Software Recommendations

Seth

12:31 AM

@Undo I think you are over worried :)

This site is different than the majority of SE sites, but every site has it's own standards and moderation style ;)

Good luck!

Undo

@Seth Yes, but this site is very very different. But yes, I suppose you're right ;)

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Q: Would plugin recommendations about Minecraft be on topic?

So for example "Plugin for Bukkit that will rollback changes on a Minecraft server" or "Plugin for Bukkit that will So long as the question is specific in what plugin the user is looking for, I don't see a problem, other than the fact that it is asking about a game. I was reading this meta qu...

Undo

Huh, good question.

Not sure.

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A: Would plugin recommendations about Minecraft be on topic?

I think the answer is already in the linked question: A question asking what OS is most fun to debug would not be. Conversely, a question asking about Minecraft or Kerbal Space Program mods for worldbuilding would be on-topic. The distinction is not the primary purpose of the software, but th...

Did I interpret the answer right?

Seth

yep

Undo

yay!

Gilles

12:58 AM

@Undo authoritative answer: yes

Undo

1:10 AM

@Gilles Yay for authoritative answers! ;)

Gilles

though you cited the wrong paragraph

Undo

Eh?

@Gilles Which one should've I chosen?

Gilles

> “What editor for [GAME]” is a software recommendation that happens to be related to playing games — again, that's for-a-purpose software, so it's fine.

Undo

Not sure that's stronger than the other paragraph, TBH

Gilles

it's closer to the example in the question: a tool whose purpose is to do something related to the game

rather than the different example of using the game itself as a tool

Undo

1:16 AM

Ah, that makes sense.

Updated ;)

Seth

1:37 AM

@Undo Show both excerpts.

Undo

1:58 AM

@Seth Done.

Seth

Cool.

Stack Exchange

2:43 AM

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Q: The active question page shows 0 ongoing bounties when in fact there is one

I just noticed that the active question page shows 0 on-going bounties, but there actually is an on-going one: If you click on the "featured" tab, it shows the number correctly: I guess this is a bug. I wasn't sure how to tag this.. so this will have to do

bug active-questions

Stack Exchange

3:19 AM

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Q: Can I lift tag-wiki entries from other SE sites?

I'm currently asking questions that don't seem to have a tag-wiki entry for the tags I need to use, and there's perfectly good tags on SU for those pieces of software. Can I copy the tag wiki information from SU (and how would I attribute?) to help initially populate these tags?

discussion

Undo

3:42 AM

You know, I'm starting to see a pattern of the questions using two bulleted lists, one for "musts haves" and another for "nice to haves" being the best questions.

just an early observation, might be of use if we ever make a recommended format for questions/answers.

I'm not sure this question is fully on-topic here. We're a site for recommending software based on a set of requirements, not for comparing two pieces of software to eachother. — Undo 23 secs ago

^ Am I right?

Seth

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A: reference management for Libreoffice/Openoffice

LibreOffice actually has a good bibliography feature built in. I'm not sure how it compares to Word's since I've never really used either. However, the first thing you need to do is update your LibreOffice. The latest version is 4.2.0.4; you're a long way behind! The first thing to do is to ma...

Is that too in-depth? I mean, we're just supposed to be a recommendation site.

Journeyman Geek

4:00 AM

@Seth: there's no such thing as too indepth IMO

I'll throw that an upvote first, mess with it a bit, and try to give more details on what MS office does right :/

If its alright. its good enough but not quite there

Seth

@JourneymanGeek OK. I'm not sure I really understand your question in it's entirety, which was why I was a bit unsure about answering.

@JourneymanGeek Could you maybe try to clarify the last paragraph?

@Undo I think so, he is comparing software, not asking for a recommendation.

Thanks for the edit @Undo.

Undo

@Seth no problem.

