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00:02
meh, I'll just boot Windows.
@Seth Then it might be a better fit for Super User ("How can I...?")
Yeah, good point.
00:21
Just walking the review queue. Miss "doesn't meet our quality standard {link-to-meta}" as custom close reason...
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Q: Custom close reasons for software recommendations

FlykDue to the unique nature of Software Recommendations in comparison to the rest of the Stack Exchange network, I feel some discussion needs to go into the creation of close reasons specific to this site. What is the point of this post? The issues I want to tackle with this discussion are as fol...

@Izzy that's “too broad” or “unclear” plus a comment
We could make it a custom close reason, but the problem with them is that they're under “off-topic”, which makes no sense
the images lost me..
@Gilles OK, that's exactly what I did :)
@Gilles Ah. I was afraid of that. So on the "main screen", we can't have custom reasons?
@Seth or potentially security.se
00:35
@Braiam Sorry, absolutely not my area of expertise... Must leave it for others to decide :)
well, apparently I voted to close at some point and then it got reopened...
LOL Can anybody explain to me what a "social network with native support" is?
Support for natives?
Or is there any "social OS" meanwhile, and I simply didn't notice?
....... I better don't tell you...
@Braiam Uh-oh...
OK, queue emptied, going to bed (wife gets nervous ;)
Good night all!
@Seth That's called a debugger. But you're not going to find anything interesting if you don't have an idea of what you're looking for.
Reverse Engineering would be the best place to ask about this, but you'll need to provide a lot more information
01:37
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Q: Does asking for recommendations while building software fall into this site

PaulDonnySo I do a lot of Software R&D work, a LOT. One issue I have consistently faced is getting honest, brutal feedback regarding software ideas and strategies. How to implement this or what to do with that. Is there a site on SE that might fit these needs better, not where it's a coding issue, but m...

 
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02:55
@Gilles I'm looking for something that can particularly open the RAW file.
03:08
Someone serial upvoted me D:
Let's see if the serial voting thingy catches them.
It did. That's how I found out ;P
Oh
@Seth 13 minutes between the serial upvoting and the reversal. It just happened to be so close to the time the script ran. ;)
wow.
03:12
I wonder if someone here has been playing with buttons... :P
It's almost a pity since I put me 3 rep away from 1000.
@hichris123 whistles
I'm not good enough at pushing buttons to figure out any voting stuff :P
presses button -> Serial upvotes user
Review audits are so easy.
03:15
Of course, they're supposed to be. But still.
It's so cool.
Huh. While pushing buttons on @Seth's profile, I somehow found someone else's completely unrelated sockpuppet :P
@Undo Okay... :P
@Undo I won't ask who :P
(I don't have one on this site)
I'm not sure if that means I'm good at pushing buttons or terrible at pushing buttons :P
03:16
I want buttons now... :(
@Undo Or the button is messed up.
Yeah, maybe.
@hichris123 Go get 10k, that will give you buttons to press :P
And it's easier than a diamond. And less serious.
@Seth But that's hard! (I am trying to get to 1k on Arduino).
@Seth Meh, diamond == more fun. :P
