD

@RoryAlsop I think I might know that one...

ManishEarth

@avid don't think I have the hat yet though

AviD

@RoryAlsop are you sure thats not a dupe?

@ManishEarth another upvote...

Rory Alsop

21:59

@AviD there was one that was associated, but was around going online and being anonymous, not what to do if you have been there and now want to vanish

ManishEarth

Ah

Rory Alsop

@ManishEarth linky?

I can upboat

AviD

@ManishEarth vote @rory

kalina

I'm not getting a hang of this rep capping business

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