Hinduism

@AkshayS I can't comment on this. It's upto Lord Vishnu. Just out of curiosity is there any expected year written in some puran?

I want many things which are up to outside forces :D

4:15 AM

@Zanna Just for sharing knowledge and not to offend anyone. Yesterday I read that India's export and GDP was way too big than England which was the most prosperous nation in Europe back then. England wanted to extend their export and suppress India's. Also Indians had higher living standards and Britishers which might have made them little uneasy.

So, I guess that was the feeling of getting everything you can ever have and letting no other nation to have better economy and living standards than their own.

hey when was that?

1800s

before company rule took over

I have read about this balance of exports thing (I mean as a generic economic concept) but I can never get my head round it for more than a day after reading the book

I can't really empathise with the desire for prestige, you know? I don't feel that. But maybe that had a role

there is a classic "How Europe Underdeveloped Africa" by Walter Rodney

India and China are very rich in resources which was the key factor in export of things like cotton.

@Zanna May be because we see the world through our perspective

He describes how the slavery era gave way to the colonial era which enriched the metropoles much more

@Kulfy sure, but I wonder about the underlying mechanisms, the whole political economy of a country... I think there have to be some more basic drivers

4:23 AM

@Kulfy India was also rich in Golds and Diamonds.

@Kulfy notice that resource wealth correlates negatively with economic prosperity globally, due to exploitation

I even read one thing. Once someone (I don't remember the name) said that North Indians and South Indians are very much different, they may have differences in them but what unites then is the hatred for British.

that's something discussed brilliantly in Eduardo Galeano's Open Veins of Latin America

@Kulfy :D nothing unites people like a common enemy

I guess that's one reason why extraterrestrial attacks are a popular fantasy

@TheLittleNaruto Exactly. I guess in present day Gujarat?

I don't know if that's just a rumour or what. I read that Jinnah wanted to have a new nation Pakistan just because of Karachi harbour.

I repeat I don't want to offend anyone. Just sharing what I've read so far.

Q: Taking the name of lord rama "Jai shri Ram"

what are you reading?

Hinduism bot

4:29 AM

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By saying "Jai shri Ram" Why I feel so strong like I can do any thing in this world..?

I can't speak for others, but you certainly won't offend me, so no need to worry

@Zanna Right now nothing. These were some excerpts from Wiki, books or blogs. I usually don't remember them.

oh I see. There are many great articles, blogs, papers etc online

all too easy to read something great only to promptly forget where hahaha

Indeed.

There were many things happened in the history. But what bothers me the most is the budget for education during British era and stereotyping Indians as snake charmer (really??)

tell me about this budget for education

4:40 AM

India used to have gurukuls back then. These gurukuls used to run on donation by government/princes of territory. These gurukuls provided education about Vedas, purans and shashtra vidhya (art of using various weapons)

Hindus used to attend gurukuls, Muslims attended madarsas. During British rule the donation start declining. British started schools.

what I meant about doubting the desire for prestige being the main driver is that the colonial worldview necessarily dehumanises the colonised. I mean it would be impossible to consider oneself to have the right to take all the resources someone else is using if one considered them to be a fellow being, I think? But white supremacy and orientalism (as a system of knowledge, with an oppressive purpose) understood as an invention of the slavery/colonial project and not vice versa.

But still they spend less than half of the budget of New York City (might have heard many times). There was lack of awareness for education and they could've done more to spread awareness.

Literacy rate increased very (literally very) slowly.

Mountbatten's wife had plan to improve the situation but then Indian British Empire was dissolved.

colonisation was spun as a civilizing project

@Zanna Human is blind in front of greeds

@Kulfy Nope, at present its South India.

4:48 AM

@Kulfy what's amazing to me is the capacity we have to persuade ourselves that our greed is in the common interest :)

@Zanna Using uncivilized techniques??

@Kulfy oh it's hard for you to believe? We told ourselves that we were spreading health, wealth, education, civilization. Hard to believe

but what's even harder to swallow is that we are still now telling ourselves this

you pick 10 random British people off the street and ask them

@TheLittleNaruto I thought that's in Surat. Need to brush up geography.

nobody ever teaches us about what we really did

@Zanna It's been the legacy that things are different on paper than the actual.

4:51 AM

@Kulfy We are talking about Golds and Diamond not their mines, Are we not ?

@Kulfy different on paper here?

@Kulfy true that.

