The Comms Room

Joel

20:09

Hahahaha, I broke my desktop.

WesleyDavid

I wish robocopy could write to tape >_<

voretaq7

@WesleyDavid it cant?

Scott Pack

@Joel Switched to Gnome3? That'll do it.

WesleyDavid

@voretaq7 It can't.

Depending on how the tape is presented to the OS, anyway.

ewwhite

I could use a good iptables tutorial...

I've forgotten everything.

Lucas Kauffman

20:19

@ewwhite ubuntu has a brief tutorial

I liked it

ewwhite

would it work for CentOS?

Lucas Kauffman

@ewwhite iptables syntax should be the same no?

I think

ewwhite

'RH-Firewall-1-INPUT' table.

Jeff Ferland

Alright, this special...

pastebin.com/km8BVv6i

Sanity check before I click "send" anyone? -.-

Scott Pack

Sounds like a pretty easy contracting job.

Jeff Ferland

20:23

@ScottPack Yeah, if I can get into a !#$%^ machine.

Lucas Kauffman

god I forgot the turks banned pastebin here since someone posted some government owned telco's client's email addresses

Scott Pack

@JeffFerland What are you talking about? Sounds like you have weeks of billable hours where you haven't had to do any work!

Jeff Ferland

@ScottPack Flat-rate, payment on completion. I'm about to just abandon it.

Scott Pack

@JeffFerland Sounds like you should pull in Bill Shatner to work with you.

ewwhite

how much?

Lucas Kauffman

20:25

over 9000?

Jeff Ferland

@ewwhite Not enough.

Lucas Kauffman

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Q: How do I close Port 135/TCP on Win 2K8 R2

I would like to stop listening on port 135. Please note that I am not asking to block it (ie with firewall), I would like to disable it completely. Thanks!

WesleyDavid

Tapes. HOW DO THEY EVEN WORK?!

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Q: How do tape backups work?

We are backing up to tapes but more often then not the tape will be spat out and we will have an error like The requested media failed to mount. The operation was aborted. which from what I can tell could mean the drive is full (doesn't looks like it as the drives ate ~700GB big). We sometimes g...

tape

Joel

@LucasKauffman Blood pressure rising

Adrian

@WesleyDavid I love that comment suggesting that the OP read the manual. =)

WesleyDavid

20:38

@Adrian The question mark clenched it. I smirked. Then again, I am a jackass so there's that.

Adrian

Questions like those are why I don't really fear for the whole DevOps movement making sysadmin as obsolete as buggy-whip makers.

Joel

@Adrian My company practiced DevOps before it was cool

then they hired me to fix it

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Adrian

There's a lot of barely-competent Devs out there who can't troubleshoot or plan their way out of a wet paper bag.

WesleyDavid

@Adrian Why I don't fear the devops movement is because it only fits for a small subset of IT engineering feats.

When it fits, it fits well. The other 90% of the time it's science fiction. And not even good science fiction.

MikeyB

@WesleyDavid How do they work? You put the fucking tape in the fucking drive and the fucking backup program fucking writes the fucking data to the fucking media.

Joel

20:41

@MikeyB Miracles man. Them magnets.

WesleyDavid

@MikeyB fucking-tapes

Adrian

And I can just imagine a T-shirt with backup tapes in various coital positions.

Aaron

dang

WesleyDavid

@Joel Can I steal that?

Aaron

@WesleyDavid beat me to it

WesleyDavid

20:44

vowels-how-do-they-even-work

@Aaron Only seven minutes late! =P

Joel

@WesleyDavid The world needs to know

I found an interesting "behavior" in the fedora livecd

if I ctrl-backspace to clear the suggested hostname, it makes the livecd instantly reboot

WesleyDavid

@Joel Because I'll totally blog this on Friday:

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@Joel Unless you want to. =)

MikeyB

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A: How do tape backups work?

Tapes are a serial access (as opposed to random access) medium. Miniature pixies engrave each bit onto a tiny section of the physical media. The Wikipedia article is an good resource for general questions. Your question needs far more detail (the specific error you're receiving, what backup so...

See? I was nice.

