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17:02
@kalina I think it would probably require more than just 372 steps
now you're just being too literal on purpose
@kalina That's what dish washers are for.
@CodesInChaos pls you don't put mice in the dishwasher, how cruel is that?
is this a moderator openly suggesting animal abuse?!
OMG GUYS LOOK
points
@kalina Well obviously you would kill it first.
y r u pointing a nurd
17:04
And it's not abuse if you plan on eating it
@kalina Not our moderator, so we don't care.
@DavidFreitag that's disgusting
@Iszi pls, that's the reason to care
@kalina To you.
we don't care if our moderators do silly things
@Simon plz engels I understand u not
@kalina Yes we do, but only during erection season.
17:05
@kalina englès?!?
@Iszi Isn't that every season?
@Iszi pls all of your moderators are men, erection season is all year round
Heh. Engrish FTW.
also that's sexist, for gender equality reasons I should be made mod
...
@kalina Have you ever tried to get an erection when it's -10°C outside?
17:06
@kalina ...
It's not hard.
@DavidFreitag -.-
I can't say I've ever had that problem
You should count yourself lucky then.
I will add that to the lucky list
@DavidFreitag Pun intended?
17:08
@Iszi Indeed
@Iszi if you had to ask...
y u think am dum
ma ex-dod is dum as F
@Simon am yo oroight cocka?
cocka kola?
17:10
@kalina Difficult to tell. I mean, getting an erection when it's -10 (any scale) outside is fairly easy so long as the ambient temperature of the room you're in is comfortable enough.
@Iszi surely it would be if the temperature of your penis was at a comfortable temperature?
@kalina That very much depends on one's ability to focus. If the rest of your body is uncomfortable and distracted, it really doesn't much matter what's happening down there - it just ain't happening.
for starters, -10 seems like an unrealistic temperature to be contemplating such things anyway
I certainly wouldn't be thinking that
@Iszi Are you kidding me? It wouldn't hard at all to focus.
You silly southerners.
on my mind would be "WEATHER Y DO U HATE MEH!?" and "ffs can we be somewhere warm?"
certainly not the right environment to be taking clothes off
17:13
@kalina And then you start thinking of immediately accessible "warm places"... and whammo.
@kalina When you gotta do it, you gotta do it.
@Simon pls, you never gotta do it that badly
unless of course it's a perfectly serene location
@kalina Tell that to Spock.
and well, then you gotta do it
amazing, serene means what I thought it meant
pls.
17:14
@kalina Inconceivable!
who dat ugly f
@Iszi that's what @Simon's dad said to @Simon's mom, but look what happened
@Simon That's what @Simon's dad said to @Simon's mom, but look what happened.
ooh... déjà vu
17:17
pls am as prutty as a plank
@Simon ... I was saying your dad thought your mom is ugly, but was too desperate anyway.
o
That flew right over my ween.
all daddy wanted was a blowjob
@kalina That is something no one should ever hear.
@DavidFreitag "Son, you were supposed to be like your brothers and sisters: digested".
17:27
@Simon vomits
Although that would raise some questions considering I only have a sister
@DavidFreitag just think, your sister has/will have sex and that includes all of this
@kalina Yeah that doesn't bother me, nice try though
it doesn't bother you at all where your sister may get part of her daily mineral intake from?
o lawd
17:41
I can't take this much further, @DavidFreitag is unbeatable
wat
@kalina My family isn't big on the whole kissing thing
^
Which is a good thing, imo.
In fact when one of my family members from my dad's side of the family kisses me on the cheek at family get togethers my brain stops working for a few seconds
well that's because it doesn't happen to you very often
17:43
rekt
@kalina s/very often/ever
Now it just got sad
pls @kalina stop being mean
one minute it's laying down casual burns, the next I'm the evilest person ever
make up your minds
@DavidFreitag I'm sorry @David, you know I'd only be meaning it if I were saying it to @simon
17:46
yh
I'm going to go sit in the evil bitch corner now and cry
@kalina Isn't that where @Simon normally resides?