Or if you get 10k rep in chat you can handle offensive flags :D
Yeah... a while off. I'm at 5k-ish network wide.
03:19
@hichris123 diamond should!= fun.
@hichris123 but diamond == more responsibility && more people yelling at you :P
and diamond == healthy fear of Shog
@hichris123 That will get you a glimpse at them.
@Undo Mm... don't you like people yelling at you? Yelling == evil.
And mod == evil.
So... Mod == yelling?
@Seth Depends.
@Undo Pretty much.
03:21
To tell the truth, diamond tools == 10k tools plus like nine thousand.
I'm not saying deleting things isn't exactly fun.. but a moderator job is a very serious thing. That's all.
@Undo That doesn't compute.
@Seth Yeah... deleting + handling flags is the funnest. :P I've never gotten to do either... so that probably explains it.
Don't assign 10k to tools :P
Yeah, accidental assignment.
Dumb chat, it should have given me real time warnings.
haha
@hichris123 Did you get my pings from last night? Showing all the buttons?
03:25
@Seth Yeah. I want them even more now... :(
Never knew mods had such fun buttons/lists!
oh yeah.
Where?
the AU meta post with all the screenshots?
yeah that.
It's outdated :P
there are more buttons and lists now.
Heh. stackoverflow.com/review/reopen/4135675 tells me it's possible spam... but it's really an audit that you should Reopen. :P
03:27
Rofl
This comment is really funny now that that user has a diamond.
@Undo: not really used mine yet :/
@JourneymanGeek ;(
you should go find a low quality answer to nuke
(of course, I'm the off hours mod, as always)
@JourneymanGeek Oooh, what UTC hours will you be active?
03:31
@Undo: my waking hours are roughly 7.20 am - 11.30 pm GMT + 8 ;p
awesome
though, naturally I'm not on all the time, but for quite a few of it.
yeah, that'll be great.
someone to handle the flags while I'm asleep so that I don't wake up to big numbers like today.
@Undo What's big equal? I'm betting it's not going to be anywhere close to 20.. :P
@hichris Uhmm... five
03:33
And you call that big?
Yes
We're a new site ;p
in Tavern on the Meta on Meta Stack Overflow Chat, 8 secs ago, by hichris123
@animuson ^ @Undo thinks that having five flags in the flag queue is a big number. Go give him a lecture on it. Please.
joins TL and waits for ping
Just wait till we get all SEOfied, and found and all the spammers come camp out on our yard with their big beedy eyes and buck teeth.
03:35
rubs hands together
(and eh, mentioning my waking hours is useful, people are convinced I don't sleep)
@JourneymanGeek Wait... you go to sleep at 11:30 in the morning?
@hichris123:>_>
BRB ABUSING MOD POWERS TO HIDE THE TRUTH.
sigh You ninja editor mods...
@hichris123: I almost said 12.00, but then decided 11.30 was more average.
And I get woken up at 7.20 cause its time for walkies.
03:39
Wait... you cheated SR out of a half hour of mod time? How dare you! MOD ABUSE!!!11!!!
O....kay.
@Seth ?
5 is big. On a site like this.
Not really... think of how many experienced comment flaggers we have. :P
The point is there isn't a whole lot of content to flag.
Although SR has more than any other beta site I'm guessing.
04:10
Yep. Way more participation and such than any other beta I've seen.
AU has an average of 25-30.
We need more questions on Arduino... we're kinda running out. :P
like last time :-/
I think we have like a 91% answered question rate.
@Seth Yeah... I'm hoping it doesn't go that way. :(
Maybe if/when we go into public we'll get more?
I think we have more people who are experts & know a lot about Arduino... and not so much people who ask questions...
maybe.
 