WesleyDavid

@MikeyB Yes, you spelled everything correctly. No TomTom points for you!

MikeyB

@JeffFerland Looks good to me.

Adrian

20:50

@WesleyDavid OH no. You had to invoke Flip Bit.

Joel

@WesleyDavid You have my blessing

Adrian

That's the name of the "encryption" we use on our passwords in our web-app here. It flips all the bits in each character.

Scott Pack

@Adrian I've always preferred ROT13.

Adrian

@ScottPack Honestly, that would probably work better than our bitwise ROT1. =D

Mark Henderson

@Adrian Pft who needs SHA1 hashes or RSA encryption

Flip ALL the bits!

Encrypt EVERYTHING

Scott Pack

20:54

@Adrian For sufficiently pessimistic definitions of better.

Adrian

@ScottPack Ya know, there's like FIVE taverns between my office bus-stop and my apartment's local bus-stop. =)

Joel

@Adrian That's dangerous

WesleyDavid

@Joel It's been scheduled for Friday the 23rd. I have your blog a link.

Adrian

@Joel Not if I drink crappy American beer though. Only the 5th one has good beer.

Scott Pack

@Adrian Big deal. I pass by the front doors of something like 10 or 15 bars on my 1.3 mile commute home.

Adrian

20:56

@ScottPack That would be coffee shops here. There's 23 coffee shops between my office and my apartment.

WesleyDavid

@Adrian "Coffee Shops"

Joel

Is anyone interested in reading about the "Cowboy Hat Contingency?"

It's a blog post I'm preparing

Adrian

@WesleyDavid Doesn't count 7-11s or fast food places with espresso machines, either

WesleyDavid

It's Washington. You know what else is bagged up and ready to be purchased in the back room, right?

84104

@WesleyDavid Hookers?

WesleyDavid

20:57

@84104 Only if you're close to I-5.

Adrian

@84104 Exactly.

Gary Ridgway

Gary Leon Ridgway (born February 18, 1949) is an American serial killer known as the Green River Killer, convicted of 49 separate murders and confessing to nearly double that number. He murdered numerous women and girls, most of whom were alleged prostitutes, in Washington during the 1980s and 1990s, earning his nickname when the first five victims were found in the Green River. He strangled them, usually with his arm but sometimes using ligatures. After strangling the women, he would dump their bodies throughout forested and overgrown areas in King County, often returning to the dead bodi...

WesleyDavid

Fishing in the Cascades and coastal ranges, it was always on your mind what you might find down a logging road. Any cars you saw were either hunters that had gone off into the woods or a burial ground for hookers.

It's advised to always fish while armed. Plus, if you get board, you can shoot at the ones that aren't taking your bait.

Lucas Kauffman

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voretaq7

@WesleyDavid Gilgo. Beach.

Joel

@LucasKauffman Is there any sort of regulation to keep a news program honest?

Or is lying out of your ass protected by the first amendment?

serious question

Lucas Kauffman

21:02

Im not american idk :p

TylerShads

@LucasKauffman It's FOX. Family Guy is the closest thing they have to real.

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Joel

@LucasKauffman Then I'm amazed that Fox News is known world-wide for its shenanigans

voretaq7

Presenting something as fact when you know it to be false can get you sued.
Other than that, yeah, just kinda make shit up.

TylerShads

Says the guy who's grandfather is a huge fan of Fox News -.-

voretaq7

@Joel I'm not. there's a reason we call it Faux News.

TylerShads

21:03

@voretaq7 And since they're idiots, they can get away with saying that they didn't know.

Lucas Kauffman

@Joel well when you send this out on national television... Sometimes I feel some Americans are ignorant and undereducated and very associal towards other cultures. But then I see they get their facts from this crap, I really pitty them xD

Mark Henderson

@voretaq7 You realise that joke only works in writing, when you say it out loud even though they're spelled the same they're not similar sounding?

Joel

@TylerShads I would suspect nothing less than a highly-engineered news program that is designed at its core to drive the bar lower with every airing

even reruns.

