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9:00 AM
@TheGreatEscaper Yes, and there was another reddit post where another user posted the same question but never gave the answer. I doubt there is an answer anyway
 
#4
 
@Rubio I only see one solution...?
 
maybe I'm dumb :)
 
Do you have 2 or more solutions right now?
 
Yeah I'm only seeing the one
 
9:01 AM
Ok, just got set 1
 
oh no, counting - my only weakness
4
 
Haha sorry Deus. It becomes a lot less important later on anyway.
 
so yeah I guess I don't get this then.
 
You look like you do.
 
not set 3
 
9:05 AM
Yeah, #4 in set 3 definitely has only 1 solution
 
Yeah because that one thingy has to be with one other thingy but there's a different thingy in the way
 
...and set 2. This is fun!
 
^
 
>:D things will start to get evil very soon.
 
Hm. Maybe I just made a bad assumption. Are you not filling in empty spaces then? Just doing the same single mechanic?
 
9:08 AM
Yeah no don't go changing things
 
Nothing much changes till set 4
 
ah. well, that would explain it.
see, I told you I was dumb :)
 
Even then, set 4 is pretty similar to the everything before it.
 
Now I'm kinda curious what you were doing
 
^
 
9:09 AM
Just got to set 4. Damn, that's clever.
 
who me? (*whistles innocently*)
nothing to see here
 
@Deusovi :D Things will get even better, I promise. Hehe
 
just got set 3 as well
 
Nice @Volatility !
 
4.4 reminds me of another puzzle type.
 
9:12 AM
Yup :)
It's a bit of a tribute.
Set 5 is where things pick up.
 
Starting set 5!
Ooooh.
 
@TheGreatEscaper your puzzle is released?
 
Welp.
I'm on 5.4 and I have no idea what to do.
 
Haha, time for me to dominate
too bad I can't release until you guys get to set 6 :/
 
9:17 AM
Not gonna happen, @TrojanByAccident - I'm already 5 sets in, and several others are around there too
 
@TrojanByAccident I believe Deusovi has already passed the point that I tested up to for you.
 
I'm lost on 4.3 -.-
 
ah right, you testsolved
 
Only sets 1-4 for Trojan.
I kept the majority of the solving outside of PSE.
 
9:17 AM
4.3 was a good one.
You're making an assumption that you shouldn't be.
 
4.2 and 4.3 are a really cute pair of puzzles in my opinion :D
They seem so damn similar
 
Yeah!
 
Oh, I see
 
Wait. Maybe I wasn't doing 5.3 right.
Yeah, my assumption gave it multiple solutions.
 
...wait, but doesn't that give multiple solutions for 4.3?
 
9:20 AM
:( Everyone's rushing ahead and I've only got step 1 (I think)
 
It shouldn't, @Volatility. I got one solution.
 
Oh right
 
...Huh, my assumption gives 5.2 two solutions as well.
 
@Deusovi the actual graphic could help a bit.
 
The inscriptions are no different from the others, right?
 
9:23 AM
The inscriptions are unsolvable until the end, presumably.
 
Wait, I think I know what section 5 is doing.
 
:D ????
 
Hold on, let me check to see if this works.
 
9:25 AM
Set 4 was cool & now I am actually leaving
 
@Volatility Don't give hints!
 
It gets better, Will.
 
That's cheeky
 
4.5? I don't see how it's any different from the previous ones.
 
9:26 AM
AK the reincarnation
(removed)
 
Stop.
 
I had a false assumption
 
It's annoying when your computer is so slow that you can't actually do anything
 
AK the (removed) ?
 
Wait really, Vol? I thought 4.3 would've dispelled that assumption
 
9:27 AM
I'm stuck on 4.3 myself.
 
There are no 'special cases' in this. Every puzzle behaves exactly the same way.
 
