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12:00 AM
@HTM Yes, and welcome back
I know you've been back for a while, but stil
 
HTM
Eh, more like a week or so now, but yeah it's been a while
Mostly been hanging on the CGCC Discord playing chat games like Codenames
 
I miss doing that
but I can't exactly play at work
After I could, but i'm lazy like that
 
12:23 AM
@Avi Yes, that's a reference to the Mumonkan.
 
ugh i'm stuck on msh's crossword
 
think I"ll leave the chat for now
 
12:38 AM
nooooo gareth why must you do this :P
 
sorry, did I snipe you?
(wait, does "snipe" have that meaning around here? maybe not. "ninja", perhaps)
 
it's fine-- im way behind, although i did fill up a significant area of the grid already
 
I don't suppose you solved 2?
 
yeah i have not either
 
1:04 AM
I edited out all the parts of this answer which I felt weren't addressing the question - can you see anything important that I took out?
 
Yes: the context that explains that the numbers he's putting dots above are ones already written in the cells to indicate what numbers are possible.
(I'll fix it.)
 
thanks!
 
1:22 AM
@Bubbler, I have to leave soon... :( No Nurikabe-solving for me this time
 
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Q: A 5-out-of-9 shading Nurikabe

BubblerRules of Nurikabe: (copied from here) Numbered cells are unshaded. Unshaded cells are divided into regions, all of which contain exactly one number. The number indicates how many unshaded cells there are in that region. Regions of unshaded cells cannot be (orthogonally) adjacent to one another, ...

 
^Something about that is just so cute to look at
 
Even when you consider how the crown is a bobblie wanting to suck you puzzling abilities?
 
May 26 at 19:13, by Sphinx
0
Q: Puzzling at-home-order

bobbleA standard nonlinear, non-clued wordsearch. Similar to the Cluelessly searching for words series, but here letters can be used by multiple words. Rules The words can run in any direction (orthogonal or diagonal) and do not have to be in straight lines Words cannot use the same tile twice, but ...

 
1:25 AM
I think it's the "new contributor" that idk adds to the flair
 
I used to use the standard avatar... I switched away pretty quick, but there's my old avatar
 
@bobble First post, I assume?
 
yep :D
 
My old avatar was a compass
Because, you know... "North"
And then, I became a tree
 
I can almost access review queues on Lit - though I'm probably going to wait a bit (First Posts especially), since I don't feel that I've gotten a decent handle on the culture yet
 
1:27 AM
I chose Kirby simply because it's cute
 
valid
 
then some years later I found there's Bubble Kirby so I changed to this specific one
 
@bobble Well, you're in for a joy ride! Eddie Kal is a great user- also shaking some stuff up in the Lit. SE
Hence all the conversation about improving site scope, etc
@Bubbler Nice
I was actually trying to find the corniest picture of a tree, and this is what I found
I took one look at it, and I loved it
 
Oct 12 at 14:58, by bobble
I used it as a stock image for an AP US History project, and I like it. It's cute! Little button eyes and a smiley face.
as for how I chose the crown
 
2:13 AM
i chose my avatar because... yeah
 
2:33 AM
has your name :P?
 
:D
 
You know, I've been wondering what I could do once I start to venture into getting a degree in music
I was thinking, maybe I should go into music law
I could still get my BM in music and maybe even pursue a masters while having a relatively stable job
 
form a band and tour all around the world 😎 ..eventually
 
waiting for a more logical solution to the newest Nurikabe
 
2:43 AM
@HTM Solution to your CCCC is ASPERGERS (and the dubious enumeration was because maybe it should be (8'1)). AS PER = according to; G = Google; ER(-o)S = loveless love. I have to take issue with the definition, though; Asperger's syndrome really isn't an "emotional problem".
 
oh, nice
 
could not freakin remember a good way to "abbreviate" 'according to' D:
 
@GarethMcCaughan Yeah... that's a bit offensive
I have an uncle with Aspergers and I'm not sure you could characterize it as an "emotional problem"
 
CCCC: Prophetic book's beginning: Jeremiah opposes evil lawyers (4)
 
@GarethMcCaughan J_ O_ E_ L_
 
2:48 AM
yup
 
ohh
 
HTM
@GarethMcCaughan Hence the question mark, there's always a tradeoff between accuracy and having a nice surface
 
aw shoot now I have to make one
 
(Anyone who hasn't cottoned on yet might want to look at the solutions to my last four C4s.)
 
