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19:00
@DavidFreitag I feel like I've been absent lately. Making up for lost time.
@Iszi No, some old lady flashed her milk bags at me. Bags because they aren't jugs anymore.
Seriously though, yeah... I'll try to back off.
@Iszi Thanks.
Her things went from being American to Canadian
We love our milk bags, leave them alone.
19:01
I totally forgot about that
I just lost my lunch thinking about it wtf
I was like WTF...?
@DavidFreitag I totally forgot about how is it weird to the rest of the world.
@MarkBuffalo You better find it before a coworker does
Thanks a lot! Lol
19:01
@MarkBuffalo Huh? I thought north was the positive direction?
@Simon I can barely find those here any more
Then again, we are talking about Canada.
@Iszi Not when it means going to Canada
@Iszi Canadians have milk bags in the store. We sell jugs.
She went to Canada in the worst way
@MarkBuffalo Ah, got it now.
19:02
Also, I don't know what you people are talking about, my milk comes from a cow, not a bag.
@MarkBuffalo What the hell? Why would you do that?
@Simon Is that liquid milk or dehydrated milk powder?
@Simon No. Hell no. Not buyin' it.
@Simon that is the weirdest fucking thing
19:03
@DavidFreitag pls liquid
who the fuck puts liquids in a bag
2
@Ohnana Soda distributors? But usually the bags are in a protective box.
@Iszi soda comes in bottles and cans
@Simon I think they're hard to be found here because EU is trying to make us use bags less
@Ohnana Ever bought a goldfish? Well I bought two thousand one time. That was a BIG bag.
19:04
@Ohnana Not when it's feeding a fountain.
In packaging, a bag-in-box or BiB is a type of container for the storage and transportation of liquids. It consists of a strong bladder (or plastic bag), usually made of several layers of metallised film or other plastics, seated inside a corrugated fiberboard box. The bag is supplied to the 'filler' as an empty pre made bag. The 'filler' then generally removes the tap, fills the bag and replaces the tap. The bags are available as singles for semi-automatic machines or as web bags, where the bags have perforations between each one. These are used on automated filling systems where the bag i...
of course, the box is just as well plasticized
ohhh soda syrup
@TildalWave Funny how the mayor of Montréal said he wants to get rid of plastic bags by 2018 yet I'm pretty sure those are not going anywhere.
@Simon Just make the bags out of paper
@Ohnana I recently bought liquid soap from a bag.
19:05
@Ohnana Qualifies as liquid, yah?
@DavidFreitag Ya that's the plan.
@Iszi yeah, but that's not really for home use, and the box is stiff
@Simon ?!
@Ohnana Like some other things, eh?
@Simon truth is, those milk bags were much better because you'd not be opening them outside unless you're a proper knob... it takes a bit of preparing and then you simply discard the bag in the recycling bin
what the hell is wrong with canada, where am I supposed to emigrate now
but that's too complicated for regulators to comprehend
More liquid in a bag ^
@Iszi hush!
19:06
@Simon I also have a bag full of liquid.
@DavidFreitag me2
@Iszi huehuehue
@TildalWave I don't think those here can be recycled.
@Simon we just collect plastics separately
@TildalWave Yeah and we all know you want to be an improper knob.
19:08
but of course
@Simon Silicone isn't recyclable?
@Iszi I dunno, buy some breast implants and try to recycle them.
dude, you seriously need to get laid
@Iszi nah son
this is why you buy quality in the first place, so it never needs to be replaced
re_re_wot
19:10
@DavidFreitag C'mon, I thought I was the one that needed to get less explicit?
@Ohnana Yeah but some lubricants can cause the material to degrade.
@Simon Unrepentant sinner
@Iszi There's nothing explicit about boobies
@DavidFreitag which is why you only use high quality water based
@DavidFreitag Maybe in France...
19:11
@Simon alright... I'm going to admit to something crazy. This seems like a better idea than jugs. Less waste, less space
@Simon Actually that's a good idea. Soap is pretty viscous and if it's a bag you can squeeze the soap into the dispenser easier.
@Iszi You can't be serious
@DavidFreitag Yup, really easy to refill with this.
I almost enjoy it.
I have laundry detergent and dishwasher soap in dissolvable bags
@DavidFreitag I dunno. Hard for me to tell myself sometimes.
So freaking convenient
19:13
A milk bag would be pretty convenient too
instead of stepping on the jug
Yeah, as a water balloon
to crush it
@MarkBuffalo if it flops around when it's open then you're hosed
@MarkBuffalo That's going to make a HUGE mess.
and laugh manically as the billions of plastic particles cry out in terror
19:14
milk jugs are nice little containers, you wash them out and you have a container to use for other things
and if you don't have a need for it, you just toss it in the recycling bin
I get my milk in glass jars from a local farm
Bring them back and get refills
OMNOMNOM
@DavidFreitag That's cool.
