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Q: Issues with Graph-It (Geometry Homework)

Voldemort's WrathYou are working on your geometry homework (graphic quadratics) and become bored of drawing the axes over and over again. Instead, you find an online tool called Graph-It that you use to graph the quadratics easily. For the first couple graphs, it worked fine... but then, you started to get an err...

 
I spent some time making this puzzle: puzzling.stackexchange.com/questions/102456/…
So I would appreciate if someone could get a bit of a head start on solving it! I am very curious as to how this will go.
 
Avi
8:22 PM
somebody needs to make a MASSAGE &lit with definition - it's rubbish?!
 
hm
 
That reminds me - I made an &lit for my latest Around the Bend before scrapping the CC idea
Rotating body part! (5) BOWEL -> BOW EL -> ELBOW
 
nice
 
@bobble interesting
 
i like how well the unusual wordplay component fits the def
 
8:30 PM
Yeah, I was quite satisfied with how it came out
 
so why'd you take it out?
 
I made the crossword a non-cryptic one
 
ah ok
 
Two other favorite clues that I didn't use:
Legislator (and gentleman!) trades one for English alliance internally. (7)
"Good, about 51 aces" - Blackjack opener by top two leaders. (8)
 
[continues to think about my stegangraphy puzzle...]
 
8:33 PM
[continues to worry that my puzzle has 14 views but 0 votes] lol jk
 
anyone wanna solve the cccc?
 
want to: yes. can: no
 
:(
 
i like RAMM or AIM for exeter museum
throwback could be reversal or moving the letter A towards the back?
 
lets try both
 
8:38 PM
not sure whether the def is "(quaint or) rubbish?" or "stuff from long ago"
 
the ? might be an anagram indicator but i cant find any anagrams
of "rubbish"
 
rubbish was the anagram indicator in the previous clue, i suspect it's used for a different purpose here
 
hm
what about "quaint"?
 
i wouldn't focus on quaint since the hint says the clue would work without it
 
ah right
ummm
@jafe "aim" reversed is "mia" ... might come in handy
 
8:45 PM
memorabilia could be stuff from long ago but that's 11 letters
not that i see how that would work anyway :P
 
@jafe, the pun in your title is just too good
 
hehehe
 
Jeremy, I'm going to be out for a bit (~1hr?), in case you care for when you post that puzzle
 
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Q: No Holds – a barred crossword

jafe Across 1. Country girls finally returning home after being swallowed by snake (6) 6. Strong desire to omit essential part in writing important text (1,5) 11. Error usually eliminated within split seconds (4) 12. The woman's a stepmother to 21 across? (4) 14. Leave one's country to golf in Abu Dh...

 
9:01 PM
@bobble Might not be tonight. It is done, but I want to do a quality check. Tomorrow morning?
@jafe Curious if the "No Holds" is descriptive, or just a clever name. Looking forward to finding out
 
9:17 PM
Tomorrow morning I'm tutoring an then I have school
(hehe, got out of one obligation)
 
9:32 PM
@bobble ? i am confused
anything in the c4?
 
Avi
can anyone list CC indicator types?
ones I can think of are insertion, concatenation, removal, spoonerisms, reversal, homophones, containers
letter selection - firsts, lasts, odds, special (e.g., primes)
 
@Sphinx @jafe you used "Island dweller" to clue "islander" . . . sketchy IMHO.
. . . because it uses the same word, I mean.
I'm not saying it's illegal (and I might even do it myself), just that it's weak.
 
yeah i agree on that msh210
can't spell today
 
yeah, I was going to point that out but forgot
 
?
the fact that i can't spell today? /s
 
9:41 PM
I wouldn't use that either - I'd say it's illegal even (for the same reason that "skier's tool" -> SKI is illegal in a non-cryptic crossword)
 
:P
 
no, the ISLANDER thing
 
Avi
hidden word, example (e.g., "for example", "perhaps") indicators as well
although the latter might be better labeled hypernym indicator
no, definitely hypernym
 
hm
 
Avi
wouldn't really count it as an indicator at all, imo
ohhhh i almost forgot anagrandma
 
9:48 PM
@Avi huh?
 