Yay review queues!

goes to review stuff

Journeyman Geek

4:18 AM

@Seth: Your answer is roughly 90% of what I need. The other 10% is the seriously annoying part. I'll boot into the VM with ms office installed later and try to explain more in depth.

Seth

@JourneymanGeek Great thanks!

@Undo \o/

I just need 96 more rep to reach 500 :D

Undo

@Seth yay!

Seth

4:53 AM

@Undo I'm testing that script now, but I can't detect this one syntax error :-/

Undo

Which script?

Seth

The md5sum one.

Undo

the MD5-thingy?

A

ah, yeah.

Seth

Bash was never very good at errors..

Undo

Nope.

Seth

5:19 AM

Alright, fixed all the syntax errors, now for the logic errors.

Fractaliste

8:13 AM

Is softwarerecs.stackexchange.com/questions/587/… a possible duplicate of softwarerecs.stackexchange.com/questions/6/… ?

Journeyman Geek

@Undo I think thats an essential part of a good software recommendation question, really. It kind of naturally forces good answers with research too

Gilles

8:58 AM

@Undo we've already started

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A: My instincts are all wrong

It's a pretty simple checklist to ask a good, narrowly-scoped recommendation question. I'll make a rough outline here, I'm currently revising this (which is based on the original ground rules that I posted pre-launch). 1. Straight to the point, succinct title Don't use words like 'best' or 'goo...

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A: You're doing it all wrong!

I agree with the general sentiment, but not with all your recommendations. How does it meet the needs of the asker? Don't just say "it has these features" or "it meets all of your needs" - who cares? Describe the features in more detail. Yes, definitely. Why do you, personally, like the...

@Fractaliste no, very different requirement set

Fractaliste

@Gilles He's asking for JS code completion and syntax checking which the other question asked to (but the second one required PHP too).

If I ask just for JS code completion without syntax checking isn't it a new duplicate ?

jokerdino

There can be software that only deal with JS which would suit your new question but not the other one.

Fractaliste

Otherwise we are going to a lot of very close question.

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10:30 AM

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Q: HTML keyboard tag as symbol in editor

I've seen the keyboard tag of HTML the first time here at SR. The main HTML functions are available in the toolbar of the editor. Why is there no symbol for add the keyboard tag ? For SR this symbol could improve and make the writting of answers and questions more comfortable.

feature-request html keyboard

Gilles

11:08 AM

Voting patterns here aren't encouraging. Ok, I'm conflicted, but: +5 for a two-line answer, +4 for an answer that recommends using built-in features when possible and the same software for the advanced use case

and it isn't a matter of timing, the answers were posted within 1min of each other

Gilles

11:43 AM

the most upvoted question sucks

3ventic

More people take the time to read the two-line answer than a few paragraphs long answer.

@Gilles It doesn't suck, but it's not great either.

It's a bit broad though

Gilles

it was closed and reopened twice, so it's clearly controversial

I still think it should be closed

it's far too broad

weird that 10 people voted to close but only 3 downvoted

3ventic

Downvotes and close votes have a different purpose

Gilles

it has 10 answers already, basically everyone's favorite editor

3ventic

I didn't even answer with my favorite editor

Gilles

11:47 AM

neither did I, because I don't answer questions that should be closed

3ventic

I haven't decided on the question

Angelo Neuschitzer

@Gilles I think its not too broad. The fact that there are many programs fitting that need doesn't make it too broad. If the OP hasn't decided on more specific criteria for his workflow than thats fine. (If I had posted a Q about a editor to fit my needs the list of requirements would have been longer :))

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12:08 PM

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Q: Tag merge request: [free] and [floss]

Nothing to add, but the body must be at least 30 characters

feature-request tags

Undo

1:53 PM

Is this VLQ?

-1

A: Password manager for Linux with just working in-browser autotype

gnome-keyring is a good password manager that comes with Ubuntu. The only features it does not have are categorizing passwords and password generation. It can also manage SSH and PGP keys.

@Gilles opinions?

