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12:00 AM
Clearly it's Dogdog, the famous Persian poodle.
 
uh
did you make that up or are you being serious
 
I made it up.
 
i didn't see a wikipedia page for dogdog
 
... and that is correct!
 
12:01 AM
ok wen1now are you being serious?
dogs is a verb maybe?
 
No, that's why it's strikethroughed
 
@DestructibleLemon DL, you're too easy to troll.
 
no
u
i knew they probably weren't but i needed to be sure
how is two dogs also a poodle
 
I might give a hint at some point, eventually.
 
In politics, "poodle" is an insult used to describe a politician who obediently or passively follows the lead of others. It is considered to be equivalent to lackey. Usage of the term is thought to relate to the passive and obedient nature of the type of dog. In June 2001, Colette Avital unsuccessfully tried to have the term's use banned from the Knesset. During the 2000s, it was used against Tony Blair, in regard to his close relationship with George W. Bush, and the actions surrounding Iraq. In July 2002, singer George Michael infamously used it in his song "Shoot the Dog", the video of which...
Relevant?
 
12:05 AM
yeah i saw that i guess
uh
 
Now if LAC and KEY were dogs, we'd be done.
 
wouldn't happen to be lackey? @Wen1now
 
Let's try to come up with a good explanation for a solution, rather than just guessing words and firing them at the OP.
 
You still need to explain the wordplay...
(what I mean by that is I'll only confirm/deny if there's a reasonable wordplay explanation)
 
uh
> In July 2002, singer George Michael infamously used it in his song "Shoot the Dog"
uh
2002 shoot the dog
not really but whatever
 
12:08 AM
That doesn't seem right for some reason
 
don't mock me
uh
pugelo is two dog breed names together
@Wen1now can't imagine why
elo is some of the letters in poodle but i don't think pod or dop are dogs
 
I'm pretty sure Pluto is a dog... right?
 
uh yeah
is this a red herring or sonething
 
@Wen1now So it stopped being a planet and became a dog?
Sounds like quite the demotion.
 
12:14 AM
this is an unreasonably difficult clue
 
I'm just trying the 'match dogs to poodle' game, and pluto has 3 letters in common.
 
is this a cryptic troll?
is there a shorter word for poodle?
 
@DestructibleLemon This is difficult? It hasn't even lasted an hour yet.
Jan 13 at 22:21, by Rand al'Thor
Nov 4 '16 at 13:14, by Rand al'Thor
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unreasonably difficult for 4 words
that seem rather well related
like the other ones took a long time, but i wouldn't have said that
 
Okay I'll stop trolling and post an actual clue:
CCCC: Two dogs; a poodle (6)
 
12:17 AM
>_>
 
Oh wait it's the same one, nevermind
 
Which one to pin?
You've hidden extra info in there, haven't you.
(I like your sense of humour, btw.)
 
No, it's exactly the same...
Well, it should be
 
used cmd-f, it's the same
 
Hmm it’s not bolder
clue?
 
12:31 AM
@thecoder16 Two dogs; a poodle
(6)
does that help?
 
No, I mean the clue isn’t bold above
The only thing that is diffrent
the cccx isnt bold
 
PUP+PET? Though, the second could use a category indicator.
 
Ooh.
How does the def work though?
 
nice
no, one sense poodle = one sense of puppet
poodle = lackey, politician following another authority
 
Ahh.
 
12:42 AM
puppet: someone controlled by another authority
 
Nice one @Apep!
 
good work!
@Wen1now confirm
not again
 
@DestructibleLemon don’t expect people to be on 24/7
 
but I'm impatient
 
Lol I hope I don’t have to interview you
 
12:50 AM
Feb 2 at 15:19, by Rand al'Thor
in The Reading Room, Jan 22 at 17:43, by Rand al'Thor
in Mos Eisley, Jan 10 at 19:10, by Rand al'Thor
Sep 15 '16 at 20:22, by Rand al'Thor
yesterday, by Rand al'Thor
5 hours ago, by Rand al'Thor
Patience, my young padawan.
 
Quoted generations upon feberauons
 
do you take joy in making quote pyramids?
 
