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@voretaq7 Same here... though a few full-time teachers were close to that low-water mark.
I only had one tenured professor who couldn't teach for shit
I've had at least two that I can think of immediately.
I don't think I had any bad tenured professors. Then again, all the tenured professors I had did the degree -> real world -> back to academia path, so that's probably why.
@MDMarra - I think you might have overlooked something here: serverfault.com/questions/475233/…
Ugh, short names and DNS suffixing. And UNC. Troubleshooting that sucks.
16:16
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Q: why the ip in browers takes me to router setting of nearby house

Mark Evansthe case is I have subscribed to a ISP and my neighbor have subscribed to the same. What if i use angry ip scanner and find some open ports at 80. So by pasting that ip, it takes me to router setting page asking for u and p. Now isn't there any website at that IP on the very big "web". While co...

How many times will he come back and ask the same question?
@TheCleaner Moar downvotes to get him Q-banned.
Christ, the fact that he got into college (if we take his word for it) fills me with fear, loathing and the desire to die.
hah...I'm still laughing at his question on SO
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Q: how is it possible for google to return results at lightning speed

Mark EvansI don't know that much about server farming and all that. Basically what i know is goggle crawls the whole web and put it in database and returns result after searching the whole database. Now as we query the Google, there are lot of servers in the middle of our pc and google server in my region ...

I'm waiting for his next question..."How can a computer cable send me information from England so fast? I live in America and it would take me almost a day to drive and then fly there!"
Mornin gents
Dan
Dan
@TheCleaner I started reading the original design document posted on that question and it's making me miss the early days of the web
Can we make a new, elitist, internet for Geeks?
Internet2?
Dan
Dan
16:25
Yep
@Dan I'd settle for just those who aren't drooling retards, frankly.
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Dan
Dan
@HopelessN00b I kind of started out with something like that, but yes, you've put it succinctly
...or co-workers. FFS, why the shit would you keep more than one password spreadsheet? Jackass retards.
@Dan Did someone mention the Eternal September?
@TheCleaner Yep, looks that way
16:28
@HopelessN00b - "We setup a DR document with passwords, etc." ME: "where did you store it?" THEM: "in Sharepoint, that way it gets backed up" <sigh>
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Dan
Dan
@ChrisS See, this is bad. In 1994 I was only 8. But I was already using the Internet (as it was then). Man, my parents were hands off :D The day I figured how to connect to the BBS using my dads modem was a happy one
@TheCleaner Yeah, that's where we keep one of our password spreadsheets. Ugh.
Dan
Dan
(yes, I was a fucked up kid and yes, it's a miracle that I'm near enough well adjusted now. It's even more of a miracle that I ever got a girlfriend)
@ChrisS Ah yes, AOL. The scourge of the internet, and entity responsible for taking a technology with limitless potential for education and communication... and turning into an intelligence-free zone.
AOL is how I first connected to the Internet... I was one of those dolts circa 1995.
16:35
<busy sound when calling local BBS to play Trade Wars> "Dang it! Why won't that man buy another phone line!!
