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00:02
Sounds like him going out is a welcome break then
But I sympathise - having an annoying person can be worse than nobody
Yep pretty much
I can watch TV and nap in peace
@WesleyDavid just pick one up at Costco and go f&^%ing ride it, dude!
@Cole Even though the website's cheezy, ewwwwwhite says they're pretty good. (I think he's the one that said that)
@Ward yeah just curious if that brand is any good. Only $419
COLE SMASH
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Q: Norton/Symantec security product for Windows Server operating systems

Alireza NooriFor home I use Norton Internet Security product and it's excellent. I don't have any issues whatsoever with it. Now, I want to install a product for my server. The operating system is Windows Server 2008 and I'm planning to upgrade to Windows Server 2012 in the near future. I searched around and...

Yeah, he says they're ok for the price:
I have about 5 more weeks till I can use it so
till I'm healed.
00:09
@Cole So, slightly embarrassing question; do they make your nipples more man-like?
@MarkHenderson yep!
They detach them and resize them
That's very cool
So, I was told after surgery until 5-6 weeks from now to not face the shower head when showering since well, I could lose my nipps
00:21
blah gonna lay down, feeling sick. later
Wasn't sure where to post this, put it on meta.SO:
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Q: Are there re-open review tests?

WardServerFault doesn't generate very many re-open reviews, today when I looked it showed there was one question to be reviewed. Even though the counter only showed one, after I dealt with that, I was shown this question: Load avg weirdness on Linux Ubuntu I clicked through to get a better sense o...

00:40
@Cole Yes, it's a very decent entry-level road bike. The cost-cutting is in the gearing and drivetrain.
01:21
@ewwhite probably what I'll end up going with then, thanks
need the XSmall since I'm 5'2 lol
It's only 8 miles to work, so when the weather gets nicer I can bike to work
Someone needs to tell them to not use an aol.com email
Bikesdirect.com
joe m
4/20/12
[email protected]
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@Cole it's decent... but it needs to be assembled. Ideally, have a bike shop do it.
@ewwhite there's a bike shop right in town
@Cole see what that have first...
@ewwhite that's what I'm going to do, they're a small bike shop - a guy I work with said he got a decent deal
01:30
because shops HATE when people buy online and bring the result in.
Yeah I would assume they would
I'll check them out, I guess the owner is a super nice guy
Quick question: Do you pronounce the company Adobe:

1. Like "Abode"
2. Like "A-doh-bee"?
The latter.
the latter as well
I used to do #2 as well, and them my wife told me I'm doing it wrong so I changed to #1, and now it really annoys me when I hear #2
But today I found out that #2 is the official pronuciation
01:36
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Q: What is the incentive to accept answers now? Should we have one?

Nicol BolasIn order to keep down comments about people's accept rates, accept rates are no longer displayed. However, that leads to a question: what is the incentive to accept answers now? Are we in a situation where there is no real incentive to accept answers? Yes, you get +2 uncapped rep. But that's har...

