Lol the ms paint moon gets the star

better quit your job and start selling art :)

meanwhile the artist remains jobless :p

@Tech What is partial US shift?

@Sid 2-10

Extends upto like 11 or 11.30 sometimes..

Ah. Okay.

That's rough

So, its like.. At 6 o clock I see my US based colleagues

2 to 10 non-stop stackexchanging. That's cool.

Yeah.. :p

Where I work there are some contractors from Bangalore and it's hard to make meetings it seems

@n_palum For them? No. For us? Yes. We are called up during really odd times.

Real work starts after 6-7 pm

And production issues after 10 pm :p

Yeah that's what I meant

I see people coming in at 7 a.m our time, and they have to be in meeting with Bangalore folks where it's like 4 pm already

Hmm.. Yeah.. I have worked with people in Italy. And they have a really longer working schedule..

When I visited, I used to visit my office at around 7 am in the morning

For the CCCC, first thing that came to mind for Warning Def (10): ADMONITION

And due to the late sunset there, they used to work upto 9.30 or 10 pm :p

Wow :O

@n_palum Which is a mix of ADMIT and ONION. If you can just figure out a way that "leaky" and "shelter" mean ADMIT and ONION, you've solved it! :P

Oh, Yes. Right.

Great work, @n_palum.

Does it have to necessarily be ADMIT and ONION?

To me 'takes' implies it's inside of another word

Leaky could mean holey, or minus 1+ letters from the middle

Leaky=Tears=Onion. Admit=Shelter(Like giving shelter to people=Admitting people, Iguess)

Ohhh that makes sense Sid

Makes sense, but leaky to onion is a bit stretchy for my taste

...nope

@Sid Waaaaaay too tenuous.

So ADMIT (Shelter) takes ONION (Leaky), Warning = ADMONITION (def)

If we are taking that..

Yes, agreed, it is stretchy..

Onion isn't even fully 'taken'

I'm pretty sure that's not right

:/ hm

I could see ADMIT meaning "shelter" as a verb, but there's no way that "leaky" means ONION.

Yeah

Also I updated the archive GPR

Although the "most days between clues" says 2017/10/05 now, implying Gareth's last one, but it says the count is 153

@n_palum That's my brother's work.

Tooo good

Very nice :)

@n_palum That's because you said the last clue was in October of this year. YYYY/MM/DD. No one, anywhere, ever writes dates as YYYY/DD/MM.

@manshu Can you identify her? :)

Oh geeeeez

Even though I can't. But if I were given two guesses then they would be Hema Malini and Madhuri Dixit (?)

I fixed it - it was close to that 7 day record

Wait

it's Madhubala

Oh yes :)

Exactly that.

@n_palum What's funny is that I would think an American the least likely to make that mistake, because of your odd and confusing custom of writing dates as MM/DD/YYYY. You're used to putting the month first.

idk how this name hit my brain. :p

Hum-Tum

Nice. That was quick

Yes. I have seen that movie.

@GentlePurpleRain "Our odd and confusing customs" I didn't pick how we do things :P

Not blaming you.

Just your country. :P

But IMO it doooes make the most sense

US is probably the only country which uses such weird system of writing dates

Year/Month/Day is clearly the most sensible

Wednesday, May 10th, 2017 - in order of what's important to understand what today is

and weights too.

followed by Day/Month/Year

It does make some sense that if you generally say something like "May 10, 2017", you would also write 05/10/2017.

and don't forget for the lengths :p

But most of the world says "10 May, 2017".

Old English :P

< Adds "Americanize Puzzling" to running platform >

Make Puzzling Great Again

Rubio is already running on that

I get confused about dates all the time. Are these orange ones okay to eat? Why is there no pit in this one? Stuff like that.

@n_palum Well, someone won an election on that platform already..

When did Puzzling start to become not great?

@Sid Don't remind me

@manshu Clearly when Rubio joined

Except, it was not Puzzling. Something a lot less important :P

This is probably one of the places online where I see the lowest percentage of Americans overall. It really seems to represent a wide swath of the world.

@Mithrandir You can keep your fruity puns mister

Why @Rubio why?

@GentlePurpleRain Totally agree, big reason why I love it :)

Two of our mods are American right now. I'm the only one fighting for the underdog... :P

@n_palum it was better than the alternative

@manshu It's all my fault. Join me in my campaign to Ban Rubio.