Who wouldnt
31 secs ago, by thecoder16
Who wouldnt
 
18 secs ago, by thecoder16
31 secs ago, by thecoder16
Who wouldnt
26 secs ago, by thecoder16
18 secs ago, by thecoder16
31 secs ago, by thecoder16
Who wouldnt
 
12:52 AM
@DestructibleLemon Not usually, but in this case I wanted some indication of just how many times I've said that.
 
@thecoder16 trash
 
Now someone quote that a few days from now
 
what is the consensus on assuming you guessed a cccc correctly?
 
Do you mean if this guess was correct, or what the general protocol is for such a case?
 
I mean, it seems like you guessed correctly, so are you able to post a clue now?
 
12:57 AM
Oh sorry
 
Don’t apologize
 
PUPPET is correct
 
dont encourage the kmpatience
 
i was mostly saying not again because it happened again
 
I apologize in advance for this one.
 
12:57 AM
oh ok
 
Oh no
 
@Wen1now don't need to apologise
 
It's just, there's a 'no laptops during breaks' rule
 
wait wen what time zone are you jn
 
CCCC: Resort's rotten hut is homage. (12)
 
12:59 AM
oh no
 
Anyway thanks deus for the inspriation for that one
UTC+10.00 I think
 
the potential for rot10 is always scary
 
@Wen1now 😡 that is a dumb rule
 
rot10(hut) = red
 
rotten hut = red
i got ninja'd
 
1:00 AM
Is this a movie Terence
 
Jinx!
 
reference
if feels like one
it
 
@thecoder16 no
 
How do you no
 
1:00 AM
Resort's red is homage
what is resort's red
 
In the spirit of PPCG, Try it online! (but not on TIO)
 
No I meant resorts red
bog rotten hut
Not
 
what if rot10 is a red herring
 
Nice one
this wouldn’t have anything to do with this, would it
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Q: Why does HTML think “chucknorris” is a color?

user456584How come certain random strings produce colors when entered as background colors in HTML? For example: <body bgcolor="chucknorris"> test </body> ...produces a document with a red background across all browsers and platforms. Interestingly, while chucknorri produces a red background a...

 
"commendation" is 12 letters ...
 
1:03 AM
is there anything special about possessives in ccccs?
 
Well
they are usually there to make the sentence make sense
not much else
 
resort = re-sort = anagram?
 
But there’s only 3 letters to anagram so fa
wbile the answer is 12
 
s rotten hut is?
 
srottenhutis doesn't seem to have any good anagrams.
 
1:06 AM
There are no indirect anagrams in this clue, as per the standards.
 
dang ccccs
red is homage = resort?
is resort the definition?
 
I'm sorry guys, 12 letters is just too much for me to handle :/
 
wait til you find out about the alphabet
 
Sane
wait till you try hinese
chinese
 
wo bu zhi dao
wo bu zhi dao how to say anything else
 
1:16 AM
relatable
 
RED+IS+TRIBUTE
= RE-SORT
 
OOOH
Nice.
 
nice
i sort of helped
 
@stacksfiller correct
 
Nice
I don't know if I should do actual work, try to solve c4s or make back-up c4s
 
1:19 AM
uh work sucks
 
(making one now. i had two prepped but posted them both already!)
 
Okay, making back-ups it is
 
@stacksfiller Guess you're just too good at solving.
 
okay sure this is good enough
CCCC: Abbreviated reply to daughter at university at present date (7)
 
1:34 AM
> In radiocarbon dating, the "present" is defined as AD 1950.
huh
 
RE+D+U+CE+D
 
yeah
 
Wow, that was fast.
 
CCCC: An hour in a convention is a minute out of time (11)
I'll just say this now: the definition may not be 100% valid
 
1:36 AM
time is the definition?
 
"out of time" could be some synonym of late.
 
yeah
every word i come up with is like 8 letters or something
 
@Wen1now AN+AC(HR)ON+IS+M
 
Correct!
 
1:46 AM
a con
 
Convention -> CON
 
yup
gotcha
 
CCCC: His grand integer ruined his conclusion (9)
 
um
great integer
which is the word play and which is the def
 
1:55 AM
hmm actually I think this edited version is better
 
whomsts?
the first grand integer i think of is graham's
 
ruined is an anagrind right
 
oh
which is the definition!
 