@kalina No need to be sorry, if I were even remotely bothered by those things I shouldn't be on the internet
@RoraΖ no that's the whiny bitch corner
@kalina Whatever keeps you from burning the planet down, I guess.
17:47
all pls
@Iszi When you're on a roll, you just can't stop it.
@Iszi my tears are the only thing that would put out my fires
thus by getting rid of my tears in advance I'm preventing a change of heart
I was expecting my ex-dod to pitch in but I think he's trying to reconnect with me.
@Simon I don't think you're reading that right
poor @Simon
17:48
BUT HE SAID "I guess"
PLS ALL
he's so new that he agrees with people mocking him and laughs along with them
Come to think... @RoryAlsop, is this song meant to be about @kalina?
oh, that's a nice name
@kalina Nice edit.
@kalina ohhhhhhhhhhhh
17:50
what, it was on too loud
WHAT IS THIS PANNING
DAW output is quite a bit quieter than Windows
@kalina nice attempt to save
and soundcloud is red lining my output
Haha, silly Brit has no accent when he sings.
Silly Brits.
17:51
@Simon Nevermind Brit. He's a Scot. That's one hell of an accent difference.
Yeah, even worse.
not according to this thing we're all listening to
I actually understand him when he sings and I bet that when he speaks, I'd miss a ton of words.
oh, there's a quiet part to this song?
oh it's the end
nvm
my neighbours probably wondered wtf just happened
we don't have music like that around these parts
@kalina You poor, deprived thing.
17:54
yes... deprived...
also it's worth noting after all of this upgrading and the severe pain I have been through in the process that I have gained no noticeable performance difference while making music
You're a pain.
well sorry for existing.
@kalina That's unfortunate :/
@kalina Sounds like you're doing it wrong.
I can measure a performance difference, it's just too small to really matter
and obviously disk access is noticeably faster
18:01
@kalina Measurable but imperceptible? Sounds like something else...
@kalina Did you get some of those insanely fast PCIe M.2 drives?
@DavidFreitag two of
I've redone the mixdown on this track to -16 LUFS and now my dynamic range has gone from 11.5 to 7
@kalina I understood 0% of what you just said.
18:05
@kalina is that good?
well... er
it's not bad but it's going in the wrong direction for my liking
I was going to say isn't more dynamic range a good thing?
most super commercial stuff will have a lower dynamic range than that but I try to aim for a dynamic range of 12 so that once <mastering engineer> has ruined it it's still pretty dynamic
dynamic range basically being the difference between the loudest part and the quietest part in the track
so music with a low dynamic range will sound loud all the way through with no breaks
whereas music with a higher dynamic range has loud and quiet parts
@kalina ah right, so it's a higher is better kind of thing
so classical music has a super high dynamic range whereas rock and dance generally don't
18:08
@kalina Wait so some random ass person "masters" your tracks...?
@DavidFreitag sure, I send finished product to label and label has it mastered by their usual guy
@kalina Dicks.
unless I'm giving it away for free or want to play it out <tonight> and then I'll do a quick master and not take credit for it
"Oh, so you've painted your latest masterpiece? Here I'll just have one of our guys touch it up slightly and we'll put it up on display in the museum."
@DavidFreitag well it would be more like re-framing it, imo
18:09
So, "dynamic range" I get now. WTF is LUFS?
@kalina Not unless the content of the sound is actually changed.
@DavidFreitag the perception of the contents of said painting would change with the frame
@Iszi loudness units
"Loudness units relative to Full Scale"
@kalina Not as far as I'm concerned.
18:10
@DavidFreitag STFU. Same could be said for "dynamic range" if you'd exercise some Google-Fu.
@DavidFreitag yeah fine the analogy isn't perfect
@Iszi Yes and I google that too? You want a medal or something?
@DavidFreitag Just saying don't bitch at me for not Googling when you yourself said you understood zip.
@kalina But it does have to be said that if the mona lisa was framed by a wood panel with intricately carved penises on it, there would be some effect.
@Iszi I didn't understand it, then I googled it. Isn't that how it's supposed to work?