^ told you

Ban Rubio we will.

@CalvT okay I'm home for half an hour or so, then I have a cricket match. What did you want to talk about?

@GentlePurpleRain מה עם כל האמיריײקים האלה? נו? איפה כל הישראלים?

@BeastlyGerbil perfect timing - just back from lunch

heh :P

I want to change my puzzle to "My Friends Car" instead of mine

It's for the follow on

@Rubio you haven't nominated yourself yet :P

Means that you'll have to change your answer slightly - just the first line

Ok, so I just need to change my answer to your friends car instead of your car?

Yup

ok, I'll do it now

I've just changed the question

@BeastlyGerbil This could all just be a hype and he isn't running XD

@BeastlyGerbil Cheers. Enjoy cricket :)

Okay, I only had to add on word :P

This has greatly strayed from trying to figure out why the Onion was Admitted

Thanks. And great first puzzle! Very well received too

@n_palum what onion?

My guess for the 4C was ADMONITION which GPR pointed out has ADMIT ONION in it

We think shelter can equal admit, but onion for leak not so much

@n_palum you don't like the '? Or did our edits clash

has @Alonja confirmed either way?

was that really relevant?

@CalvT The edits clashed

He has not confirmed anything

Ok so I'll reject then

ok so we just have to wait for him I guess

You can deny it

oops I accepted

@BeastlyGerbil images like that are always relevant...

@n_palum did @Alconja say anything about whether he was going to nominate himself?

@BeastlyGerbil It still wasn't approved yet, Calv can decline it, nbd

@Mithrandir मेरा नाम जेंटलप्राल्परेन है मुझे यकीन नहीं है कि आप किस व्यक्ति से पूछ रहे हैं ... (Google translate -- no idea if it's accurate)

@BeastlyGerbil I believe he said he is not nominating due to time and availability

ah ok

Wait a minute. That doesn't even look like the same language...

It isn't...

Google told me it was Hindi, so I translated back to Hindi.

... *smacks Google*

Why does Google not recognize Hebrew? O_o

@BeastlyGerbil and Brent withdrew

@n_palum oh why!?

Okay, that's weird. Now it's saying Hebrew. And giving me a totally different translation...

Interpreting the Hebrew as Hindi, the translation was something like, "What is the person's name? Now? What is your name?"

...I'm not really sure how you can interpret Hebrew as Hindi, though...

o_o

@BeastlyGerbil right, they do mess up the grammar.

my translate says "What about all those Americans? Well? Where are all the Israelis?"

It's supposed to say 'What's with all these Americans'

And the other half is correct?

Correct

hey @edderiofer - great puzzle, I enjoyed working on it a lot

Well. Google Translate is correct. :p

@manshu You read Hebrew? Or you're interpreting it as Hindi?

@Mithrandir Hebrew reads from right to left, correct? Does that mean you put the question mark at the beginning of the sentence?

I copied "מה עם כל האמיריײקים האלה? נו? איפה כל הישראלים?" and translated it using google to English.

@GentlePurpleRain no, I put it at the end. But most things don't support that :/

Right. But did you set the language to Hindi first? That's where I got confused. It seems to think it is valid Hindi, but the translation is completely different than the Hebrew.

Hindi and Hebrew don't even share any letters o_O

I know.

No. I didn't select the Hindi language first. I selected that "Detect Language" option.

@Rubio I second that, well at least the bit I helped with :P

@gentle lol. It didn't write "GentlePurpleRain". The translate you used wrote

"GentlePralpRain.

Interesting. Google said, "Did you mean Gentle Purple Rain?" (with spaces). But I said no.

Had you used the spaces, it would have given you literal translation of each word

"Naram Bengani Baarish" :p

Heh, didn't realize that this existed

Google says "sajjan" instead of "naram"

Heh. This is kind of fun: translationparty.com

@Rubio Did you have any favourite clues in the grid?

I loved the "headquarters" one :)

Yeah, so did Deusovi.

I note of course that while my puzzle contains four Caesar-shift clues, those are apparently nonexistent anywhere else (even though you seem to have had little trouble realizing that they were that).