@Wen1now "out of time" suggests an adjective (so ANACHRONISTIC) to me, otherwise it's not too far off as a def
 
huh?
@Sp3000 Okay, that actually makes more sense than what I had
A lot more sense...
 
2:15 AM
@Doorknob (G+INTEGER+[hi]S)* = GREETINGS
 
not sure about that [hi]s?
 
@Sp3000 anagram's only on "integer," but yep!
 
What'd the def?
 
Ohhhh
 
2:16 AM
= Hi's with grocers apostrophe
i get it now
 
Oh right, just sort of mixed them all
 
That was pretty cool
 
shoulda maybe had a question mark?
 
CCCC: Kind of cheap seat Spooner says puffs oxygen, e.g. (9)
 
What is the e.g doing...?
 
2:21 AM
i would like to know too
 
normally it signifies that something is an example of the what it clues
 
what's a word for breathing that starts with ch
 
so "oxygen, e.g." might clue any of GAS, MOLECULE, ATOM
(assuming that's the correct parsing)
 
Could also be ELEMENT or practically anything else
Could that be a def though?
as in 'puffs oxygen' -> Breathing is a def?
 
it could be "puffs oxygen, e.g." as a def
 
2:32 AM
Oops... that was what I meant
 
NOSEBLEED Spoonerism/homophone of [bl]ows [n]eed
 
@Sp3000 confirmation?
 
Yup that's it
 
CCCC: Solid body of water noise (5)
 
If it were just 'Solid noise (5)' then that'd be SOUND (ddef)
 
2:46 AM
hmm...
 
3:08 AM
@Wen1now (@Apep) So, I think it's SOUND (tdef)
 
@boboquack It is
 
Does that mean Wen gets it or I get it? Wen solved the conventional part.
 
I don't know.
 
I dunno... do you have a clue ready?
 
@Wen1now no, but I could make one quickly
 
3:17 AM
Okay, I guess whoever makes one first then
Which will probably be you...
 
3:30 AM
ooh, fun clue
 
CCCC: Spice a cashew, for example, with either end of a mushroom, for example (6)
 
NUT + M + EG
 
Lots of fun clues
His as a definition is so evil
 
goddamnit deus
i have a fun clue if i can ever figure out these clues
 
CCCC: Chuck and expelled actors totalled shed project with plaster (4)
 
3:42 AM
i don't know where to begin...
anyone also wanna play spyfall?
 
@ffao thanks, I try :)
 
hey guys, i am creating a riddle for a friend. do you know an analog way so he can check if he got it right without giving the real answer away if he got it wrong?
 
hashes?
except not analog
basically...
they tell you what they think it is and you say if it's right
 
yes, but i wont be there when they do the riddle
 
uh... get a lock with letters instead of numbers
if the answer is short enough
also that gives additional info too... maybe not ideal?
 
3:45 AM
yeah... but something like that
 
@Tweakimp why does it have to be analog
 
does it have to be analog
@ASCII-only ninja'd again
 
@DestructibleLemon but i posted 1s before you did according to my laptop
 
I can't reply to myself easily
 
well, i will put it on paper, and it should be solved on paper. i was hoping you guys had a nice idea.
 
3:47 AM
@DestructibleLemon then get SOX
 
the lock sounds good, but gives away the length of the password
 
@Tweakimp not necessarily
 
buy multiple locks?
 
@ASCII-only what do you think of? :)
 
3:47 AM
but the thing is how would you even get a lock like that
 
well i could buy a standard number lock with 4 numbers and give a rule how to convert the password into a number
 
What does analog mean
 
not digital, not using computers or anything electronical
 
@Deusovi I have two answers it might be but no clue to the logic though
 
well, you should explain at least part of the logic
 
3:50 AM
yeah
I was just venting frustration
expelled = removed
 
@Tweakimp there's no easy way. but you could make do with a sort of analog hash i guess?
 
no clue if that's relevant
 
...the answer is 4 letters
 
i know
I'm just saying connections and possibilities that the answer might come from partly
i do that sometimes
then when someone solves it I can say "I helped sort of"
 
@ASCII-only can you explain? do you mean i give the md5 hash for the soultion string so that one can verify with a generator on his own?
 