TylerShads

@Joel And the fact that it's owned by News Corp. Is it not?

brb

Mark Henderson

In Australia Murdoch owns a whole bunch of newspapers, and it's alleged that their stories are written with the demographic of someone with the intelligence of a 10 year old

TylerShads

21:06

Yup

That explains everything

Mark Henderson

I get so frustrated reading them because each sentence is its own paragraph.

Like this.

There is no reason to format your stories like this.

It's really annoying.

Joel

@MarkHenderson Using flesch-kinkaid reading level or something?

Lucas Kauffman

@MarkHenderson well it's easier to fill up the paper

Mark Henderson

@Joel I don't know what that is but I'm going to say yes

TylerShads

Fox News Channel is the second-most trusted television news network in the country, with 42% of respondents reporting they trust the network ....Can I come live with you UK guys?

Mark Henderson

21:07

@TylerShads They have News of the World

Well, they had

TylerShads

And the Sun....good point

Mark Henderson

Murdoch has just as much influence in the UK as he does in the US

Iain

the BBC is generally OK

@MarkHenderson there is less fear of Murdoch how

Joel

This American Life got hoodwinked by Mike Daisey ;_;

TylerShads

Front page of the Sun yesterday , from what I heard

Mark Henderson

21:09

So, VoIP chat lobbies are enemies of the state now

Oh wait no, it's Call of Duty lobbies

Lucas Kauffman

In Belgium there was a tv show that poisoned the news feed spreading fake stories, all but 1 news paper bought it. All they did was call the newspaper that they had a story

and pretended to be a proffessor of some university

@MarkHenderson because they are encrypted :p

84104

@LucasKauffman Fact checking is hard.

Iain

@TylerShads The SUN doesn't sell well in this area due to it badly reporting th Hillsborough disaster in 1989

Mark Henderson

I remember a few years ago a journalist posted some legit-sounding info on Wikipedia afters someone famous died, to see how many newspapers picked up on it

His little lie was syndicated to hundreds of worldwide newspapers

TylerShads

@Iain It sells well here, and it scares me how dumb people can be...

voretaq7

21:11

I'm quite aware of that.
Most of the people who watch Fox, in my experience, are not.

Lucas Kauffman

@84104 Yea, they would AT LEAST need to call that university to see if the guy actually existed

voretaq7

(and truth in advertising - pronounce it correctly and it's still applicable)

Mark Henderson

Its scary that I find Jon Stewarts take on the news more accurate and reliable than Fox

And I dont even live in America, I just watch it delayed on the TV :P

voretaq7

@MarkHenderson oh you poor foreigner - we've been relying on comedians for news in this country for years!

TylerShads

ah here's the story ...so everyone that has a Gaming.SE account is a terrorist!

Mark Henderson

21:13

I remember the line in Goldeneye:

"Are these pictures live?"
"Unlike the Americans, we prefer not to get our bad news from CNN"

84104

@voretaq7 Well it only makes sense with the clowns we've got running it?

Lucas Kauffman

I really love Jon Stewart

TylerShads

@MarkHenderson What @voretaq7 is true, very sadly.

voretaq7

HEY!
Don't insult clowns.

@MarkHenderson The Crappy News Network?

TylerShads

@voretaq7 They're owned by News Corp too, right?

No Turner...almost as bad

voretaq7

21:16

@TylerShads meh, they all SUCK.

TylerShads

@voretaq7 My point.

Lucas Kauffman

who were the ones that put obama between the republicans again?

voretaq7

@LucasKauffman ... he's not a republican?

::baffled::

Adrian

@LucasKauffman You people have this weird idea that there's any real difference at all between our political parties here in the US.

Iain

@Adrian the spelling

voretaq7

21:20

@Iain and the logos!

Adrian

@Iain Bah. Americans can't spell worth crap. Y'all should run a query on how many of my posts I have to edit for my own mis-spellings.

Iain

@Adrian I can't throw stones

TylerShads

@Adrian Or we can just run SELECT * FROM posts WHERE user='Adrian'

voretaq7

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Adrian

@Iain You pick one up, hold it in your hand, wind up, and release at the top of the arc.

voretaq7

21:22

i want this animal. Buy me one!

84104

@voretaq7 You can your crazy Mexican punctuation.

