What it means is that doing jumping jacks and high knees instead of running on the elliptical is low impact enough to not cause my asthma to strangle me
@AviD yeah which is kind of how it is/was with experienced hires. My degree would never have got me near EY, but as an experienced hire it didn't really matter
but for young types you wonder what they can show that will outweigh a degree
@Federico the challenge is that smartphones (and indeed all mobile phones) are, by design, tracking devices. even without GPS it's possible to triangulate their location via mobile phone masts
albeit not with quite the same level of precision
if you're looking for a hardware disable, then it implies you don't trust the Operating system to honour requests to disable the functionality (e.g. airplane mode or disabling location services)
which means your only real option would be an open source OS that you audit or otherwise get confidence that it doesn't have a backdoor.
at that point you could use the OS functionality to disable location services...
@Federico Why? GPS receivers are receivers, they can't be tracked in the usual sense by their signal, that one comes from orbiting satellites, not your device.
it's also trivial to disable GPS receiver in software, but you'll find it a bit tricky to disable in hardware, since it's often on a chip with other sensors, like gyro and accelerometers
wifi can be disabled in the same way as GPS? and signal triangulation is done anyway, the only solution to that is not to have a phone. what I understand is that apps normally look for the gps data, and I do not want to give them that
well yes but once you disable all of those things (WiFi, mobile network, GPS) you don't really have a mobile any more, what you have is a brick that can play Pacman
@Federico Oh I see you want to know if an app on the phone can get location data when denied it. Well location services on mobile Operating Systems are not just about GPS, they use that + wi-fi + cell phone towers, so unless you're in airplane mode, the data will be on the phone.
then it is down to whether you trust the Mobile OS or not
@Federico the wifi stuff is scarily accurate in any built-up area. They use surveys of access points done by things like google cars to locate the APs and then look at what wireless networks your phone can "see" to locate you.
@Federico GPS doesn't transmit any data, so if you're worried primarily about GPS then you're worrying about something that isn't really a threat without all of the other radios to re-broadcast the data
@Federico yes but then you started talking about triangulating your position based on GPS, which isn't really an issue without some other process to broadcast that information
If you have a stand alone GPS unit in your car, it doesn't broadcast your location
it only receives data
so if your worry is about people getting your position from GPS data and you're wanting to turn GPS off for that reason then you're doing it wrong
If you don't want things to get your actual location, then modify some android version to feed fake location data to the aps you want to have fake location data.
even when you're not broadcasting your location, using social networks will reveal it pretty good by simply looking at who you have in your friends list and communicate with... for example, you might "like" some pizzeria... I can then sit there at about the time you liked it and you'll be there in a week or so
I mean, is someone in particular that you're avoiding for personal safety concerns, or is it "the government", or did you just get annoyed by targeted ads?
@AviD 3 (sometimes 4) satellites passing overhead will send a timestamped "ping". The antenna in my device receives the pings and based on the timestamps + receive times, it will solve a bunch of equations to find where I am
I'm thinking about temporarily hiring @AviD just so I have an address to send invoices to for each instance of me getting stuck watching shite on youtube
you know there's only like 30 minutes of my morning left right, so while "rest of the morning" was overly dramatic we're really not talking about all day here
is a picture of freshly painted nails an op sec issue
well that depends what is in the background I guess
what is in the background?
yes, that's an op sec issue I guess
are you really considering it or are you just teasing
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
now that's a moral issue
is it fair
it's not fair
does anybody care?
nobody cares
continue
@RоryMcCune well the main issue is, normally a single nail would take three strokes with one color but when you're doing five colors per nail and your OCD requires they all look at least nearly the same
also this week is weirder than usual because I have a set on a Wednesday night
which is basically a glorified school disco of some description to a relatively smaller crowd in a relatively small building for a relatively small fee
getting distracted by something completely random that you arrived at on the way to something much more important and then dedicating too much time to fixing said random
"I'm going to watch a movie" actually means "I need to find a movie to watch" actually means "I'm going to browse G:\Movies" actually means "I'm going to spend 90 minutes renaming files so they're all consistently named"
"You just need a bit more reverb on your lead riff" turns into completely remixing down the track because you noticed something completely random and spend another hour listening to the kick on loop just so you could do some more eq'ing
@AviD basically the amount of chat that occurs is directly related to whether you're included in the conversation
briefly commenting in chat because somebody is wrong on the internet results in you wasting your entire day chatting
I only turned on my laptop this morning because I wanted a better screen to read all the facebook hype about the latest CD one of my tracks is on being released and then I ended up noticing somebody chatting nonsense about GPS and NOW I'M STILL HERE
@AviD an ex-political ally of the UK Gov just published an unofficial bio of the UK PM (David Cameron) including allegations that during a Bullingdon club initiation ritual he placed his private parts into a dead pigs mouth
@AviD the bullingdon club is basically like a high-end fraternity
twitter is basically a more fun version of Stack Exchange chat where instead of snarky comments that gain stars you post snarky comments that gain retweets