I liked ROAMED too; that took me a while to get, I had a sneaking feeling how it was going to work but I didn't realize "ME" until very late

oh - yeah, I got two straightaway. KEG took a while, I was kinda mad at myself for not getting it :)

Funnily enough, Devjoe commented that his first thought was "Oh, it's an anagram of SETTER, which is... STREET. Hmm."

also, "accidental smart" took forever. and I was almost sure it was going to be a bad clue when I first looked at it.

What, did you think it'd be an anagram of SMART, with no definition?

when I finally got it, it was one of those "oh you clever b---" moments

I won't admit to how much time I spent looking at the grid for MARTS and TRAMS. :)

@GentlePurpleRain That party thing is such a bad translator

Ha. Considering that Deusovi tested it, do you really think he'd overlook a clue without a definition?

Well, no. :)

@n_palum I think that's meant to be the point...

:) I know

Some of my other favourites include TULPA, LIE, ARAB, LEDGES, WREN, SUM, ENDGAME, and ACREAGE.

I made a couple that took a long time for equilibrium

I don't understand how 2 to 8 is BING.

oh TULPA was frustrating. If I hadn't seen it in the grid I would have never solved it.

2 to 8 is "cubing"

@Rubio ^^

CUBING is 2 to 8.

BING is "search".

Yeah, there's definitely some obscure knowledge in here.

Ah. Got it.

(oh, funny note there - there's actually a "cubing" search, that takes place on Copper Mountain.)

LIE, BAP, and possibly ENDGAME, for example.

Anyway, the idea for this puzzle game when I tried out this app by Puzzler Media: puzzler.com/digital-apps/word-puzzles/backwords-puzzler

capturethecube.com

yeah, BAP i didn't know

*hunt puzzle, sorry.

TRAP, I actually laughed at

BAP is definitely a Britishism. If you're outside the UK, you almost certainly won't get it.

I'm a bit embarrassed that I didn't see that everything was a crossword grid, despite the cryptic clues, the answers being only down and across, the grid being symmetrical and having 15 by 15 cells. Anyway, good puzzle.

oh, actually, "NOR" was one of the first clues I solved

TRAP, by the way, is actually (PART)<.

and it's in the grid on a diagonal, if you look for it

oh. yeah, I annotated it PART* by mistake didn't I, I meant <

But in any case, that Puzzler Media app was pretty terrible.

Well < is a subset of *, isn't it?

True, but still...

Wonderful puzzle that. I hadn't actually paid much attention to it since the geniuses were working on it. Now that I see it, That was superb.

so for the first bit I didn't know they were all across/down because I had an early example that wasn't.

Once it became obvious NOR was an outlier I went back and found it vertically

Maybe you didn't spot that it was a crossword because of the way the entries were arranged in the grid?

After all, not many cryptic crosswords tend to have 2x2 squares in them.

And most of them arrange all the entries on alternate lines (which I expressedly wanted to avoid because that would make things REALLY easy).

@Sid I helped and am most certainly not one of the geniuses :)

No, visually, I was in wordsearch mode with words crossed out with a marker pen. So it was black (or colour) on white for me, not vice versa.

(Hell, that's one of the main reasons why the Backwords app isn't one I'd recommend. Not only are all the entries on alternate lines, they couldn't even be bothered to fill in the remainder with stuff that wasn't immediately obviously garbage.)

oh, that was genius. and maddening.

I kept tripping over words thinking "that's GOT to be a solution to something", and they weren't

translationparty.com/will-trump-be-impeached-12965141

So is the app to blame for sending us on a wild chase to fit in WEDDING, AGENT and so on?

That's EXACTLY what I wanted people to do. >:D

Somewhat.

Impeach Trump xD

Then again, that app is responsible for this puzzle anyway.

Fair enough. That almost worked out. Until @n_palum appeared on the scene ...

What'd I do wrong?

Just solve that puzzle, that's all. :)

"That" referring to "getting solvers tripped up over words that were in the grid but were also red herrings".

Thing is, because there's been other puzzles somewhat like this, I was "sure" from the beginning that this was going to be a case where the unused letters in the wordsearch were going to get used for something, so I was strictly in word-search mode for most of it. By the time I realized it was more crossword than word search, I was too far along to feel like redoing the image. fortunately @MOehm did that, and better than I would have

(What nearly worked out was edderiofer's evilploy to add random words to the grid.)