I thought you were talking about a different assumption (one that didn't make much sense not to be an assumption, to be honest)
I just got what you meant
 
Rubio, then you're making an unwarranted assumption.
 
and having just noticed what Volatility noticed for 4.5 I know I'm lost.
@Deusovi I think the unwarranted assumption is that I'm capable of doing these at 3:30am, if indeed at all :)
 
@Rubio EVERY puzzle, even in different sets, plays by the same rules.
Nothing ever changes, from set to set.
 
9:28 AM
Okay, two unwarranted assumptions. (Also hey, we're in the same timezone!)
 
Ok, just got set 4
 
Cool, you've caught up to me. I've got an idea for set 5, and I'm trying to make it work
 
@TheGreatEscaper welp. my initial assumption is memorialized in my partial answer posting - which nobody else has done any of, making me a little sad
and it's evidently close but not correct :)
 
No, @Rubio, this puzzle has been designed to throw things out the window
 
^
Yep, that's the whole point.
 
9:30 AM
I think if anyone DIDN'T solve sets 1-3 the way you did
I'd be very surprised
 
I just need to do that last puzzle on 4
 
@Deusovi set 5 got very mixed solve-experiences. The first two testers got it very quickly, leading me to think it wasn't very difficult, but then others found it to be a total roadblock.
 
Yeah, my assumption doesn't seem to be working for 5.1.
 
What does the graphic make you think of?
Actually.
This is probably spoiler territory.
 
Yeah, give me time.
 
9:36 AM
@TheGreatEscaper AK (removed) the post then
 
@boboquack STOP.
This is your final warning.
 
@TheGreatEscaper I... don't follow your comment
 
hey @incesterror21 !
 
I thought I was just adding on.
 
Gah, this is tough. Any luck, @Volatility?
 
9:39 AM
No, I mean in the future.
@Rubio
 
@Deusovi Nope :/
 
oh.
Oh! Yeah I got your point, sorry. I'm slow :)
 
Arg, I'm stuck on 4 e.e
skipping it for now
 
NO.
No skipping. >:c
 
watch me
 
9:40 AM
D:
 
actually, please don't watch me, that's creepy
 
OK. But looking ahead of where anyone has gotten up to will be a disqualification from solving AND discussing...
 
@Deusovi Speak of the devil! Look who's arrived!
And left just as I posted
And arrived again
And left
 
@TheGreatEscaper why?
 
@TrojanByAccident The whole point is the process of discovery.
 
9:42 AM
I know
I don't have patience, though
 
Well, too bad.
 
Sid
@TheGreatEscaper i finally understand your puzzle. And I have solved the first 2. The rules remain the same, I presuy?
 
damn. 4.4 took way longer to figure out how to do than it should have. hehe
 
Sid
*presume
 
@Sid The rules always remain the same. All that changes is your knowledge of them.
 
9:44 AM
4.4 was nice
 
it's annoying
it's like trying to lick your elbow, and you stick your tongue out, and you can't get it no matter how hard you try
 
4.5 was a cakewalk after that
 
...I didn't find 4.4 to be too bad.
 
I can't even get 4.2 and 4.3, so don't mind me
 
i knew how, i just didn't know how :)
i was tempted to not break my mother's back
 
9:46 AM
Wait, you can't get 4.2 and 4.3, but you got 4.1?
Are you sure you got 4.1?
SPOILERS.
BAD.
( :P )
 
Interesting strategy though! Can you see if that works for other puzzles too?
 
@Deusovi No, I'm not. the way I solved it didn't conform pretty much at all with how I solved the others
better now?
 
Actually, I'd say the solution is pretty similar.
Not entirely the same, but similar nonetheless.
 
and as a matter of fact, I know that it works for one of them, simply because I remember the number of dots
 
9:49 AM
That doesn't mean it'll work.
 
maybe not
 
All solutions are unique.
 
@Rubio Your 3.2 is a little off I guess?
 
