The DMZ

tylerl

00:04

So... I saw this question on the site, and I thought I'd just ask that question again.

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Q: How to make my internet activity anonymous

I know there is a lot of questions like this, but most are dated and I wanted fresh answers. I have read Whats the best way to make my internet traffic anonymous? (I know, not a lot of research, but the Shnatsel posted a very informative comment.) Based on the couple of paragraphs the shnatsel...

Because I know the question is already out there, but I'd like to ask it again anyway.

TildalWave

00:38

What's going on here? How come I picked up 3 passive upvotes on that High-Freq Noise Deterrents question in one day? Was there any related rep train?

Terry Chia

00:50

@LucasKauffman Ah cool. I liked the content of his mXSS talk and he's a good speaker.

@Adnan What happened to you this month? Struck by the high-rep lethargy? :P

TildalWave

@TerryChia I'm just looking, he's only made 1/3 of what you did this month ... :O

Tho you only did 1/4 of what The Bear did with his Ursa Minor and Ursa Major :) And me... well I'm still on the first page with about 1/30 of The Bear's rep LOL

Terry Chia

01:07

@TildalWave Yeah, he completely blew past me last month.

@TildalWave That's to be expected. :P

That jerk @LucasKauffman only got such a high rep due to his "canonical" question. :(

TildalWave

@TerryChia Hehe yes, I just wanted to also reply with something that we can hold on to and take for granted. If he disappeared into the rainforest for a few years to test psychotropic effects of some exotic plants, he'd still be getting more passive rep than I would all of it combined :)

@TerryChia Yes, but it's a good one, and who's stopping you to post another one? :P

Scott Pack

@JeffFerland So's your face.

TildalWave

Hey @Scott what's new?

Scott Pack

@TildalWave Not a lot. Just got back from crashing an ISC2 meeting and drinking beer on a corporate dime. Good fun, surprisingly.

TildalWave

(not related to your reply to @JeffF BTW LOL)

@ScottPack Local meet?

Scott Pack

01:16

@TildalWave Yeah. The local chapter holds a monthly social meetup that, from what I can tell, doubles as their chapter meetings.

TildalWave

None of it here :( closest ones are in Germany and Italy, and there's one in Amsterdam in a week

Scott Pack

@TildalWave What about ISSA or OWASP? Are they active nearby?

TildalWave

@ScottPack Well in Austria, which is pretty close

Vienna is rather far, but Salzburg is not too difficult to drive to for example, I just turn right at the first ramp that's 200m away and drive straight on the AB until I hit it :)

D3C4FF

Hey guys

TildalWave

Sup @D3C4FF (decaff)?

D3C4FF

01:23

@TildalWave Usual. On-site doing a pen-test

@TildalWave whats new with you?

TildalWave

Nice. How's the winter in Oz this year?

D3C4FF

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Q: Can i compare linux user permissions without root access?

I've compromised two Linux user accounts on a RHEL machine (neither of which have root permissions) and I want to determine which account is more 'useful' to me in terms of access and privileges. Is there any way I can quickly and easily compare permissions/access between those two accounts?

linux permissions

TildalWave

@D3C4FF Moderating space LOL

D3C4FF

@TildalWave Varied between 5-30 degree's C

TildalWave

And debugging... was getting headaches yesterday for not seeing something that I solved in 5 minutes today after I slept some

D3C4FF

01:28

@TildalWave Ack, VMWare was giving me headaches yesterday.... Fucking VM crashed and corrupted itself -_-

Scott Pack

@TildalWave So...30 minutes drive? I'm just kind of spitballing here

TildalWave

That's still OK, it's not your fault ... I was going through dozens of pages of ASM code that had concurrency issues, and the worst thing about it - it was my own code that I wrote 2 years ago and never touched since

Scott Pack

Holy Crap! So I'm going through my DVDs and making sure they're all space shifted.

My copy of Seven is on two sides. Literally two sides. The first half the movie is on side A and the second half on B.

I have to flip the goddamn thing like it was a Laserdisc!