I have not idea what I just said!

voretaq7

@84104 ay dios mio, I must be a terrorist!

84104

@voretaq7 No entiendo nada a todo.

Iain

@MarkHenderson how's the FC thing going ?

voretaq7

@84104 When you start understanding, WORRY.

Iain

21:25

@Adrian I learned to read using ITA and can't spell because of it

WesleyDavid

@voretaq7 Viva La Revolución!

voretaq7

@WesleyDavid Viva Chalupas?

Mark Henderson

@Iain I've got my 5th and 6th skype interview this saturday morning (5am my time). With the Managing Director and Co-Founder

I'm not sure if so many skype interviews is a good thing or a bad thing

84104

@voretaq7 So-Krates was a wise dude.

Iain

@MarkHenderson woo hoo - well good luck with that then

Mark Henderson

21:28

@Iain Thanks. The've promised that these two will be the last skype interviews

(I'm guessing that if the MD or Co-Founder says no, that'll be the end of that lol)

Iain

it must be difficult with such a wide time difference

Mark Henderson

Well, its only short-term. I get up at 4.30am on those days to do the interviews. I normally get up at 6.30am so its not a huge stretch

It usually means that for the first 15 mins of the first interview Im still a bit groggy :p

And thank God they're not video calls

Iain

indeed

WesleyDavid

@Iain Forsooth.

Iain

@WesleyDavid indeed ;)

WesleyDavid

21:32

So the Kindle Fire isn't available in the UK. What kind of nonsense is that. =(

voretaq7

@MarkHenderson this is the sleep depravation test

Mark Henderson

@WesleyDavid Try living here, nothing is available

@voretaq7 I have a child. I dont need to be tested on sleep depravation

Lucas Kauffman

@WesleyDavid it's cause it's too hot for you, more fire and the earth would melt under your feet

Mark Henderson

This comic applies equally in Australia

WesleyDavid

I'm just surprised at how America-centric the Amazon Kindle appears to be. I thought it was more of a national company. Also, still surprised there's no Amazon.au

Fascists.

Iain

21:34

@MarkHenderson I may be in NZ later this year/early next year - that's not a set of flights I'll be looking forward to

Mark Henderson

@WesleyDavid They sell it here. Even the 3G model.

@Iain It'll be worth it, its a beautiful place

But they talk funny

WesleyDavid

@MarkHenderson In what stores? And what about the Kindle Fire? I can't find signs of it online.

Iain

@MarkHenderson I believe getting them to say 6 is a good game

WesleyDavid

As of Feb 2012, it hasn't come to the UK apparently: telegraph.co.uk/technology/amazon/9060101/…

voretaq7

@MarkHenderson nonsense, that's just rehersal.

Teach your children to scream "THE WEBSITE IS DOWNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN"

WesleyDavid

21:39

@voretaq7 How many times did you reboot?

voretaq7

@WesleyDavid 666

Lucas Kauffman

@voretaq7 not even close to over 9000

Iain

@WesleyDavid it's still not here

Mark Henderson

@WesleyDavid You can order the kindle from Amazon online, or you can get buy it from the Woolworths grocery stores. But it's just the normal reader, not the fire

@Iain And "fish and chips"

WesleyDavid

@voretaq7 Well there's you problem. You need chmod -R 777 /*

Iain

21:42

@MarkHenderson I'll listen out for that

Mark Henderson

@WesleyDavid I find rm -rf / works well to fix those problems

Oh bullshit now it just did that easter-egg thing

And I can't see jack shit

Ok its faded, phew

84104

@MarkHenderson chmod -r 777 /

TylerShads

@84104 del C:

wait, i did that wrong

84104

@TylerShads format c:

voretaq7

@WesleyDavid i have a few of those :)

TylerShads

21:43

FML today

voretaq7

@84104 fdisk! fdisk! fdisk!

Iain

del /s/x

Joel

Does SELinux prevent any of that

Iain

del /s /q .

SpacemanSpiff

Excellent, my new bacon cooking apparatus is superior to the former

84104

21:45

I have one user who when they can't connect to wireless says "The server is down."