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Q: Does asking for recommendations while building software fall into this site

PaulDonnySo I do a lot of Software R&D work, a LOT. One issue I have consistently faced is getting honest, brutal feedback regarding software ideas and strategies. How to implement this or what to do with that. Is there a site on SE that might fit these needs better, not where it's a coding issue, but m...

^ We need to be thinking about this.
@Undo: as he says it, it sounds almost OT for us. I think asking about libraries may be borderline, but if he's trying to bounce off ideas and stratergies, it may be something better for chat.
Same thoughts here
Actually, thats something I never thought about. Are asking for recommendations for libraries on topic? I'm not enough of a coder to have a clue on that ;p
Also, would 2) be on topic for SO?
ahh, I see.
05:36
@JourneymanGeek I think so, yes.
I think we went over that on Meta at some point.
yeah, linking it in my answer ;p
metaed.
@JourneymanGeek Asking for libraries was one of the main reasons this site was started.
someone recommend me software for newly installed windows 7
@Utkarsh: all the things
@JourneymanGeek all?
05:41
However, when I get a new windows system, I tend to start with ninite ;p
ALL
let me see
ninite
If you could be more specific, I'll have some suggestions
Hey! Ninite has come a long way. Maybe I'll actually start using it now
ninite is a nice way to install free applications, and stuff like java automagically, and it dosen't install the toolbars on the stuff that does.
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@JourneymanGeek but.....viruses......
05:42
Its a nice way to get a system up and running with things like firefox, an antivirus and stuff.
ninite contains viruses?
My new favorite apps for windows are autoruns and zoomit.
@Utkarsh: It'll install an AV for you
@Utkarsh Use Linux :P
@Utkarsh: Do I look like a cat evil person who'd recommend crap to you?
ninite is quite literally the first thing that I run on my windows systems
05:44
You look like a dog.
;P
@Seth: Precisely.
@Seth see my profile; why i hate linux
I already did, I was teasing you ;)
@Utkarsh: I usually use ninite to get a browser, AV, 7zip, stuff like flash and so on installed. They don't have my preferred PDF reader so thats seperate.
(sumatra is my second choice, but I've used pdf xchange viewer mostly)
@Seth autoruns is awesome!!!!
@JourneymanGeek no you are the most trustworthy person
:p
@Seth :P
@JourneymanGeek sumatra is indian
05:48
@Utkarsh: if you're that worried, download your AV first, install that, and run ninite later
no, Sumatra is indonesian ;p
Sumatra (), is an island in western Indonesia, to the west of the Sunda Islands. It is the largest island that is entirely in Indonesia (two larger islands, Borneo and New Guinea, are shared between Indonesia and other countries) and the sixth largest island in the world at 473,481 km2 with a current population of almost 50 million (53 million administratively, as Riau Islands and Bangka–Belitung Islands are included). Its biggest city is Medan with over 4 million in the greater urban area. Sumatra is an elongated landmass spanning a diagonal northwest-southeast axis. The Indian O...
lol
@JourneymanGeek no, i already have avast
I got a private beta for softtware recs
:P
now its public
I was in the private beta too
05:51
@JourneymanGeek how much rep. is required to be a mod?
@Utkarsh: Mod-ship isn't dependant on reputation, more on Reputation
;p
(besides, post beta, they'll elect mods I think)
ooh la la. Sysinternals is a treasure trove.
Wish I had heard of them before.
@Seth: that and nirsoft are the first places I look for tools to solve odder issues
@Utkarsh 300 usually.
yay! i have 500
05:53
@Seth: thats for elected mods though
@JourneymanGeek I was gonna say, you use ninite to solve weird issues?
mildly distracted ;p
I need to get a haircut. I'm getting complaints I'm getting a bit shaggy.
trying to find my wallet and such
@JourneymanGeek me too :P but i will get haircut after one week, till my exams get over :P
@Utkarsh You want to be a mod on AU? When you don't even use Ubuntu and don't want to? o_O
@Seth hehe! i was just joking
05:56
@JourneymanGeek Nirsoft looks awesome too.
@Utkarsh ah ok.
@JourneymanGeek googledrive, dropbox or skydrive, which one do you prefer? for pdf, excel files
i just want to send them to my laptpo
*laptop
onedrive or ubuntu one
Woot! Hit the 1000 rep so I can edit with no review again
@Utkarsh: I use either pushbullet or bitorrent sync
05:58
and can deal with the suggested edit queue
@NickWilde yippee! Now I need too :D
@Seth yeah you do... just surpassed your rep by a few today muahaha
(Seriously, if you have an android phone, and a PC, and need to send small files to it, or notes, its really worth it)
@NickWilde: I think I hit it yesterday, had a flurry of upvotes
I actually prefer to run anything I can myself
that way if anything breaks, I know its me ;p
hmmm softwarerecs seems interesting
I was actually serially upvoted today.
06:01
@JourneymanGeek yeah I see that - congrats
@Seth lol
@Seth here's a few more for some answer I never got around to voting on
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Q: What sketching software exists that has minimal memory requirements?

UtkarshI want a software that can make sketches on lubuntu and also has ability to save it. The program must work in 512 mb or less RAM and thus I cannot use a heavy-weight - memory intensive - solution

oh cool. thanks.
this question fits in software recs?
06:03
@Utkarsh try more specific.
okay'
earning 300rep. in 1 month is hard?
no, not if you try.
lol, won 3 bounties in 3 days :P
@Utkarsh add details of the feature requirements and I'd say it would be fine
:wave: see y'all later
@NickWilde okay :)
@Seth so you will get
06:10
don't you serial upvote me now.
no, not serial, i am upvoting what i find useful, (i am exploring this site for the first time :P)
@Seth oho :) 1002
hmm.. well a fine line ;)
06:29
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Q: any time scheduling software for my exams

Utkarshexams are coming, i need to make a time table in which i can see, what subject to revise and when. please tell me if there is aany software for this. Also, I need it for my Windows 7, 1500mb ram

is it on topic?
okay bye
Good Afternoon
Good night.
@Utkarsh on-topic yeah, but waay to broad.
 
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07:49
@Utkarsh: If you have an android phone (especially a more recent one), you could probably just use google calender - and use that to send reminders.
 
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Q: Is the proportion of unanswered questions a concern?

AmaterasuOf the almost 500 questions, well over 100 questions are unanswered - that seems like a worrying statistic - is it of concern?

