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18:00
@Avi @Mithical Apparently we're not people.
@msh210 Sounds about right
Says the tree.
@Mithical Who said I was a person
I am the much more advanced and glorified version of a living being
I am the highest form of life in existence
I AM THE APEX OF EVOLUTION
STAND IN AWE TO THE BRINGER OF THE BREATH OF LIFE
there is no apex of evolution, since it keeps going on
BOW IN REVERENCE TO ME
18:01
I think you will find that is the gerbil
I'm a bobbling crown. Am I a mortal?
Sentient trees would actually fare pretty poorly in the wild. Photosynthesis just doesn't give off nearly enough energy to run a functioning brain.
*yawn*
Avi
Avi
haven't you seen
the blood-sucking trees in xianxia novels
18:03
no
OTOH, an herbivore mimicking its prey...
@JohnDvorak You humans wouldn't know any better
I suppose they could form a symbiotic relationship with humans to serve as a data reservoir.
You insult plant gang
Too many gangs.
18:05
there's the third-life trees in the Ender trilogy (considering Ender's Game as a prequel)
they're telepathic with each other
@bobble I mean, the better question is are you sentient?
Can't die if you're not alive
underground comms, or magic?
Sentient and alive are entirely different things...
I'm sentient. Whether I'm alive is an open question.
All I'm saying, none of y'all would be alive without me
18:08
0
Q: My suffix is an obsolete exercise

Ben BardenMy prefix may well be you, and is followed by u My suffix is an obsolete exercise My infix is better when hard My whole is often done in a line

We don't have any example of a sentient non-alive system. GPT-3 doesn't count.
I am not a robot. I am a unicorn.
@Sphinx "My suffix is an obsolete exercise": solving Riley riddles?
2
@msh210 I'm not sure that's an exercise
Avi
Avi
in annoyance
18:11
@msh210 thats why fortnightly challenges should return!! :P
Riley fortnight challenges? Do we need to encourage more Rileys?
Nononono fortnighlty challenges with other themes, to encourage other types of puzzles
or other genres etc
Ohhh
I see
How about a CC fortnightly challenge?
Avi
Avi
why does cerebellum contain a rebel :o
ahh wrong crossword type
18:15
@Avi what
I mean a CC around-the-bend
Avi
Avi
ceREBELlum
As a theme? Could be interesting
@bobble After doing CCs for a while, doing regular crossword puzzles are downright painful
They're so vague
Theres a lot of new things to the site since the last set of fortnightly challenges which could definitely make interesting themes
Even a 'twisted riley' theme could be interesting as long as its specified to contend it has to have a twist so its not a simple rinse and repeat riley
Avi
Avi
18:17
Monster talks with fluids galore (8) - HYDRA + TED
the last bit needs some work
I want to see more variety crosswords (not just simple grids)
people aren't making them so I am
But I want to SOLVE them
Avi
Avi
but
the grids are the most fun
but I like when words go all twisty
Avi
Avi
but what about the feelings of the words
I might make a meta post soon asking about restarting Fortnightly challenges, and if people want it then suggestions can start to be taken in
18:21
Can someone explain how "Polish hero freed a country" (5) ---> WALES?
I'd definitely upvote a crossword variety theme :)
Avi
Avi
country is probably the def
Well, no sheet music, sherlock
Avi
Avi
freed a = take away the letter a
so you're probably looking for AWALES, WAALES, WALAES, WALEAS, WALESA
as a polish hero
Lech Wałęsa (Polish: [ˈlɛɣ vaˈwɛ̃sa] (listen); born 29 September 1943) is a Polish statesman, dissident, and Nobel Peace Prize laureate, who served as the first democratically elected president of Poland from 1990 to 1995. A shipyard electrician by trade, he became the leader of Solidarity, and led a successful pro-democratic effort which in 1989 ended the communist rule in Poland and ushered in the end of the Cold War.While working at the Lenin Shipyard (now Gdańsk Shipyard), Wałęsa, an electrician, became a trade-union activist, for which he was persecuted by the Communist authorities, placed...
Lech Wałęsa (Polish: [ˈlɛɣ vaˈwɛ̃sa] (listen); born 29 September 1943) is a Polish statesman, dissident, and Nobel Peace Prize laureate, who served as the first democratically elected president of Poland from 1990 to 1995. A shipyard electrician by trade, he became the leader of Solidarity, and led a successful pro-democratic effort which in 1989 ended the communist rule in Poland and ushered in the end of the Cold War.While working at the Lenin Shipyard (now Gdańsk Shipyard), Wałęsa, an electrician, became a trade-union activist, for which he was persecuted by the Communist authorities, placed...
Yeah you beat me to it
18:27
@Avi "don't eat pickles" aha!
@msh210 honestly wth
Avi
Avi
XYZ in the family?
what does that mean?
Avi
Avi
it seems like a book name to me
but not sure if there's anything uh
hmm