Oh boy to I English good today.

TylerShads

@84104 tell them its maintenance and they should just go home. They'll be fired soon enough

Don't worry, i Enter well today.

FUUUU MARKDOWN

84104

@TylerShads It's hard to get the slave labor fired.

TylerShads

@84104 So if they don't show up, they keep their job? Why even have them in the first place?

Mark Henderson

Woooo re-claimed almost a tb of space by deleting LUNs that had been provisioned but never allocated

84104

@TylerShads The price is right!

TylerShads

21:48

@84104 clearly

84104

@TylerShads I suppose I should clarify for posterity that we don't have actual slave labor. We have graduate students.

TylerShads

@84104 ...I fail to see the difference...

84104

@TylerShads It's a distinction. Never said anything about it being a difference.

TylerShads

@84104 Ah, like Executive Assistant is just a Secretary

84104

@TylerShads Now you're catching on. Though I'm always amused by "sanitation engineer".

voretaq7

21:52

@84104 Graduate Slaves.

TylerShads

@84104 ....CLEAN MY POO

84104

Co-worker didn't know how to run a .bat file. -_-

Mark Henderson

@84104 Are they a janitor?

voretaq7

@84104 <emo-tear>

Lucas Kauffman

@84104 don't know google either :p?

TylerShads

21:55

@84104 They clearly need a clue.bat then

84104

I need to be paid more.

I think that's the take away message.

Joel

Don't we all

Mark Henderson

@84104 It won't help. The more money you have the more you will spend, and then you'll just get depressed thinking "HEy, I'm earning $100k instead of $60k but I don't have anything better now than I did back then"

WesleyDavid

@TylerShads Talk to @Joel. He gets paid to poop. If you can get paid to clean it, it'll be the weirdest, most lucrative excretory feedback loop in the world.

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Joel

@MarkHenderson I'd spend my money on finally opening a coffee shop :3

@WesleyDavid THE SYSTEMS CENTIPEDE??

TylerShads

21:59

@WesleyDavid dafuq did I just read...

84104

@MarkHenderson Right, but I only make $30k there are some thresholds I'd like to hit.

TylerShads

Mark Henderson

@Joel Do you know how many coffees you have to sell just to pay the rent? Let alone insurance, wages, advertising, etc

@84104 yeah OK you do need to be paid more.

30k would barely pay your rent for a year where I live :(

84104

@MarkHenderson Much the same here.

If I seem angry, it's because I'm poor.

Joel

@MarkHenderson It would partially be a labor of love. I'd only really want it to break even and be a cool spot.

Mark Henderson

22:02

Well I dont know how my sister does it. She and her husband are probably on $40k between them, and they have four kids and somehow manage to keep their heads above water

@Joel Well to be fair, there is a serious lack of decent independant coffee stores

Joel

@MarkHenderson There may be a very good reason for that ;_;

Fuck this I'm getting fish tacos PEACE

TylerShads

@Joel I read that as Fish Tattoos ....

Mark Henderson

@Joel EWw. Way to ruin a good taco

If I want fish taco I'll go buy a cheap whore

voretaq7

@TylerShads Ah, a nice wholesome family movie!

Lucas Kauffman

Tom O'Connor

22:07

I hate people.

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licks @WesleyDavid

5

84104

@TomOConnor There is no redeeming context!

voretaq7

@LucasKauffman Are belgian unions really that bad? 'cuz our unions here aren't but they get blamed for everything so they SEEM that bad.

WesleyDavid

@TomOConnor Is this in your capacity as a Cheetah, as a SysAdmin or as an Englishman?

Lucas Kauffman

@voretaq7 they are worse

union's shut down the train traffic here once for 3 weeks

ewwhite

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Q: Is turning on a Centos system pretty easy?

Yes, the question I'm asking is simplistic to the extreme. I'm sorry about that. I'm not a Linux expert, certainly not from a system admin point of view, so I've got to ask a very simple question. We have a Centos system here, which we're not really responsible for. At the moment I've got 5 o...

centos

Mark Henderson

22:10

@ewwhite Sure press the power button

WesleyDavid

licks @MarkHenderson

Might as well spread the saliva.