@MichaelHampton Whatever
Pedants complaining about nothing
@MarkHenderson And what did that teach you about taking advice from a woman?
@ScottPack Happy Wife == Happy Life
@MarkHenderson Smart man.
@Cole, Ouch. Still, at least you'll be able to breathe easier now! ... in a bit.
01:40
@Scrivener soon! :)
Congrats. My boyfriend is looking around for someone right now for the same thing.
@Scrivener where are you located?
I went with Dr Garramone, he's awesome
We're up in MA.
@Scrivener hey me too lol
I live in Franklin
Ha! We're in Boston.
01:44
@Scrivener that's funny, is he looking for double incision or keyhole?
Side note: I found it hilarious how prevalant MA is in SO users in the annual report. It's like 3-4% of SO users in the country, and like... 2% of the country.
Keyhole, I think.
@Scrivener look at Dr Bartlett in Brookline
I will! Thanks! :)
my friend had his done by Bartlett - he petitioned his insurance to cover most of it, too. Bartlett will sign all the paperwork
Ended up only paying $3200 out of pocket
Wow.
That's... amazing.
01:46
Yeah I wanted Garramone since he's the best for double incision
welp I'm gonna lay down, starting to get queasy again
time to take some Vicodin
Later!
Feel better - get some rest!
02:12
Oh wow! I actually just researched a little an found out they do not. What do people do without DHCP servers? — user1090389 3 mins ago
@ewwhite And here comes Captain Obvious!
@MichaelHampton I used to run DHCP on my Cisco 4507 switches... for phone systems...
Makes sense to me.
but I just installed an HP Procurve 5406zl ... and realized HP doesn't offer DHCP on its L3 switches.
so it's being handled by a firewall until I can get my servers installed.
(new colo)
@ewwhite curious, I reckon the procurves had it as an option
... or not. Interesting. Some of them supposedly do routing though.
right, this routes...
hmm, we've got mainly 2610s and a few 2510s
then we have DHCP from our file servers and Cisco gear managed by our ISP
Wow... something that begins to resemble security!
@MichaelHampton You've... never seen that screen before?
I see it so often I hate seeing it and consider just upping everyone to local admins
02:33
@MarkHenderson Actually, I see it all the time, but it has never asked me for a password until now.
@MichaelHampton Ah, you're thinking of the UAC screen
Ok yeah I didn't read the heading close enough
I thought that was just the standard "You done fucked up and tried to do something you don't have permission for motherfucker" screen
@MarkHenderson Until recently I've spent very little time working with Windows.
@MichaelHampton UAC should only prompt for credentials if you're currently running as a non-admin
But that behavior can be changed via GPO or local security policy to always challenge
@MDMarra I am running as a non-admin. For the first time since... ever.
Yeah, if you were an admin you'd just be able to click OK
02:37
@MDMarra Yeah, I'm familiar with that process. I intentionally made myself a non-admin account just to see if I could actually work with it.
Yeah, it's not bad on W7/W8
Is anyone watching Baltimore fall apart?
This is great
@MichaelHampton That's why I always set my standard user account to UID 0. Having to type sudo is such an annoyance..
Baltimore what?
@ScottPack Wait until you have to type your password every 30 seconds...
@MichaelHampton Superbowl, man!
@MDMarra Oh, I don't give a flying fuck about the super bowl.
02:44
Fuck you Australia. Electronics breadboard I see everywhere on the internet is about $30 from virtually any US retailer. In Australia it's $100+ from only one retailer
and it's on backorder until March
@MarkHenderson which one, and ebay...
hobbyist electronics pretty much doesn't exist here anymore. Even electronics repair barely exists.
element14 don't have it, or are they the one?
Nothing that nice on eBay
Well, there are some that are suitable but they're from china and have a 3+ week shipping time
I specifically want ones with multiple spacers without headers inbetween
I don't want to have to run jumper leads for 56 IC outputs just to skip over some headers
@MichaelHampton Yeah, see, it's cos that guy from Fog Creek moved there
02:58
Not that I have a twitter account, or even use it, but everything bad has happened since then :p
@Andrew Very close, but where's the price?
Ah there it is, hiding in the corner
I've never heard of that group before. From the UK I see, which means extended shipping times as well :(
Literally I wanted to go and buy it this afternoon lol. I guess I will just have to be more patient
used to be farnell
I presume Jaycar have something crazy expensive?
@Andrew Jaycar have about 4 breadboards, all of them expensive, and all of them are very basic
didn't see that one... still not quite what UI'm after though, it's still got headers in the way
03:42
@MarkHenderson :-*
@WesleyDavid Heh I feel like that too. Just got the bill for my son's new child care
@MarkHenderson Any way to subsidize that or get credits or get your employer to pay for it...
I mean, it's Australia - your government is supposed to do everything for you right?
@WesleyDavid Government provides a pissy subsidy, and there is a means-tested government rebate as well, but apart from that, not really