@Utkarsh: "Online type thing" that "Runs on windows" ?
I think we need to work on your skills at explication
(Yes, its an actual word. I looked it up)
lol
@JourneymanGeek edit that in whatever way you want, but i found it!! its google drive, as you said
2 hours ago, by Journeyman Geek
@Utkarsh: If you have an android phone (especially a more recent one), you could probably just use google calender - and use that to send reminders.
@Utkarsh: so, you want a online webapp, where you can download the calender...
@JourneymanGeek yes!!
let me fix up your question (feel free to rollback if its incorrect) and answer it.
09:24
@JourneymanGeek no..you gave the answer, so YOU must answer it
lol
edited, take a look
no no
I mean, see if my edits to your question match what you want
@JourneymanGeek thanks :D
I want to do one more edit. Pay attention! This would probably result in your questions not being closed
okay
do you not want reminders, or is it just not a core requirement?
09:28
yes
how much ram required? and is it free? softwarerecs.stackexchange.com/questions/969/…
@Utkarsh: wouldn't be an issue with a webapp
@JourneymanGeek no, i was just asking
@Utkarsh: its a webapp. Wouldn't be an issue ;p
ok
@JourneymanGeek sainsrow game is not for 14 year olds?
nonsense! i cant enter the site as i am 14???? i cant play saints row and sleeping dogs!!! then what should i play???
09:33
O.o
okay, i am going to play out
thanks for reminding me! you know? i have bought a new bat? and a new season ball. okay leave it and bye!
good afternoon!
 
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@StackExchange "And if it is, should our mods delete some of them?" Ooops...
@Izzy: or answer some of them ;p
@JourneymanGeek I take that as a volunteer-ship (you're one of our mods now ;)
13:20
Already trawling through them
13:59
hm, thats not good. softwarerecs.stackexchange.com/questions/1551/… I fixed this up, presumably but its getting reclosed
14:20
had avery bad experience at software recs
@Utkarsh Your question is very broad, you should explain why a basic calendar software doesn't cover your needs
15:11
@Utkarsh Just built into other software and ignoring offline webapps I have at least 3 different calendaring applications that would do what you listed.
@NickWilde thenw hy are you not answering??
@Utkarsh because that implies that it is way to broad - I'll could say every mail program on my computer but that sounds lame Also I don't really like any of them because they don't do exactly what I want them to (although they match your minimal listed reqs). I don't want to recommend something I don't use
@Utkarsh Software recommendation scope is about precise recommendations...
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@JourneymanGeek congratulations and thanks for stepping up to the plate :D
@NickWilde he handled all the flags while I was asleep, too :D
15:20
@Fractaliste Can I copy that to my signature/profile - that is just such a perfect minimum words maximum meaning mission statement
@Fractaliste yes you are right
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Q: Time scheduling software for my exams

UtkarshExams are coming, I need to make a time table in which I can see what subject to revise and when. Needs to be a web application which I can use offline - much like google drive I need to be able to use this in windows I need to be able to view my schedule at any time - not just be reminded of ...

jouneymangeek, not told me about backup
@NickWilde Of course, but it's not really my sentence, I read it many time on meta
oh I haven't seen that specific sentence - lots of variations but usually with half a dozen more words
15:33
@Braiam okay :0
15:44
Is this VLQ?
I suppose it's multiple recs in one answer
both of them are incorrect
@Undo He says that all these soft have downside, but he doesn't explain them while it that which interest us. It's not VLQ but to be improved
and @JourneymanGeek ninite is awesome!! and safe too! i was amazed, that it can install apps automatically!!! you are my Hero!!
@Undo for my POV seems more like "I used this and that, but I have no idea if you will like them", also it doesn't list what characteristics fits OP needs
and fails at least two
(but I'm OP, so, I may be biased)
another similar one here
15:56
@Undo I blame OP
yeah
Another less-than-optimal answer right below it - I think I might nuke that one.
@Undo Opened my can, left out a message :)
;)
I need to get that script set up on my machine :P
Btw, this one is even worse. Going to flag it NAA.
Urgs. No NAA?
^ That's going to be hard :P
When you don't refresh the page after someone deletes something and you try to flag it, it only gives you custom for a reason
16:00
Ugh... Where do I click now to flag it? #D
@Undo Ah. So our paths crossed :)
yup :D
@Undo heh, you will see that you suddenly have emails asking why you deleted their answer/question instead of reading all the comments...
@Undo you should do that!
@Braiam uh-oh, what did I do now?
@Braiam LOL
16:02
hides
I've got to go now, be back in ~3 hours. Cya folks!
@Undo bye
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Q: How can I answer my own recommendation?

BraiamAs all SE sites, Software Recommendations encourage people to share knowledge in the way of selfanswering questions, which is nice and all, but... how do I objectively answer my own question? I mean, I'm the one that puts the constrains for the recommendations, how can I answer myself without bei...

16:32
OK, and since @Undo deleted the "bad one", I've added an answer as it should look like (oh, hopefully :)
 
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Q: Two meanings of [task-management]

leventovPeople use task-managment in two very different ways: first very similar to project-management, second for questions related to OS-level task management. I think the first case should be forbidden (with a comment in tag description), only project-management used for such questions. BTW there is...

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