Adrian

@WesleyDavid Not surprised. Seattle can be surprisingly provincial about anything outside what the local city culture values.

Mark Henderson

(I have a habit of answering questions based soley on the title without reading the question)

ewwhite

Today's questions...

Mark Henderson

This guy is starting to annoy me:

user113784

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exchange-2007 exchange-2010 office-communicator2007 windows-server-2008-r2 active-directory

I hate leeches

Three good answers to pathetic questions and not a single upvote issued

Tom O'Connor

22:12

@WesleyDavid Cat!

Iain

@MarkHenderson can 1 rep users upvote anything ?

WesleyDavid

@TomOConnor Cheetah!

Tom O'Connor

:D

voretaq7

@ewwhite . . . ok I'm obviously too sleep-and-coffee-deprived to keep looking at questions. My comments are getting out of hand now.

WesleyDavid

@MarkHenderson DigiCat!

Lucas Kauffman

22:14

@voretaq7 linkie?

Jeff Ferland

@MarkHenderson Same. It's a problem when the important details are at the end of the paragraph and not right up front.

Mark Henderson

On their own questions, I think so

voretaq7

-1

Q: Is turning on a Centos system pretty easy?

Yes, the question I'm asking is simplistic to the extreme. I'm sorry about that. I'm not a Linux expert, certainly not from a system admin point of view, so I've got to ask a very simple question. We have a Centos system here, which we're not really responsible for. At the moment I've got 5 o...

centos

that one

Lucas Kauffman

@voretaq7 you just made me laugh out loud

I'm getting weird looks

TylerShads

@voretaq7 I love you

@LucasKauffman Happens to me everyday I hang out here...

voretaq7

22:24

I'm a bad, bad man.

84104

The Comms Room - "Making you look like a giggling psychopath to those around you."

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voretaq7

@WesleyDavid, @TomOConnor @MarkHenderson - CATS! Now off-Broadway!

Lucas Kauffman

@84104 I'd love that as a description

voretaq7

room topic changed to The Comms Room: This is *NOT a place for 'Live Support', ask on the main site. Giggling psychopaths make wonderful helpdesk technicians! [effing-markdown]*

@LucasKauffman way ahead of you.

I've noticed every time we change the room topic we leave "This is NOT a place for 'Live Support'", yet people still come in here expecting it

TylerShads

voretaq7

22:27

perhaps we should change the topic to "Helpdesk and Support to the universe!" so we can have some peace?

TylerShads

@LucasKauffman WAT

Lucas Kauffman

►

Adrian

@voretaq7 If they're coming in here looking for help, I'm not certain that they're actually literate.

voretaq7

@TylerShads oh we are SO taking away your Photoshop...

right after I star that.

Lucas Kauffman

:'(

XD

TylerShads

22:28

@voretaq7 No photoshop...just dev console xD

What's funny is, it stays that way after closing it and I love it

Joel

So what ETA do you guys give on a bunch of noobs coming in and ruining the comms room

I give it about 18 months

TylerShads

Just like I love how my rep breaks the user page

voretaq7

@Joel because of what?

Lucas Kauffman

@TylerShads l33t haxor

TylerShads

@Joel Considering I've been trying since July...never

voretaq7

22:31

@TylerShads your reputation is over 9000!

Joel

@voretaq7 just due to the visibility on google, the awful questions we've been getting lately, etc

@voretaq7 It's over 9000 thousands

voretaq7

@Joel meh, shit questions come in waves

TylerShads

@Joel The awful questions have been here since 2009, by the looks of it.

voretaq7

E_E_E_E_E // Monkey Error. Fling poo at console to continue.

Joel

@voretaq7 I haven't been around long enough, I guess

Lucas Kauffman

22:34

0

Q: Clone a Xen instance but add memory to it

I have a machine that has a few Xen instances running on it. I'd like to clone one of them but allocate more RAM to the new clone. How can I do this?

virtualization xen

is there something special I about xen clones I failed to notice?