All I did was put a piece or two together

After it had been sitting out there in the open for nearly a day.

Would you rather I had filled the rest of the blanks with Qs, Zs, Xs, and Js?!

No, with an anagram of "NO CIGAR, BACK TO SQUARE ONE".

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

And I started the conversation about it today :p Yay!

(Filling the rest with Qs, Zs and so on would have been a cheap way to make the grid a pangram, though.)

Point is, I feel like in this instance, these red herrings made the puzzle more fun.

@Techidiot Every issue needs someone to address it.

Which isn't something you can say of most red herrings in puzzles.

@MOehm Speaking of... mine is unsolved still!

It's still unsolved here :)

Yes, it is.

As well as on my blog.

Hmm, We have had pretty less number of nominations so far.

Still, reading through the chatlogs, it seems like someone thought I had stolen that puzzle. Pff.

@Rubio Give palum's puzzle as an input parameter to your imgur master snippet :p

Ha! we'll all get t-shirts with "I found the TREASURE of the One-Word-Puzzle" and the redditers and blog readers won't.

I have a reputation to keep, you know.

@Techidiot Wha?

@Sid I'll tell you I wrote up an intro. But I haven't finished the questions. As I've been saying, not sure still

@edderiofer Nope. That's a general practice of checking whether the puzzle belongs to someone else. And hence was confirmed by @Deus

@n_palum Hehe.. Just remember Rubio having a code to brute force imgur's ;)

Well the imgur bit is the easiest part of the puzzle! maybe...

@n_palum So, if you join in, that makes it 7. Rubio is keeping his cards close to his chest. DOn't know if anyone else has showed any interest..

@n_palum Yes, and you can't really give any hints without spoiling which 4.5 of the seven are correct. (I assume e, c, j and Y are the 4.0)

Maybe next time I'll make each cryptic have two answers, and have one set of answers go into one grid and another set of answers go into another grid hidden via imgur...

But maybe I'm getting ahead of myself here.

@BeastlyGerbil Do watch today's terrible run out :p (Rishabh Pant)

@edderiofer You might want to try this one, then.

As I said, "This puzzle ought to provide a good distraction and nothing more. No, this flavourtext really shouldn't give you any hints as to the puzzle's solving path or answer.".

@edderiofer You might like the Cryptic Crossword that (I think Sp3000) had both normal and cryptic clues

Oh yeah! the one Oehm just linked

@Sid Well a lot of people who've joined in already weren't ones that showed interest anywhere else

I'm not the best at solving cryptics however.

Especially not here, where it looks like there's a gimmick involved that makes things harder.

Anyway, time to write up the post-mortem, because that's apparently allowed.

@Techidiot No. That'd be no fun.

would it be at all possible for a mod to investigate this user

I'm getting anomalies trying to find their parent or other contributions

Agreed, something seems to be off.

Don't discuss it publicly, give your flags with reasoning. That is all

I can't flag if I can't find a parent post

Oh true I just realized that.

@n_palum we have been advised not to flag chat messages. And there is no post to flag..

But I would agree in investigating.

Same join times.

@Rubio That was a joke :) @n_palum Will wait for your pencil eyes

That'll be a different puzzle, the current one isn't even solved anyway :P

I seem to remember seeing a post, now deleted, by that user. i'll look in a bit

@n_palum What? I am referring to the eyes you were going to sketch.. :)

I'm going to sketch them for a puzzle now

Oh.. Hehe.. Nice.

@Rubio I don't really wanna say anything else. Can we take action as RO?

I'm not going to, no.

Okay, just checkin.

Yes, @Rubio your memory is right.

Oh, that was the CC I was trying to solve, I didn't because I'm bad at CCs

What CC?

Hmm, yeah, looks like you haven't been discussing the word search for an hour

I suggested adding treat/cooks to improve the surface reading, but I failed to solve the actual clue

:) Almost

@Sid link please?

Postmortem of A Puzzle Whose Answer Is A Single Word is up: puzzling.stackexchange.com/a/51672

I think I may be done with Contact for the day

@Rubio sighs yeah...

Use your new time to do a nomination!

that sounds like a great idea

Rubio for Consul!