lol; yep... I had the modem volume cranked all the way up so I could hear when it connected. Auto-redial set to 30 or something tries.
Aww, crap. So, our Exchange 2003 server (VM), attached to our SAN is getting high disk queue and pages per second. What's the best practice for running a mail server on a SAN? Disable pagefile?
@HopelessN00b more memory?
Here, we just let applications page to the san all they want. We have 500GB of cache, though.
@ChrisS today is Mon Sep 7097 17:41:25 +01:00 1993
@Basil The server's on 2003 x86, and therefore maxed on memory. Exchange is only using 1.1 GB RAM anyhow. :/
16:43
I dunno, Exchange 2007, 2010, and 2013 are better about paging. =]
@HopelessN00b - how big is the Exchange db?
@ChrisS Yeah, I suspect that the answer is "start moving more of the dumbass mail users to the Exchange 2010 box" ... which is having mail queue problems, heh.
@TheCleaner 75 GB. Exchange 2003 Std, bumped up with that reg hack/edit. (And yeah, the DB's at >95% capacity)
Wow, 40 disk queue, 2378 pages/sec.
Happy Monday.
17:05
@HopelessN00b Yep, that sucks. Buy a bigger SAN, or upgrade them to a less archaic version of exch.
@HopelessN00b What's maxed mean? Do you have PAE and /3GB enabled?
@MDMarra Maxed means 4GB. I'll double check on that /3GB switch, but as store.exe is using just over 1 GB, it doesn't look to me like that would help either. <sigh>
4GB isn't maxed...
Oh wait
it is if you're on standard
@MDMarra For Server 2003 x86? You sure?
Enterprise and Datacenter x86 have higher limits
That's what PAE is for
17:13
Which, of course, we are.
(Not that it matters if the exchange server processes aren't taking up more even 2 GB of memory)
17:25
@WesleyDavid Sheesh, I take a mostly computer-free weekend and get all the pings in the world from you... ;)
@WesleyDavid (1) I'm not a SF mod
Oh good, all that crap I posted this weekend is off the star wall.
@WesleyDavid Twitchy="Responsive Handling". You may find road bikes that are newer than 1988 to be less twitchy. You'll almost certainly find an "endurance" road bike or CX bike less twitchy.
@freiheit twitchy is relative and something you get used to with practice
@WesleyDavid Seriously, BikesDirect.com is a better option than eBay. The shifters on that thing are some crazy one-off from 1990-something. If you want to go fast, you want shifters integrated into the brake levers. (plus that auction is over)
although I've heard that the PlanetX N2A frameset takes a fair bit of concentration
17:32
@Iain Yeah. Also, likely to be less twitchy if you're going faster.
I almost had a stupid clipless moment yesterday, I was trying not to unclip at some lights wobbled the wrong way and almost went down
I don't like people.
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@mossy People.... can't live with them, and yet, they're everywhere.
@mossy Unfortunately, as a sysadmin you will sometimes have to deal with people. I suggest a mixture of blunt objects and alcohol.
Mostly alcohol if you're in the US
If you happen to live in Washington State or Colorado, you have better options available, though.
17:47
@freiheit I find rocking back and forth in a dark room muttering to yourself also helps.
@MDMarra In California, it's pretty easy to get that option prescribed
Is @Cole around?
Yeah, Michigan too. Most of my old-friends have "Back problems" and they can only be comfortable while high.
@freiheit That's such crap anyway, the way we restrict the good drugs to sick people... and require a permission slip from mommy prescription.
@mossy On a related note, I just got the following ticket... I am not receiving all of my e-mails from outside.
Die, bitch. >:/
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Q: Kernel Errors Present: EXT4-fs