TylerShads

@LucasKauffman How much it confuses people?

voretaq7

usually the way it works is so many bad questions get asked that we lose our thin veneer of civility and tell people to go fornicate themselves with that magical power strip of free energy.
Then someone somewhere says we're "worse than usenet" because we're zomg so mean to the newbies (who really have no business being within 50 furlongs of a computer!), so we stop the random executions and pushing of the virgins into volcanos for a while - at which point peace and nice questions reign for about 2 months.

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Lucas Kauffman

@TylerShads apparently

voretaq7

@LucasKauffman must. downvote. things. that. are. in. the. documentation.

(also, give him a link to the documentation)

TylerShads

@voretaq7 nah, it should just all be redirects to a Rick Astley vid

Joel

22:36

@voretaq7 I saw the discussion with Peter Grace a few days ago about churlishness in general on SF. Not sure where I stand on it

voretaq7

Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day.
Teach a man to fish and he will eat for a lifetime.
Realize a man is too stupid to learn to fish and bludgeon him to death with a copy of Fisherman magazine, and he won't ever need to eat again!

TylerShads

@Joel Probably about TomTom

Joel

@TylerShads Yep

TylerShads

@Joel Yeah....who wants to explain that one that knows better

Lucas Kauffman

1. Of, like, or befitting a churl; boorish or vulgar.
2. Having a bad disposition; surly: "as valiant as the lion, churlish as the bear" (Shakespeare).
3. Difficult to work with, such as soil; intractable.

voretaq7

22:38

there was a TomTom specific discussion?

IDK, I really dislike the idea of ServerFault becoming the DaniWeb of the sysadmin community. I actively dislike and discourage people who post questions that can be answered by simply OPENING the manual

WesleyDavid

@voretaq7 Sooo, are we in a downturn of virgin-tossed-in-the-volcano activities right now? Because I totally didn't get that memo.

voretaq7

@WesleyDavid no I think we're at the part where we round them all up and start hiking up the slope

today's questions have been... quality.
Not *GOOD* quality, but certainly *A* quality.

Like markdown!

WesleyDavid

@voretaq7 If you see paw prints in the path... those sooo aren't mine.

Joel

@voretaq7 I have to agree. If you're asking a question that an "actual" sysadmin can answer while drunk out of their mind and bleeding from four bullet wounds, it Does Not Belong here

TylerShads

@voretaq7 I just mean TomTom in general, but the other day @petergrace was discussing his dislike for people that present themselves BOFH-like the way TomTom is all the time

WesleyDavid

22:42

@Joel Spoken like a true East LA SysAdmin.

Lucas Kauffman

@voretaq7 yea I actually solve the questions I don't know the answer for immediately by pasting it into google

you could add that the faq, if google suggestions 1-5 solve your problem, then question is invalid

TylerShads

@LucasKauffman It gets really bad that when that happens, its actually a link to a different question on SF

voretaq7

Well I hold up that xen one as a shining example of BAD.

Lucas Kauffman

@voretaq7 the guy commented on his question, he thinks your rough rawr!

Joel

@WesleyDavid I lived in Pomona for 5 years. It's quite a sight to see the police department raid an apartment building with full-on body armor and assault rifles

Lucas Kauffman

22:47

what is pomona?

Joel

@LucasKauffman Mordor. It's far in the east, across a mountain range. The air is a toxic fume

voretaq7

@LucasKauffman and I gave him the nicest reply comment I could.

@Joel Pomona is not that bad.... or so the real estate agents tell me.

Joel

@voretaq7 Note that they're not pushing Mid-City West or Santa Monica. Hahaha

Lucas Kauffman

@voretaq7 second time people gave me weird looks :p

voretaq7

@LucasKauffman that was a funny comment?

Lucas Kauffman

22:51

@voretaq7 They would tell you the shadiest neighbourhoud of harlem is a "multicultural exciting place" if they could sell you a carton box over there: p

voretaq7

ok, I'm going home before my snark causes me to do something that would force me to have to suspend my own account for a day.

Lucas Kauffman

@voretaq7 I found it quite amuzing

voretaq7

@LucasKauffman and don't dis harlem! It's a nice area with a shitty reputation.

::flees::

Lucas Kauffman

@voretaq7 I was being stereotype!

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