HTM
@PrinceNorthLæraðr I apologize, I know it's a topic that shouldn't be treaded lightly
@GarethMcCaughan Looks like the pin for the CCCC archive went away
 
2:51 AM
ah, nuts. Let me make another one.
CCCC is Cryptic Clue Chat Chains! Latest clue is ⤴/⤵ there! Join the fun! See Deusovi's Cryptic Clue Guide and GPR's Archive & Statistics of past clues.
5
 
Except that there's no latest clue :P
 
Well, no. That happens sometimes.
 
heh
 
anyway, long past my bedtime now. My belated congratulations to KAMPALA ARRIS and JOEL BIDENT.
 
HTM
@GarethMcCaughan Eugh
 
2:53 AM
AHHH
 
oohhh
 
If the election had gone the other way I might have left the names unaltered since TRUMP, MIKE and PENCE are all words already. (And offhand I don't think there's anything off by one from DONALD.)
Except that of course I already did a (slightly scurrilous) C4 clue for TRUMP, back near when the CCCC was new and (IIRC) he was running for president but not yet elected.
Ah, no, on checking it seems he had in fact been elected.
Just a few days short of four years ago. How time flies.
 
truly
 
So the chain has been running for four years?!
 
HTM
@GarethMcCaughan Is it this one?
 
2:58 AM
A bit more than four years.
 
HTM
Nov 16 '16 at 2:12, by Gareth McCaughan
CCCC: One who might grab model's ass (5)
 
That's the one.
(T + RUMP; you need to interpret the "'s" as "has" if you want it to be strictly Ximenean; def is "One who might grab", and of course at the time it wasn't his penchant for grabbing asses, as such, that was in the news.)
 
HTM
On October 7, 2016, during the 2016 United States presidential election, The Washington Post published a video and accompanying article about then-presidential candidate Donald Trump and television host Billy Bush having "an extremely lewd conversation about women" in 2005. Trump and Bush were in a bus on their way to film an episode of Access Hollywood, a show owned by NBCUniversal. In the video, Trump described his attempt to seduce a married woman and indicated he might start kissing a woman that he and Bush were about to meet. He added, "I don't even wait. And when you're a star, they let you...
 
Right. Actually going to bed now. Apologies if anyone was bothered by my covertly political-themed cryptic clues.
 
night
 
3:23 AM
Also late, but noooooo no more Avi ambigram D:
 
Avi
oooooh!!!!!
alright now I just have to answer a CCCC correctly - easier said than done, though
 
CCCC: Watered down porn: suitable for children (11)
(apologies for the surface)
 
3:42 AM
D:
 
Avi
I'm really thinking "appropriate" but not seeing any wordplay
@Ankoganit ADULT + E-RATED
def "Watered down"
 
yep, that's it
 
Avi
CCCC: What can mess up girls badly?! (14)
4
 
4:06 AM
@Bubbler your wish is my command
@Sciborg ping me if you come in
 
Avi
4:26 AM
gonna be out for a while, @ me if anything important
 
4:44 AM
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Q: Odd one out of images

PeteSpot the odd one out. You must justify your answer.