@DavidFreitag whoa that's awesome
@Simon Fresh eggs still warm
@Ohnana Yeah, seriously. Who bothers compressing them? That's the truck's job.
19:15
my local grocery store has something like that
@Iszi i do, it saves space in my bin
It's freaking delicious, but some people say $5 for a gallon of milk is a bit much
@DavidFreitag I'm not sure if the warm part turns me on.
and it's fun to stomp on things
Anyway, I rarely drink milk, only use it for recipes.
@Simon (◕ᴥ◕)
@Simon They have this chocolate milk. It's the tastiest thing I've ever put in my mouth.
19:17
@DavidFreitag Does it come out of a brown cow?
@Simon Yeah but I think it comes out a different end
o lawd
They also have fresh cut bacon
Bush dropped out of running
I'm really glad to see that
And pork chops, steaks, starts to drool heavily
19:18
@DavidFreitag Now I know what you do with your money.
@Simon What money? I stare through the glass with eyes the size of platters
lulz
In the summer they also occasionally have hand made candies. Their strawberry licorice is definitely my favorite.
In the fall the have apple fritters
In the winter they have maple products
@DavidFreitag Wait. What?
$5 per gallon?
glass jars?
That's so old school
@DavidFreitag THIEVES!
19:20
@DavidFreitag So I finally got the wife to try maple syrup and she won't shut up about it
@MarkBuffalo Yup. It's expensive shit, but I pay it because it's the most epically delicious stuff you've ever had. It's all family run and they do all the work.
@MarkBuffalo lol
@DavidFreitag It's better than store-bought stuff?
@MarkBuffalo Only about a billion trillion times
I've never tried the epic stuff
@MarkBuffalo what grade is the maple syrup in your grocery store?
19:21
$1.87 per gallon of whole milk here...
if it's not grade A, you're wasting your time
@Ohnana I mean his milk. I want to know about @DavidFreitag's milk, not his syrup.
@Ohnana ... They have grades?
oh yeah, farm milk is insanely good
@MarkBuffalo That "whole milk" is like water compared to what I drink.
19:21
@Simon in the USA we do
We almost only have pure maple syrup here so dunno about grades.
@Ohnana Aaaaah.
@DavidFreitag hm... is there more fat in whole milk?
A is for eating, B is for eating if you're desperate, C is for cooking and baking
@MarkBuffalo Judging by the taste I'd say definitely, but there isn't exactly a nutrient panel to read from
@Ohnana I don't know anything about syrup
19:22
@ThomasPornin Do you go to a cabane à sucre every spring?
(let's see how québecois Thomas is ^)
@DavidFreitag I'm always down to buy more fatty and protein-based products for my kids
it just refers to the different stages of refinement. A is the "top shelf" per se with less viscosity and a smoother flavor, and C is the thicker, molasses like product with body
those are the top two nutrients we go for when shopping for snacks for them. top 3 are vitamins
The place I go to also usually has fresh produce, but I generally blow my whole paycheck by the time I'm past the meat, cheese, and milk
I genuinely considered seducing the farmer's daughter for a healthy discount.
@DavidFreitag don't forget your veggies son
they're cheap and if you ask for "seconds" then you get even cheaper produce
19:24
@Ohnana I'll just go gnaw on some grass
@DavidFreitag Get a wife, and have a baby or two or three. Be the sole breadwinner. Apply for food stamps and get a huge discount on that stuff.
The DMZ
@Almo Almo
@MarkBuffalo As if this is cheaper than paying for a kid.
alternately, go towards closing and ask them if they have any damaged produce from the day. eat it that night
19:25
Almo
@Simon Food stamps will provide all the food they need, pretty much all of it
@Almo Is there an echo in here?
Also, if you really want to abuse benefits, you can get like 60k+ of benefits
@MarkBuffalo I hate people who do things like this.
(Not that I'd do that, it's just an option)
@DavidFreitag hahaha
19:26
@Simon No. I went once, and it was really low-quality.
@DavidFreitag Yeah, I'd prefer to work
@ThomasPornin !!!!!!!!!!
@DavidFreitag maybe
:)
@MarkBuffalo that's weird, all i see are people not getting what they need to survive :(
19:27
@Ohnana Really?
@MarkBuffalo yeppers, a few of my friends really should be on disability, but they keep being told "your illnesses are made up"
@Ohnana Around here you get people driving around in escalades dressed in name brand clothes with really nice jewelry and shoes etc, but can't afford food or heat or housing
@Ohnana Single friends?
@MarkBuffalo i think so
As in, friends who don't have a wife and/or kids?
19:28
It's infuriating
There you go. You need a spouse + a kid to really get the benefits going
which is stupid, because married people are usually in better financial shape
@DavidFreitag I saw someone pay for two brand new cars with welfare, along with fully-loaded shopping carts, etc.
