The Sphinx's Lair

To be fair, there's a very specific word in the German language for "you're not wrong and your logic makes sense, I just don't agree with you because I don't want to"

HTM

4:04 AM

Oh hey, new Only Connect came out on YouTube, guess I've got my next hour booked

Prince North Læraðr

@Sciborg Of course Germans would. Probably made by philosophers

merrybot

that word is?

(or is it weird, sorry)

Prince North Læraðr

"Yeah, I get your point Kant, but I'M still right"

Sciborg

well, i have it, but it has a swear in the post

HTM

Hmm it's a past series though

Bubbler

4:05 AM

Seriously I never knew there are so many SE sites dedicated to specific software and specific field of CS

and so many specific hobbies

Sciborg

there you go

merrybot

> term used when a person makes up a random German-sounding word and people will follow/believe it since they do not speak the language

Sciborg

...well, it looks like i've been bamboozled.

still funny though

Ankoganit

aw

I really wanted that to be real

Sciborg

it's the thought that counts :p

Ankoganit

4:07 AM

of course

merrybot

apparently the longest word in german is Donaudampfschifffahrtselektrizitätenhauptbetriebswerkbauunterbeamtengesellschaft which has three f's in a row

Sciborg

does that also mean "when a person makes up a random German-sounding word"? :p

merrybot

nope

> Association for Subordinate Officials of the Head Office Management of the Danube Steamboat Electrical Services

Prince North Læraðr

Well, Germans like to merge their words into one long word

Sciborg

i can't believe that is real, but i bet it is

Ankoganit

4:09 AM

yeah being "one word" in German isn't really the same thing as in English

merrybot

google translate can't even understand it entirely

Sciborg

quora.com/…

Sounds like somebody just made it up to be the longest word, which is still pretty funny

merrybot

the longest word in english would take 379.638 chat messages to write out
and three hours to pronounce
it is the chemical name for "titin"

Sciborg

I'm glad that terms in other languages exist solely to bamboozle people who don't speak the language

bobble

The "longest" word in English is the name of a protein, because you create protein names by stringing words for their amino acids one after another.

Sciborg

4:12 AM

Like, I can't even be mad about being tricked, because it made me laugh

bobble

However, it's never been written down except to claim that it's the longest word.

So that doesn't count.

Sciborg

^

merrybot

methionylthreonylthreonylglutaminylarginyl...isoleucine

bobble

The other, actual longest word is also the word for a protein, but that one is considerably shorter

ahhh posted Lit answer

merrybot

and then there is the not-longest-anymore "antidisestablishmentarianism"
yes i manually typed that

Sciborg

4:14 AM

Further proof that we're all nerds: we are now discussing the technicalities of the longest words in different languages.

merrybot

yep

Prince North Læraðr

@bobble I thought that the longest word in the English language was the lung disease

pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis

merrybot

nope by a long way

Prince North Læraðr

dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/…

merrybot

5 mins ago, by merrybot

the longest word in english would take 379.638 chat messages to write out
and three hours to pronounce
it is the chemical name for "titin"

Bubbler

4:18 AM

Names for organic compounds tend to be long, but they often contain some numbers, commas, and hyphens too

merrybot

not in the case of titin

Bubbler

really?

merrybot

methionylthreonylthreonylglutaminylarginyl...isoleucine
(it's like 190k letters long)

Ankoganit

I don't think titin is named according to the usual organic chem rules

bobble

8 mins ago, by bobble

The "longest" word in English is the name of a protein, because you create protein names by stringing words for their amino acids one after another.

Ankoganit

4:20 AM

the IUPAC rules, i mean

bobble

The tobacco mosaic virus protein made the chem people realize they needed useable names for their molcules

Bubbler

Ah, so it's just a sequence of amino acids in the protein

bobble

amino acid names modified slightly so that they string together better, yes

Bubbler

That's, erm, cheating

Prince North Læraðr

@Bubbler That doesn't count then

merrybot

4:22 AM

speaking of permutations, math

such as the quartic formula

Sciborg

a conversation i will probably have tomorrow:
"Man, Mick, you must have gone out partying last night."
"...Yes. Yes, that's what I did"

bobble

"Was there any hot goss?"