Gilles

2:32 PM

@Undo yes, it's VLQ

Undo

@Gilles Ok, I flagged as such and it was disputed ;(

Gilles

we have plenty of questions to get us going, we don't need more questions in this private beta

Undo

Maybe we need to get everyone on the same page?

Gilles

we should spend the rest of the private beta on quality control

Undo

We shouldn't stop people from contributing, though.

Gilles

2:33 PM

I was thinking of making a meta post to this effect. I don't have time to write it now, maybe tonight

Undo

Yeah, good idea.

We need people to keep posting because that's how they get rep to actually perform these quality control things.

Gilles

You need 1 rep to edit or downvote or vote to close

15 rep to flag

and at that point we need some quality guidelines

e.g. should this answer be summarily deleted

Undo

Yes, but we need people that can handle those flags (1kers work quite nicely) and people to approve the edits.

Gilles

SE staff can handle flags, but they tend to err on the side of permissiveness on a young site

though they might see it differently given that this is a bit of a special case

Undo

Yes, but we do want to be as self-sustaining as possible.

Gilles

2:36 PM

@Undo I know some of the community here wants a free-for-all. I see my mod nomination is controversial… I expected as much. We really need to hash out quality control on meta

Undo

Absolutely.

I'm not saying we should have a free-for-all, but the more self-moderation we can perform the better.

As long as we train people correctly, as you say.

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Q: What would be best way to deal with simmilar but not duplicate questions

For example this two cases listed bellow are different questions but same answers may apply and actually answer both questions. Is there an alternative software for Adobe Photoshop Lightroom? Photo manipulation software with RAW support on Linux In this two questions the answers can be quite...

discussion

Undo

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A: Software forcing me to make rest breaks during work at the computer

For OS X, I've used Dejal Time Out. It's also available in the Mac App Store. It's free. It has some pretty fine-grained settings: It even has a feature to play music of your choice during your break.

^ Approval from the chatroom?

aaaaack it's so hard not to flag all the obsolete comments ;(

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3:54 PM

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Q: What to do about recommendations containing potentially harmful adware?

So, I'm rather surprised this hasn't been discussed already (it hasn't been as far as I can tell). What do we do if an answer to a question recommends a piece of software that, for example, contains Adware or something else bad during the installation process? Should we make note of this? As an ...

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Q: Lets come to a consensus here guys

I dont know if this has been addressed or not, but.. The question JS/PHP editor software has been closed twice, reopened, and is well into process toward being closed again. Looking around the site, I see there other very similar questions where the only difference is the language they are ta...

discussion

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5:07 PM

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Q: Can I answer with website/webapp?

When someone asks a valid question, and I know there's website/webapp that fulfills all or at least majority of the requirements, should I answer with that? Obviously if question specifies native application, I shouldn't. Somewhat related to this meta question: Can I ask for recommended websites...

discussion

Seth

5:21 PM

Meta has gone mad!

@Gilles I eventually got it worked out in the AU room, but thanks :)

And I thought I was up to most of Bash's tricks.. I guess that itself was a trick.

@Undo Latest version is working, but it's still... not very user friendly nor smart. paste.ubuntu.com/6892477

Undo

@Seth It's not half as huge as I expected it to be.

Seth

That's a bad thing. I need to put more checks in place.

Undo

Unit tests!

Seth

Wait a second..

I think I detected a major logic error.

Undo

uh-oh

@Gilles Congrats on editing privs!

Seth

5:31 PM

make that two..

pulls hair out

Seth

5:52 PM

@Undo I don't know if you still care, but I'm putting it in a git repo now: github.com/Seth-Johnson/md5sumChecker/blob/master/… Tired of having to repaste it every 5 minutes lol

Undo

yay!

Seth

I think that's all the errors. Need to do more testing later. Now for breakfast :D

Undo

Have fun eating things!

I hope my latest tag excerpt edit is on the right track.