They got their utilities paid for...
@MarkBuffalo I would like to eviscerate those people.
Housing only cost them $200 per month for a 4 bed/2 bathroom home
19:29
there should really be some kind of restriction on what welfare money can be spent on
@DavidFreitag Don't ever go to an Indian Reservation. This is normal
Quick poll: do you guys have/would consider a joint bank account?
@Simon I would, definitely.
joint with one's partner/spouse you mean?
Especially if you live with that person.
19:29
@Ixrec That isn't the problem. Their welfare pays for a lot of other stuff, leaving them with lots of money to pay for the luxury items with
@Simon only if necessary, my finances and my donut's are technically seperate
@Ixrec Ya.
@Simon we've done it since we were boyfriend/girlfriend
@Ohnana There's a difference between joint assets and a shared account.
well, since we were engaged.
19:30
@MarkBuffalo I was referring to the anecdotes above about people allegedly paying only for luxury items but not food/rent/etc
A shared account makes buying big things like appliances easier.
@Ohnana I like the idea of having a mutual account where we both put money to pay for mortgage and stuff but not for my own money.
my girlfriend and I have a joint account for most stuff, it's just simpler that way
@DavidFreitag i mean separate accounts. we trade off paying for things, and we keep things equal
@Ixrec No, I think he's saying they could afford that, if they didn't have those expensive items
19:31
@Ohnana Same here.
well, not really since I'm paying rent+utilities + most of the food budget but yanno
@Ohnana I mean sure, it's do-able, but a joint account makes it simple
@DavidFreitag idk man it's pretty simple right now
then again, our expenses are low right now so it's not a huge deal
if we had a mortgage, then hell yeah we would probably have a joint account
19:32
@Ohnana Everyone always makes a big deal out of mortgages. My friend bought a house a few months ago. His mortgage is less a month than my rent is.
@DavidFreitag it's okay, my parents gave me college money up front, his parents aren't in a position to do that. I have more cash on hand, he has investments
and in a few years, his investments will be paying rent and tuition so whatever
@DavidFreitag A mortgage for us would be around $480 per month
rent is $1k
@MarkBuffalo Exactly
In a few days, we're applying for a home loan
what country are you all from?
19:33
<= murica
Granted with a house you have to worry about Water / Gas / Electric but still
USA
@DavidFreitag i have to worry about gas and electric in my apartment
@Ixrec Uranus
@Ohnana Bumer.
@Ohnana Gas/heat is included here. And in some cases, air conditioning
@DavidFreitag i have them set on auto-pay so idgaf
19:34
But not... not at my apartment. Other apartments pay those.
here in the UK I believe it's the opposite situation; there are a lot of people who do buy houses only to rent them out
New apartment has central air
Heat + AC + hot water included.
@DavidFreitag Oh wow, you didn't have it before?
Included!
That's good
@MarkBuffalo No, had shitty in-wall AC
@DavidFreitag we had those on the rez
ugh.. just ugh
19:35
I can't even express how happy I am to be out of that place
@Ixrec there's quite a lot of space in the USA, and we have a ton of houses
@DavidFreitag I feel the same way about getting off the rez
indeed, literally everyone outside the US who's visited it comments on how huge the place is
Do I need HTML to use JavaScript?
@Ixrec you should try texas. now that is HUGE.
19:36
@HenryWHHack No.
@HenryWHHack no, Javascript is just a langauge, and other implementations exist such as Node.js
the cities are compact, tho.
@Ixrec It depends on where you are. Out west it's insanely open, but east coast can be quite cramped.
Thank you
> PS we don't do hardware/software support
19:38
Are you talking to me
Are you talking to him
Am I talking to me
Are you talking to who shall not be named
Are you talking to the bears
Voldemort? No, that guy is a dick.
I stole his nose and he turned me into a newt.
19:40
The reason I came here is because I can't ask questions on stupid stack overflow.
Maybe because you keep asking questions that can be answered with simple google queries?
@Simon It definitely could be that.
@HenryWHHack Are you question banned?
@HenryWHHack that usually means you're not asking good questions...
19:41
I don't know anything about programming thats why.
What is this 20 questions?
@HenryWHHack I thought you said you were an expert yesterday.
In computers not programming
Yet
@DavidFreitag Joke's on him. He still doesn't have his nose back.
@HenryWHHack reading proper books about how these things work is probably more productive than asking these kinds of questions
19:42
@Iszi Yeah, especially since I got better.
what does it meant to be an expert in computers and not programming?
are you referring to hardware?
@Ixrec Hm, what would the "improper books" look like?
Still, have you ever tried asking someone out on a date while polymorphed into a newt?
@Iszi A dirt clod probably.