@TheLittleNaruto So I confused myself. Lol

@Zanna Yeah. All have their own version of History. Since you are in India. Pick any 2 random books about British India and start reading. You'll know the difference.

you mean they will be different from each other?

I mean context would be different in books published in UK and books published in India

4:58 AM

British were very smart when they ruled India. They understood the diversity and took the advantage of it. They slowly started dividing people. For example see how unfortunate it is that people of Tamilnadu happily study English but not Hindi and they hate this language itself. Hindi was supposed to be introduced as common language for India. This is just an example. Things like these are not one day job, it took its own time. And over the time it happened.

@TheLittleNaruto I'll argue for this.

@Kulfy Sure

Also see the division of the country when it happened. It was not sudden , the seed was already put by British long back.

A little fire was that only needed which they did happily

Tamilians thought that why should we study their language, why can't they study ours. And same goes for North Indians. On the other hand English was new both for North and South which could improve communication between the two areas. Actually English was introduced as official language until 1965 but then they dropped the plan. I agree with them too. If I consider my first statement and Hindi was to be "enforced" to them it was merely language chauvinism which might cause further riots.

@Kulfy haha I knew it you would say that.

@Kulfy :)

5:04 AM

But did you think why Tamilian ever would think that ?

Yeah it's not easy for me to explain because it's not one day job.

@TheLittleNaruto Learning a new language is always hard. I know I was trying to learn French and sometimes I get frustrated due to pronunciation. Like Comment in English is not same as in French. :/

Why would some language which is part of India will cause riots but not a foreign language ?

@Kulfy So you mean learning English would be easy for any beginner than Hindi ?

Or any other language

Like we learned English similarly we can learn Hindi

It's not a big deal.

Like I said the seed was already put by those British.

@TheLittleNaruto Because that foreign language is to be "enforced" on both sides, i.e. North and South. While Hindi is the mother tongue of most people in North, so no problem for northerners but huge problem for southerners.

@Kulfy omg

@TheLittleNaruto No. I didn't mean that

5:09 AM

Read that again buddy

Ok leave India look at China or Germany.. Are they not developed countries ?

They prefer only their native common languages across the country

In Guangdong they speak Cantonese

Here English is taught from Kindergarten. May not cause a problem for newer generation but may be a problem for elder generation.

You're right thats what they wanted and they did it successfully.

@TheLittleNaruto Language has nothing to do with development I believe.

OMG..... social topic!!!

5:12 AM

@Kulfy language can be a barrier when working in a company where people won't understand the language you speak in.

@TheLittleNaruto Germany's area is small. Language differences occurs when areas are large and apart. China's habitable area is small as compared to it's total area. Still Tibetan language is different from China's official language

@AkshayS ok leave it lol

I would have Europe itself, not Germany, be an analogue for India. In Europe you have a whole bunch of little language groups that have squabbled over their little patches killing each other for centuries. Language drawing bloody borders. In India there is something else :)

@Kulfy Have you ever met a person in Tibet, they are forced to learn Chinese else they have to come to India for jobs.

@TheLittleNaruto Some who hate BJP from TN actually triggering a fire between Hindi v Tamil. But ordinary people do not get involved in this..... They stick to own language of Tamil and stay silent....etc... Anti BJPs are too much here causing riots

5:16 AM

@AkshayS You're right.

@TheLittleNaruto I didn't know about that. Thank you for that :)

Nowdays @TheLittleNaruto behavior is like baby... :O

@AkshayS I even heard that someone's demanding for Dravid Nadu?

@Kulfy Yes... Seperate state !!!!

@Kulfy See We on a site can put n number of logic because We are well educated. But ground reality is different.

5:18 AM

@TheLittleNaruto You look little annoyed. Are you? If yes, we can just leave the topic

@Kulfy Naah I am fine. :)

@AkshayS They only see their political benefit

@Kulfy he is like baby

@Kulfy Most of them are DMK

@AkshayS lol

OMG.... one of TRIDEV here

5:20 AM

@TheLittleNaruto Indeed. Actually you see that from your perspective and I see that from my perspective. So different opinions are natural. But sometimes I like these healthy debates. I get to know what other people think. What's their perspective?

@Kulfy I dont like debates because Truth is different from our thinking always especially in todays westernized world. We dont perceive things as they are. We form view about it. So I dont like debates

@Kulfy Thats good learning other perspective.

@AkshayS Har Har Mahadev

@TheLittleNaruto :))

@TheLittleNaruto Am i not true here?