Seth

Sounds fine to me.

Undo

6:50 PM

is 24 rep away from edit privs.

Seth

7:08 PM

YAY

Undo

7:34 PM

Oh yay!

Seth

7:46 PM

I need to get out of the habit of using inline links..

Undo

@Seth Why? Inline links are good.

Seth

I mean, using the []() syntax.

I was thinking the [][#] was cleaner for editors.

Undo

Meh, I like []() better

It's clearer which links go where.

Seth

Perhaps. I'm particularly thinking about updating the links in this answer though.. I think the second would make it much easier.

Undo

Yay my text-editors excerpt got approved!

I'm going to try a few more.

Angelo Neuschitzer

7:52 PM

I just saw this question here: softwarerecs.stackexchange.com/questions/496/… and remember you guys talking about "doing it with a script" ... did you refer to this question or a different one?

Undo

@AngeloNeuschitzer No, we were talking about the question on verifying file integrity.

Angelo Neuschitzer

@Undo thanks

Undo

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Q: File integrity checker

I have a large amount of files that should never change, including RAW photographs and video files. I'm worried about silent bit rot. I do have backups to restore lost/corrupted files, but comparing current files against backups is not practical (for example, video files are on digital tapes). ...

linux osx file

Angelo Neuschitzer

nods

Seth

Just two more upvotes to 500 :D

Undo

7:54 PM

One and a half more for me :D

Seth

Man.. I wish there was a Windows version of KDEnlive.

Or openshot.

Undo

@Seth Go forth and asky!

Seth

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Q: Non-linear video editor for relatively simple videos on Windows

If I'm trying to edit relatively simple videos, what is a good non-linear editor available on Windows? These are the features I'm looking for: trimming video clips combining two clips (play one after another) ability to insert images, video, or audio at arbitrary points on top of an already ex...

windows video

doorknob beat me to it, I'm trying to answer :P

Undo

hah

Seth

I was thinking Movie Maker, but it doesn't support adding overlays AFAIK.

Undo

8:02 PM

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Q: OS X application to burn a .mov to a DVD?

The other day I found it necessary to burn an MOV to a DVD. Sounds simple, right? No. I didn't want any special effects, I just wanted an MOV on a DVD. Eventually, I just used iDVD and found a hack to remove all the menus and chrome. The app must: Not apply any styling, menus, or other things ...

osx dvd

^ Does anyone have tag ideas?

Undo

8:22 PM

@Seth Congrats on edit powaz ;)

Seth

Hey cool. Thanks :)

I'm out of votes, so I can't upvote your question :-/

Undo

:(

I should become out of votes too.

goes to vote on stuff

Seth

@Undo Here's a tip too: zoneminder.com

You might be able to come up with an answer :)

Undo

Huh, that looks kinda neat.

Seth

One problem I have with it is it requires apache.. but that won't stop an answer

Stack Exchange

8:29 PM

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Q: Convert the "floss" tag into a synonym to "open-source"

Browsing through our current tags, I see we have open-source (even with a tag wiki already), and floss (which I just learned stands for "free/libre open-source software"). The latter IMHO is a rather uncommon (or at least less known; before yesterday, I only knew FOSS for "free and open-source") ...

discussion tag-synonyms

Undo

@StackExchange Yes. This :D

It's amazing how many little quirks there are that 10k gets you, and then you get used to them and it drives you nuts when you're on a site with <10k :P

Like review history. And inline tag editing.

Seth

@Undo Now I can't downvote much lol.

Undo

heh

Seth

@Undo I don't have mod tools on any site yet :(

But I'm just 250 short on AU :D

Undo

@Seth They're nice.

Seth

8:37 PM

lol. I heard the opposite.

It would be nicer and fancier if we could get Robert Cartaino to synonymize them. — Seth 6 secs ago

I can't say "Robert" without the "Cartaino" lol.

Undo

That's because there are two Roberts.