3:53 AM
@DestructibleLemon ...
 
seriously though i'm stumped with this clue
@ASCII-only …
 
@Tweakimp e.g. a grid, each letter converts to one of four (or 3/6) directions and you give the final coordinate
not 100% foolproof though
 
well, no hash is
 
*not very foolproof
 
4:22 AM
They do sell 5-letter locks
Or use the answer as a vigenere key for a short ciphertext
or if you want it less obvious use a Playfair square so its not just Caesar shifting
 
@Aranlyde I think that the idea of a key to decipher something as the riddle answer is very good
 
4:39 AM
If you have Web hosting you could also do yourserver.com/{answer}.html
That will make it obvious if it's correct
 
Sid
4:54 AM
Probably this C4 has way too much removal or something like that.
(And His is terribly evil. Like Has for Snickers)
 
oh yeah, that was a fun clue to write
 
5:26 AM
@Deusovi septuple-def for CAST
Seriously, wth
 
@Ankoganit :D
 
CCCC: Feel me, teacher (6)
 
... septuple? :o
 
...unless I miscounted
 
yup, septuple
 
5:30 AM
I'd never believe that's even possible if I hadn't seen this
 
chuck (throw, not a name)
expelled
actors
totalled (summed, not wrecked)
shed
project (emit, not task)
plaster (medical tool like a bandage, not drywall)
 
5:42 AM
never heard of shed cast
@Ankoganit >_>
 
it can be in the sense of snakes shedding their skins, for instance - you can say they cast them
but you should've gotten it from the other six definitions :P
 
Sid
6:43 AM
@Ankoganit that is SENSE+I
Also, @deus What the....
That is some next-level stuff there...
 
@Sid i figured it out while i was afk 😡
 
Sid
Assuming I am correct, I am going to post the next C4. Now, here's the thing. I didn't frame this clue. I just saw it on the internet and loved it. So, I first need confirmation on whether I am allowed to post a clue which isn't my own.
 
6:59 AM
It's definitely breaking with tradition, but I'm not convinced that matters too much for a chat game... maybe just [provide some sort of attribution] after the enumeration?
 
Sid
@Alconja I hoped to, after it is Solved...
 
Fair enough. Though maybe flag it as requiring attribution when you post it so that whoever updates the archive knows to go hunting for your later message: "CC: blah (3) [not mine, attribution coming after it's solved]"
 
It's not unprecedented, at least
 
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Q: We have an important mission for you

Beastly GerbilYou are an agent working for your country's intelligence services. Recently you received a tip off about a meeting that will be held by a Secret Society who poses a threat. Sure enough, a few days later you intercepted the following letter and detained one of the members: To the member this ...

 
7:17 AM
Can someone remove the old c4?
 
Sid
Well, "First letters" don't give anything helpful to me.
CCCC: Lie with young lady on top (8) [Not mine. Attribution after this is solved]
 
keep trying ;)
 
Sid
and I don't understand DICATOR. Is that even a word?
(And that diary page is weird. Because, if you look, the P in Paris seems to be bold but it's not in the google doc thing)
 
@Sid is it cheating to look it up?
 
0
Q: 3 cannibals and 3 missionaries on different side of the river

Jamal SenjayaThree missionaries on the left side of a river and three cannibals on the right side of the river want to cross a river using a boat which can carry at most two people, The boat is on the cannibals side. Under the constraint that, for both banks, if there are missionaries present on the bank, the...

 
Sid
7:28 AM
@DestructibleLemon Well, yeah. I mean, it's not at all fun if you just look it up.
You can, if you really want. But, I don't recommend doing so
 
Hmmm
i do want a chance to make a cccc
young lady on top
is the word play i guess
 
@Sid yup (sorry for the delay)
 
Sid
7:48 AM
Okay... I am stupid. Sorry, @BeastlyGerbil :P
 
Oh, I've seen this one too, but the definition isn't entirely accurate
 
Don’t worry :P
Good first observations. There is A LOT more left though
 
Sid
@ffao True but the surface reading is too good to compromise a bit on def.
Hmm, interestingly all the names seem to be exactly Nine letters long
 
8:05 AM
Very interesting indeed :)
 
@Sid honestly not sure if I want to
 
8:48 AM
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Q: Is it possible to build this out of soma cube parts?