Rubio, I was intentionally not posting partial answers to not spoil things.
Give it time.
And yes, your 3.2 is wrong.
Aha!
 
oops. I had erased it and redid it wrong obviously
 
Sid
9:51 AM
You need to go to the right.
 
@Emrakul what's with the deletion of puzzling.stackexchange.com/a/30402/11516 I don't understand how you can say "can't understand how this answer connects to the question?" when it gives the answer and is written in the form that is the answer.
 
Sid
Arrgh. I am stuck in 4.1
 
Anyway, I'd recommend deleting your answer for now. You can still edit it, but nobody can see it unless they have 10k+.
I've figured out the trick to 5.
 
:D the graphic is quite accurate, no?
 
@Deusovi I haven't :(
 
9:53 AM
It gave me the opposite impression at first.
Well, in a sense of "opposite".
 
There was one false interpretation that popped up a lot, but it doesn't sound like yours. Interesting! Could you discord me your initial thoughts?
 
Oh, the fake interpretation was definitely mine at first.
 
4.4 was honestly rather easy
the only one in 4 i'm stuck on now is 4.3
I did 4.5
 
Wait, you got 4.5 but not 4.3?
 
fixed 3.2, and deleted the post for now
 
Sid
10:00 AM
Okay, I am stuck on everything of 4. So, I should probably give up.
 
@Deusovi yes
 
@Sid No, don't give up!
On 4, you've made an assumption that you shouldn't have.
(Well, in general. After all, the rules are always the same.)
 
@Deusovi SPOILERS! BAD
 
I haven't spoiled anything.
 
You're spoiling that he should have made an assumption at all
 
10:03 AM
Well, everyone makes assumptions. You kinda have to to solve the puzzles.
shhhh
But yes, that is interesting, isn't it?
 
Jeez
within a couple seconds
 
Sid
Wait, that was a spoiler?
 
Look what you did @Deusovi, you gave him the answer!
 
Anything relating to the solving method is a spoiler.
Some people here haven't even done the first set.
I've been speaking cryptically (in the sense of obscurity, not in the sense of cryptic clues) for that reason.
 
Since one of my puzzle was mentioned here, I had to answer. The website I included at the end of my answer is pretty cool if you like mazes, check it out
 
10:04 AM
SPOILER! Solving requires logic
 
Oh yeah, Clickmazes is great!
 
@TrojanByAccident you just spoiled the whole PSE for me
 
@TrojanByAccident wait, WHAT?!
I've been doing these all wrong. man
 
Oh no, what happened to Rubios answer? I thought that was fun.
 
Oh, I thought I was just supposed to print them out and make origami cranes. Wow, I've been doing it all wrong.
 
10:05 AM
Oh yeah, and you have to deduce stuff from the grid
 
He's deleted it because of spoilers. It can be undeleted if necessary.
 
@Deusovi, damn! I was going for origami roses, but hey.
 
(Deletion on SE is almost never permanent.)
 
Its fine :) I think it's probably best not to have any spoilers on that page for now.
 
Wow, much leet
 
10:07 AM
?
 
I managed to go back to a previous version of the page where it's still accessible
 
Probably browser caching.
 
gahh. i thought i had 5, until 5.4
 
Yep, same here.
 
Sid
10:08 AM
I think I finally got 4.1
 
(*shakes fist*)
 
I'm pretty sure that was intentional.
 
I was *sure* too :)
this is entirely too fun.
 
Aha!
 
curse you @TheGreatEscaper - I was gonna go to bed and everything
 
10:08 AM
I think I've actually got 5 now.
 
@Deusovi I was worried you had already gotten 6 :P
 
...Or not.
 
heh.
I glanced over at 5.5
any fleeting thought I had any ideas went out the window
 
There are at least three fake interpretations in the early stages of 5. At least, that I found.
 
I only came up with one, which worked up to 5.4 and then died in shrieks of endless pain
 
10:12 AM
Two of mine have done that.
The third died on 5.3.
 