And yes, those tags need to be merged.

Seth

@Undo I meant it doesn't seem right to refer to him as "Robert" alone.

Undo

@Seth Yeah, it doesn't.

I've heard it as just Robert, but it does sound odd without the Cartaino part.

Maybe it's just because that's how we're used to hearing it.

Seth

Maybe.

Undo

Robert Harvey is usually just Robert on mSO

Seth

8:43 PM

yeah

Seth

9:12 PM

@Undo Stop letting secrets out softwarerecs.stackexchange.com/questions/583/… ;P

Undo

@Seth What's the sekrit?

API 2.2?

That's hardly a sekrit :P

Seth

The 3.0 api. Or 2.2 or whatever.

Undo

You just have to find it. And the Android app uses it anyway...

Seth

@Undo When Nathan Osman posted a question about it on MSO it was deleted.. it isn't a bug deal though :P

Undo

@Seth Really? Huh.

is scared

Gilles

9:18 PM

@Seth CENSORSHIP!

Seth

lol.

That was like right after the SE android app was announced.

Gilles

I'd like to see whether we can do hardware recommendations here

anybody got a (good!) hardware recommendation to ask?

Undo

We're for software recs, right? Wouldn't hardware be a whole different site?

But I imagine something along the lines of those hardware 2-factor auth thingies would be good.

Gilles

@Undo the site name is not a good argument

sometimes sites start with the wrong name for silly reasons

Undo

Yes, but people committed under it. Aren't they (and SE) expecting a software site?

Gilles

9:22 PM

for example Science Fiction & Fantasy started out as “science fiction” — a few people said “no! science fiction only! I don't want fantasy here!”

Undo

If we were to do it, I would want a CM go-ahead first.

Gilles

fortunately the majority was for not making the distinction

French Language started out as a merger of several Area 51 proposal, one of which was an English/French translation site. Yet we don't do translations on French.

The early beta is the time to hash out these things

Area 51 isn't good at it

Undo

Then post something on Meta asking if we can.

Gilles

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Q: Are hardware recommendations on-topic?

This site was established as a software recommendations site. However, we do not have to define our scope based on historical happenstance in choosing a name. Given that our primary focus is on software, it could make sense to allow hardware recommendations as well, at least computer hardware r...

discussion scope hardware

Undo

@Gilles I reopened and approved your edit, but I think we'd really be pushing the scope of the site too far if we expanded to hardware recommendation questions. — Tim Post 2 days ago

Gilles

9:25 PM

we need to have a few good questions, not that question which was poor in the first place and where the asker insisted on making it worse

and we need to have a debate on meta with arguments, like the one about games. Not “the site is called software so we can't do hardware”

or the debate on websites, it looks like we're going to allow pretty much any website, even ones that can't reasonably be called webapps

Undo

Tim kinda said right there that hardware is pushing it.

Gilles

My position is: this is a site to ask about recommendations of computer tools to achieve a purpose. What part of the computer is hardware and what part is software doesn't matter.

Now, I don't know if it's the right position, because hardware recommendations have problems of their own. Hardware becomes obsolete very quickly, for one. And price is a lot more often an important element than it is for software.

Seth

Hmm. I'm not sure hardware recommendations would work as well as software ones.. especially since hardware is much more opinion based.

Gilles

But we need some reasoning, not “it's called software so sod off”

@Seth so let's have a few good questions and see what happens

or else let someone with experience of good hardware recommendation questions tell us what went wrong

Seth

btw @Gilles wanna rename the room now?

@Gilles I'm very doubtful, but I'm not adverse to trying.

Gilles

9:31 PM

@Seth to what?

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Q: What should our chatroom be named?

Our lovely chatroom is currently sitting there with a terribly generic name: Software Recommendations. What should we name it?

Soft Wrecks?

I like Software Rex.

I don't

Soft Wrecks sounds like a bad omen.