audiomasonLogwatch is giving me the following error: WARNING: Kernel Errors Present EXT4-fs (sda1): error count: 4 ...: 1 Time(s) EXT4-fs (sda1): initial error at 1350482172: e ...: 1 Time(s) EXT4-fs (sda1): last error at 1350941030: e ...: 1 Time(s) and /var/log/kern.log gives me this: Feb 3 17:0...

Seems bad.
@HopelessN00b I know that feel.
That reminded me of this video...
Yeah, I'm seriously going to pass that off to someone else, because I'll punch her right in the ovaries for that crap.
18:08
shit i'm going to get banned
Fucking OSX is so janky. How is it possible that this headphone balance thing is STILL a bug after like seven years
@JoelESalas Or connecting to a bluetooth headphones auto-opens iTunes with no fucking way to disable it.
@MichaelHampton that seems more like spam to me (and at least one flagger)
@MichaelHampton Oh, that's rough... but people do it!
One of my clients at the new job is in the business of providing exactly what that poster is looking for.
VPS's for trading.
@JoelESalas what bug?
18:27
@JoelESalas Maybe you're the bug!
@freiheit Fine, fine - you and @ewwhite win. I'll cruise through BD's stuff. I was realling pining for a Specialized though, but really, it's probably too much bike for me right now.
@ewwhite If you mash up/down volume keys too fast, you end up changing the balance of the output to favor the left.
wtf.
By the time you pull the trigger on a single bike, it will already be spring!
@jscott That's because debating bikes is easier than riding them
@jscott I was actually planning that as my timetable - take it slow and probably not get one until April or May.
@WesleyDavid Buy one, ride it. Don't like it? Sell it. Repeat. :)
18:29
@JoelESalas don't mash.
@freiheit And yeah - I considered that it's geometry might have been the best that could be done with the materials in the day. But wow I almost bailed a few times in just ten minutes.
@jscott What do you think bikes are, computers? =)
@Iain I hope so. If I tried to shoulder check, I'd have been eating concrete for sure.
@WesleyDavid Oh, they're far worse. You should hear the bike guys debate the most inane minutia in their forums/chat. :)
@jscott The bike guys in here seem to be telling @WesleyDavid to just freakin' buy a bike already. ;)
@freiheit But I like to window shop. =|
@WesleyDavid Riding a bike is more fun than window shopping
18:32
I could just buy the '86 Fuji frame from my stepdad and build it from the ground up. First thing I'd do is change the shifters.
@ewwhite Roughly equivalent to "Don't hold it that way"
Riding a bike is one way to get to the window shopping.
@WesleyDavid shoulder check ?
Personally, I prefer to shop for a bike by going between the different local bike shops. That way, my window shopping includes bike riding.
@Iain Look behind you, over your shoulder. Take the same hand off the handlebar as the shoulder you're looking over and behind.
18:32
@WesleyDavid Did it have downtube shifters?
@freiheit Head tube shifters, right on the headset area / stem.
@WesleyDavid you would be unlikely to be able to add indexed shifters to it - the rear drop outs will likely not be wide enough
Did you see the pic? Hang a sec.
@WesleyDavid right where if you crash you impale yourself on the shifter levers?
18:33
@WesleyDavid Unless it's way too big for you, ride it!
@Iain I was thinking he could probably at least change it to bar-end friction shifters
@WesleyDavid Is that one free?
Shifting on that Fuji is a pain in the tenderbits.
Literally.
@freiheit It's my stepdad's, so he'd probably not want me to pay for it, but I'd give him some cash. I'd rather overpay family than underpay.
@WesleyDavid you'll get used to it but STI shifters are just plain nice to have
Hey man, it was $350 a quarter century ago. Don't bikes appreciate with age? =P
I wish I could ride a bike to work year around in Michigan
I would be dead in a ditch right now
18:36
Does that head tube look really vertical to you bicyclists?
@mossy There's year-round guys here. The new thing seems to be the moon patrol style 4inch wide wheels.
@WesleyDavid They don't go back up in price until they're over 70 years old...
@jscott That sounds fucking awesome
Seems like my hands and upper body are too directly above the front axle.
@jscott I can hardly brush my car off in the morning
18:37
@jscott Seen the Surly "Big Dummy"?
(I know somebody with quite a collection of pre-WWII bikes. Pretty sure a cruiser from 1930-something has a higher non-inflation-adjusted-price now than it did then)
No, not the big dummy
The pugsly
"Fat Bike" they call that.
18:38
I did a triple take the first time I saw one.
Fat bikes, yep
@WesleyDavid Big dummy is a long-tailed bike. I've ridden one with my Surly Long Haul Trucker on the back
That is me every morning
@jscott mainly for sand/snow ?
If you have a fat bike you can get 4" wide tires with metal studs. Float over the snow and still get grip on the ice...
18:39
@Iain They guys I see are riding in snow. I haven't had a chance to actually talk to an owner yet.
@freiheit Some hardcore mofos right there.
32mm is the widest tyres I have - I mostly use 23mm
Wow that would be fun though.
@freiheit $225 a tire! wow...
18:41
@Iain fat tired (4") bikes are good on sand and snow, but also good for all sorts of mountain biking. Also good for using abandoned railways as a road, since you can just ride right over the railway ties without feeling them
I don't think I've road a bike since the time I shattered my elbow. I fell so hard I shit myself