Avi
anagram indicators exist
 
ah
there are also rare custom indicators
like I used "decays" once to indicate U changing to TH

and then there's "moved toward the front" or "shuffled rightward" or the like
 
Avi
rotation for the latter
decaying is super custom lol
 
yeah
"ah yes,Pthzzling"
gosh thats hard to say
 
Avi
fortunately puzzling isn't decaying just yet
 
9:52 PM
and I don't know if you call this an indicator but there are also copulas
like "becomes", "is", et al.
and there's "exchanging foo's end for bar's heart" to indicate an O becoming an A
dunno what you call that, either
 
Avi
the first part I'm calling a def-wp link or wp-def link
 
okay, sounds good
 
Avi
last one should clue swapping
or could just say
"exchanging foo's end for bar's heart" clues O->A
would rather say exchanging indicates SWAPPING
end indicates LAST
 
@matt jafe's latest cryptic crossword
 
Avi
heart indicates CENTER
and then in the breakdown just show what actually happens
_O->_A_
there's stuff like "Wings"
that'll be FIRST_AND_LAST
 
10:02 PM
@Avi you're compiling a list of indicator words, categorized by type? I think such things exist on the Web already.
. . . though they're doubtless incomplete.
 
under "Setting and solving aids"
 
Avi
10:14 PM
right so
I'm only looking for the types
I'm making my own personal list (api) so I might as well get a long list of the generally used types
 
@Avi I wouldn't call primes common. Evens, though, yes.
 
Avi
public enum IndicatorType
{
INSERTION,
CONTAINMENT,
REMOVAL,
SPOONERISM,
HOMOPHONE,
REVERSAL,
CONCATENATION,
HIDDEN_WORD,
HYPERNYM,
ANAGRAM,
DEF_WP_LINK,
WP_DEF_LINK,
FIRST,
LAST,
CENTER,
FIRSTS,
LASTS,
ODDS,
EVENS,
FIRST_AND_LAST,
PALINDROME,
SWAPPING,
MOVEMENT,
ADJACENCY,
OTHER
}
this is what I have so far
oh, that reminds me - I have to remove hypernym
 
@Avi why the fancy {} stuff and the "public enim"?
 
If you want to include all words not used as words as indicators then you need to include hypernym.
 
Avi
I don't intend to directly include all words like that
 
10:21 PM
why not?
 
There's also CENTERS
 
Avi
I have the intent of doing something like "word" clues "another" or "indicator" indicates "indicatortype"
 
What's PALINDROME?
 
palindromes, like "kayak"
 
And what's ADJACENCY, different from CONCATENATION?
 
Avi
10:23 PM
palindrome a la:
It turns down, but it could turn up (7) - ROTATOR
from Enigmatist
 
Oh.
 
Avi
adjacency is like "A on B" for AB
 
@Avi then what's CONCATENATION?
 
Avi
concatenation is redundant
 
then why is it in the list?
 
Avi
10:25 PM
I have removed it
 
for some reason this got me thinking about grammatical cases
 
Avi
11:15 PM
Person with intense fear of palindromes: "I have aibohphobia. ... ... darnit"
 
how do you pronounce that?
 
Avi
ay bo phobia?
or possibly ay buh phobia
the latter
 
@Avi ironic b/c it is a palindrome
 
Avi
yeah, whoever named it was being mean to the people that had it
 
wait until you hear about hippopotomonstrosesquippedaliophobia
(fear of long words)
 
11:25 PM
what's the name for "fear of pickles"?
 
Avi
rational behavior
or, irrational behavior - depending on which way you look at it
 
@bobble nvm it doesn't have a name
@Avi yes
 
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