TweakimpFor those of you who dont know, these are soma cube parts: They can be assembled into a 3x3x3 cube. Is it possible to build a hollow cube with the extra little cube being on top, in the middle of the 3x3x3 cube? (So that it looks like you took the middle little cube that can not be seen in the ...

 
9:38 AM
@Sid I think it's MISSPEAK (MISS+PEAK)
 
9:49 AM
how would the definition work?
 
I suppose lying is a form of misspeaking? not a complete match though
 
2 hours ago, by ffao
Oh, I've seen this one too, but the definition isn't entirely accurate
 
well I'll take that as some sort of confirmation
CCCC: Crumpled score encases very soft coins (7)
 
10:06 AM
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Q: Taking a ball from basket challenge

Jamal SenjayaI have 10 red balls, 10 blue balls, and 2 baskets. You are free to choose the numbers of red balls, and the numbers of blue balls to put to the first basket. Then you have to put rest of the balls to the 2nd basket. Then I will choose a basket and take a ball blindly. If I get a red ball I wil...

 
10:37 AM
so... the definition was misspoken, by the definition of itself?
 
Sid
10:54 AM
MISSPEAK is indeed correct.
Now, that clue was taken from The Guardian in 26th June, 2017 (I think)
 
11:07 AM
It's quite common for politicians caught lying to say that they misspoke, in the hope that they'll give the impression that they weren't deliberately trying to mislead. I wonder whether there was an instance of that in UK politics shortly before that crossword was published.
@Volatility CO(PP)ERS
 
COPPERS is correct
 
Anyone disagree with my view that the latest question announced by the Sphinx above is a dupe of this one puzzling.stackexchange.com/questions/1953/… ?
 
looks like the only differences are the numbers and the stakes.. so practically the same
 
Sid
@GarethMcCaughan Well, Politicians lie everywhere.
 
"Politicians lie. Cast iron sinks. Therefore, politicians lie in cast iron sinks."
 
Sid
11:17 AM
@Beastly only the location to find out in your puzzle...
(and writing that letter was an outstanding job.)
 
11:28 AM
CCCC: Lawmaker pokes into my city pub (6)
 
0
Q: The next term is?

Andrew NeateA sequence of integers between 1 and 10 is as follows: 5, 8, 1, 0, 1, 8, 6, 2, 4, ? What is the next term?

 
Sid
@Gareth I have a half-hearted attempt but it relies on you being way too evil and probably unfair as well. Do I need to take that assumption?
 
@Sid Assuming I'm evil is never a very bad strategy. I don't think this clue is particularly evil or unfair, but who knows? your idea of evil and unfair might differ from mine.
 
Sid
Okay, here's my attempt. SALOON? - (SOLON)* containing A(my=I=A (which is my theory of Gareth being evil)) Def=City Pub
 
Ah, I see. No, I wouldn't be that kind of evil, and SALOON is not the answer.
Also, I don't do indirect anagrams.
 
11:51 AM
0
Q: Is it possible to pack the tetrominoes exactly on the checkboard?

Abdul Malek AltawekjiI have this as an exercise but I'm not sure what's the best way to approach it. I've tried the pack them but wasn't able to do so. I see that having them combined will yield in 10 whites and 10 blacks ( because every piece will cover 2 blacks and 2 whites) which is exactly the chessboard but not ...

 
12:11 PM
Guys, I have a question, If I remove my account all questions and answer that I have posted deleted as well?
 
They stay, but the name would be changed to "user18514" and you would no longer have a profile page.
Why do you ask?
 
okay then :) glad to know they are not being removed as well. I am leaving the forum, Thanks for everything, I learnt thousands things, I may even follow only. Just going to delete my account since I am not going to answer or post any more.
 
12:49 PM
@Oray I hope you'll reconsider.
 
@Sid yep but a lot has been missed
 
Oh why?
 
Sid
@BeastlyGerbil I think if we plot those points on a map, we will get a cross or something like that...
 
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