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I will provide pictures of said elbow later.
I kinda want one of these:
That's more than decent tires for my motorcycle.
(29x3" tires instead of 26x4")
@freiheit It's funny, I'm back on wanting a LHT or Trek 520 after feeling the twitchiness of that road bike.
18:43
@WesleyDavid See if you can get a test ride on a modern road bike, a modern endurance road bike and a cyclocross bike...
(modern meaning something like 2005 or later, not 1986)
@WesleyDavid Also, try another test ride on the Fuji, but go faster
@freiheit How much would that bike you linked cost?
@freiheit Oh yeah, it's in the garage. I plan on taking it out frequently until I buy my own.
i'm kind of interested in this snow riding idea.
@freiheit When they convert abandoned railways to cyclepaths here they usually get a resurface
@mossy Apparently about $2000
@Iain with a fatbike you don't have to wait for them to convert. :)
18:47
@freiheit I wonder what those tyres weigh - probably more n my whole bike
@mossy When you don't have a car, and therefore no car payment, you can buy a new bike every year and still spend way less than car payments (unless you're talking high-end all-carbon dura-ace/red, etc bikes)
@Iain Those 26x4" metal-studded ones are 1375g, so under 3kg for a set.
@freiheit if you didn't have a car why wouldn't you get DA/RED :) ?
@freiheit not as heavy as they look then
@freiheit (I.e. Ed White =P )
@Iain The tires on the bike I posted the picture of are 1640g for the set: surlybikes.com/blog/post/your_rabbit_hole_looks_knardy
@Iain Scotch
^ Purdy.
And he's got egg beaters!
18:52
@WesleyDavid There appears to be more than one gear on that.
@WesleyDavid I saw a Specialized Allez at the weekend - looked nice
@ScottPack I like to complicate things.
@Iain Want.
Oh, I saw a decent deal on a Specialized Crux on ebay... let me check my watch list.
Oh! Oh! The Surly CX bike, the Crosscheck: ebay.com/itm/200889863312?_trksid=p5197.c0.m619
54cm too, my size.
@freiheit Ouch. Little out of my price range.
Do they take peanuts?
I don't know why 54cm is so hard to find since the height range is right in the standard range for men in my generation, 5'10 - 6'
With a 31.5 to 32.5 cycling inseam.
@WesleyDavid That's how tall you are? That seems like a bit small of a frame.
18:54
177.5 to 183 cm for you folks across the pond.
@freiheit 5'10, 31.5 cycling inseam.
I'm 5'10.5" and my bikes are both 56cm
@freiheit He's about 11" tall, but 30" long when he's fully stretched after waking up from his perch
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Counting the tail
@MDMarra You measured me in my sleep?!
Of course
@WesleyDavid "measured"
18:56
@freiheit Both my bikes have compact frames so I don't know their size other than Large
@freiheit The Fuji does seem a tad cramped, but the top tube height is fine. I dunno what it's measurement is, it's in inches not CM
So I've got a buddy who's 6'6 and 230, huge bone structure, massive shoulders with probably 7 foot wingspan - what do you get a guy like that on?
@WesleyDavid He also scratched your belly, so it's cool.
@WesleyDavid styles change - in the past everyone had big frames with the seat low to it, not it's smaller frames and more seat pin exposed
@WesleyDavid an XL frame with a long stem
@ScottPack Wait, you were watching?! D=
@WesleyDavid Como?
19:00
Ohhh nice. Clients error_log just maxed out their allowed storage.
@mossy Reformat. closes ticket
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@Iain Also, in the past they seemed to keep the top tube the same length and just make the bike taller. Now top-tube and seat-tube both change lengths (usually)
[04-Feb-2013 13:50:38 America/New_York] PHP Warning: ini_set() has been disabled for security reasons in /home/clients/public_html/config/config.php on line 4
cPanel
@mossy Watch your language!
lol
What is ini_set()
i dont want to google
ty
a function to override whatever is in php.ini
@freiheit perfect
where's the "install everything that is needed button and nothing more" button
19:05
@freiheit Ohhh, very nice.
(bike's facing the wrong way, but too hard to pose it the other way in my office. That's my LHT commuter, with all the commuterizations all over it)
@mossy ini_set() is the devil.
@mossy So they made that server "secure" by simply not letting users do anything.
I guess.
.
@freiheit Nice Kryptonite lock
19:07
ini_set is pretty harmless anyway. At least for mere mortals. You can't change the interesting stuff anyway.
@WesleyDavid It's mostly coincidence that the right level of security was orange to match the other accessories. :)
@MDMarra sup dude?
Every time they try to change ticket dates it's generating about... 1,000 errors?
Waiting in the airport now, got my drains out today foolios!
@mossy quality code!
19:08
du -sh error_log
3.3M error_log
@mossy Quality web hosting!
I am officially BOOBLESS.
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@Cole Nice, when's your flight?
O_O
19:09
@Cole congratulations
@DennisKaarsemaker ActiveCollab!
@Cole Now it's time to hit the weight and get shredded! =)
@freiheit thanks, feels awesome
@WesleyDavid 5 weeks
shirts look WAY different. Different than I could have ever imagine.
@Cole I was laughing at a bunch of pop punk trout memes earlier. I figured you were the only one in here that could appreciate some of them
@MDMarra haha sweet
19:11
@Cole Holy shit dude, you did it! Congratulations
My service at the airport sucks
@JoelESalas sure did
@Cole I've since closed them all, though
well FUCK
Asks for directions