I've got a suspicion as to what it might represent, but have no idea how it's supposed to work
 
I almost always wait for a puzzle to be solved to +1 it - this is one of my rare exceptions. @TheGreatEscaper this is awesome. brain-wrenching, but awesome.
 
I swear to god, someday I'm going to rickroll you all and you won't even know it
 
Sid
@Rubio agreed on that. And fun too. Hell, I have given up my usual siesta for this
 
I'm going to see those two hollow shapes staring out at me all night, even as I sleep, like the blank stare of some demonic figure.
 
10:17 AM
I believe I know what the white ones are
 
 
although you guys have probably already thought of these
 
staring.
 
Does it work for 5.4, @TrojanByAccident? If not, then go back to the drawing board.
 
endlessly.
 
10:17 AM
Hehe @Rubio :D
 
into your soul.
 
Salut @IAmInPLS
 
5.4 is where ideas go to die.
 
Yes. Yes, it is.
It's ... the Bermuda Triangle. Only it's more oblong shaped, strangely.
 
@incesterror21 So, what's her name :-P?
 
10:19 AM
That shall be my little secret!
 
Violet. duh. :)
 
FUCK YES I GOT IT
5
 
Well bugger
 
Let me say that her name is not "Violet"
 
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10:24 AM
wow. That may be the first f-bomb I've seen from Deusovi ever. :)
actually the first one in this chat I've ever seen for that matter
 
Sorry, I was excited. :P
 
and now I'm deeply curious what the trick is. hehe
ok kids, let's not star that post ;)
 
lol
 
Profanity is allowed.
 
(I am quite tempted to pin it though muahahaa)
 
10:27 AM
If anything, I'm happy my puzzle could cause that sort of a reaction :P
 
Now stuck on 6.1.
 
oh. god. they go to set 12.
 
Yep!
 
And you're not going to quit until you're done, are you.
Oh, to be a student again. :)
 
I mean, I do have to be in class in 5 and a half hours.
But I don't plan to take breaks until then, and maybe not even then :P
 
10:31 AM
I had weeks in college that were 4 "days" long. I'm not quite up to that anymore, alas.
 
@Rubio you think set 12 is the end of this game I'm playing? Hehehehehe.
Definitely do not click any links that come after set 12.
until you've solved set 12, that is.
 
Man, that "mountain climbing" story feels pretty accurate as a metaphor.
 
Indeed.
 
(And I mean that in a good way.)
 
10:35 AM
The plodding, the exertion, the exhilaration :)
 
anyone at set 6 yet?
 
Deus is
 
I'm sidelined at 5.4, awaiting inspiration
(well technically I'm sidelined at 5.1)
 
same
What I thought worked for 5.1 doesn't for 5.4
 
10:37 AM
5.4 is where theories go to be mercilessly slaughtered.
 
19 mins ago, by Deusovi
5.4 is where ideas go to die.
 
Yeah, I know I said that.
"Mercilessly slaughtered" is definitely better though.
 
It's not an accident that 5.4 is causing you all so much pain :P
 
It's for their own good. :)
 
My ideas have all died at 5.1, 5.2, or 5.5 ???
 
10:40 AM
Ok - next to be mercilessly slaughtered? Now taking votes. (1) is Will's CCCC privileges. (2) is @TheGreatEscaper, on principles.
 
Wow, really? Weird.
 
Wait, you had an idea that survived 5.4?
 
@Rubio I think I'll go with (1)
 
Yeah, if it survived 5.4, then I think it's right.
 
I vote (1)
my vote is totally legal.
 
10:41 AM
@TheGreatEscaper Sorry, you can't vote. Conflict of interest and all that.
 
You're biased. But I'll accept it hehe
 
@Deusovi Just assume all symbols = 0, works perfectly for every puzzle ;)
 
@TrojanByAccident hah!
 
Gives multiple solutions.
 