Sciborg

"...For sure, yeah definitely"

merrybot

"no, just linguistics"

Sciborg

"what kind of juicy deets did you talk about?"
"...bookshelves"

Ankoganit

4:24 AM

don't forget glasses

that was definitely juicy

Sciborg

Only the spiciest

Bubbler

Code Golf guys did the titin challenge already

Ankoganit

wonder what word has the largest kolmogorov complexity

Sciborg

I'm not even a little bit surprised

Ankoganit

probably no way to find out

bobble

4:27 AM

"Here's the plan: I go in, start hitting people hard in the face, see where that takes us" - Angel (from Angel)

merrybot

@Ankoganit what even is that

Ankoganit

roughly, the word that's the hardest to code golf

Bubbler

(There was a challenge for outputting a specific 206545-digit number too)

bobble

depends which compression algorithm you're using

can someone go and read my Lit answer? it's long, but I would like feedback

Sciborg

Sure!

Bubbler

4:29 AM

Most protein names are very similar in structure, so I guess they'll all have almost the same compression rate

Then we're left with regular words, the longest being just 45 bytes uncompressed

merrybot

@Bubbler (and also the lyrics of nggyu)

Sciborg

Fantastic answer @bobble, I like how you show how it symbolizes the whole book - having binary choices presented to him and taking a third and perhaps unintended/"dirty" route to win. I love that book and that lines up really well.

bobble

:D

Sciborg

:D

bobble

the most important question: is it better than the other answer?

"answer"

Sciborg

4:34 AM

"answer" is a strong word

Bubbler

@merrybot That's only 1872 bytes

merrybot

well yes but

i found it interesting

speaking of Ick Rastley, he got mixed up by google translate recently

bobble

4:48 AM

'borg, you got any name ideas for me?

(I've been considering different ones in my free time)

Sciborg

Hmm

bobble

I'm fishing for one that's non-gendered, but leans female (like me)

@bobble username or?

name name

oh uh

4:49 AM

Casey, Bailey, Astrid and Riley come to mind as "non-gendered but leaning female"

bobble

I probably won't switch anytime soon, but it's nice to consider

Riley reminds me too much of Those Riddles

merrybot

Those Riddles

Sciborg

True, true

We do not speak of those Riddles here

bobble

Bailey reminds me of that dog movie where he regenerated

Astrid is interesting, though

The other one I came across was Quinn

Sciborg

Ooh, I like Quinn

One of my trans buddies IRL chose Harley, which I always thought was a hella cool one

bobble

4:53 AM

these are good names to daydream about

Sciborg

Another trans pal of mine was looking for a masculine name and decided on Sisko from Star Trek :p

bobble

they were a nerd?

Sciborg

They were the gayest nerd that ever nerded

bobble

were they a bookshelves-and-glasses nerd, though?

Sciborg

Nah, more of a TV and movie nerd

Trying to think of other names, hmm

Charlie?

bobble

5:03 AM

Ehh, I've only ever known male Charlies

Sciborg

Avery, Kennedy?

bobble

The reason I had Quinn was because I was Quinn Avery in an HP game. I found this especially funny, because the Averys are a Death Eater family.

Sciborg

Ahh, I see it now :p

nerrrrrddddddd

Bubbler

maybe Kay

Sciborg

Ooh, that one is good too!

bobble

5:06 AM

another one to sound out to myself in my head

how would you even choooooooooooooose

Sciborg

Be cool like me, choose Mick

Can't go wrong

Ooh, I just came across Sky and that one is cool too

Prince North Læraðr

Oooh

Bubbler

Try out the name at Starbucks (just kidding)

Prince North Læraðr

Yes

I like Sky

Sciborg

@Bubbler I mean, you joke, but that's actually a great way to test if you like it :p

Prince North Læraðr

5:11 AM

Oh just finished a clip of me playing a bit of the piano

Will share in a momento

bobble

Only problem here is I detest the smell of coffee

(also the taste)

Sciborg

Try it at a take-out place, give them the name and see if you respond to being called

Prince North Læraðr

(Also my stump reveal)

Bubbler

^^

bobble

also everywhere I go is with my parents

Bubbler

5:12 AM

That's too bad

bobble

college, though, would be a chance to try

Sciborg

Heck yeah

Prince North Læraðr

@Sciborg Now you got Schuyler sisters in my head. Ugh

Sciborg

I've cursed you

bobble

and Peggy

Prince North Læraðr

5:14 AM

The Schulyer Sistsers

Daddy said not to goooo down town

North plays piano

2

Hopefully I didn't accidentally share personal stuff in there

Sciborg

!!!! that's rad!!!