It's $77/day; thank god he only goes 2 days a week
@MarkHenderson Well boo. Do you pay monthly or quarterly or longer?
Like, pay a year in advance and get a discount?
@WesleyDavid They invoice monthly and you pay however you like, so I pay fortnightly
03:49
$77 a day doesn't seem too bad to me... ?
@WesleyDavid Well, it's a lot when you have a $500,000 mortgage, grocery prices are through the roof, petrol is $1.78/litre, taxes are up, car insurance is up, health insurance is up, council rates are up
And investments are down
@MarkHenderson Effing eff I forget what gas is like in other countries.
We bitch and literally panic when it's $3.50 a gallon or more and very nearly had a country-wide crisis when it hit $4 a gallon a few years back.
By comparison, you're paying $6.73 per gallon right now.
@WesleyDavid Its a fucking joke. About 1/3 or more of that price is government excise tax, and the rest is BP and Mobile just raping your wallet
@MarkHenderson Bite the pillow we're coming in dry!
It's a case of "Tax the poor and give to the rich" in this country a lot of the time
I suspect most western countries are the same though
I'm not poor but i'm certainly not rich
I'm smack in the middle
03:53
@MarkHenderson Yeah, it was kinda cool actually because the solar industry was really getting more and more viable when the prices were that high, and people were seriously moving to mass transit and bikes in a meaningful way.
Then gas prices went down below $4 a gallon and people went back to their hummers.
And the solar industry tanked. And Obama got blamed.
Our solar industry got so popular the government deliberatly tanked it
@MarkHenderson The hell?
The solar feed-in tarrifs were about 26c/kwh, but what happened was so many people took up solar panels that they were payout out billions in feed-in tarrifs that were going to waste
So they dropped everyone to about 10c/kwh and dropped all subsidies for the actual panels and installations
Gotta protect your power industry dontchaknow!
Can't have their profit levels dropping
Same as the auto industry. Ford Australia can't produce a well put together car to save its life (I would know, I've had a few), so people stopped buying them and then.. wait for it.. BAILOUT!
They make good cars, they're just put together badly
Like my boot release doesn't work because the rear spoiler is too heavy
It just pushes the boot closed as soon as it unlatches
@MarkHenderson There are so many slimy deals with energy companies that solar will never take off until it's the 11th hour and too late.
If I ever get Bruce Wayne rich, I'm secretly buying tons of desert in Arizona, close to the California border, and then putting up miles and miles of solar panels.
@WesleyDavid Well, one of our clients has the maintenance contracts for hundreds of generators around the city. His deal is he will maintain them for a pittance, but he gets to turn them on whenever he wants. So he will power on 200 generators around the city for 4-5 hours overnight, when demand is low but the tarrif is high, collect the feed-in credits and then turn them off.
That's his entire business model and he makes a fortune
He makes more than enough money from turning them on to go in and re-fuel them
04:01
@MarkHenderson Wh... wut
@WesleyDavid My thoughts exactly
I gotta find me a honey of a niche like that.
Like even those guys that do stupid sites like kittenwar.com and put some adsense on it. I know of people that have just a small handful of sites like that and make surprising money.
My stepdad works with a guy who made a site years ago that does some kind of fantasy football scoring or statistics calculating. His income from that alone is pretty impressive for just a handful of hours a month.
Yeah, need to get the next big meme
Like ratemypoo.com
(don't bother, already taken)
@MarkHenderson Rate my skeet!
headsethotties expires today
04:04
@MarkHenderson NOWAI!!
Waiting to see if it drops avaliable of it the registrar is just really late on updating the whois
@MarkHenderson It's fun to cruise flippa and see what's up for sale.
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@WesleyDavid never heard of them, might have to check it out
@MarkHenderson Spinoff from the Sitepoint forums.
@MarkHenderson Think of ten good "rate my ___" Let's rock the webs.
rate my rash
rate my roadkill
rate my rancid meat
@WesleyDavid Could work
@WesleyDavid Would mean stopping to photograph it, unlikely to happen
@WesleyDavid who keeps rancid meat?
Maybe rate my cyst
Oh, I know, rate my transgender operation
Before/after photos
And you can link it to your doctor and we can collect referral payments
rate my boobjob.com
04:15
rate my weeping sores
rate my mattress stains
How about a site dedicated to pictures that maintenance staff take of contaminated bathroom stalls!
Rate my norovirus!
I could help with that, we sell work order management software
If I looked there's probably heaps of photos of contaminated bathrooms
Maybe we integrate it, when you upload the photo
"Hey this looks like it's covered in feces! Would you like to upload it to ratemynorovirus.com (fees and charges apply)?"
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Q: How to convert djvu to image stdout in browser?