@AkshayS Aadi na ant hai uska

@AkshayS Sir. You're never wrong. :D

@Kulfy He doesn't understand Hindi

5:23 AM

@Kulfy Only few. Entire South India is not Dravidanadu and not all South Indians are Dravidians. Telangana (especiallyHyderabad) speaks Urdu/Hindi fluently like Telugu. North Karnataka districts which were once part of Hyderabad state too also has no problem with Hindi. Most of the kannadigas, Telugus and Malayalis also don't have problem with Sanskrit and these three languages contain more Sanskrit words than Hindi.

@AkshayS He meant "He(Lord Shiva) has neither start nor end"

@Kulfy HAHA

@AkshayS Indeed. But as I said healthy debates. I too refrain from purely opinion based debates which may cause turmoil. lol

Oh you got it :o

@TheLittleNaruto haha

5:24 AM

@TheLittleNaruto Akshay told me earlier that he can't speak fluently but can read

Oh nice

@TheDestroyer I dont like what others think about anything. Truth will remain truth always. Tamil language given by Kartikeya, Muruga. So "KANDHANUKU HARO HARA"

kills @AkshayS for not telling me that

@TheLittleNaruto merging with Parabrahman :P

XD

5:26 AM

@TheDestroyer I guess because they are part of Indo-European family but on the other hand Tamil is from Davidian family.

@AkshayS I think It might not be Tamil per se. Some language that later developed into multiple languages like Telugu, Tamil, Kannada and Malayalam. If you observe Kannada and Telugu (of Rayalaseema), there is so much of similarity. Languages evolve with time.

@AkshayS Karthikeya taught the local language to Agastya within a days it seems.

@TheDestroyer Same is with Tamil and Malayalam, isn't it ?

@TheDestroyer That's fine but Agastya has given strong evidences in his texsts on how Tamil language was given by Muruga to him !!!!

@TheLittleNaruto Yes similarities r der

9 planets are our 9 NADIS.....

@TheLittleNaruto Yes. At time of Shankara, Malayalam was not fully developed. Now, Malayalam has more Sanskrit words in its daily usage.

@TheLittleNaruto I suspect @TheDestroyer has already realized his Rudra nature :P

5:29 AM

@AkshayS Haha may be

@AkshayS Haha. I'm not realized, O Rudra. I would be in Himalayas if i realized my true nature.

@TheDestroyer True However i feel difficulty while understanding Malayalam, their accent is a bit off, like they will use "L" sound a lot and We will miss understanding many words

@TheDestroyer Himalaya or whole planet is within you, dig it instead.

@TheDestroyer Himalayas is our Sahasra.. you mean that?

@TheLittleNaruto If you are habituated to South Indian pronunciation of Sanskrit words, you can easily understand those words. But since i can understand Tamil, it is easy for me to even understand some Malayalam too.

@AkshayS haha. Both.

@TheLittleNaruto Himalaya Sahasra, Kashi - Ajna Chakra Chidambaram - Heart..

I will explain you how panchabootha tattva works. Each pancha bootha has its own characterstics.... and is spread out in our body..

SURYA NADI, Fire. Chandra Nadi cool... water and. darkness, Agni, center, etc..

Humans breath runs (if we divide 24hrs into 4 parts), 1 part only Surya Nadi functions. Rest is Chandra Nadi

Thats why laziness, lethargicness, TAMAS gunas associated with Chandra Nadi influence a lot in humans today

5:34 AM

@AkshayS I think Rakesh provided this info once. It was from Kashmiri Shaivism facebook page.

Pineal GLAND is Moon.... SURYA is Pitutary Gland

@TheDestroyer Its there in Agastya 12000

@AkshayS Ida and Pingala Nadis.

For Varanasi city, Varuna and Assi rivers. Sushumna is Ganga metaphorically.

@TheDestroyer very good.

Yes. When your Ida Nadi functions, Pineal gland works. Pingala Nadi = pitutary gland.... Kevala Sushumna = breath running through two nostrils.

ACTUAL PURNA, SUSHUMNA NADI, BRAHMA NADI = breathlessness.

Your destiny is functioning through breathing. When you attain breathlessness, NAVA GRAHAS wont work there

There are also Pancha Sabha Temples in Tamilnadu.

