The DMZ

Rory Alsop

17:07

@Simon well spotted

David Freitag

17:20

Jesus, delivery between September 26 and October 16.

Rory McCune

@ScottPack hey hey hey I don't use windows phone!

David Freitag

I think the postal service from Moldova must put packages on a paddle boat to get across the atlantic...

Jeff Ferland

So yeah, the lead-acid battery I have hooked up to my solar panels was boiling this morning. That's got to be a good sign... of a shitty charge controller -.-

Adnan

@TildalWave Regular Finnish beer (AKA, reindeer piss) is 1.5e on average.

Slightly better Finnish beer is about 2.5e on average

Nice beers start at about 4-5e

Here's something to setup a baseline. Guinness: 3.5

Rory Alsop

@JeffFerland yeek

Scott Pack

17:27

I dunno, I think boiling sulfuric acid sounds like great fun.

Jeff Ferland

@RoryAlsop Well, I guess some bubbling noise might be normal in final charge state, but I still went ahead and unplugged the panels. Going to pop the top open tonight.

Adnan

@ScottPack If you're wearing an NBC suit then it's okay.

and like only for the first 10-15 minutes. After that it's alright.

TildalWave

18:11

@Adnan In the shop?? There's some Irish pubs here in the center that will serve you one pint for that money :O

ManishEarth

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A: How to programmatically post to my own wall on Facebook?

You can't, it's NP-complete. Configuring the token and REST parameters is O(n), but URL encoding them is exponential in space and time. You need to post from your actual android app or IOS app otherwise it's computationally infeasible. See here for the proof. See this snippet of the login proces...

TildalWave

regular local beers are around 2€ a bottle in the pubs... sure, you can go "fancier", but that doesn't say anything about the beer prices, more of their customers IMO

@ManishEarth LOL where's the answer gone?

Adnan

@TildalWave Yup, in the shop.

@TildalWave Normal local beers are 5 in pub.

ManishEarth

@TildalWave they just deleted it

TildalWave

@Adnan So you're saying a weekend night out might be cheaper if you just move your ass on the plane and fly here? :P

@ManishEarth Why?

ManishEarth

18:15

because NAA

TildalWave

National Archives of Australia?

I know I know :P

But it had 6 upvotes...

Simon

God damn it, I flagged a post as a duplicate thinking the dude reposted the same question but it's different.

Adnan

@TildalWave Well, here's how a night in a pub here is. 20:00 drinking at eating with friends at home until 00:00. Then go to a pub for one beer, then at 01:00 to a club.

Another week, repeat.

TildalWave

That brings a whole new meaning to "social security" :)

Adnan

18:36

@TildalWave Wanna hear the horrific part?

Clubs & pubs all close at 04:00

Lucas Kauffman

@Adnan 4 am?

@Adnan you should visit the UK

Adnan

@LucasKauffman Why?

Lucas Kauffman

@Adnan they close at 2300

Adnan

@LucasKauffman Clubs?

I highly doubt it

Rory McCune

AFAICR pubs in england are 23:00 (later here) clubs are later (IIRC 3 or 4) although there are some 24 hour places...

then there's lock-ins

which are unofficial but do happen

Adnan

18:42

@RoryMcCune Yup, I heard 03:00 as well

Rory McCune

viewlondon.co.uk/pubsandbars/…

24 hour pubs in London...

David Freitag

Does anyone know of a good recursive dif utility for windows?

Adnan

@DavidFreitag I think WinMerge can do that

David Freitag

@Adnan Alrighty I'll give it a try. Thanks

Adnan

@DavidFreitag Something like this?

David Freitag

18:46

@Adnan Yep

TildalWave

@Adnan Well if you didn't pick anyone up by then,... ;))

Adnan

@DavidFreitag Never used this feature. But I can testify that WinMerge is a great tool. I always use it instead of SVN merge

Thomas Pornin

@DavidFreitag Well, diff. You may want to install cygwin and you will get some workable imitations of the Linux tools.