Piano buddies

Prince North Læraðr

That's the opening of "What if I'm not worthy of her ideals?"

One of those up there that you need to learn :P

Sciborg

Yeah, yeah :P

Prince North Læraðr

Especially because right after the part I ended, I can't technically play it because it requires the left hand to play four notes at once

Do it for me, Mick. Do what I could never have done

Sciborg

I shall do it for you

Prince North Læraðr

5:17 AM

Though I've been exploring ways to arpeggiate it

Anyhow, it's like almost 9:30 here and I have school tomorrow

Ta ta for now!

Sciborg

Good night! :D

Thank you for the piano vibe session

Prince North Læraðr

Np

bobble

'borg, do you want to guess what non-econ topic my econ class will cover tomorrow?

Prince North Læraðr

Maybe once I graduate and am not worried about weird internet creepers, I'll post me playing trumpet :P

@bobble Oooh more election!

Sciborg

@bobble Election talk for sure

Prince North Læraðr

5:20 AM

~~Election fraud v.s. concession speech: The debate continues~~

That's my one election joke for the day

Sciborg

You have used your allotted election joke

Prince North Læraðr

Yes

Sciborg

Please insert $5 for another election joke

Prince North Læraðr

Har har

Alright good night!

Sciborg

Good night!

Hi Deus!

bobble

5:21 AM

ooh, Deus can read our glasses gossip!

Sciborg

We need to know if you have glasses, I have money on it

There was intense chatroom gossiping about how many bookshelves you own

Deusovi

nope, no glasses, now pay up

Sciborg

NOOOOO

bobble

the bookshelves stuff was for Gareth, not Deus

Sciborg

*Gareth owns, sorry

I'm shook that you have, like, regular non-glasses vision. What is that like

Deusovi

5:24 AM

well, i wouldn't say "regular" - i have mentioned that i'm colorblind before

Sciborg

Ah, that's true.

I'm assuming you've read the chat transcripts and can, in fact, confirm that we are all nerds.

bobble

His mod tools have an "is nerd?" display for each user

Sciborg

"yes"

Deusovi

it's just a static piece of text that says "yes"

Bubbler

isnerd: doubly yes

Sciborg

5:31 AM

isNerd = true;

bobble

is_nerd = True

Python nerd!

Bubbler

Maybe I count as doubly yes, because I have k figures on two sites

bobble

so does 'borg!

Bubbler

(and one is... 40k)

Sciborg

40k is a level of nerd that I can only aspire to

Prince North Læraðr

5:34 AM

@Deusovi NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Bubbler

@bobble C nerd says #define is_nerd 1

bobble

doing quick math, I will reach 40k on Puzzling on August 21, 2024 (at current rate of rep/day earning)

Sciborg

Assembly nerd says mov ISNERD 1

Bubbler

SELECT 1 AS is_nerd;

bobble

screen reader no like code blocks, right?

Sciborg

5:39 AM

unfortunately, i'm working on a fix for it

The Sciborg Mega-Plugin keeps expanding

bobble

What can it do right now?

Sciborg

it can now correctly parse the chat input box and certain abbreviations, i'm currently working on getting it to understand rep/badges correctly

bobble

Is it as bad as the main meta post said?

(or worse?)

Sciborg

yes

bobble

how are you explaining rep and badges to it?

Sciborg

5:43 AM

also, hello again North :p

bobble

with diagrams?

waving your hands around and pointing with a laser thingy?

Sciborg

waving my hands around, at the moment

bobble

having Poofy send telepathic messages?

Sciborg

The problem is that right now, SE stores reputation numbers not in a field that I can pull from or something, but in a title element with a string value

like, WHAT

bobble

whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

it's not a title

Sciborg

5:45 AM

and it stores badges in a DIV with very confusing sub-spans???

and again, title="string value" which is so, so bad

like, it would be great if they just had a value field and set it equal to the rep number or badge number - then I could easily pull that

but nooooo

arghh

bobble

you could make a main-meta complaining post, or answer the original question with a complaining answer. but they're busy with the review queue FAQs at the moment

Sciborg

That's fair. I might bring it up in meta eventually, but for now I can just figure out a way to make the Sciborg Mega-Plugin adapt to it

bobble

You could also put the Sciborg Mega-Plugin up for download and answer the meta question with a link to it and blurb about what it does

Sciborg

Ooh, that's an idea. I don't know if it would work for any screen reader beside NVDA, but maybe it can be useful to other people when I finish it

It would make the site much more parse-able, at least

bobble

also: I thought I'd share my Greater-Than Fillomino answer, since it looks cool

pretty shapes!