Gilles

it sounds like a person, not like a place

Soft Rex's cave?

but it doesn't sound right

Seth

I thought we agreed on "The Soft Wrecks" or something along those lines..

Undo

9:32 PM

Actually: I don't like any of them. But that's the one I dislike the least.

Gilles

So let's wait

Seth

The rex idea is cool, but too weird IMO.

ok

3ventic

@Undo This is basically what I think

Seth

I don't get the Control F one..

I don't think I've ever used that shortcut before..

Undo

Control... I never use that button.

Gilles

9:38 PM

@Undo not even with Z?

Undo

Nope. I use command for that.

Seth

I use T,C,V,X,W and R. and N

Gilles

@Seth neither do I, what does “move to the next character” have to do with chat?

3ventic

Control F makes as much sense as Windows S

Seth

ahh, it does do find in the browser.. I guess I use that sometimes. doesn't make the answer clearer though.

@3ventic Control Find and Windows Search

3ventic

9:39 PM

Yup

Undo

Yay FLOSS got merged!

:D

thanks Robert for making the merge but doesn't want to ping him because he's busy

hichris123

@Undo Too busy to review my tag-wiki edits on AI. :P

Undo

hehe

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Q: Is there a way to suggest renaming of a tag, except via post in meta

I am asking because I just realized I have contributed to a tag called netbean, created by a user who mistakenly called that way the NetBeans IDE for Java development. I also contributed to the tag wiki, and now I feel bad as it is not properly named. Unfortunately I was not able to rename it mys...

discussion feature-request tags

Seth

10:00 PM

well, everyone jumped on that

Undo

FGITW M.SR FTW

:P

Seth

LOL

btw, I removed the dev tag since I didn't think it was any good.

Undo

agreed

Gilles

@Seth yeah, but only one correct answer :p

Seth

@Gilles technically true.

This is cool: ux.stackexchange.com/a/51867/24903

Seth

10:40 PM

Oh great.

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Q: IntelliJ IDEA vs Eclipse vs NetBeans for "pure Java" development

Important private beta notice: this is a trial question for this proposal on meta: Advocating “X vs Y” questions. Of course IntelliJ IDEA, Eclipse and NetBeans are all excellent cross-platform IDEs with a great number of features and numerous plugins for any needs. I know there are substantial d...

software-development java ide netbeans

Now we're doing comparisons.

Undo

Eeeek

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Q: Is tool x versus tool y a fair question?

Can I ask the pros and cons between 2 programs on SR? Example: I have used Open Office for the longest time for my free word processor. I am interested in trying LibreOffice. Why should I change? Why should I not change?

discussion

This says no. We must close it as off-topic.

Seth

Right. votes

Undo

Consistency is key.

Oooh fortune + cowsay is fun.

Seth

yes it is.

Undo

hichris123

10:43 PM

> Important private beta notice: this is a trial question for this proposal on meta: Advocating “X vs Y” questions.

Still VTC?

Undo

Oh, maybe we're not supposed to.

Hmmmm...

Although that meta question is kinda gone.

Seth

@hichris123 YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS‌SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS‌SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS‌SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS‌SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

Undo

Yes.

Seth

If it gets closed that says we don't want these kind of questions.

hichris123

@Seth I warned you. :P

> Your vote has been recorded

Gilles

10:55 PM

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Q: Syntax highlighting text editor for Mac OSX

When I'm writing or reading code (Java, JavaScript, HTML, CSS, XML, etc.),I prefer something more lightweight than an IDE, that highlights syntax but doesn't do much else. What options are there for OSX? On Windows, I'd probably use notepad++, and on Linux most distros have a default syntax high...

text-editors

Undo

Yay editing powaz!

Gilles

not sure about that one. It has a user story, but it's a bit on the thin side

Undo

@Gilles I think it's fine.