+popcorn
18:13
And I didn't "bitch at you" I sent you a link.
pls boys there is not enough of me for either of you
@DavidFreitag Well, I guess I figured so long as @kalina was 'splaining "dynamic range" she wouldn't mind clarifying LUFS FFS.
@Iszi Sorry for trying to provide even more information for your knowledge boner.
@DavidFreitag Providing even more information would just be linking to the Google results or a Wiki page. Linking LMGTFY is just being a dick.
it's technically less letters to type
oh, it's exactly the same number of letters
18:15
@Iszi No it's not, if I share a specific link to a specific article then you are limited by the knowledge I chose to share with you, with an lmgtfy link the possibility for your knowledge is only limited by Google.
@kalina Depends on your setup. For me, "go <term>" is all I need.
well that was me trying to diffuse the situation, you all saw it, I tried to prevent this from happening, I am absolved of all blame
@DavidFreitag Yes, but more efficient would be just linking straight to the Google results.
absolved means what I thought it meant
@Iszi It's less work for me to get you an lmgtfy link
18:16
is it really?
@kalina Not in the least. You're the one throwing tech jargon out to the wrong crowd without any prefacing explanation to begin with. :-P
@DavidFreitag I find that claim dubious.
I type "google <term>" into chrome and it forms the link and puts it in my clipboard immediately.
@Iszi pls don't talk to me about throwing tech jargon out to the wrong crowd, I have to listen to you guys talk about cryptography
All I have to do after that is close the tab that opened and paste the link
@kalina Yes, but that's in a room that's (supposedly) devoted to such topics.
18:17
you can't start waving the topic card around when it pleases you most!
@kalina Unless it pleases me the most always.
@kalina Hey, it's even in the room description: !
@Iszi Really, that deserved a capital "stfu"?
oh goodie, @Simon is here to talk sense into you
@Simon Initialisms are always capitalized doofus.
18:19
@kalina Besides, there's nothing to diffuse.
room topic changed to The DMZ: A special place where bears are bears, ponies are pyros and mods are self-censoring... Foreign mods please consult the local team before considering bans :) [doughnuts] [food] [libations] [lufs] [musicproduction] [rory] [security]
@RоryMcCune There @kalina. Now you can talk LUFS without having to 'splain.
you're such a faker
oh, he didn't fake it
well at least now I have on topic things I can talk about...
to myself...
18:20
@kalina that wasn't me you were calling a faker was it... as if I'd do such a thing !
because nobody else cares or understands...
#foreveralone
@kalina @RoryAlsop knows about such things I believe
and @Simon would like to..
@RоryMcCune He only wants to 'cause it interests @kalina and he wants in her pants.
@kalina And here I thought it was just me
It's that whole Oedipus complex thing he's got going on.
18:22
@Iszi @kalina is @Simon 's mother ?!?
Holy crap, I spelled that right without looking? Color me Freud.
you were married to @kalina
#SoapOperaDMZ
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@RоryMcCune I thought that was established awhile ago?
@Iszi -.-
@Iszi new to me, I'm obviously not paying attention
18:22
@RоryMcCune I'm not quite sure which LUFS that's referring to
those two tags are stupid in this channel anyway
@TildalWave yeah it's better that way
@kalina unlike Doughnuts which totally makes sense
I refuse to talk about music until they're removed
#victory
@RоryMcCune Start here.
user122738
18:26
In other rooms most of you would be banned/suspended for talking this way :D
@RоryMcCune I'd like to request an alteration of . looks much better.
that's why we have a disclaimer in the room title
@Begueradj Hence the note to "Foreign mods" in our description.
disclaimers always make everything OK
inb4 @Iszi
@Begueradj You should go in those rooms.
18:27
@Simon don't be mean
we just had this exact thing and we all decided not to be mean to those less intelligent than us
which means I'm going to be nice to you from now on
room topic changed to The DMZ: A special place where bears are bears, ponies are pyros and mods are self-censoring... Foreign mods please consult the local team before considering bans :) [doughnuts] [food] [libations] [lufs] [music-production] [rory] [security]
@kalina I'd like to see exactly how long that will last.