Sciborg

5:51 AM

ooooh pretty shapes!

Bubbler

That looks like a lot of work, especially border drawing

bobble

the border drawing isn't that bad, because you only have to do it when you make a deduction, which is less often than I'd like to admit

msh210

@PrinceNorthLæraðr Oh, interesting. Thanks for the explanation.

Prince North Læraðr

@msh210 Np

bobble

'night, all

Deusovi

5:57 AM

night!

oAlt

6:26 AM

Ahhhhhh just got electricity back

oAlt

6:41 AM

@HTM same heheheh

Sphinx

0

Q: Where does my friend live? 8

One of my friend in my class told me this: Roots Vein Alas Upon Bili Kangaroo Chain What is he trying to say?

wordplay

oAlt

@PrinceNorthLæraðr only 230 messages? That's nothing compared to thirteen hours' worth of messages that I have to catch up on ~~cuz y'all were so noisy :P~~ now that we have electricity again

oAlt

7:00 AM

@HTM stay negative

@HTM dangg

@PrinceNorthLæraðr aaaaaa I love their vids ugh

@bobble D:

@PrinceNorthLæraðr <3

Sphinx

7:57 AM

0

Q: Illiterate connectwall

The words here can be grouped into four groups. The groups taken together will hint at a 7 letter word. Good Luck! +------------+------------+------------+------------+ | RANGE | FRO | HANG | ASP | +------------+------------+------------+------------+ | WHITE | WIND | SN...

knowledge connect-wall

Sphinx

9:14 AM

0

Q: Lasers: Doubled Bridges (Level $6$)

Previous Level:- Lasers: Everything is Switched (Level $5$) Here is my next level for the continuation of this game. And I got some doubled bridges !! Rules : There will be lasers which are shaped like an arrow. The arrows pointing in the respective direction shows where the laser goes and the c...

visual optimization physics

Sphinx

10:05 AM

0

Q: Who is a zombie amongst the 3 and why?

Here is a picture of $3$ people eating food. Can you spot who is a zombie amongst them? and why? Taken From :- 7-Second Riddles

riddle visual lateral-thinking

Gareth McCaughan

10:25 AM

In response to the scurrilous speculation above: Somewhere around 100 bookshelves (around 4100 books). How many dictionaries depends on what you count -- I have the Shorter Oxford and two editions of Chambers because UK cryptic crosswords tend to use Chambers, but also a bunch of foreign-language dictionaries and other things that call themselves dictionaries (Oxford Dictionary of Quotations, Brewer's Dictionary of Phrase and Fable, ...). And yes, I wear glasses.

oAlt

10:36 AM

:0

oAlt

1:23 PM

Good news-- I will be able to submit an entry to FTC after all :D

Mithical

1:53 PM

@Sciborg *wistfully* must be nice to be able to see

Basic training: Level completed! Now advancing to the next level: Task course.

matt

3:31 PM

@Mithical ?

(also hello everyone :)
gosh i feel so weird using emoticons at the end of parentheticals

bobble

I just avoid it, usually

matt

yeah

Mithical

@matt I have horrible eyes

-3.5 and -7

matt

~~i see~~

bobble

so one is doubly as horrible as the other?

matt

3:37 PM

that's ... not exactly good

i assume at the moment you are hoping econ won't be weird?

hoping

hm

@bobble aye

@Mithical careful with that rifle...

@Mithical groan

Mithical

@msh210 I am no longer in possession of a rifle, thankfully

matt

3:50 PM

good(?)

Mithical

That was just for basic training

msh210

(I actually had guessed as much.)

matt

4:10 PM

hey gerbil!

(and ankoganit!)

Ankoganit

@matt hello!

Deusovi

(i am also here - hey! glad you don't have to deal with a rifle anymore, i'm sure that's stressful)

matt

oh hey deus!

(didnt see you come in - was off doing other things)

Mithical

4:30 PM

Deus is always here. Watching. And waiting...

matt

and mod-hammer-ing

Ankoganit

And just being devious in general

oAlt

4:47 PM

(oh wait long overdue: sorry to the people whom I pinged more than once :P )

Prince North Læraðr

@oAlt Lol it's fine

Avi

@PrinceNorthLæraðr you play trumpet and piano? what a god

I'm just over here getting bruh'd by chords because I'm super lazy and can't be bothered to read individual notes one by one

matt

hm

Avi

hi matt

matt

'ello

am having some AP test payment issues, unfortunately

bobble

5:00 PM

I used to be able to sight-read complex scores for flute and play them half-decently first try. Though I haven't played seriously for a few years now, so my sight-reading might be worse.