<trout>

PLEASE HEAD NORTH!
was one of my favorites
LOL
Everyone else is probably like wat the fack is @Cole and @MDMarra laughing at?
19:13
yeah...
@DennisKaarsemaker It's from a song from a band called Transit from Boston, MA
@freiheit Now i really want a bike. :|
@mossy What kind of bike/riding, and what's your budget?
can't wait to get a bike in 5 weeks - just went it'll be around 50-60s to ride
@freiheit We have a lot of trails here. I think I would like to get some sort of mountain bike
The distance between where I am, and where I need to be normally throws riding a bike out of the question.
19:17
@mossy You can get a pretty reasonable hardtail 29er from a local bike shop for $500-$750.
Checked the website to make sure the trails still are still open..
Trails are currently: Open (with caution, hunting is active)
=|
@mossy So you need a bright orange vest?
I need help on Super User. This Question shouldn't have been migrated, and needs to be re-opened:
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Q: Subdomains for server behind NAT

iqtI have server (ip: 192.168.1.2, openSUSE 12.2, Apache 2) behind router (ip: 192.168.1.1, TomatoUSB Toastman Build). I'm using FreeDNS (afraid.org) and I assigned subdomain (say x.afraid.org) to router, which has static external ip. After 443 port forwarding my sites work well, but I want to have ...

19:21
@freiheit Nice. That's about my price range too.
@ChrisS I have no powers on SuperUser. I've been trying to gain rep over there to do things like this, but I lose interest fast.
@WesleyDavid I've only answered a couple Questions there.. Most of my rep is from Answer on SF Questions that got migrated there because there were off-topic here.
Actually I'm 39 rep points away from getting close and re-open privileges on SuperUser, so if people want to gang up and upvote this answer I'd purr:
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A: Permanently delete files from a flash drive

WesleyDavidThe best delete tool that (little) money can buy: EDIT: To counter the detractors No one mentioned the need for government level security, so arguments with that objective are pointless goalpost shifts. This is good enough for anyone who isn't James Bond or Bruce Wayne. P.S. Governments sanc...

alright time to pack up my stuff
I post a picture of a hammer and then incite a riot.
19:23
later!
heh, I have 121 rep on SU. I'm not bored enough to spend time there :)
@Cole TTY tonight!
@ChrisS I just flagged it and explained what happened
@JourneymanGeek We need your POWAH!!
That's no fun. =]
19:25
Wait, isn't @HackToHell a mod there?
@ChrisS Voted to reopen.
@mossy Don't worry about brand. Most bike manufacturers make something similar at a similar price range, and half the bike market is the various smaller brands. Check out at least 2 local bike shops. Test ride. Most should include a free tuneup on a new bike. Get a bottle cage or two, a water bottle or two, a pump (or co2 kit), tire levers, some patches and a spare tube. Then go ride the bike a lot.
Neither Journeyman or H2H are mods. I fail.
@Sathya is around right now.
@freiheit I have been avoiding bike shops because of sales floor piranha.
19:26
So's @OliverSalzburg
@WesleyDavid That why you check out at least 2 bike shops. Some have aggressive salespeople on commission, some don't.
@ChrisS I just realized I think I've bountied about 1000 rep away on SU too.
@freiheit bites leg
@WesleyDavid distracts with kitty treat, puts in kitty cage and drags down to vet for a rabies test
@freiheit Most of us just use the fire hose on him
@voretaq7 He bit me. Gotta get a brain biopsy to be safe
19:30
@freiheit Yeah I figured. I would really like disc breaks, and being able to break down to fit in my car is important.
Other than that I don't think i'd be too picky
and pegs. Must have pegs
@mossy quick release wheels is pretty standard on geared bikes
picky
@mossy So you can have carry your friends more easily/
@mossy Wait... are you a 12 year old boy shopping for a BMX bike?
19:33
@mossy nice flare on those drops
Haha.
Ok I have to go fix this php nonsense before the customer sends me another rage email. I'll be back.
@freiheit Zombie!@WesleyDavid doesn't have a brain. That's why he needs yours.
@mossy And this is why I don't do low-end web hosting.
@freiheit Thanks for the help.
19:36
Just answered a BSD question. Eat your heart out @voretaq7
@mossy I'm on a mission to gets people onto bikes. :)
@freiheit I'm on a mission to know more about bikes than Sheldon Brown before I actually own one.
Not to push people out of comms room, but it seems like there are enough bike people in here to jump start that room
@MDMarra nooooooo!!!
19:38
@WesleyDavid And you figure that your only chance is to take so long to buy one that everything a dead guy once knew is outdated?
And there's a cool little graphic when you're notified in a different room, so you won't miss anything having this as your primary chat window
People go over to The Velodrome. People do not return.
@freiheit ...yes?
What's a velodrome?
Or is that like when my mom asks what an IP is?
19:38
@MDMarra yeah, I bet you got it wrong :-P
@MDMarra Your face.
@WesleyDavid I recommend, instead, riding a bicycle
@voretaq7 It's about su! It shouldn't be wrong unless BSD is fucked
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Q: "su" does not work on FreeBSD