Pancha Sabhai

Pancha Sabhai Sthalangal refers to the temples of Lord Nataraja, a form of Lord Shiva where he performed the Cosmic Dance. Pancha indicates Five, Sabhai means hall and Stala means place. All these temples are located in Tamil Nadu, India. == Nataraja == A few temples in Tamil Nadu are closely associated with Nataraja and have their own myths of dance along with the halls specific to their version of dance. The seven dances of Lord Siva can be recognised as the varied facts of single theme viz. the Beauty and Bliss of the Absolute. Herein lies the aesthetic fact of the dance. The seven dances...

5:38 AM

@TheLittleNaruto Ajna chakra has so many namesL Chidambaram, Kailash, Vaikuntha, Goloka, etc........sadhuragiri, thiruvannamalai

They too have Yogic meanings.

@TheDestroyer need to visit this!!

@TheDestroyer Thanks for sharing that.

@AkshayS Ajna chakra is most important chakra.

@AkshayS yeah let's visit together with @TheDestroyer

@AkshayS Kailash is Sahasra i think, not Ajna Chakra. Kashi is Ajna chakra. Symbolism of Kashi is mentioned in Jabala Upanishad.

Jabala Upanishad

The Jabala Upanishad (Sanskrit: जाबाल उपनिषत्, IAST: Jabala Upaniṣad), also called Jabalopanisad, is a minor Upanishad of Hinduism. The Sanskrit text is one of the 20 Sannyasa Upanishads, and is attached to the Shukla Yajurveda. The Jabala Upanishad is an ancient text, composed before 300 CE. It is among the oldest Upanishads that discuss the subject of renouncing the worldly life for the exclusive pursuit of spiritual knowledge. The text discusses the city of Banaras in spiritual terms, as Avimuktam. It describes how that city became holy, then adds that the holiest place to revere is one within...

It also mentions Satarudriya as way for Moksha. Satarudriya from Yajurveda is Sri Rudram.

Rudram is present in all 101 Sakhas of Yajurveda. Hence name Satarudriya.

@TheDestroyer I was taught Sahasra is abode of Parabrahman...

5:44 AM

@AkshayS Yes. But texts mention it as Kailasa.

@AkshayS Just out of curiosity how old are you?

@AkshayS Did you visit Chidambaram?

8:04 AM

@Kulfy 23

@TheDestroyer no.....

@AkshayS Really? You know many things. I guessed you would be 35+

@Kulfy yes.... mcom final year

It's his Guru blessings....

@Kulfy oh... just 23

Born 96

@TheLittleNaruto bosss... u too r genius

I'm 21 and I know nothing. damn!!! :/

@TheLittleNaruto What about you?

8:07 AM

@AkshayS I am not genius, I am just a learner like baby be'el has "learn command" I have got one too.

@Kulfy 30

@TheLittleNaruto I guessed 25-30. So I was kinda right.

~~Hey don't give me taht awkward silence~~ ok never mind

@Kulfy Hmmmm

@Kulfy he is 3 +0 old baby

@AkshayS lol

@TheLittleNaruto me too learner. Only

8:10 AM

@Zanna just for clarity, in earlier discussion when I said "British" I meant the one who ruled us in old time not the current people. So please don't take it otherwise. I thought I should clarify lol

@Kulfy everyone can know. ... it's just you need to be pure in words and mind

Rest ll happen automatically

@AkshayS You're already merged with parabramha

@AkshayS I'll add you need to be curious too.

@Kulfy agree

@Kulfy sure.. I am talking about qualification you need. Just purity. Not even single bad word you should use at any cost.. this controls tongue and mind should be pure. When these 2 r fullfilled, you go to next level in knowledge of life

In TN even if one makes mistakes we scold him saying "ada rama".....this is how I was bought up... we tell mahesvara if someone makes silly mistakes..... so we somehow tell nama of Isvara differently. ...

Nama of Isvara can purify you!

@TheLittleNaruto haha... then I still have "I" sense attached with me in small percentage. ...slowly that shouls go off

8:19 AM

Human just needs words to express. When you have so much knowledge to share and keen to gain more, there is no room for bad words.

@AkshayS But here in north cuss words are used :(

@Kulfy but today people when are mingled in society in office, dusts only get accumulated in our mind

Yoga helps you to stay yourself even among society while you moving

@AkshayS Indeed. They don't have time for themselves.