Or Gnuwin32: gnuwin32.sourceforge.net

David Freitag

@ThomasPornin Yeah, i have cygwin, but I'm too lazy for cli right now

Adnan

@TildalWave I'm a decent man now. I don't engage in such activities anymore.

Thomas Pornin

18:49

Gnuwin32 provides packages for tools from the Linux world, for Windows. It is "cleaner" than Cygwin.

TildalWave

@DavidFreitag There's also some MS Sync Tool, if I got the name correctly. I did use it on occasion and it's not THAT bad. Seems pretty basic at first glance tho, so you might wanna dig deeper for settings.

David Freitag

@TildalWave If WinMerge doesn't work I'll take a look

TildalWave

Worth a shot, but I'm not promising it still works as it used to. It might have gotten a Win8 interface by now LOL

Adnan

@DavidFreitag It will. I'm just trying the feature out. You can even write click and check actual differences. Quite neat.

David Freitag

@TildalWave Ick metro :x

TildalWave

18:51

@Adnan Sure you don't.

David Freitag

@Adnan Now all i have to do is dig the tape drives out of the attic and find which one has the files i need on them...

It's funny how closing Visual Studio i suddenly have 1.23GB more ram.

Adnan

@DavidFreitag When I was younger, I used to use a software that I cannot, for the life of me, remember its name. You just insert the floppy disk/cd/whatever, and with one click you create an archive of it (all the files and directories) and then store the media's label.

Whenever I needed something, I search for it using the application.

It tells you which disk and reminds you where you put it.

Ah, I used to like it a lot. It helped me organize all my porn stash.

David Freitag

@Adnan Well, we never ever really have to go into the old server backups, but i am redesigning all of the boards we use and the files are long since gone

Adnan

@DavidFreitag Just get the intern to do it.

David Freitag

@Adnan There are no interns at a 22 person company, there's just "The New Guy" and the last new guy we had has been here for a year and works in a completely different department

David Freitag

19:18

So, if there's anything i have learned in the past month; It's don't outsource software to a company in India who will do the work for dirt cheap. Oh and WinMerge worked perfectly - thanks @Adnan.

Adnan

@DavidFreitag You're more than welcome

CodesInChaos

@ThomasPornin A factor 10 between native and managed code for RSA sounds a bit large. I would have guessed a factor 3 or so.

Rory Alsop

@RoryMcCune In Edinburgh there is only 1 hour when you can't get into a pub (unless you are already in due to a lockin) - but that hour is covered during the festival

@Adnan heh - on 1.44 floppies :-)

CodesInChaos

a 64x64->128 mult is more expensive than a 32x32->64 mult, and this seems to be an area where the .net JIT doesn't suck too much

Adnan

@RoryAlsop That's mean :(

It's not 1.44" and it's not that floppy!

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@Simon Tell me about the bridges again..

Thomas Pornin

19:27

@CodesInChaos A factor of 3 is typical for heavy CPU work between .NET/Java and optimized C.

Then there is the extra boost with the larger multiplications.

I don't have numbers ready right here, but I observed the factor of about 3 for 32-bit code, and a "quite larger" factor for 64-bit code.

Simon

19:48

@Adnan They're very high in the sky.

@ThomasPornin I watched your SSL presentation, it's crazy how much you can tell of a server's SSL configuration simply by crawling it and testing some stuff.

Thomas Pornin

@Simon Yeah, you have to know how to talk to it.

My favourite is about obtaining the current time (as known from the machine). This is not a very widely known feature of SSL, and yet it is quite convenient.

TildalWave

Sep 1 at 16:27, by Xander

@Adnan Madison County. Golden Gate. Brooklyn. Jeff.

Simon

@ThomasPornin Yeah and know how behind the clock actually is.

The dudes asking questions at the end were kind of annoying.

Some were trying to be funny.