TildalWave

@ScottPack No, more... but there are a few other cities in Austria closer by, about a good half an hour drive and also host some events every now and then. But the landscape is pretty picturesque and I honestly don't even know how long till Salzburg, I rather enjoy the drive :)

My satnav says 2 hours 12 minutes

Scott Pack

Ah, that's a long drive for a meetup.

It takes me about 1:45 to do my weekly commute to the office and that's fine for once a week.

But, wow, so yeah. This movie came out in 1997. I can totally believe buying the DVD in '97 or '98.

TildalWave

01:36

Yup but with nothing going on here in the InfoSec arena ... and the city is pretty nice too, I like to chill there

Scott Pack

You should totally move

TildalWave

@ScottPack I know. I'm keeping my eyes peeled actually.

Scott Pack

Your English is good, how are you with Linux?

TildalWave

Dunno, prolly not too good, just a bit more advanced user I'd say

Terry Chia

@D3C4FF AFAIK, no. "Useful" is very subjective anyway.

TildalWave

01:42

I'm really more of a developer anyway, at least according to my work experience. Tho I've done all kinds of crazy shit in my times (I mean work related), everything from GIS to Demo scene to your run of the mill business suites

D3C4FF

@TerryChia I was thinking more in terms of file access throughout the system

Terry Chia

@D3C4FF I think you can string together a complex find command to determine the files you have permissions to read/write/execute.

Scott Pack

@TildalWave I had a guy guilt me into python. Dude said, and I quote, "Your beard isn't nearly long enough for perl."

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D3C4FF

@TerryChia My linux-fu is not that good :P

TildalWave

@ScottPack How long of a beard do you have? I have an overgrown goatee... I prolly look like Abe ATM :))

Terry Chia

01:46

@D3C4FF Look into the -user, -perm and -group flags.

That should do nicely for starters.

But it's pretty tedious I guess.

@ScottPack Python is awesome.

Scott Pack

@TildalWave Look at my profile picture.

TildalWave

:11151179 (re deleted post) Perhaps ... tho frankly I wouldn't mind making a bit of distance from all this developing business. I'm supposed to be trained in management and economy well enough to maybe start looking in those directions on top of staying in the IT of course.

Terry Chia

@TildalWave So... boring stuff? :P

TildalWave

@ScottPack Yup, quite similar if I'd tidy it a bit, I'm now more like some sub evacuee that didn't see a razor in a few months :)

Scott Pack

@TildalWave I can certainly get behind moving in another direction, but I'd say start with what you enjoy and then move onto what you can enjoy being good at. :)

@TildalWave I try not to go more than 10 days without trimming.

TildalWave

01:52

@TerryChia Not at all. There's one position available here for an "idea manager". It sounds a lot different than it actually is, I think it'd be a nice enough position. But sadly, it's in the banking sector and I wouldn't appreciate the atmosphere, not really.

@ScottPack Oh I'm too old to change too much... and too young to hit the middle age crisis. I wouldn't completely change everything, but I wouldn't mind going back to managing teams like I used to. You end up doing everything anyway, but that might just be exactly what I enjoy the most. Variety. ;)

Terry Chia

@TildalWave Hehe. Maybe it's cus I'm still young, but I can't imagine myself doing anything non-technical.

Scott Pack

@TildalWave Silly boy, you're never too old to change unless you think you are.

TildalWave

@TerryChia It would be technical, I forgot to mention that the position was for their dev team

Terry Chia

@TildalWave Ah. But "manager" gives the impression that you won't be doing the actual technical work...

TildalWave

@ScottPack I meant a somewhat balanced change, not a radical one. I don't feel "old", I just have some expectations and responsibilities that I didn't when I was 20, that's all I meant. ;)

Scott Pack

02:00

@TildalWave I can certainly relate to that.

It's scary to think about what my expectations and hopes are now than when I was 21.

TildalWave

@TerryChia That depends a lot on the team size, but the offer I mentioned was for a team of no more than 50-60 that are already non-technically managed. Basically, what the position is about is doing feasibility studies, but also security related stuff, like product certification e.t.c.

Terry Chia

@TildalWave Ahh, that does sound interesting.