@Kulfy :(( self discipline is must

> Śivaḥ śaktyāryukto yadi bhavati śaktaḥ prabhavituṁ ||

@TheLittleNaruto ohooo

8:23 AM

"When you surrender to Guru by your mind, deeds and actions, He expunges you as what you think you are and establishes you as what He experienced the almighty as.

There are no more swinging pains and pleasures but eternal bliss always. An experiential supreme Self Empowerment for you is the ultimate Grace of Guru who lets your dormant conscious out of ilusion and ignorance, the Suptha Chetana when united and illumined with the sakthi, the divine mother energy inherent within you resulting in manifestation of your SELF as the Supreme Conscious, the Shiva"

@AkshayS We are forgetting that these days.

@Kulfy because of wrong idea from education today on freedom....survival instinct. For survival if we do anything is right is ideology.

@Kulfy Because for everything now we look for logic

@TheLittleNaruto true..

@TheLittleNaruto My 2-3 friends are purely naastik. I respect their opinion and their choices. But I get angry when they question my beliefs and ask me for explanations. Like why we fold our hands in front of murti?

8:28 AM

@Kulfy I cut such friendships long back.... gradually without even hurting them...

Like I say in Hindi: Hum "open-minded" hone ke chakkar me apne sanskar bhulte jaa rahe hai (We are ignoring moral values just to become open-minded)

@AkshayS This is difficult for me. If I do, my tone will automatically become rude.

@Kulfy that's called bhakti.... see they fold their hands for corporate who is exploiting them and we fold for one from whom we emerged. ...that's the difference

@Kulfy depending upon their character you should decide whether you should have such friends or not. If they such questions for mocking ignore. For learning means fine.

@AkshayS But then they'll argue that we fold hands in front of humans not in front of stone. These are just never ending arguments.

@Kulfy they're deluded by Maya. So leave :P

@Kulfy tell them even human body is useless... it just comprises of cells and nothing else.... it's also nothing. ...

@AkshayS Indeed.

But as I said these are just never ending arguments. So, I usually try to ignore or avoid.

8:33 AM

Entire cosmos and panchabootha have Pranan. Stones have Pranan life. That's why some stones stands tall and never falls.....

And in the end, Ishvar to kan kan mein virajmaan hai

@Kulfy meaning?

God resides in every single particle

@Kulfy yeah that's why his name Sarabesvar. Sarvam + isvar

Sarvamum isvar jagad isvara

Yeah

8:43 AM

@Kulfy Pranan itself is isvara shakti... Vital air Prana his isvara

That's why we consider every thing as holy thing?

@Kulfy give them kulfy to eat and take a separate way to walk

@Kulfy yes......geographically also Bharata is center of earth from which everything runs.. because vastu shastra everything is for Bharata varsha. Because your body structure is similar to that....

@Kulfy yes when we beath in and breathe out, we make sound of ham and sa which represents Shiva and Shakti.

@TheLittleNaruto lol

8:49 AM

@AkshayS Sadhu! Sadhu!

@AkshayS Are there some similarities between Hindu mythology and Greek mythology? I heard that their mythology is also similar.

@TheLittleNaruto I see.

@Kulfy My colleagues make fun of me by calling me Baba or something because they see me completely involved in Hinduism even if I am well educated. But... I, Sir, care less.

@TheLittleNaruto Be involved in which you are interested.

@TheLittleNaruto north is where shiva seated. But when you go to france it will not work out

@TheLittleNaruto care less of them. ...

@Kulfy I don't look at it...

@Kulfy btw I was not this much religious 2 years back... If you were talking with me 2 years I would have made fun of things in Hinduism....

8:54 AM

@TheLittleNaruto it's not religion. Its eternal Dharma... of life...

@AkshayS Hmmm But as per KS philosophy Shiva is everywhere.

@AkshayS of course

@AkshayS I was talking in a sense which Hindus of Today's generation can understand :D

@TheLittleNaruto man that's fine. ...I am talking about specific structure vastu.... north is where mount Kailash is located... same way body's north is where Shiva has his abode. South is Yama... so this is how basically it is structured in this Earth.... thats why west Country people cannot understand this....

@TheLittleNaruto oh fyn fyn

@AkshayS yeah I didn't deny that.

@TheLittleNaruto oh no worries. Actually I speak of those people as "us" because I don't want to refuse responsibility for that. I've benefited from the atrocities of the British Empire my whole life. Right now I benefit even more. From the exchange rate, from being able to speak my own language in a foreign country and be understood... in countless significant ways.