 
@Deusovi, do you have any tips for how to notate a Fillomino that uses the Sum variety rules? I've been just putting numbers and borders into a Google Sheet, but I'm not sure how to notate the boxes & sums.
(for the Cipher variety I just make a little table below the grid for letter-number correspondence)
 
5:30 AM
in google sheets? one option is to highlight the regions and write their sums outside the grid (in the same color)
 
ooh that would work, thanks
 
Maybe have an entire copy of the grid, divided by colored regions and having sums on them instead of clues?
 
hmm, that will probably work better
easier to reference, at least
double-boards set up!
...copied it down wrong :(
 
5:50 AM
Ooh, looks interesting
 
the bottom-right 3 should be a 4
if you want to solve for yourself
 
@Sciborg i "went to MIT" physically for the MIT Mystery Hunt, but did not attend classes there
 
standard fillomino rules, and boxes have to sum to their numbers
'night, all
 
Night
 
night!
 
6:18 AM
Good morning, O timezone-mate @jafe.
(And good whatever, the rest of you.)
 
good whatever to you too!
 
Is gAmen still a thing?
 
haven't seen it used in a while
 
That was kinda convenient
 
good morning/other
 
6:43 AM
between noon and afternoon here :o
 
isn't that just "afternoon"? :P
 
oopsie :p
 
hm, can't find any 14-letter words for the construction i want for the c4
i think with the !? it could be a semi-&lit anagram of "can mess up girls", possibly ending either -ing or -ness
if the answer was three words it could be ANGELIC MRS PUSS, who despite appearances can mess you up pretty badly if you cross her
 
Lol
 
7:15 AM
0
Q: Lasers: (Rotation + Movement) (Level $4$)

AnonymousPrevious Level: Lasers: Cross through the bridges (Level $3$) Here's another level for my new puzzle, after a long time. Some new ideas came too :- Rules : There will be lasers which are shaped like an arrow. The arrows pointing in the respective direction shows where the laser goes and the colo...

 
 
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10:25 AM
@HTM , I must confess that for the longest time I've been reading your former username wrong hahah
I was convinced that that was a lowercase L not a capital I and so kept reading it as "PilsNot3" which I thought was pretty odd
 
 
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12:22 PM
@jafe or perhaps PRINCESS LA SMUG.
actually it's obviously UGLINESS CRAMPS.
 
hah, clearly
 
or perhaps they are working at CERN and they got a SUPER CMS SIGNAL.
 
12:43 PM
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Q: Lasers: Everything is Switched (Level $5$)

AnonymousPrevious Level: Lasers: (Rotation + Movement) (Level $4$) Here is another level, this is a bit tough I guess, but enjoy solving using the previous rules ! Rules : There will be lasers which are shaped like an arrow. The arrows pointing in the respective direction shows where the laser goes and t...

 
12:56 PM
Indeed
 
1:33 PM
@oAlt You're not the only one! In fact, there was a conversation between me and someone else recently in comments on a question (can't remember which) where I admitted to this exact same error! There's been an awful lot of pings going astray there...!
 
1:52 PM
oh gosh hahahah
 
I had the same problem for quite a while.
 
(I just wanna say, I'm quite proud of two of the clues -- numbers 22 and 23 -- in my beehive. (Some of the others are, um, not as good.))
 
2:16 PM
I liked those too. I like the surface of 5, as well. 14 was fun, though also very obvious how it was going to work. I thought most of the clues were good, actually.
 
thanks
 
2:31 PM
Can't remember the clues but I liked some there too
 
2:55 PM
thanks
@Mithical howzit
 
3:14 PM
goooooood whatever-time-of-day-it-is-for-you :)
 
my turn to have nighttime
 
timezones are fun!
 
indeed
 
yawn gaMen
 
North has arrived
 
3:28 PM
Does PSE have "spot the differences between these two almost identical pictures" puzzles (popular in kids' magazines like Highlights)? Are they received well?
 
i havent seen any
that doesn't mean they don't exist, just that i haven't seen any
 
I searched "spot the difference", and it brings up two results, neither of which are standard "spot the difference" puzzles
 
Eyy I used to have some issues of that magazine-- I loved them
 
Right, I didn't see any on a search, either.
They might be too simple for the audience of PSE, which is edit: supposed to be 13 and up.
 