TildalWave

It's not too bad, I've had similar jobs before... you sit through lots of conferences, fairs, whatnot... if you're any good, you're on occasion invited for a speaker at some, e.t.c. It's also a lot of pitching "under the table", if you know what I mean. ;)

Scott Pack

@TildalWave That sounds like a pretty big team to me.

TildalWave

@ScottPack It's in three countries, roughly 20 per country. What's holding me back is it's the banking sector. I tend to avoid those, oh and the advertisers.

Terry Chia

02:10

@TildalWave Cmon, you can be DMZ's second PHB after @RoryAlsop!

TildalWave

@TerryChia Pointy-Haired Boss?

Terry Chia

@TildalWave Yep. :P

Scott Pack

@TildalWave Banking is a bitch, though I think I would rather do that than healthcare.

TildalWave

@TerryChia I had an irokese once, in my band years already. I do have rather long hair tho, so all I need is a bad shampoo LOL

Scott Pack

@TildalWave In the US they're approximately equivalent in terms of regulation, but in banking the regs are actually defined.

@TildalWave So you end up with much stronger enforcement, but the measurements are known in advance.

TildalWave

02:13

@ScottPack I did work a bit with healthcare, wasn't too bad. Tho as a dev on some fairly interesting software, so that helped a lot

Scott Pack

@TildalWave I can believe that. Most of the healthcare regs are around patient data protection, whereas in banking it's quite a bit more holistic.

TildalWave

@ScottPack Yup that sums it up good enough. And that's the bitchy thing about it, you better not feel particularly productive, if you wanna keep any of your hair on

I'm still having an open mind about my future tho. Job offers are here and at this point in time (crisis after joining the Euro zone, we were doing just fine before actually) rather scarce to say the least. I do have my own business to weather the storm, but you know... no place for complacency.

Scott Pack

Understood. I wish I had more involvement in developery stuff that I could pass along contract information.

TildalWave

I'll look myself more, but I need to get rid of the current project first. I mean... to finish it, not to can it. Missus already kinda pointed out she's fine with moving countries (again, we just did 2 years ago). So that means more opportunities, and I'm kinda fed up with the non-productive environment here anyway, so ... yeah. We'll see.

Scott Pack

I presume you literally mean countries, not continents.

So where were you before Slovenia?

TildalWave

02:27

@ScottPack This is my birth place, but I lived before in Romania for 3 years (animal shelters and volunteering "business", on top of projects I brought with me, mostly from home), and Germany and UK for a while before that.

Terry Chia

@TildalWave At least you have the option of moving if needed. That should make things easier.

TildalWave

@ScottPack Meh it's all a global village now, isn't it?

@TerryChia That's my reasoning too, yes.

Scott Pack

On that overwhelmingly positive note, I'm going to bed. It's past my bedtime.

TildalWave

Good night @Scott, cheers for the chat!

Terry Chia

@ScottPack Sweet dreams.

Lucas Kauffman

04:36

Morning

@Tildal do you ever sleep :p?

TildalWave

@LucasKauffman Morning! Not so much last few weeks no... but I'm fond of sleeping otherwise :)

Lucas Kauffman

05:35

I wonder if @Thomas will hibernate during winter

AviD

06:00

Pop quiz: Who here thinks that XSS and CSRF are the same thing?

Show of hands, please.

oh nevermind, your names are permanently on the close of shame. ;-)

Lucas Kauffman

@AviD XSS and CSRF the same?

AviD

@LucasKauffman no, of course not.

Terry Chia

@AviD I don't see any names.

Lucas Kauffman

@AviD LINK ME

AviD

@LucasKauffman I DID

Lucas Kauffman

06:03

ah yes

but where are the names avid, the NAMES?

AviD

security.stackexchange.com/admin/posts/timeline/42093

Terry Chia

@AviD 404

That's a mod thingy I guess.

AviD

ahh, permission thing.... and close/reopen events dont show in the history by themselves...

anyway, they know who they are.

I mean, I don't expect @ScottPack to know any better - this is an....applications shudder thing.

ahh, boom! security.stackexchange.com/posts/42093/revisions

Name 'em and Shame 'em!