portonBelow I sun "su" command on FreeBSD: FreeBSD rand.vstyle.local 9.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE #0 amd64 This is server RAND :) [svn@rand ~]$ su logostudiotest1 /bin/ls Password: /bin/ls: /bin/ls: cannot execute binary file Why "su" does not work?!

@MDMarra Technically it's a track for bicycle track racing. Usually banked with lots of room for audience. Most cyclists would at least recognize "velo" as meaning bicycle.
@MDMarra everything is wrong, all of the time! :P
19:40
@freiheit Ah, so like how Tetrodome is the term for the playing field in tetris, then.
@MDMarra @freiheit I went to a hippodrome once. No hippos though - it was very disappointing. I wanted to see someone get eaten by a hippo.
^^ velodrome
@voretaq7 There's a club in Springfield, MA called the Hippodrome
It's where 50 Cent got arrested for some gun stuff once
Fun fact, my buddy got arrested for pissing in public while drunk and they tried to get him labeled as a sex offender, because he pissed on the cop that was trying to arrest him. He hired the same lawyer that represented 50 cent in his trial. Both 50 cent and my friend were acquitted of all criminal activity.
@MDMarra why would you arrest currency?
@voretaq7 Beats me
19:42
@voretaq7 This is the US. Currency gets taken to court all the time.
@MDMarra . . . wanna rephrase that last sentence, or should we just assume your friend is some kind of pervert that gets off on lawyers? :-D
no, currency gets taken FROM you BY the court.
We call it a "clerk's fee" here
Better?
@MDMarra not really, I liked it better before when I could monkeys paw it :-(
United States of America v. $124,700 in U.S. Currency, 05-3295 (8th Cir. 2006), was a decision of the United States Court of Appeals for the Eighth Circuit that was handed down on August 18, 2006. The form of the styling of this case — the defendant being an object, rather than a legal person — is because this is a jurisdiction in rem (power over objects) case, rather than the more familiar in personam (over persons) case. In current US legal practice, in rem is most widely used in the area of asset forfeiture, frequently in relation to controlled substances offenses. In rem forfeitur...
@voretaq7 That sounds pervy.
19:53
That awkward moment when coworker sits in chair and it breaks.
s/awkward/hilarious/
s/it breaks/my sabotaging works/
You can't look
but you do anyway
and you can't stop laughing
lol
great news, boobless @cole - glad you're doing ok
My 2 questions for the day
1) Do I want to be a 'technical architect' for a reseller/consultancy when I usually prefer to work on projects long term

2) Should it be legal to execute people who bang on about "6 hats thinking" as anything other than an interesting critical thought exercise as part of a training session (and even that's stretching it).
so far it's looking like "no" and "yes" in that order.
19:59
The 6 coloured hats is a useful training device

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