@Zanna :-)

9:00 AM

@Zanna @Zanna you are not British citizen neither am Indian citizen.... we all are humans and at reality we are all Atma... so don't feel for British atrocities

@Kulfy For you: Dharmo rakshati rakshitaha - Dharma protects those who protect it

Source: Copied from Rickross's profile

@AkshayS :) I am not a fan of the nation state concept, but that's probably because of the form nationalism takes in my country. In its favour, nationalism was a great driver of independence movements everywhere

Thanks <3

@Zanna for?

For accepting me

For all the ways you are generous :D

@Zanna what am speaking are absolute truths.... nothing more than it

9:09 AM

@AkshayS but nobody compels you to speak them, yet you do so

That's an effort made for others

@Zanna that's nature of me :)

:)

10:55 AM

@TheLittleNaruto Original Source: Manu Smriti.

11:06 AM

@NogShine Hmmmmm

baby Now is the time to start your duty, Okay ?

@TheLittleNaruto No

baby Do you think you're very smart ?

@TheLittleNaruto Not at all

baby Then take my order

@TheLittleNaruto That didn't make much sense. Use the help command to learn more.

11:08 AM

baby I am leaving you here now for your today's duty, okay ?

@TheLittleNaruto By all means

Hmm good baby

11:23 AM

baby hello good evening

@AkshayS That didn't make much sense. Maybe you meant: help, tell

baby do you know to wish?

@AkshayS Nuh-uh

:((

baby hello

11:32 AM

@NogShine That didn't make much sense. Maybe you meant: help, tell

baby imissyou

@NogShine That didn't make much sense. Use the help command to learn more.

baby list commands

baby learn imissyou " me too"

@AkshayS Command imissyou learned

11:42 AM

baby imissyou

@AkshayS me too

baby do you like @NogShine?

@AkshayS Indubitably

@AkshayS baby forgot what @KrishnaShweta taught to him. Bad baby

You need some slaps

@NogShine yes baby has poor memory

baby do you have good memory?

11:45 AM

@AkshayS Of course not

@BabyBe'el @Nog :P

Haha

baby forget imissyou

@NogShine You are not authorized to delete the command imissyou

baby iMissyou

@NogShine me too

11:47 AM

May 20 at 17:14, by Baby Be'el

@KrishnaShweta I miss you too dear

This is better ^

Warm up game now telling India result in world cup?

It's just Warm up

baby will India win World Cup?

@AkshayS Not a chance

@NogShine seaming pitch.... struggle

@BabyBe'el OMG

@NogShine probably tournament pitxh will be flatter. So Indians can score

11:50 AM

@AkshayS I won't ask him about this.

@NogShine baby correctly predicted Ind v Aus home series

8 mins ago, by Baby Be'el

@AkshayS Of course not

@NogShine that's memory man

12:10 PM

baby Can you predict future ?

@TheLittleNaruto Not a chance

Hmmm

12:27 PM

baby can you know future?

@AkshayS Not at all

@BabyBe'el :((

baby learn Yoga "union of Atma and Paramatma"

@AkshayS Command yoga learned

baby Yoga

@AkshayS union of Atma and Paramatma

12:58 PM

@TheLittleNaruto Indeed.

Dharm~Eva Hato Hanti, Dharmo Rakshati Rakshitah! Tasma~Dharmo Na Hantvyo, Ma No Dharmo Hato~Vadhit!!

1:31 PM

Am reminded of 2003 WC wrt 2019. 2002 NZ series defeat warm up matches lost in 2003 WC but we went till finals in 2003. Similar panning results

2:15 PM

@Kulfy Attaboy :-)

@AkshayS So you think we will reach finals ? This time I feel England is good contender for the championship

3:51 PM

@TheLittleNaruto England can fumble to spin bowling.... England mostly have hitters...quality spinners can knock England out any day. ..

@AkshayS Its not the case today. Look at their team man. Did you watch their latest match against Australia in which they scored 400+ runs ?

Their team is good now..

4:07 PM

@TheLittleNaruto No ji... ENG are good especially against one dimensional bowling attack. If there's variety they can fumble anyday. India can defeat England if India can bat well

This WC if India bats well India will win WC.

Whichever team win WC. One thing is guaranteed. One team would still make world remember how they lifted CT (hypothetically)

@Kulfy haha

I just saw a clip which VK was praising CT winners in English. When Sarfraz was asked, he said, "I have the same feeling". xD