10:42 AM
I assume all dots are what I mean them to be
it's very zen
 
I assume that it's not they that are the dots, but in fact me
The puzzle is only a metaphor of life
I am staring at my very soul
 
6.3 is hard.
 
My guess: set 12 is a bunch of Conway Life formations, you have to figure out which ones do what
 
It took me 10-15 minutes to solve it even knowing the rules.
 
user61230
@JonHanna It looks like the question was looking for an answer with description of what's going on, and why. The answer you provided appears to be in verse, and doesn't contain a clear statement of answer.
 
10:44 AM
My guess: set 12 is a rickroll
I would totally do that :P
 
Nah. The rickroll will be in the inscriptions.
 
It'll be in inscription 3
 
What if the monk is rick astley himself
 
I really want to be around for when someone either reaches Summit or the Constellation puzzles.
I suspect there'll be a little bit of profanity, though perhaps not in the same way that Deus used it. :P
 
You heard it guys, if you get there, don't announce it 'till TGE's asleep
 
10:46 AM
Then set an alarm for like 2 hours, Deus should be close by then
 
Maybe, maybe not.
 
And that one's dead on 5.3
 
5.3's a killer, too
 
These were tested for a reason. One poor testsolver who was working with a prototype set 5 had an interpretation that survived to the 4x4 puzzle. After three hours they declared that the 4x4 puzzle had no solutions, at which point I felt a misunderstanding had took place.
 
user61230
@JonHanna I'll ask another mod to double check.
 
10:49 AM
@TheGreatEscaper was just about to ask how long the testsolvers who found 5 a roadblock took
 
welp. as much as I'd love to get past this, I'm heading off - have fun @Deusovi, try to leave something unsolved for the rest of us. (.....as if!)
if you post something feel free to exhume my partial and/or use its images in yours
I don't suppose it would be any use to ask someone in charge if there's a way to keep people suspended from a site from being able to enter chat rooms for that site. It might be a good idea for someone to ask The Powers That Be if such a thing is possible. For, you know, no particular reason.
G'night all
 
@Rubio Night!
 
@Rubio That's quite an arbitrary reason ;)
 
Woo, on to set 7!
 
11:05 AM
:D
 
I can't even think of anything new for 5 that doesn't fork up 1.5 D:
 
@Will You're not supposed to sleep Will? :-P
 
2 hours ago, by Will
unless of course I can't sleep which is an event with a fair probability of occurrence
 
@Will Well, you don't know what all those symbols mean.
 
11:08 AM
@Will It's the opposite for me
I'm narcoleptic, so at any moment, I can fall asl
6
 
Obviously it's something obvious that we've all missed
 
@will set 1 may not be a reliable control set
 
Aren't we all narcoleptic to some point?
 
another one dead at 5.5 :)
actually nvm there'd be a second solution @ 5.4
 
11:23 AM
I'm stuck on set 7 now.
 
@Deusovi Hey Deusovi, does TSPI have a communication channel currently going? I've gotten some emails about it, but didn't see anything decisive
 
@Sp3000 I don't think so. I think they're setting up the Discord tomorrow.
Er, today.
Thursday.
 
Thursday PST, presumably :P
 
Whenever they're doing the P&A practice.
 
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11:31 AM
'nother one killed by 5.3 >__>
 
I'm really curious about these theories now
 
11:50 AM
@Will if any of your theories were not killed by 5.1-4, but were killed by set 1, I would revisit those.
 
Those ones felt very wrong
 
On to set 8!
Mind emailing me your theories? I'm pretty curious.
 
12:26 PM
Welp, I'm off to bed. I can only hope that this puzzle won't be solved by the morning.
 
It might.
 
Deusovi is a speed demon, whether that's good or bad :P
 
12:50 PM
Hey Sid!
 
Sid
Hey.
Wow, you dropped the f-Bomb!
And boy, I want this puzzle and Rubio's one to be in HNQ.
 
Set 11!
 

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