Not just hardware
@Iszi "Javascript: The Good Parts" > "Learn Javascript in <short time period>!"
that sort of thing
19:44
@Ixrec sysadmin vs. programmer
ah, that would make sense
I am getting out of here before I get banned by AviD!
@Ohnana Yeah but any decent sysad knows bash/cmd
@DavidFreitag that doesn't mean you're an expert at it
@HenryWHHack asking more interesting questions would also work
19:45
Like why did the damn chicken cross the road?
i can poop out some java if i needed to, i'm no expert
@Simon Because the brain slug told it to
@DavidFreitag Far cry from programming.
@DavidFreitag o nooooo
what about programming FarCry
19:46
@DavidFreitag dude, that just grossed me out big time
@Ohnana Wait you can do that with coffee... Oh... Oh dear.
@MarkBuffalo Futurama reference.
@Almo Sounds like a shit job
@DavidFreitag Hey, isn't there that one kind that's made from cat crap or something?
@Iszi I detest coffee. I wouldn't know.
I am going to learn JavaScript and will not come back here until I learn JavaScript!
@Iszi sounds like a great question for Coffee.SE
19:48
@HenryWHHack Ok! We will wait with bated breaths.
@Ixrec Meh, Google will turn it up soon enough.
@Iszi it is
they feed the coffee to the cat and then it partially digests it
Or @Ohnana could.
@DavidFreitag baited.
19:49
@Ohnana No, that's bated.
i think it's a civet not a cat
He got it right the second time.
:(((
I'm a master breath bater
When is elections for the diamond guys?
19:50
Kopi luwak (Indonesian pronunciation: [ˈkopi ˈlu.aʔ]), or civet coffee, refers to the coffee that includes part-digested coffee cherries eaten and defecated by the Asian palm civet (Paradoxurus hermaphroditus). Producers of the coffee beans argue that the process may improve coffee through two mechanisms, selection and digestion. Selection occurs if the civets choose to eat cherries. Digestive mechanisms may improve the flavor profile of the coffee beans that have been eaten. The civet eats the cherries for the fleshy pulp, then in the digestive tract, fermentation occurs. The civet's protease...
@Iszi i was right \o/
@HenryWHHack Diamond people are not elected, they are grown.
@HenryWHHack it's not a regular thing, they happen whenever the powers that be feel one is needed
which on some sites is almost never
As needed when:

- Beta site graduates.
- Site volume dictates increase in mod count.
- Mod needs replacing due to quit/idle/eject.
Moderator
19:51
We had an election a few months back. That's where we got @schroeder
@HenryWHHack Would you like to be one?
> Some critics claim more generally that kopi luwak is simply bad coffee, purchased for novelty rather than taste.
@Iszi I remember this, lol
What's the job?
@HenryWHHack Yeah, @Simon can tell you all about failing to become a mod.
19:52
you run the site and keep things on topic, professional, and running smoothly
WOT
@Ohnana It's also a type of cat. By nickname, if not actual taxonomy.
@Iszi oh
i'm still right
I was a CEO before.
Henry, you're not older than 14 years old, shut up.
19:53
@HenryWHHack Doesn't count if you're the only employee. :-P
@DavidFreitag I almost didn't toss a star on this. Then I realized it wasn't from @Simon. The unicode emoticon really threw me off.
a CEO learning Javascript? we're all doomed
2
And Hacking
@Iszi Yeah a made a unicode face extension for chrome
made my life easier
@HenryWHHack Henry - at risk of sounding negative, a) you don't want to be a mod, and b) your behaviour so far sort of rules you out... (caveat - it is a community decision, but just being realistic here)
Ask @TildalWave if you want to know some of the negatives that come with the gig
rekt
19:57
In fact you could ask any of us
Except for @Simon he doesn't really know.
it's not easy, and you only get paid in T-shirts
@RoryAlsop This guy is trolling us
I WANT MY T-SHIRT
@Simon Fresh out, how about a K-Shirt?
19:58
@MarkBuffalo yep - interesting to see when he hits my "definitely a troll" threshold
@RoryAlsop Being mod on beer is easy. Though I didn't get a t-shirt.
currently unsure if troll or twelve
@DavidFreitag Is that a t-shirt from K-Mart?
@Xander I'm often a mod on beer :-)
@Xander Did you get a case of beer?
19:58
@RoryAlsop yeah but I can talk about it with hands on the keyboard, not like you gagged S&M fans :P
@RoryAlsop little bit of both.
@RoryAlsop LOL.
@Simon No, it's for people born with both arms on one side
@TildalWave how did you find out?
@RoryAlsop I have him on ignore. Oh, btw.. looks like you brought back your creepy mask picture :((( I'm scurrreds
19:59
@DavidFreitag o
@DavidFreitag Unfortunately no.
@RoryAlsop We were all there
@RoryAlsop I've seen the dungeons ;)
@DavidFreitag lol - I didn't recognise you with the masks...

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