AleksI try show preview djvu file in browser. I'm using DjVuLibre in this code but the picture doesn't show in browser header('Content-type:image/x-portable-pixmap'); passthru("ddjvu ". "-format=pnm ". "-page={$numPage} ". "-size=100x100 ". "./file.djvu - "); how to show preview djvu file in brows...

Are you lost?
Sadly most of the photos in our system look like this:
@MarkHenderson dooo eeeet!!
No really. Doo it.
DOO. GET IT?! I'm so bored.
in Root Access, Jan 30 at 12:47, by Sathya
What's Super User community's thoughts on getting it out of Stack Overflow's migration list?
Saw that one coming...
04:34
Damnity
I spent 10 mins uploading and didn't work
So I giv eup
@MichaelHampton haha that guy and shitsesays should get together and make babies
@WesleyDavid Skype?
@MichaelHampton my Windows 8 store has never worked
Fresh install, blank PC, can't even install the most basic widget
@MarkHenderson Ah, but I know exactly why it doesn't work for me.
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Q: I have IPv6. Why does my connection to the Windows Store fail?

Michael HamptonI recently installed Windows 8, and I am unable to access the Store. I receive the error: We weren't able to connect to the Store. This might have happened because of a server problem or the network connection timed out. Please wait a few minutes and try again. If I completely disable IP...

The joys of IPv6.
IPv6 at home; that'd be nice
Now all I have to do is get rid of this shitty Tomato router so I can use my entire /48
Tomato's shitty implementation will only advertise a single /64
and doesn't support static IPv6 routes
@MichaelHampton Yeah cos you need a /48, right?
05:05
@MarkHenderson I could get by with a /56, but I got a /48. I'm not complaining.
My home network is a little...complicated.
05:42
We don't know. We're just the sysadmins. Perhaps you meant to visit our sister site Stack Overflow to ask your programming question? — Michael Hampton 22 secs ago
06:29
/dev/zero compresses really well...
15 seconds on Google. 15 rep.
 
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08:36
@Iain I cut my teeth on C. And that code gives me the heebie jeebies.
@MichaelHampton snap
Dorks.
@MichaelHampton I'm just looking at dname_make_from_packet
I still think it's somewhat unwise to go hacking your nameserver.
Sometimes asking why is worse than the original question.
08:38
@Iain Look at where it's called from. The parameter's hardcoded to 1 in the call. You'd think they would put that in a configuration file or something, if they were going to go to all the trouble to make a parameter.
@MichaelHampton so do I
C was the 4th programming language I learnt. That assumes you include mainframe oddities such as JCL, CLIST and REXX as languages. I'm well out of practice at coding in any language, and code like that still worries me.
@MichaelHampton yeah I can see that now - I just went looking for tolower and missed the hard coded stuff
@RobM C was also the fourth language I learned, but unfortunately the first three were BASIC, FORTRAN and Pascal.
ah Basic. Forgot that. C was the 5th language I learnt... unless basic counts less than JCL, etc.
Fortran... shudder
08:42
Yeah, Fortran. Why am I putting all these spaces at the beginning of every line? Oh yeah, because it was designed to be read from punch cards.
basic, z80 assembler, PASCAL, MENTOR, C/x86 assembler
ah yes, now punched cards I remember. Had to boot one of our mainframes from those. Boot sequence was input a boot strap into the machine by hand through a panel on the front, that could read the OS from punched card. What fun.
By the time I got to college they'd gotten rid of most of the punch cards...
It was an old beast of a machine that was "being phased out" on the day of my interview to join up.

On the day I left, after helping shut the data centre down and decommission it, 6 years later, guess what the last machine to be turned off was...
We had ATEs that used PDP8a/PDP8e controllers untill just a few years ago. The 8e had piano keys that you had to key in the boot sequence on, the 8a had a hex keypad
08:48
hex keypad! that's the phrase I was looking for, that's what this thing had for the bootstrap to load the OS.
Anyone who yearns for the good old days when computers were simpler should spend half an hour trying to get one of those to boot. Then come back and tell me again that things are too complex these days.
@iain takes me back
I was working for TI back then so we had an in-house TI system but the old versions had that, the "newer" versions had the keypad and they all wanted punched cards. But they were the only thing in the building that could read some of the tapes we got in from field surveys, and it was cheaper to keep those beasts running than to re-do the surveys with proper gear.
This was an oil exploration subsidiary of TI, so they had lots of field teams doing seismic surveys in unpleasant and expensive places to visit, never mind to operate expensive computer gear in.
09:39
morning all
hmm texas instruments, reminds me of labview back in uni days!
 
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11:14
@ColdT Labview is NI isn't it ?
11:39
yeh its made by NI
@ColdT your background is electronics then ?
 
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12:42
@Iain the degree i did was Computer System Engineering, used Labview for a couple of small projects

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