WHAT.THE.FRACK.

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Q: What do the dots and pluses mean when OpenSSL generates keys?

When OpenSSL generates keys you'll always see a series of periods/dots (.) and pluses (+). openssl dhparam -text -noout -outform PEM -5 2048 ............+........+................................................................................................................................

openssl

TildalWave

@AviD WTB is "the close of shame"?

AviD

oh snap, its evan. @ScottPack, quick do something, its evan!

Lucas Kauffman

06:09

@AviD yea we know

TildalWave

@AviD And I resent you even asking that :P

Lucas Kauffman

@AviD I didn't risk down voting him, oh noes

AviD

@TildalWave as in, you should be ashamed you closed that. ;-)

8 mins ago, by AviD

Pop quiz: Who here thinks that XSS and CSRF are the same thing?

@TildalWave and yet, you closed them as dupes.... :-o

TildalWave

@AviD I still don't get it... close what? You have a quiz bot here?

AviD

@TildalWave the 2 questions I linked.

Lucas Kauffman

06:11

@TildalWave You closed XSS as a dupe of CSRF

AviD

XSS in REST, was closed as dupe of CSRF in REST.

TildalWave

@AviD OK I'm really really tired, sorry should've got that

AviD

@TildalWave but it wasnt just you. There were 3 others. and Scott.

TildalWave

Well.. they're not the same, but I assumed whoever answered the first one killed both flies with a single swing :P

AviD

@TildalWave and hence the question... ;-)

@TildalWave naw, very different solutions. Same answerer, though - both good answers.

TildalWave

06:18

@AviD Well... yeah. You're right. But you just woke up, it's easy to be smart if your brain actually functions :P

AviD

@TildalWave oh I'm the opposite. It takes a good few hours till my brain functions.

it's only been 2.5 ....

TildalWave

I'm on my n-th coffee cup and it's not even helping any more

AviD

however, and this must be said - I am saying it everwhere: I love my daughter's school.

we were at a school meeting last night, and I am so jealous of her.

TildalWave

a school for girls?

I bet you do

AviD

I might be willing to go back to school for a few years for that...

@TildalWave ha!

well, as opposed to most schools I've seen, and every school I've been in (including university), this school is actually about - get this - education.

It's crazy, I know, but its true.

TildalWave

06:30

It's not crazy at all, actually. We're maybe also not the best audience for that statement. If we didn't like learning all the time, I don't think any of us would be here :P

AviD

no, I meant crazy that a school actually cares more about the education than the grades.

Or other arbitrary, education-less factor, like the way they dress.

And they stand behind that, too - they dont even give grades.

TildalWave

What do you mean? Students pick their own grades they think they deserved?

AviD

or rather, they give non-numerical grades, taking into account all the aspects of education, such as effort, improvement, acquiring, knowledge, skill, etc.

Terry Chia

@AviD What sort of forward thinking candyland is that????

:P

Rory McCune

@AviD oh dear... websec 101 all round :op

AviD

06:33

The principal even discussed how they relate to the different forms of intelligence.

@TerryChia I know, right??

@TildalWave no, they make it very clear - grades don't matter. Only what you've learned, or THAT you've learned at all.

and HOW you learned.

imagine - a school that is all about LEARNING!!

To be fair, this is 7th grade. by the end of 9th grade, they are getting (standard numerical) grades in some subjects, those that they have the mandatory matriculation tests in the next year.

but thats just to prepare them for the prehistoric grading structure enforced by the government.

@TerryChia oh, and its not just grades - they are willing to replace standard tests with alternate projects.

they actually refer to the science of education.

Educators! Educating! Based on science!

It blows my mind!

TildalWave

@AviD Well we had that discussion in a few schools I attended like over and over again, but it was actually often us students that defended the "grades matter" side, because you kinda need them to apply to later schools, don't you? But yeah, I've had my own fair share of hippie teachers too LOL

I'm not saying they were crap teachers tho, quite the opposite in most cases

Terry Chia

@AviD That sounds wonderful...

AviD

@TildalWave well, like I said, they do get into standard grades towards the end, because they have to. But it's not a hippie type of thing - its a scientific form of education. Even for the non-scientific subjects.