They might also be seen as low/no-effort puzzles
 
3:38 PM
Yeah
 
0
Q: Consecutive numbers whose digital sum in base 10 is the same as in base 2

Bernardo Recamán SantosFind four consecutive positive integers each with digital sum in base 10 equal to its digital sum in base 2. Can five such numbers be found?

 
"find four"
"can five be found?"
which one?
 
3:53 PM
Somehow I have more answers than questions
 
nice :)
 
Same, but that's because I lack the energy to make new questions
and it's pretty much easier to answer than to devote time for making questions
 
4:46 PM
@msh210 busy
Swearing in ceremony was yesterday, on a Tanach
 
was there fancy music?
 
My division just won the inter division bottle collection contest so now we get to eat at restaurants instead of the dining hall for tonight
@bobble some
 
how many bottles did you collect?
 
Personally or division wise?
 
either
 
Avi
4:49 PM
makes pun about countably infinite bottle collections
 
Personally ~50, collectively ~450 if I had to estimate. I didn't get the final counts
 
what do they do with the bottles once they're collected?
 
Return them to the store
0.30₪ per bottle
 
what's exactly?
 
are we asking to many questions?
 
4:53 PM
 
i see
 
Avi
Saskatchewan?? Sooner a suburb of Chicago (6) -> SK + OKIE
can somebody explain how this is the case? I'm not getting it
 
skokie is a suburb of chicago
SK is sakatchewan's postal code
idk about "sooner" being OKIE though
 
Sooners is the name given to settlers who entered the Unassigned Lands in what is now the state of Oklahoma before the official start of the Land Rush of 1889. President Benjamin Harrison officially proclaimed the Unassigned Lands open to settlement on April 22, 1889. As people lined up around the borders of the Oklahoma District, they waited for the official opening. It was not until noon that it officially was opened to settlement. The name derived from the "sooner clause" of Proclamation 288 — Opening to Settlement Certain Lands in the Indian Territory, which stated that anyone who entered and...
Sooners were people who settled in Oklahoma, hence, OKIE
 
Avi
ahhh
 
5:01 PM
AP US history SKILLS
 
interesting
SKILLS
 
Avi
@bobble at this rate you'll get a 6 on the exam
 
yeah that one's a lot of north american trivia
 
Deus, are you available for tutoring now? I can hijack North's room again.
 
sure!
 
5:03 PM
Lol
 
5:20 PM
0
Q: Is there a puzzle that is only solvable by assuming there is a unique solution?

Nathan MerrillIs it possible to construct a puzzle that is: Solvable if you assume there is a single unique solution Not solvable if you do not make this assumption My intuition says that the answer is "No", but I'm struggling to prove it one way or another.

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Q: The children of the sultan

PsplAn old challenge from an old Portuguese book I have: Abdul Al-Kwaritz-Amuhmahd was a Arabic sultan who became very famous by the size of his harem and the number of children he had fathered. More so because many of his children were twins, triplets or quadruplets.One of the legends about this, t...

 
Lots of rain and wind ;_;
 
Avi
It's sunny and cold
 
"mess up" possible anagrind?
I'm guessing this might be an &lit
 
my college interview is in less than half an hour
full panic mode has set in
 
@Deusovi Wow, I got your school wrong
@bobble virtual hug
Wait but what college did Deus go to then???
 
5:32 PM
UP (The University of Puzzling)?
 
This entire time, I thought Deus attended MIT
 
Avi
If you stretch your arms
 
A bit shook, ngl
 
Avi
The sky's the limit
Might need the help of a black hole to noodle-ify your arms that much though
 
@bobble good luckkk
 
5:33 PM
@oAlt Wait, I thought so too!
 
Avi
@bobble good luck!
 
Hahahahah
 
@bobble *VIRTUAL HUGS*
 
@oAlt I've literally always read it as "PiLsNot3" and I was like "huh"
Just shrugged and didn't think much of it
 
yeah hahah
 
5:35 PM
and also, pi is not 3
 
Is "what" an anagrind?
 
i doubt that
 
I have zero clue what "what" can be
"fiddlesticks" is a "synonym" of "what"
 
Avi
What!? Unbelievable!
 