"If Microsoft releases software with bugs, I think you should be ok if you release yours like this"

Your point was that you needed to comment it, not that it had some bugs.

Otherwise I don't think it would have been running for 29.9 days.

Thomas Pornin

@Simon Actually it had a lot of bugs. It took me a while to remove them all. The 30-days run was the last, but there was about two months of test runs before that.

Simon

@ThomasPornin !!!! You made us all believe that it was perfect on the first try.

Also the server with the certificate valid until 3xxx, that was funny.

Thomas Pornin

19:56

@Simon It was perfect. Then I had to modify it so that it could process practical data.

Simon

I see.

Is your next step to automate an attack? I'm sure the VPS hoster would allow that too.

Thomas Pornin

@Simon My next step should be to write some written report and put it on a Web page. Then I may run my code on a regular basis and do monthly stats.

Simon

That'd be nerdy and awesome.

Then, if the stats show that the security of servers has increased overtime, you can claim that it is due to your actions.

Or I should say the quantity of properly secured servers

Adnan

20:21

@TildalWave hehehehe

TildalWave

And you thought I don't see this chat from space, huh? :P

Adnan

@TildalWave Now I believe.

Just like @Lucas made me believe in The VMWare

Not trying to offend anybody here, but I find very funny when a Christian converts to Islam or a Muslim converts to Christianity.

Actually, I find it funny when anybody converts from one religion to another.

Griffin

@Adnan I find most religions to be funny.

Lucas Kauffman

except budhism

Griffin

Anyone here ever build a diskless beowulf cluster.

Lucas Kauffman

20:33

I like budhists

Griffin

@LucasKauffman You know me.....

Adnan

@LucasKauffman sigh

Lucas Kauffman

@Griffin we did it with a PXE server once in memory

TildalWave

@Adnan I'd be more here if I could, but it's not actually the space moderating business that takes so much time from me, if you believe it, but that I'm in a middle of some ridiculously stretched project with no end in sight :(

Adnan

It's like "Oh, we found so many contradicting things in this religion. It doesn't make sense and it must be false. I'll move to the other one".

Griffin

20:34

@LucasKauffman I don't think that counts....

@Adnan ..... See Atheists / Agnostics / People like me who are agnostics who lean hard to the Atheists side have just run out of religions to go through.

Adnan

I've heard a Christian man once say that he converted to Islam because of Christianity's voodoo-like beliefs and ridiculous liturgy.

Griffin

@LucasKauffman This one is like 9 physical nodes and stuff.

Lucas Kauffman

@Griffin so :p?

you just boot them in a live disk

which you run from the PXE

Adnan

Ridiculous!

Griffin

@LucasKauffman No can't... diskless CD include.

Lucas Kauffman

20:37

@Griffin ISO on pendrive

Griffin

@LucasKauffman Yea ... thought of that and solid states... not allowed either

Lucas Kauffman

so where do you store the OS exactly?

Griffin

Lol the master. It's the only one allowed to have OS.

Lucas Kauffman

@Griffin PXE from the master :P?

anyway off to bed guys

nn

Griffin

@LucasKauffman Will it say hi and make nice nice with the other nodes that don't have it?

Lucas Kauffman

20:40

@Griffin basically what your other machines will do is call for a dhcp server when they boot

the master answers and says: here is an OS image

your nodes will download that image

now the fun part is because you use DHCP all nodes have an IP address

Griffin

@LucasKauffman But they can't download it anywhere have have no harddrives / storage anything

Lucas Kauffman

memory...

PXE works in memory :p

Griffin

..... How tiny is it tho....

Lucas Kauffman

a PXE server?

the size of your OS + 1 MB or so?

Griffin

..... Okay. I'll check it out. I'll probably ask you more tomorrow. But for now you sleep.

Lucas Kauffman

20:42

alright

see you tomorrow

Griffin

Bye!

Adnan

Yup, me too. Nightie night..

Jeff Ferland

21:14

spaz

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