@DavidFreitag the declaration itself was an insult
@DavidFreitag Probably just about as long as @Simon in bed.
@RоryMcCune Do foreign mods actually look at the topic?
18:28
@RoraΖ of course not
user122738
I hacked a famous e-commerce website a moment ago. Trust me. Everything is still in my hands.
@RoraΖ no idea guv, but didn't see as it would hurt
they come in here, wave their tiny fingers around like they're important and then get told they have no power here
which infuriates them further
also we could accuse them of not paying attention if they ban without doing so :)
which is always bad news
lol
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18:30
lol
OH MY GOD WHY IS THAT BIT SO LOUD
user122738
just a test
user122738
to see your reactions :D
@kalina You're the one who wanted a huge dynamic range. ;-P
I think it's the bassline
I hate my life, I'm bored of trying to make this track sound good when it's already good enough for club performances
18:33
@kalina Bassline louder than anything else? Yeah, seems club-ready to me.
Okay - transcript read! My responses: I think we checked for troll; Swimming in a glacial lake doesn't prevent fun; that song wasn't made for @kalina, but we have already discussed how to provide stems.
user122738
how can police detect I booked a flight 5 years ago to a given country?
@RoryAlsop I'm glad you missed it :P
@Begueradj logs
user122738
logs of what ?
18:34
Sadly opsec fail prevents Metaltech/kalina joint work
@Begueradj The brown kind
@Begueradj well let's see, for starters your passport got stamped, for seconds, you went through customs, for third, you booked a flight, got on a plane, and flew to your destination
Loggly logs
@RoryAlsop pls, throwaway artist name
like MMMM CAKES
user122738
my passport is new (renewed it few weeks ago), not stamped yet
18:35
@Begueradj The hardcopy, maybe.
You can't un-stamp the electronic records.
at the very least, most banks keep transaction data for like ~7 years or whatever
work forwards from there
@kalina Psh. Banks. Intelligence agencies throw nothing away. Ever.
@Begueradj Did you pay for the flight in cash?
user122738
I did not know. But may be police can not contact my bank for that, it is private
@Begueradj hah, private
how novel
user122738
18:37
@DavidFreitag no, with my bank card
@Begueradj Yeah you screwed
Banks have very basic data, held for anywhere between 7 and 100 years. Online shops have way more data. And three letter agencies... Soooo much data :-)
@RoryAlsop poor NCIS
user122738
ok, thank you for the info
@Begueradj Aside from the purchase of the flight, there's probably about 20 other places - from private companies to government intelligence agencies - where international travel gets recorded and tracked.
user122738
18:39
@Iszi you scare me , luckily I did not go to Syria ... yet :D
Unless you plan on providing your own transport and hopping across unmonitored sections of the border, expect that half the world has records of your international travel activities and/or attempts.
@Begueradj are you talking about your future intention to join a terrorist cell?
future
user122738
@kalina do not worry :D I love candies :D
I'm not sure how that changes anything
@kalina C'mon, I thought our time on the CIA watch list was about to expire! Why'd you go and do that?!
18:41
pls @Iszi everybody knows that we've infiltrated the NSA, we just remove ourselves from the list as we require
remember that time @EdwardSnowdon came in here and told us the various backdoors for the fort meade facility?
srsface, you need to keep up
we're already at step 199
@kalina There's an auto factory in Meade?
only 37 more until we kill the president, blame it on north korea and successfully bring the illuminati back to the forefront of power
oh, and nukes
@Iszi pls I can spell
I promize
@kalina And capitalize too, I'm sure.
@Iszi pls with some of the people that hang out here, based on 2-3 degrees of separation from someone vaguely that they might be interested in, I think we're all pretty much permnanently on every list known to man
@Iszi are you picking on me because @DavidFreitag linked you LMGTFY?
18:44
@kalina Yeah I think I rustled his jimmies
@RоryMcCune Hell, I'm on the list just for talking to you frickin' foreigners.
Sorry for rustling your jimmies @Iszi
@kalina Nah, just bored.
pls I know that, I would just set fire to you but I'm surrounded by flammables
Wow. Just noticed @kalina butchered Snowden's name too.