Oh, it's 14 letters
 
Avi
5:39 PM
Oh, fiddlesticks.
 
Hm, maybe it's AH+(upgirlsbadly*)
 
Avi
No comment, but in other news, my circles are visible now
 
yep!
any particular meaning behind them?
 
Very... circly
 
@Avi Yeah they weren't that high-def before
If that's what u mean
 
Avi
5:45 PM
@Deusovi no, it's just circles
Just like the solvers of my CCCC will be going around in circles >:3
 
@Avi I hate you
 
Avi
cackles
 
@Deusovi Could "can mess" also be an anagrind?
 
Okay, so now I have another notation problem. For the Fillomino variety Greater-Than, how in the world am I going to indicate where the greater-than signs are? They have to go in-between two cells somehow, but how?
 
As opposed to just "mess"
 
5:48 PM
i would be very surprised if it was
 
Any suggestions, Deus?
 
@Mithical good. keep me safe. :-)
@Mithical מזל טוב
 
@bobble one way i've done that is by alternating large and small column/row widths
let me try to find an example
 
I'd have to set up a separate area on the side, then, because in the main puzzle-solving area all the columns are standardized.
 
@bobble @merrybot @Avi ...and people from Oklahoma even today are called Sooners. I believe the state nickname is "the Sooner state".
 
5:50 PM
yep, you'd need to set up a separate sheet for it
or merge columns together and have ridiculously big cells
 
Avi
@msh210 And now, I'd rather be Later than Sooner
 
@PrinceNorthLæraðr I was assuming so all along, because of the final exclamation point.
 
@msh210 I also don't see any other possible definition
Maybe "badly" but
 
@PrinceNorthLæraðr ...right.
 
"Bulls parry dig"
 
5:53 PM
leaving to go to college interview
 
Avi
toodles
 
see ya!
 
@bobble See ya!
It's frustrating, because there's no real clear "long" ending suffixes I can make either
 
@bobble g'luck
 
I'm thinking it might be LLY, or RRY?
 
5:56 PM
I think attacking it from the other direction -- the definition -- is doomed to failure, since there's a question mark (and the word "can"), which probably indicates that answer is not necessarily something that messes only girls up, nor necessarily even something that usually messes girls up, etc.
 
Yeah
Hm, I noticed you can make the word "dally" from that
Nvm nothing useful
What makes this really hard though is that there's not even enough anagram letters
There are two words which I presume is a synonym of "what" in from of the anagram of "upgirlsbadly"
HASIPRUBGLADLY
idk
 
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Q: Switching Black and White

JKHAIn this Chess puzzle, your aim is to switch black and white, with a legal game, and arrive at the final position: This aim is likely unreachable. So you must try to get the maximum number of pieces switched. Meaning your maximum score is 32 if all pieces are finally switched. Please note that th...

 
oh boy, another optimization question with no known solution
 
HTM
6:19 PM
@oAlt If it really was a lowercase l, then why would I be claiming that "pils" are not 3 then? :)
 
i did not close this tab and came back to (46*)
ahh
 
HTM
@Stiv Ok, I did not expect that many misspellings, oof
Even l can't teII the difference between 'l' and 'I' apparentIy loI
 
IoI
 
@merrybot I've come back to like 230~ messages
 
wha- HOW
 
HTM
6:25 PM
They're talking about their tree-mail inbox
 
more specifically, about the number in the tab title when you are in a tab that is not the chat
 
HTM
No, it's their tree-mail, isn't that obvious?
;-)
 
@HTM yes of course
 
HTM
You gotta learn to be a more merry bot
 
just wait until a certain holiday comes around
also i am human ;)
 
HTM
6:29 PM
@merrybot Sounds just like what a bot would say to avoid suspicion, hmmmmmmm
 
alright then fine, give me a super hard captcha
 
HTM
 
i have not [applicable past-tense verb] land before time
i am however compelled to say "yes"
 
HTM
@merrybot Hmm, you know what...
I also have [applicable past-tense verb] Land Before Time!
 