Terry Chia

Anyone wants the opportunity to rip apart some crappy crypto I wrote? :P

AviD

@TerryChia naw, I'm in too good a mood.

TildalWave

06:39

@AviD We started getting normal grades in 5th grade... and stars and bees and such stuff before that :)

AviD

@TildalWave hehe

but that's still the same thing, on a different scale.

TildalWave

@AviD Not kidding either... they might still use those, I'd have to check

AviD

or was it birds and bees?

@TildalWave thing is, they really seem to have "fixed" everything that I've been complaining about the non-education schools for so many years.

TildalWave

We'd get 5-7 different "descriptive grades", similar to what you describe. Problem is, I thought you meant that is used with later years, that's what made it seem rather odd to me. But yup, I've obviously forgot how old your kids are :|

AviD

and as far as grades go, the matriculation test scores are far above the national average, so it doesnt actually hurt that.

@TildalWave haha, yes I have kids in high school. Cue the oldie jabs....

Lucas Kauffman

06:48

I might get reversal on this security.stackexchange.com/questions/42046/…

TildalWave

@AviD My generation was still advancing schools by the old method of grade average and admission / matriculation tests, but we were the last generation, they changed to graduation tests the next year of course. We did however still do a test run for those, and I came out surprisingly good on those. Plus they actually lowered standards a bit for the real ones, since they were considered way too demanding. But that IMO says rather little of how good you'll do in high school and college later.

Lucas Kauffman

@TildalWave you're old :o

TildalWave

@LucasKauffman maybe, but I age well :P

Lucas Kauffman

@TildalWave like a wine

Terry Chia

@LucasKauffman Is it time to start upvoting the question?

Lucas Kauffman

06:51

@TerryChia NO

you evil bastard

Terry Chia

@LucasKauffman :P

TildalWave

@LucasKauffman like anything a woman of taste could easily appreciate ;)

AviD

@TildalWave and both high school and college says very little of how you'll do in life or at a job.

extremely little.

though it can effectively cause damage....

@LucasKauffman like milk.

Terry Chia

@AviD It's what I tell myself every day.

TildalWave

true, but I must say I did learn quite a lot too, even tho I was a rascal

AviD

06:53

@TerryChia its what I told my father for years... and still, when he asks about my (lack of) college degree.... :-)

@TildalWave really? I learned next to nothing.

Terry Chia

@AviD Sadly, I have to go to University. Scholarship terms and all. :(

AviD

and nothing I couldn't have taught myself better, in less time.

Terry Chia

@TildalWave My school's "Ethical Hacking" module sucked. The reverse engineering component of the lab test was literally change this jmp instruction to point to this memory address.

Lucas Kauffman

@TerryChia sadly you have to go to university?

Terry Chia

@LucasKauffman Hehe. Tbh I'd rather get a job after getting my diploma.

AviD

06:57

@TerryChia dont you have a job?

I mean, sure, it's at Red Hat, but still.

Lucas Kauffman

@TerryChia well I really liked my time in college, the only problem was I never had any money. Now I have a job, I got money, but no time to spend it :(

Terry Chia

@AviD It's an internship that is part of my diploma.

AviD

@LucasKauffman It's called VACATION.

Terry Chia

@LucasKauffman Easy, give the money to me and I'll help you spend it. :P

AviD

Or, work-life balance, if you werent at the Big4... ;-)

Lucas Kauffman

06:58

@AviD I took 7 weeks of leave in total this year, they did comment me on that

@AviD and technically I still have so much overtime left I can still take another 2 weeks

AviD

whoa. that's a lot.

Lucas Kauffman

@AviD that's pure overtime

AviD

I thought overtime was built in, expected of you?

Lucas Kauffman

@AviD yea the overtime is built in, but they either pay it out or you take it as leave

but considering the tax constructions in Belgium is cheaper to just take it in leave

so I took 134 hours of overtime in leave

Terry Chia

@AviD The Big4 can't be that bad. I mean.... @RoryAlsop used to work there and he has time to be in a freaking band.