I may be writing one...

ah, looks like I'll have to start waking up earlier if I want to catch the morning contact games

@ffao Well, for Rubio, dcfyj (and I think Scon) and I it's early afternoon :)

Apparently I don't count

I thought you were Belo Horizonte? Is that not around 3:30 right now?

I gotchu bud

I was, I moved to Vancouver, BC and didn't update my profile

Don't let that edit fool you! I wasn't in that chat post!

Yeah, it seems there is reasonably often a game that starts aroundish Noon Eastern

Ah so you're in PDT now.. That's quite a change

@dcfyj No one knooows

Partially because I still want it to contain some reference to the fact that I'm Brazilian so I can get away with language mishaps

Good temperate weather though

It's ok ffao, people will understand what you're talking aboot :P

You move for work? Or fun? Or family? or N/A?

work, I don't like the fact that my family is now 6000+ miles away :(

@ffao That's what the internet is for, long distance communication :)

Although, no physical contact can suck for some

That is pretty rough.

I have to decide eventually if I want to search West Coast or other places for work and leave behind the family in the East coast

and the international airports in Canada and Brazil are in Toronto and Sao Paulo, which forces me to take at least 2 stops (and a 30 hour trip in total) to get back to BH

west-to-east coast is just 5 hours, right? that's a lot more reasonable

You can't go through SEA-TAC?

@Rubio Here, this: puzzling.stackexchange.com/questions/51661/…

I can, but I would need to take a 3-hour bus ride with luggage to get to sea-tac and go through immigration in the way

and of course, from Sea-Tac I would need to take yet another flight to LA, Dallas, Atlanta, or somewhere else that actually connects to Brazil

Being away from family sucks especially if they are so far away..

I am living like 350km away from home and yet I still suffer from homesickness occasionally.

my university was 600km away from home, whenever I suffered from homesickness I took a bus Friday night and came back Sunday evening

might be an option for you

@ffao I get tired by travelling too much. So, I don't prefer to travel.

@Social Sorry? Why for what>

and @ffao I occasionally have classes on saturday as well..

classes on Saturday? that's criminal

@Social No. My hometown didn't have schools for 11th and 12th grade. So, I had to move to the state capital for further studies.

@ffao it was 6 to 4 on saturdays..

is there any purpose to classes on sat? is it to study for university entry exams?

Some cultures have classes on 6 days a week (like Japan for example)

Well, yeah, but it is normal to have classes 6 days a week.

@Sid The US and Canada only have them 5 days a week

I know my university has occasional Saturday classes - but those were often for tests, with a few exceptions

Well, Yes, my saturday classes usually comprised of a subjective test, an objective test and some subject lessons which nobody cared about.

yes, I only had classes 5 days a week as well, except for the last grade in which we had mock tests every Saturday

Because I'm slightly insane I actually like math tests, so I didn't mind

@Sid thanks, I had found it already.

@SocialBaloney I think I have already seen that video an year ago :p

No I haven't

@Sconibulus everything is fine

I am imagining Gandalf patting Scon on the head saying "there there"

That is much less fun than Gandalf

*eyeroll*

oh right, I forgot that was a thing :)

→ 1 message moved to This room is not fine

lol

lol

You only have yourself to blame @Mithrandir

flagged

I couldn't resist :P

Oh my

?

That room

What about it?

I created it for Winter Bash.

Yup, like I said, he only has himself to blame :P

I went in and the first thing was this is fine pins galore

I thought you had seen a ghost. Calm down now.

:p

Well yeah, what did you expect? :P

everything will be fine n_palum

I was not sure, that's why I peeked

The pinned posts you talking about? This is fine.

Ba dum tish.

Y'all got jokes now

some fine jokes we have in this room

@ffao for example?

^^

Honestly most of the pin board tends to be jokes

This one got the most stars (on the first page of starred posts of TSL):

Our starboard is certainly a fine-grained selection of jokes

The smacks Google thing got me

I again imagined Gandalf hitting the Google CEO with his staff

...I would so PhotoShop something, but I'm on mobile :(

Poor guy

@Mithrandir How do you move a message to another room? I've never been able to figure that out...

@GentlePurpleRain @Mithrandir Also, I swear in Arqade room owners can do it too, is that true?

@MOehm earlier you asked what 4.5/7 were right on my puzzle but it's actually 3.5, one of the ones you listed as being right isn't. I miscounted