@HTM actually i do
== English == === Etymology === From Middle English what, from Old English hwæt (“what”), from Proto-Germanic *hwat (“what”), from Proto-Indo-European *kʷód (“what”), neuter form of *kʷós (“who”). Cognate with Scots whit (“what”), North Frisian wat (“what”), Saterland Frisian wat (“what”), West Frisian wat (“what”), Dutch wat (“what”), Low German wat (“what”), German was (“what”), Danish hvad (“what”), Norwegian Bokmål hva (“what”), Swedish vad (“what”), Norwegian Nynorsk kva (“what”), Icelandic hvað (“what”), Latin quod (“what, which”). === Pronunciation === (General Australian) IPA(k...
 
HTM
6:34 PM
Angkor Wat (; Khmer: អង្គរវត្ត, "City/Capital of Temples") is a temple complex in Cambodia and the largest religious monument in the world by land area, on a site measuring 162.6 hectares (1.626 km2; 402 acres). Originally constructed as a Hindu temple dedicated to the god Vishnu for the Khmer Empire, it was gradually transformed into a Buddhist temple towards the end of the 12th century, and as such it is also described as a "Hindu-Buddhist" temple. It was built by the Khmer King Suryavarman II in the early 12th century in Yaśodharapura (Khmer: យសោធរបុរៈ, present-day Angkor), the capital of the...
 
The watt (symbol: W) is a unit of power. In the International System of Units (SI) it is defined as a derived unit of 1 joule per second, and is used to quantify the rate of energy transfer. In SI base units, the watt is described as kg⋅m2⋅s−3. The watt is named after James Watt, an 18th-century Scottish inventor. == Examples == When an object's velocity is held constant at one meter per second against a constant opposing force of one newton, the rate at which work is done is one watt. 1 W = 1...
 
HTM
Ok, you have won CAPTCHA, please collect your honorary "totally not a bot" award
 
i... don't see it
 
0
Q: Any idea how to solve this map-related puzzle?

johnshelbyPretty confident it has something to do with a map and finding a building. S2L23 / S5L36 / 2 / 1 / S4L95 / S7L58

 
HTM
 
6:38 PM
why thank you
 
HTM
Here you go, had to dig around the SQL database for that one
now you don't have to answer any questions about taxis or crosswalks ever again :)
 
or misshapen blobs of text?
 
HTM
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Avi
Is it legal to turn your CCCC into a question after it's been solved in chat?
 
@HTM good
 
HTM
6:44 PM
@Avi I'd say as legal as hitting a grand slam on a 3-0 pitch: not really encouraged by convention, but nobody's stopping you from doing it
And, as an added bonus, you might peeve a manager while doing so :)
 
Avi
What about before it's been solved :P
 
HTM
Then we'll eject you from the game for unsportsmanlike conduct
And impose ~heavy~ sanctions on you for "clue stealing"
Googling "how to type strikethrough in SE chat"
 
Avi
wah
 
\---strikethrough---
 
Avi
---like this---
 
6:52 PM
ignore the "\"
\---this\---
 
HTM
I see
 
honestly markdown is just confusing
like you can't underline stuff in markdown
 
I think I didn't completely fail the interview!
 
yay!
 
Avi
6:54 PM
@bobble did you prepare beforehand?
And, nice!
 
they said to think of stuff you wanted to share with the interviewer
I told them that I make & solve puzzles
(also tutoring and other stuff)
 
Avi
I think that's probably safe - when I did interviews for MIT & Stanford I didn't really have any idea of what to say lol
 
HTM
Did they ask the infamous "greatest weakness" question?
 
they asked for a difficult/hardship I had experienced
I went with accidentally coming out and half-losing my friend group
 
HTM
@bobble Dang, that's tough
 

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