18:45
@kalina Wait Snowden was in the DMZ?
2 mins ago, by kalina
@Iszi pls I can spell
@DavidFreitag Yeah, Twitter used us as the validation channel.
right, snowdon is a mountain
@DavidFreitag did you not realise that one of our regulars is Snowden?
O WELL
18:45
@Iszi wat
14 secs ago, by David Freitag
@Iszi wat
I mean why do you think we attracted the attention of a big time NSA agent like @RoraΖ ?
yes, Edward Snowden uses the DMZ under the name @DavidFreitag
which is why he's currently acting so sketchy
user122738
Last annoying question if I may: what does DMZ mean?
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@Begueradj is this a serious question?
you've posted how many answers on sec.se?
user122738
just curious
18:47
@Snowden
I used to work for the government. Now I work for the public. Director at @FreedomofPress.
14 tweets, 1359k followers, following 1 users
wow
@Begueradj Wow.
In computer security, a DMZ or demilitarized zone (sometimes referred to as a perimeter network) is a physical or logical subnetwork that contains and exposes an organization's external-facing services to a larger and untrusted network, usually the Internet. The purpose of a DMZ is to add an additional layer of security to an organization's local area network (LAN); an external network node only has direct access to equipment in the DMZ, rather than any other part of the network. The name is derived from the term "demilitarized zone", an area between nation states in which military operation is...
I was so wow'd I got inb4'd
@Iszi That's not what I was "wat"ing about.
user122738
18:47
I did not know you named it after that as everything seems strange about this room :D
DMZs are strange places
the normal (firewall)rules don't apply
@kalina You so punny.
@kalina Hence why you're allowed here.
@Iszi pls, they accept you
'Cause, y'know, the firewall rules not being in place...
18:48
@Iszi Please, she has better opsec than you could even dream of.
even @DavidFreitag is getting in on the pls
user122738
ok, ok, thank you .... because I read : A special place where bears are bears, .. so I thought of something else as weird as that :)
@Begueradj ah you're talking about the bears
that would be @ThomasPornin and @TomLeek
who're both bears
and fierce-some
user122738
:)
@Begueradj Yeah, I petitioned to get that changed to "bears are deities" but got denied.
18:50
@kalina Uh oh, she pinged the Leek, everyone hold onto your butt
user122738
@Iszi lol
I'm allowed to ping the Leek
I am immune to bears

 The Base Camp

Nothing running?
Does France even have indigenous species of bears?
L'ours est présent dans les Pyrénées depuis des centaines de milliers d'années. La population actuelle d'ours brun eurasien (Ursus arctos arctos, sous espèce d'ours brun) qui vit sur les versants français et espagnol des Pyrénées est souvent nommée « ours des Pyrénées », toutefois, il ne s'agit pas d'une espèce à part entière mais d'un sous groupe de population d'ours bruns extrêmement réduite. Elle a fait l'objet d'une importante médiatisation ces dernières années, opposant les éleveurs pyrénéens, qui lui attribuent de très nombreux dégâts, aux partisans de sa conservation et du renforcement de...
18:52
@M'vy Gonna go ahead and say that bears in zoos are not indigenous...
@M'vy However they got mostly extinct (last indigenous female died some years ago) so new bears were imported (from Slovenia).
They are the same species.
But thanks for contributing to my knowledge of species of European bears :]
@DavidFreitag I don't think they are. Well the one on the picture is obv.
@DavidFreitag In fact there are only 8 species of bears worldwide
amazing, a single ping summons him, like... every time I do it
most reliable man in history
user122738
18:54
Les Pyrénées sont en deuil :( @M'vy
The French and Slovenian brown bears are the same species as the American grizzly.
@kalina That's because @ThomasPornin is not a man, he is a bear. Duh.
And there are reports of seemingly healthy grizzly/polar bear hybrids, so they could possibly be considered to be the same species as well.
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heh - saw this. It brought back old times...
@RoryAlsop I'm pretty sure someone made this one just for you. Mission accomplished.
18:59
@M'vy making stone was much harder - had to cool all that molten stuff

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