The important features are given, in a clear consice manner.

waits impatiently for meta to pick up on my new powaz and let me fix that typo that's been bugging me

Gilles

huh, I thought you had more rep than me

I haven't been answering like crazy

Undo

Nope.

I haven't either, really.

Gilles

10:59 PM

at least, not by my U&L standards, which may be on the high side

@Undo well then, one more emacs answer from me I guess

Undo

hehe

Seth

YAY. I just fulfilled my commitment.

Gilles

hey, if someone posts an editor question where vim is a better answer, I'll answer vim

Seth

heh, nano does everything he wants lol.

Can you get nano on OSX?

Undo

@Seth Go ask.

Seth

11:02 PM

I don't have an OSX machine so..

Undo

Wait, nano is on mine already.

So yes.

Dunno if it's part of the dev tools, though.

Seth

@Gilles Doesn't emacs of lots of extraneous features? :P

Undo

emacs is extraneous features.

Seth

Is it just me, or have most of the questions been about editors?

I'd like a reason for this: softwarerecs.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/544 @Undo @Gilles

Undo

@Seth Quite a few of them have been.

Seth

11:05 PM

The question has nothing to do with netbeans, besides the fact that that's what they used to use..

Undo

Because the question is very related to netbeans.

Seth

I don't see that...

Gilles

@Seth you don't have to use them. Most emacs users only use a tiny subset of its features

Stack Exchange

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Q: "Feature tags" only for required or also for optional features?

Should "feature tags" (is there a better name?) like OS (linux, osx, windows, …), license (open-source), and costs (free) only be used if they are required features? Or may they also be used for optional features? Example: The question Desktop Publisher (Alternatives to InDesign) is tagged wi...

discussion tags

Undo

@Seth Upon more thought, methinks you're right.

I messed up.

My first edit review here, too ;(

Seth

11:14 PM

Is the math room.. usually like that? (/ot)

Undo

Eeek

Seth

Indeed.

Undo

I saw some chatflags a few minutes ago but they went away before I could click them. I bet I know where they came from :P

Seth

Yeah, they were maths ones..

@Undo i.imgur.com/nvrWRrV.png ;)

Undo

;)

Gilles

11:18 PM

@Seth you're right, I goofed

Undo

I kinda rolled it back

Gilles

I'd seen the meta discussion and I blindly assumed that the tag was warranted in the first place

Undo

I did the same thing, @Gilles

Seth

bbl

Undo

cya

Gilles

11:51 PM

My answers: OSMAnd, Autohotkey, Unison, Emacs, Emacs, Emacs, LXDE, Pidgin, Nautilus, pdfjam, Autohotkey, Emacs

I see some trends

Undo

Hmmm...

Maybe give it to the Stats people and ask them to.

They'd come up with some weird thing and completely miss the multiple Emacs, probably :P

like 'the binary string of this consists 70% of zeros'

Gilles

I need to update that osmand answer which was quite short

I know it works because I had similar enough requirements, but I need to explain why and how it works

What's Meta on OSX, again?

Undo

Yep.

@Gilles I think it's usually Command

Gilles

isn't that Control?

Undo

But I dunno what meta is, other than a site with a depressing color theme.

Gilles

11:56 PM

it's the traditional unix name for Alt

Undo

I think it's control, yeah. How could I test it?

Gilles

you're right, I should use terminology that the asker knows (like I explained what “electric” and “window” mean in Emacs)

Emacs uses both Control and Meta in its default shortcuts

the manual should say, let me look

Undo

Hmmm... maybe option? Option-A works for screen.

Gilles

> By default, the <alt> and <option> keys are the same as <Meta>. The Mac <Cmd> key is the same as <Super>, and Emacs provides a set of key bindings using this modifier key that mimic other Mac / GNUstep applications (see Mac / GNUstep Events). You can change these bindings in the usual way (see Key Bindings).

Undo

huh

Gilles

11:59 PM

is that really for a modern mac with OSX, or only for antiques?

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