AviD

07:00

haha

never said it was bad. I said it was different.

Which could be bad for some people, and awesome for others.

Lucas Kauffman

and I still have another 100 hours left which I will get paid out

but hey I enjoy the job so I don't care ^^

AviD

@LucasKauffman see? thats great.

speaking of which, I have to do some work.

I'll just leave this here: cracked.com/quick-fixes/…. Enjoy.

Rory McCune

@TerryChia yeah he also has a weird metabolism that means he's cool with 4 hours of sleep a night...

@LucasKauffman I always reckon that big4 is a great place to get some experience and also well paid, but unless you're shooting for partner, it's probably 3-4 years tops before you move on

Lucas Kauffman

@RoryMcCune yea indeed, currently I'd prefer getting on the CISO/CIO track rather than the partner track

I'm re-evaluating when I get to Senior III

and if I promote to manager or not

AviD

07:39

@RoryMcCune it does seem to me to be like those big law firms on tv shows...

Rory Alsop

08:59

@LucasKauffman You got overtime pay????

@AviD yup

AviD

@RoryAlsop yeah?? With all the drama, sex, and incredibly witty retorts?

Rory Alsop

@AviD almost exactly :-)

except for the witty retorts

AviD

@RoryAlsop Interesting. What is the average percentage of female coworkers...? ;-)

Rory Alsop

@AviD depends on team....we had a much higher percentage than average :-)

Lucas Kauffman

@RoryAlsop yea

@RoryAlsop all non-executives have overtime pay

AviD

09:03

@RoryAlsop hehe. Okay, I assumed it was like most places - i.e. close to none. Still not as high as the ratio in tv law firms...

Rory Alsop

@AviD For a while we were 50/50

in our team

AviD

so everybody just paired up?

Rory Alsop

hahahahahaha

AviD

or did you have one of those complicated schemes with multiple partners?

Boston Legal had some of their best episodes around that...

Rory Alsop

@AviD must have missed that series

Lucas Kauffman

09:15

The only problem I have with women is that sometimes they tend to hold grudges between eachother for a very long time

ManishEarth

Adnan

@TerryChia Dude, it's been crazy up in here.

Shitload of new projects and I can't scratch my head!!

Plus, the OSCP thing.. damn you, @Lucas

I hope I don't lose the 3rd place for this year in leagues

AviD

@RoryAlsop interestingly, the perpetrators discovered each other by strategic use of a blacklight.

Rory Alsop

@AviD hahahahahahaha

..I mean..oh, how does that work exactly :-P

As a band, we use a lot of blacklighting - you do see some interesting things in the crowd

AviD

@RoryAlsop you should try that in your next team meeting.

Rory McCune

09:49

@RoryAlsop how long did that big field last then? was pretty epic in size..

Rory Alsop

@RoryMcCune The main Scottish bit lasted till 9am

Rory McCune

@RoryAlsop I had a look at intel but it crashed the chrome tab...

Rory Alsop

This was the main activity from start to midnight

@RoryMcCune It was under major load!

Rory McCune

@RoryAlsop nice

Rory Alsop

If you check on G+ under #redemption, it gives a lot of info on the op plus major ops globally under the same tag

Rory McCune

09:56

@RoryAlsop whilst being on their server/scaling team must be interesting, it would also be a hell of a job!

@RoryAlsop cool..

Rory Alsop

good data they must get from ingress

the sitrep should be live soon

Rory McCune

@RoryAlsop yeah that's my theory on why it's free.. the costs of running it must be getting pretty big, so it'll need to be producing enough valuable info for Google to justify that...

ManishEarth

@RoryAlsop So wait. In Ingress you control portals. What are the triangles?

And how do you control portals? O_0

Rory Alsop

@ManishEarth the triangles are formed from linking portals

ManishEarth

@RoryAlsop How?