Avi

@bobble does flute have chords

bobble

no, but we do have a lot of weird trill notations

Avi

sounds tough

almost as tough as my next enigmatic-puzzle

Prince North Læraðr

@Avi Lol thanks

Mithical

@bobble dammit Jadzia

matt

5:17 PM

@Mithical ah yes, jadzia dax

(also nice Trek reference)

Gareth McCaughan

puzzling.stackexchange.com/questions/104773/… isn't really much of a puzzle... One could say the same about its predecessor, and I'm guessing also about its predecessor's predecessors (but I haven't checked those yet).

bobble

seems more like straight trivia to me

Avi

5:33 PM

anybody willing to help me debug a pun

Sphinx

0

Q: This day in history IX

Congratulations to Rand al'Thor who got the correct answer to This day in history VIII. What historical event that happened on this day (12th November) is this riddle talking about? Can you explain the clues? Down as low as anyone can go Surrounded by nothing but ice and snow This day marks whe...

riddle history

0

Q: Sports Connect Wall

An entry in Fortnightly Topic Challenge #42: Wordless Connecting Walls The sports here can be grouped into four groups. To solve the puzzle With two of the four groups, form the following sport. While with the two remaining groups, form the following sport.

knowledge connect-wall sports

matt

sure but i have no idea what that even means

Mithical

@bobble gay trivia is much more interesting

2

bobble

that it is

Avi

isn't gay trivia also straight trivia because it's trivia

:pizzathink:

but also, not

therefore gay trivia is straight trivia is a statement that is both true and false

ok back to puzzle

Deusovi

5:51 PM

@GarethMcCaughan agreed

matt

also we had a sub for spanish so yay no weird attendance

~happiness~

Gareth McCaughan

6:16 PM

All that author's "This Day in History" riddles are pretty trivia-ish, not least because it's easy to look up what happened on a given day of the year. The earlier ones are (to my mind) a bit less straightforward than the last few.

Prince North Læraðr

I might not be here to give the 24 hour clue, so can I give it now?

Deusovi

sure, why not

Gareth McCaughan

No one seems to have been VTCing them or commenting that they're trivia questions rather than riddles. I'm certainly not going to bring down the mod-hammer. But they do seem pretty trivia-ish to me.

Deusovi

i haven't been looking at the other questions, but i think that that one at least is not really a puzzle - i've left a comment

(agreed that hammering is probably not appropriate)

bobble

I don't interact with riddles much, as I don't consider myself qualified to judge them

Prince North Læraðr

6:19 PM

@GarethMcCaughan I didn't see it. I've VTC'd using the "other" close reason

C4 Hint #1: The definition portion is one word. The definition might be a bit questionable

bobble

What does "sus" mean in this situation? Does it map to any specific word(s)?

Deusovi

"questionable" (by way of "suspicious"), i assume

matt

@bobble "suspicious", see e.g. Among Us

John Dvorak

Primarily, yes. Secondarily, Among Us reference?

Prince North Læraðr

@Deusovi Yup. The word was not coming to mind

bobble

6:34 PM

#17 in the Fillomino pack was wild. No given numbers, so many fun deductions!

(yes, I'm doing this during class)

Avi

I mean

I'd be tempted to link This day in history I as an example of a better riddle

but it doesn't seem that nice to do that

Rin's Fourier transform

7:57 PM

hmm, what's the policy for using images that aren't yours and could be copyrighted

bobble

probably shouldn't

Rin's Fourier transform

I'm looking at puzzling.stackexchange.com/questions/104466/… which seems to suggest that it's generally fine but I want to make sure

bobble

I'll see if I can dig up a meta post

Rin's Fourier transform

okay

bobble

9

Q: Using images from elsewhere on the web

On PSE it is common for users to create puzzles using photographs or pictures taken from elsewhere on the web (e.g. here and here). Now, I like and enjoy this style of puzzle - it challenges your brain in different ways to a word-based puzzle, and I would like to create a puzzle of this variety m...

discussion

here we go

matt

7:58 PM

why hello there, rin's fourier transform

Rin's Fourier transform

ooh thanks

henlo

matt

ah yes, stonks

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