this damn "m" key
Avi
Avi
18:28
that's 3, 2, 3, 6 letters
Slaves in the Family is a biographical historical account written by Edward Ball, published in 1998. == Synopsis == The book is an account of the author's family origins, dating back to when they first arrived in America. It also outlines the lineage of the slaves long ago owned by his ancestors. Ball follows the stories of these people over many years as the families dispersed. Over time, the family earned the reputation as "the most prominent of South Carolina plantation owners." The author explores genealogy and history, via interviewing descendants from both groups. Stories from the black...
this is 6 2 3 6
I won't be of much help since I've never answered a CCCC
RUN IN THE FAMILY?
I've solved TWO! haha!
Usually it would be runs in the family
@bobble ?
@bobble sadness
18:30
@bobble You solved the c4? Nice
no, two long before this
this one looks hard
Avi
Avi
please stop
18:31
really, please stop
ok fine
@bobble Ha, but I've solved two-and-a-half
you've been 'round here longer
True, so it's a bit more pathetic
Matt might have a cause for making fun of me for it
That's happened twice
Look, it's because this ' button is next to the enter button
Avi
Avi
ok
so the answer is ALL IN THE FAMILY
All in the Family is an American sitcom television series that was originally broadcast on the CBS television network for nine seasons, from January 12, 1971, to April 8, 1979. The following September, it was continued with the spin-off series Archie Bunker's Place, which picked up where All in the Family had ended and ran for four more seasons through 1983. All in the Family was produced by Norman Lear and Bud Yorkin. It starred Carroll O'Connor, Jean Stapleton, Sally Struthers, and Rob Reiner. The show revolves around the life of a working-class father and his family. The show broke ground...
18:36
@Avi How?
Avi
Avi
figuring it out
thanks i guess?

E96J 92G6 EFC?65 282:?DE FD o?@CE9
E96J 42C6 ?@E 7@C E96 xE?6DD
:7 E96J H:D9 >J 6I64FE:@?[ E96? D@ 36 :E
Avi
Avi
gimme some time D:
Imma beat you to it
Nope I give up
^ encoded message for @NorthLæraðr - rot47
18:37
@Avi "All in the Family is about a working-class white family living in Queens, New York. Its patriarch is Archie Bunker (O'Connor), an outspoken, narrow-minded man, seemingly prejudiced against everyone who is not like him or his idea of how people should be."
Avi
Avi
yeah
it fits the def
the question is the WP
hmm
Avi
Avi
marshal has any abbreviations?
ALL I believe can stand for "Address locator logic"
initially has escaped finding = hef
as in tHE Family
18:40
I'm not sure if that's related to wipetapper's tool
no but its later in the clue
Avi
Avi
ALL IN TH (initially) E_ F_ A_ M_ I_ L_ Y_
Was about to say it could be continued!
Avi
Avi
Escaped Finding And Marshal's Impounding Later You'll
So just all in th
Avi
Avi
18:41
could also be all in t + H_ E_ ...
Wait so what's going on rn
Gerbil deduced HEF
Avi
Avi
then i deduced
LINT - on floor
Avi
Avi
HEFAMILY
Just missing AL
And then done
18:43
aluminum?
it's the abbriviation
Avi
Avi
seems a bit indirect to me
hold on imma look into wiretapping real quick
(Im not 100% on lint btw)
Avi
Avi
i was thinking INT
as in integer
hmmm could floor be def for int
18:45
Wiretapper--> AL i.e. Alexander Grahambell?
Unlikely I'd say
"Isn't it strange that princes and kings,
And clowns that caper in sawdust rings,
And common people like you and me
Are builders for eternity?
Each is given a bag of tools,
A shapeless mass, a book of rules;
And each must make.. ere life is flown
A stumbling block, or a stepping stone.
-- R. L. Sharpe, "A Bag of Tools""
Funny little poem hehe
V srry gur arrq gb pbaprny zl gubhtugf
'LIN' - local interconnect network - wiretappers tool?
Leaving 'ALT' as shoe on floor somehow
h-
18:52
@NorthLæraðr nice
@msh210 I mean I found it so
Avi
Avi
what did you find
^poem
That poem
Avi
Avi
how does that help
18:56
It doesn't
@Avi Where'd you get family btw
Avi
Avi
Finding - And Marshal's Impounding. Later, You'll
first letters
goodbye, probs for good
Avi
Avi
👋
Everything before 'initially' gives ALLINT
So thats whats needed
from 'wiretappers tool stuck in shoe on floor'
18:58
Shoe on floor
ALT
Hm
Avi
Avi
how is shoe on floor alt?
It isn't, but it would have to be if wiretappers tool was LIN
Alternate?
So that probably doesn't work
Avi
Avi
18:59
can tool be abbreviated as T?

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