Rory Alsop

10:04

you go to portals, add resonators to them (power ups) to claim and strengthen them. You get keys to the portals. You go to another portal and link to any you have a key for, that are within range

which depends on how powered up they are

And the opposing team are trying to blow up yours and claim them themselves

So that blue field went up 30 minutes before we were intendng to start, so we had to send folks to take down theirs, as you can't make a link across an existing link or in an existing field

Was a really got fun evening

180-odd folks involved in this op across 9 countries

Our main coordinator drove and flew 2300 miles in the previous 2 weeks

moving keys

ManishEarth

@RoryAlsop wow

Rory Alsop

@ManishEarth - if you have an android phone you can play

I just look after a little bit of central scotland

ManishEarth

Mine is an old android phone

Rory Alsop

:-)

normally

@ManishEarth hmm - can work, but might not be fun

ManishEarth

Froyo

Rory Alsop

10:07

the OS will work, what's the hardware like

It runs on my wife's desire-S, but it is slow and laggy

on an S3 it is great. On an S4 or htc 1x it is awesome

ManishEarth

@RoryAlsop probably not enough

So, once you've claimed these portals, can you do anything with them?

Rory Alsop

@RoryM - need to do something to help you level up a couple of notches before you move north

@ManishEarth Add shields, turrets, etc etc and farm them

ManishEarth

Ah

Rory Alsop

which gives you more power ups, grenades etc etc

ManishEarth

farm=exp?

Rory McCune

10:08

@RoryAlsop heh well ingress will be tough in lochgoilhead 3G is pretty much non existent 2G is patchy...

Rory Alsop

yep, and items

@RoryMcCune hmmmmm - a good place to suggest a portal then, and give keys to folks elsewhere to keep it charged

Rory McCune

will be able to nominate some cool portals though where I can get coverage...

@RoryAlsop indeed!

Rory Alsop

You see that island out in the Forth with millions of links. It closes to visitors soon.

Rory McCune

@RoryAlsop we just got our mortgage approval for the new house so it's all looking quite definite now...

Rory Alsop

@RoryMcCune Yay!

and boo, obviously

Rory McCune

10:10

@RoryAlsop we were nervous about that bit as the provider are pretty picky

but apparently have the best rates going at the moment..

Terry Chia

11:20

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A: Is there any point in using 'strong' passwords?

Brute-forcing even 'strong' passwords is becoming trivial when you have the password hash, and this situation will only get worse. This is not true. A highly random password is near impossible to bruteforce given that the web application in question is using a strong hashing algorithm like ...

Dafuk, that got 12 upvotes?

Rory Alsop

@TerryChia if you don't like the 13 upvotes, you could always delete it :-)

(Blimming complaining about riding the rep-train)

Rory McCune

which apparently could be a rip off of this youtube.com/watch?v=cG4PY8BCtEQ which only @Adnan could explain...

Rory Alsop

hahahaha - it is a brilliant vid

@RoryM - if you want to level up reasonably quickly round here, making fields is your best bet. I might get some keys when I pick up the kids. Happy to drop off a couple to you if you want. We ideally want to connect Macarthur Glen, Symbiosis, Community, Almond View and Almond Park up to Dobbies;

Then Almond Park and Dobbies to Heriot Watt and Baberton :-)

Scott Pack

11:42

@AviD What do you expect me to do? You're the freaking mod!

Terry Chia

@RoryAlsop Hahahaha!

Rory McCune

@RoryAlsop ahh I didn't realise making fields provided xp (d'oh) I've got quite a large set of keys so I should be able to start joining some stuff up :) Are there restrictions on max number of links per portal?

Rory Alsop

@RoryMcCune You can only make 8 outgoing, but incoming is unlimited - I think the current record is around 300

Rory McCune

@RoryAlsop cool so fairly high limit so me making a couple shouldn't get in the way of more important links :)

Rory Alsop

If we do it in Livi, or to Bathgate, or to west edin, we're all good

only restriction is if you want to link in a field you can only do it from a vertex of that field in towards a portal within the field, not from the enclosed portal to another one

On 19th, if we plan it we could do a bit of levelling you up before/after OWASP event

Edin is a place to rapidly level up

Lucas Kauffman

11:55

@RoryAlsop I can't follow, what is this all about :p?

Rory Alsop

@LucasKauffman The future of mankind and the world.

Or a daft game between the blues and the greens

you decide

:-)

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